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Fighting for Girls' Rights With God's Help: A Conversation with Aicha Ech-Channa

Posted: 12/18/10 06:50 PM ET

This interview is part of a series of conversations with activists working for development and peace and drawing their inspiration from their faith, based on interviews led by Katherine Marshall for the Berkley Center for Religion, Peace, and World Affairs at Georgetown University and the World Faiths Development Dialogue. The full interview can be found here.

Winner of the $1 million Opus Prize in 2009, Aicha Ech-Channa has worked for five decades to help unmarried women with children in Casablanca, Morocco. Katherine Marshall sat down with Aicha last year to discuss the stigma unmarried girls in Morocco face and what she does to change the situation.

Your life story is a remarkable journey, illustrating vividly what civil society leaders are achieving in Morocco. What are some of the highlights?

One image, a turning point for me, comes to me when I cannot sleep, which is often. I was working as a social worker and had just had a baby. A young girl came to the office beside mine. She had the rounded, stooped shoulders that I have come to recognize as the sign of the shame she carried. She was breastfeeding the baby she carried in her arms. My colleague, the social worker, gave her a paper to sign with her thumbprint (she was illiterate), then reached out to take the baby. The girl was giving up her baby, as was the expectation, even requirement, at the time. As the social worker pulled the baby away, a jet of milk squirted from the mother's breast onto its face. The baby cried. The mother had a desperate look and I could feel the pain she would feel in her breasts, as I was breastfeeding myself. I was determined to do something, though at the time I had no idea what I could or would do.

Many other events, and many women and babies made me more and more determined to act.

What inspired you to take the next step, to found your own organization, Association Solidarité Féminine?

The fate of an abandoned baby then was so terrible. A baby born to an unmarried mother would have on their birth certificate simply "father 'X', mother 'X'," and would be sent to the orphanage. There, most of them died because the conditions were terrible.

Once, in the 1970s, during a very cold winter, I passed by a hospital, where there was a nursery full of abandoned babies. These babies were being transferred to an orphanage in Casablanca. They were blue. They were cold. When I asked why, I learned that they were just dropped off and the mothers had nothing to leave with them. The hospital did not have the resources to fill the gap. Another time, I visited the orphanage and saw babies whose skin tore away when I changed a diaper because they were neglected.

What is the philosophy of the organization you founded?

At first, I worked case by case as a social worker, following each case. Sometimes we achieved remarkable results, persuading families to accept their daughters, fathers of babies to marry the young woman, or getting the vital papers that mothers and children need to have some status. But the solutions were far too few, and too fragile. There were so many cases and they were so heartbreaking -- the nine-year-old raped by a relative and covered by burn marks, or the so many little girls sent as maids to the city and abused in the households that were supposed to protect them.

So, in 1985, we decided to start a program. We began in a basement. We conducted no studies and we had no resources. Everyone was a volunteer, including me. If we had submitted a project proposal, it would have been rejected by everyone. Indeed, had we any notion of the obstacles we would face, we would never have had the courage to begin. We began with a day care center, so that babies would be cared for during the day while their mothers had a chance to recover their self esteem and learn some skills that would allow them to work.

What were some of the lessons along the way?

Working in orphanages, I realized that every child has the right to a mother and the love that a mother can give. No matter how difficult, keeping the child with the mother was the best solution. No orphanage can care for a child like a mother can.

And I realized that the double standards in society have to be addressed. Still today, all sex outside marriage is officially illegal in Morocco, and an unmarried mother can go to prison. She is shunned and faces a host of barriers. There is nothing comparable for men, and yet it takes two to make a baby.

What is your own faith background and experience?

I am a Muslim and a believer. I pray to God and believe that God helps me. I do not believe in an exclusive God -- a God for Moroccans, or for Muslims. I leave judgment to God. And I have had heartwarming experiences working with Christians and Jews. Solidarité Féminine was founded by a trio of three people: a Catholic nun, a man who was Jewish, and me, a Muslim. We believed that God is for all, that God will take care of himself.

