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Dating Over 50: Going Slow Instead Of With The Flow

Posted: 07/02/2012 6:59 am

I've met some fascinating and accomplished women, and I'm becoming more comfortable around the dating process. It does, however, continue to present its challenges. I still feel anxious when I reject a woman's online invitation, or when a woman rejects mine. I don't want to hurt anyone's feelings, and I don't want mine hurt either. Rejections remind me that no one is everyone's cup of tea. It's an ego adjustment.

Online dating profiles don't really explain a person, and chemistry requires a face-to-face, so online dating has its limitations. Then there's the issue of dating etiquette, which doesn't appear to exist at all, and since there aren't any rules, dating behavior ranges from polite to rude. I've received responses from women who insist they've met their true love and are dating him exclusively, but are open to friendship. I have enough friends already, and I find it curious that a woman who has found the love of her life still posts her profile online. Spiders don't take their webs down when they've caught their dinner. Perhaps there's a parallel.

If I meet a woman, and we date and like each other, what's the next step? I realized after a brief relationship recently, that I wasn't ready to trust her. This became clear when a few weeks into the relationship, she wanted to step it up to the next level -- commitment -- and I backed off. I was anxious in part because a few weeks just aren't enough for me to feel trusting.

But trying to go slow in a dating world that operates at supersonic speed is difficult, because it's really easy to get caught up in the partnering race. There's enormous pressure, both self-imposed and societal, to be in a relationship. But rushing to fall in love makes falling in love impossible for me, because the pressure to commit doesn't allow my feelings to develop naturally. In truth, falling in love is hard to resist in midlife. Finding a partner is important to me, mostly for the right reasons.

In a fledgling relationship, issues like dating exclusively and consistently showing up emotionally, require serious consideration because they imply intention. When the feeling that something wasn't working for me in my new relationship kept plaguing me, I figured it was time to regroup. She was pressuring me to become sexual and go with the flow, neither of which felt okay with me. For me, this isn't the time for 60s casual morality, and bouncing back from a failed relationship is too painful to just go with the flow.

After a half-dozen dates, I began noticing the cracks in our relationship, and some were too big to paint over. I felt foolish for having gone off to the races so quickly. Sure, she had pushed for more intimacy, but I didn't have to acquiesce. My old demon, the need to feel loved, had been activated. I've defeated this pesky nemesis, but he's resilient. Staying out of my head and remaining true to my feelings is my best defense. So I gave my thoughts a rest and opted out of our brief relationship based entirely on my feelings.

We had glibly skipped the courting phase. But I need to court, because that's when it's still possible to see the other person without rose-colored glasses, and determine whether or not the relationship has legs. It's also an opportunity to discover the sweet subtleties of a woman's nature. Skipping the courting phase is a huge mistake for me, because courting is the only way I know how to fall in love. I won't repeat this mistake.

Fortuitously, our first big disagreement became our last, because it pointed to a bleak future in terms of resolving problems. I shared my feelings with her about something she'd done that had genuinely hurt my feelings. Her response was that I wasn't being emotionally honest. Since she had read my articles on emotional honesty in Huff/Post50, I was surprised by her accusation.

I told her that in fact I had just shared my emotional truth with her, and that my feelings are my absolute truth. Then she tried to convince me that my feelings weren't valid. Discounting, minimizing or judging another person's feelings is insulting and indicates a total lack of resolution skills. Circular arguments only occur when feelings are ignored in favor of opinions. Life's too short to engage in pointless arguments. Game over.

That we hadn't become sexual yet made ending our brief relationship uncomfortable, but uncomplicated. I felt good about having stuck to my guns regarding not becoming sexual too soon. A month of dating had exposed the absence of qualities I feel are important. I doubt I would have been able to see that clearly if we'd been sexual, because being sexual early in my past relationships had invariably obscured the problems and delayed the inevitable.

I'm sharing my dating anxiety in the certainty I'm not the only guy to experience mixed feelings about a woman. I hope this helps others who are uncomfortable in their relationships but can't articulate why. I didn't share my concerns about our relationship as soon as I might have, but a month isn't really enough time to be clear about anything. I'm reconsidering my dating behavior with the goal of becoming more adept at sharing my feelings more quickly. I'm also slowing down the getting-to-know-you process. I'm optimistic.

(Check out the slideshow below for five places to meet single people over 50.)

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  • New Blood At The Party

    Sometimes it feels like the foundation of your social life is so strong that you no longer find the opportunity to meet new and exciting people. Throw a barbecue or party in which guests bring a friend that no one in the group knows. Alternatively, tag along with a friend the next time their office has a company picnic or function -- this is a great way to meet somebody who you know is responsible enough to hold down a career and who you can 'check out' with an acquainted friend before you agree to a date.