Recently while I was at a large conference for nurses in Marrakech, I had a dream. In my dream, I saw the Virgin Mary (though I did not see her face), surrounded by nuns wearing their traditional habits. People were pushing to reach her. I placed myself between her and the crowd to protect her, without touching her. One of the sisters said, "With your body, you protected Virgin Mary, without touching her, which we cannot because she is sacred." Then she bent down, picked up some dirt, and put it on my chin, saying, "From now on, you are one of us." I asked some Christian and Muslim leaders what my dream meant. To them it was very clear: Our work is to protect girls like Mary, but we need to find our strength in both our gifts and our weakness. The dream spoke to the sacredness of the mother and the humility associated with the earth. We come from the earth, and to the earth we shall return.

Your book Miseria, published in 1996 in French, is a poignant testimony to the suffering and lives of young girls. If you were writing today, would the outcomes be as heartrending?

I wrote the book as a way to bring to life the experiences of the young women I was working with. If I were writing today, the stories would have more hope, though there are not many real "happy endings." Things have indeed changed for the better. Attitudes are more open and there are more opportunities. But the situation is still tough and there is far to go.

The real solution is for the society to change so that families do not throw their daughters out when they most need their families and so unmarried mothers have respect and support as they raise their children. Children are an investment. The care that a child receives in its first years makes all the difference.

You sometimes say that you sit on a knife edge, with the needs and interests of young women with children born outside marriage on one side, and the dangers of provoking social backlash against all change on the other. What are your hopes and the dangers you see?

Through my social work, I saw the extraordinary suffering of young girls who become pregnant. They are often thrown out by their families, left on the street with no resources. They suffer from deep, ancient taboos that treat unmarried mothers as prostitutes, even if their pregnancy is the result (as quite often it is) of abuse or rape. Religion plays its role. Many link their condemnation to their Muslim faith, but only the woman, the mother, is treated so harshly. And the children born to unmarried mothers suffer terribly -- without a name, without papers, they are condemned for life as bastards. Many abandoned babies died in orphanages or grew up scarred by their status.

Morocco passed a Family Law reform in 2004 that has helped to change laws and attitudes. It is, however, still far from being fully applied and has gaps. Attitudes are changing, but slowly.

The knife edge is how to challenge attitudes that produce misery without provoking a backlash, from the society and especially from its conservative Islamist elements. Many condemn any effort to help single mothers as encouraging prostitution, even as they claim to love and support children and families. So we move along this fine line, helping each individual to recapture her dignity, to keep her child when she can, and to make a new life for herself and her child. We are fortunate to have much support including from Morocco's Royal Family.

The mothers come to us deeply scarred, pained by their rejection, frightened for their future, and with few tools. Most are barely literate and have no resources. They may dream of love and marriage, but their options are few. Each case is a challenge, full of traumas. We see remarkable successes but also too many failures. So we need to move with caution but also with courage.

 
 
 

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This interview is part of a series of conversations with activists working for development and peace and drawing their inspiration from their faith, based on interviews led by Katherine Marshall for t...
This interview is part of a series of conversations with activists working for development and peace and drawing their inspiration from their faith, based on interviews led by Katherine Marshall for t...
 
 
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Bostontru2u
Keep on Moving...The Left Way.
03:19 AM on 12/31/2010
This woman is a shining light, in the dark ages of what is Morocco. Good Karma raises all.
06:19 PM on 12/29/2010
Empowering women like this lady is one of our greatest tools to try to modernize Islam, or at least tame it a bit.
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brooklyncitizen
Quaerite primum regnum dei
06:06 PM on 12/23/2010
This story is very humbling and inspiring.
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08:54 AM on 12/23/2010
god is a woman.
schatsie
banks are more dangerous than standing armies
07:35 PM on 12/19/2010
I for one applaud this woman and her love and acceptance of the children and their mothers...I don't care who fathered the children.....I would hate to say what Obama would say about these mothers, that they are undeserving of anything,,,,my heart weeps for the man he has not become.....This is harsh and unfair but so are the lives of the poor and dispossessed and to worry about the wealthy and privileged...what is that all about???...
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brooklyncitizen
Quaerite primum regnum dei
05:58 PM on 12/23/2010
what does Obama have to do with this?
seriously.
06:19 PM on 12/29/2010
what is that all about???..­.
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What is your spew about Obama about? What on earth?
04:36 PM on 12/19/2010
please speak with the president of the david Lynch foundation , Dr John Hagelin
about "saving the disposable ones"

none of my business but some typical obnoxious atheist comment might ask themselves how did children and women fare in atheist soviet union and atheist maodom ?

th eproblem is harsh stress load. igorance of deep absolute Bliss which is the heart of God [[[ god is not synonimous with the word religion ;
in the same way that capitalism isnt not synonimous with being a millionaire well maybe it is ; I mean capitalism doesnt mean no poverty ditto democracy isnt synonimous with great wealth or health [[ there are 100 000 000 chronically ill americans ]]; just so god doesn t mean no ignorance in peopel but knowledge and happiness is infinitely greater in god etc etc ]]]
03:36 PM on 12/19/2010
a good article about a good woman.....I just wish she wouldn't give her god credit for the decent things she's done...like so many well meaning people she doesn't see the irony (what we expect from a good and loving god and what we actually have)....In any case, I wish her well and much success.
08:04 PM on 12/19/2010
Your post is deserving of the kind of scorn which you heap on her and God.
11:02 PM on 12/19/2010
I heap no scorn on her, and can't heap scorn on her god as it doesn't exit.....What I was trying to say is that I compliment on her on her worthy goals and what she has done...but too bad she gives credit to an imaginary construct.....

as for your scorn...no issue there...I dropped the god thing long ago and am used to people being cirtical....I make no apologies......
09:54 AM on 12/20/2010
Is there any god in your mind that doesn't deserve scorn?
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brooklyncitizen
Quaerite primum regnum dei
06:00 PM on 12/23/2010
Maybe it is you that doesn't see the blessing.
To do much in her cultural context is astounding...some would say miraculous.
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08:54 AM on 12/19/2010
Asking any god for help with human rights--especially women and children--is the dumbest thing I can think of. The record shows organized religions exist to keep women and children in bondage of every means imaginable.
If there was a god--any god--no sane person could possibly believe that god liked women and children, based on the millenia of persecution they've faced.
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kadene
wordsmith
10:29 AM on 12/19/2010
What's even crazier is that some nuts propose that this same god could be a woman!
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02:19 PM on 12/19/2010
God a woman?

A woman is a Homo Sapien of the female persuasion. Is God a Homo Sapien?

When did God become a non-God?
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Silverwolf72
Are We There Yet?
01:42 PM on 12/20/2010
Look at paganism, mainly controlled by women.
04:18 AM on 12/19/2010
A travesty that Western secular ideological leadership would promote social engineering in the midst of stagnant and putrid corruption and systemic oppression that is Morocco.

The king of Morocco is the first to be 'reformed', either by being permanently shipped to Europe where his true heart is, or .....

Ideological rigidity that serves to emulate Western ideas will cause addition corruption in Morocco.
06:34 PM on 12/29/2010
What place is ideologically "pure" enough for you? Iran, after the 79 Islamic Revolution? Afghanistan, under the Taliban? The Sudan? Pakistan?

And don't try to tell me someplace that has not existed for centuries. I am talking about a place where supposedly Islamic culture and society are pure, today. After all, Muslims have over 50 countries in which to try to make it right.
08:11 PM on 12/29/2010
How about Saudi Arabia? Is it pure enough?
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Cindbird
02:02 AM on 12/19/2010
If you are a woman born in the United States, you are one of the luckiest women in the world. As such, we have a responsibility to help our sisters in other places where they are abused and demeaned just for being a woman. If there is a way for women here to help in this work, please let me know.
04:27 AM on 12/19/2010
Are you saying being a woman means "having sex outside of marriage" as morally acceptable?

The problems in Morocco are from the top down- they are not reserved only for women. And attempting to cater to only women's issues is serves to further complicate the type of social injustices and corruption which prevail there.