  • Break The Gender Divide

    There's no longer a stigma about a woman learning to golf or a man taking a Pilates class, though such activities are still gender lopsided enough one way or the other to open up the dating options for the minority sex. In time you'll be able to go to a local public course and complete someone else's foursome, or cap off an exercise class by going for coffee with some of your fellow students -- both of which will give you the opportunity to meet a host of new people (most likely of the opposite sex). Just make sure you're doing something you want to do -- it would be a shame to begin a relationship under false pretenses.

  • Volunteer

    Organizations such as "Habitat For Humanity" allow you to come into contact with people of all ages and from all walks of life, all of whom have strong, respectable values. And it's not just a great chance to meet a prospective date -- volunteering attracts interesting, good-natured people who themselves are excited to meet new faces and make friends.

  • Join A Club

    Book clubs are great places to meet well-read, like-minded adults -- you can usually find one by calling your local library. Similarly, wine clubs, outdoors clubs and gardening clubs are good options as well depending on your interests. Joining a club allows you to grow as an individual and sets up the opportunity for you to meet someone who shares a common interest.

  • Go Online

    Singles over 50 are flocking to the online dating world more than any other demographic. It would be a shame to let 20th century prejudices about online dating spoil the opportunities that could await you with a membership. The perception that dating sites attract eccentrics or shut-ins is a dying one, but if you need convincing, just see for yourself the array of adults turning to sites like "Match" and "eHarmony" to help them begin meaningful relationships with interesting people. Here are the top five most popular dating sites for Post50s.

 
 
 
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OtayPanky
You're welcome
08:11 PM on 07/19/2012
KenSolin: But I need to court, because that's when it's still possible to see the other person without rose-colored glasses, and determine whether or not the relationship has legs.

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So...you think that in the early "courting before sex" phase you're really seeing the other person without rose colored glasses?

I'd say that happens "when the honeymoon is over", and you realize you're living your life with a complex human being rather than the sum of your projections and fantasies.

But, all that aside - I have to say that you're stuff is endlessly entertaining, Ken. It's a hoot and a half, really!
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Lori Woods
Widen your circle of compassion.
02:11 PM on 07/15/2012
Is this the modern version of kiss and tell? Don't kiss, but tell everything else?
03:01 PM on 07/13/2012
Good lord, this guy is so confused. And not at all "emotionally honest", even with himself. In comments to a previous article he wrote, he said he needed a 20-item list of qualities he needed in a woman, because boomer men can't afford to spend 6 months dating and finding out if there is compatibility (or something to that effect), so a checklist would tell him right away if this woman was the woman of his dreams. Now he says "a few weeks just aren't enough for me". What does he want?

I don't know if you have been to any real, professional therapy, or the men's groups you yourself organize are what you mean by "working on yourself", because it seems you don't have any grasp of what relationships are like. You want connection/intimacy, and fear it at the same time. One way to avoid relationships is to set impossible (which does not equal high) standards, so that no one ever meets all criteria, and which thus allows you to avoid intimacy without ever admitting to yourself that you fear intimacy.
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12:10 AM on 07/10/2012
It takes courage to be alone, though that doesn't mean lonely. At this age love doesn't just "come" along. You have to seek it and make smart decisions. Ending relationships IS painful and you made the right choice before it went too far.
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KitLyne
The warp is set, as to the weft, I'm open to ideas
10:02 AM on 07/09/2012
I thought this was a little confusing. Is casual dating courting? At our age if you go on 6 dates does that obligate you to be exclusive even if you're not having sex? Does the period of time between the dates make the most the difference? Does having or not having sex determine whether the relationship is committed? Does courting itself imply some kind of commitment? Does every date imply that courting is taking place?

I worry that something is wrong with my perspective when I feel that a casual date should not imply that I am interested in courting. Courting feels like there is a goal in mind. I would just like to go see a movie, or spend a day paddling in the kayaks and not feel uncomfortable about not being ready for a commitment. But at the same time, not give the impression that it is completely out of the question, someday, most likely not anytime soon.
01:53 PM on 07/07/2012
Interesting post. I really enjoyed reading it. Nothing wrong with a man opening up and sharing so much of himself. People today view this as a weakness in a man: Not so. Not everyone has the courage it takes to do this.

So, after sharing this post with my wife, I asked her if I can try dating again (...just to see if I still had it). She said, "..sure, go ahead. Maybe you'll get it right the next time".