The king and his elites enrich themselves while ignoring their people- and this has been ongoing for a fwe generations so that women today are products of impoverished, often broken and corrupted families. It has become known throughout the Arab world that Morocco is a place of prostitution of men and women, including children. Sadly, many Moroccan women have taken prostitution throughout the region.
The answer is NOT to legitimize prostitution. The answer is to save the people. The 1st caliph of Islam, Abu Bakr, used to wander his city secretly helping poor people, including orphan girls. He used to give of his own wealth and protect them. Back then, the 2nd caliph of Islam, Umar, married his son to a righteous poor girl who he found while helping people. Education, culturing, guiding people right- that's all lost in Morocco. The king is now a billionaire and his elites are rich while the people continue in poverty.
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Cindbird
01:54 PM on 12/19/2010
It has nothing to do with prostitution. And just because a woman has sex outside marriage or is raped (two different things) doesn't mean she is a prostitute. It does mean however, that as a human being she has the right to live without fear of death because of it. It means that a woman who is raped and gets pregnant because of it should have access to help and decent medical care. It means that women have the right to shelter, food and spiritual support instead of being forced into homelessness just because she is pregnant. And what about the children of these women? Would you not want them to be cared for? Should a child be left to die in a orphanage? How is that following the dictates of Islam? Most women in prostitution AREN'T there by choice. They are driven into it because of poverty or some man who is wanting to make money off of her body and shame. Focusing on women's issues doesn't complicate things, it saves lives. And it gives a woman back her humanity and dignity.
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03:11 PM on 12/25/2010
I think you're simplifying this. Aicha Ech-Channa is concentrating on the problems only women (and their offspring) face because that is her focus and her passion. The implication that the legitimization of prostitution is the goal of this good organization is an insult. There's nothing stopping you or anyone else from concentrating on wider societal injustices. The combined efforts of your good works may one day bring about the change that is needed to wrest power from the hands of the corrupt.
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moderate before it was called liberal.
10:28 PM on 12/18/2010
more needs to be done for women around the globe, and I applaud those who
start the change...
Women around the World are abused, defiled, reviled... the children are punished for being born and thrown out....

"As a woman I have no country. As a woman my country is the whole world."
—Virginia Woolf
04:19 AM on 12/19/2010
And what is your plan for the family? And what about men, how will you organize men in your vision of a new order?
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kadene
wordsmith
10:31 AM on 12/19/2010
In the Islamic world I propose airlifting the women and leaving the men with their goats.
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02:29 PM on 12/19/2010
If you think Muslim women are liberal enough to be airlifted to the “safety” of the west, consider this:

It is the women everywhere who are the custodian of morality. It is they who instill and cultivate belief in the young ones. Islam is what it is because it is taught to the young ones by their mothers much like Christianity is what it is because of women.

The comment about men and goats is really despicable!
09:55 PM on 12/18/2010
I could not read the whole article. With so many people wanting to adopt in this country, is there no way to create a legal conduit so that at least a few unwanted babies might find a life here in the US?
04:21 AM on 12/19/2010
Yes, since the West has set up the Moroccan monarchy, defended it in its brutal oppressive measures and compliance with military authoritarian rule, and catered to Western decadence and prostitution of its people to deviant Westerners, why can't Moroccans just sell their kids to Americans, I mean, besides just for sex?
06:53 AM on 12/19/2010
Musa1: There are many in the U.S. who understand that our country has not always done good things internationally. However, these girls are suffering *now*. They and their babies need help *now*. And girls who are raped are not prostitutes. Girls and women around the world are victimized by men, often relatives, and not because of any way they behaved or clothing they wore, but because there are always some men who do these horrible things. Why are you labeling these poor girls? Don't you love your own sisters, daughters, mothers? Shame on you.
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02:52 PM on 12/19/2010
Many in the U.S. wash their hands of any responsibility by saying that many in the U.S. “understand that our country has not always done good things internatio¬nally.” What is happening NOW is the consequence of what was done THEN.

Not all prostitutes were ushered into it because of rapes. Is it not possible that what exists now is the result of deliberate cultivation of the western decadent ways? Intense media propaganda was carried out and is being carried out to convince the gullible that “sex outside wedlock” is really the symbol of freedom and not evil.

Prostitution or prostitute-like nonchalant attitude towards adultery and fornication seems to be supported under one pretext or another by those who understand that their country “has not always done good things internatio¬nally”,