Women can be so cruel. Guess I'll just mow the lawn.
01:31 PM on 07/07/2012
I applaud you, Ken, for your wish to find just the 'right girl' but mostly the ability to see you and whomever almost like you were looking on from afar. Thus, you recognize both your own 'failings' (for lack of a better word) but hers as well ... most importantly as how they affect your current, if not future, relationship. I'm an Old School gal myself. Any girl or woman who has sex with a guy they met just one hour ago or even just 2 or 3 months ago, has no respect for herself at all; sooner or later, the guy will feel disrespect for her, as well. Without respect, there's nothing. Nothing at all. Good luck in your search!
01:11 PM on 07/07/2012
What about dating for a few times and let the relationship take its course? Sex doesn't enter the picture here based on the values of each person in the relationship. If she jumps in bed with you on the first date, what is she doing when she dates others?

A "let's be friends" approach and see what happens is hogwash. Friends are everywhere and anywhere. If you date 2-3 times and recognize that the relationship has possiblities and both feel the saem way, why not date exclusively for awhile? If it doesn't, then it will end quickly. Time to move on.

If the relationship has a chance, time will tell because you will learn more about each other as it progresses. If a lady proclaims that all of her ex-suitors remained her friend, I would question whether she really wants any kind of a commitment.
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Deesker
01:07 PM on 07/07/2012
Maybe he should stop looking and then the right person will come along. When you have to force anything, it usually doesn't work out. He's a good writer! I like what he said. He just hasn't met the right person.
03:03 PM on 07/13/2012
And is hardly likely to meet one. Look at his checklist of 20 must-have qualities in another article.
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Deesker
05:49 PM on 07/13/2012
I just googled the article and read it. I think he's a very "emotional" guy and most guys just aren't that way. They're black and white. They don't talk about their "feelings." I am a woman so with that said, I think it's ok to have a wishlist of what you want but you don't want to spread it out so far that you aren't willing to compromise a little and maybe that's why he's still single, plus I really don't think most women like "emotional" guys.
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fhmjam
12:32 PM on 07/07/2012
If Ms. Lohan wrecked my $80,000.00 Porsche, I'd have to let her go.
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09:36 AM on 08/04/2012
Yeah, you have your standards, and I, for one, applaud you.
12:20 PM on 07/07/2012
I always enjoy what you have to say. You sound like a great guy who has it all together.
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I Ride My Own Harley
A woman rolling solo & free.
11:54 AM on 07/07/2012
First of all..........there is more to life than a man or a woman in it. Why does everyone think they have to have significant other or they don't feel complete. I have $. I don't neeeeed a man. Don't want one either. They only like me for my $. I'm not prize beauty but money talks a big game (sometimes). Oh...she's secure. I'll sweet talk her & she'll let me move in & she'll take care of me & let me use her car, etc....NOT! Those men just thought they seen me coming. HA! Anyway.......guys.....if you're over 50+ & you still don't have $$$, then you're not relationship material. Women my age expect a man with BANK. PERIOD. We don't necessarily want you to take care of us but we do expect you to meet us half way on some things. Ex: if we have our own place.....then you have your own place. If we have a nice car, then you'd better have a nice vehicle. If we have good credit, then you better have good credit. NO debt. After 50..NO child support. We independant gals are tough now. Can't walk all over us like used to.
02:14 PM on 07/07/2012
Dear Ride My Own Harley:

I, too, love motorcycles and ride mine every chance I get. While I like everything you said, I disagree with one point (Not being relationship material after 50 w/out having money). I am over 50 and don't have a lot of money. But there's more to a relationship than just having money. I possess a lot of things that money can't buy (...wisdom and kindness being at the top). Nonetheless, there's more to life than money. But, much like you, I don't have time for a sponge in my life, either. I'm happy when my dog chooses not to push his food out of his bowl with his nose! Take care, my friend.
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I Ride My Own Harley
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04:03 PM on 07/07/2012
greenfinpopfish2....I don't have time for sponges either. I'm not one if that's what you're implying. I have my own security. Kindness goes a lot further if you have a little greenback to go with it. There's not much more to life than $ for me. I need security.... a job, roof over my head, vehicle to get me to work, food, gas, electric, phone, $ takes care of that for me. Not love or kindness. That never paid my bills.
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teecee656
02:42 PM on 07/07/2012
While I agree with you, that anyone over 50 should be financially secure, one question that is always in the back of my head is pretty straight forward. Should something untoward happen, am I willing to push her wheel chair or is she willing to push mine? I applaud your independence and your feisty character, but I also know that to find true intimacy in a relationship, it has to feel safe to be vulnerable with unconditional acceptance. Happiness, as you pointed out, doesn't come from someone else "making" you happy, it's an inside job. If you're not happy by yourself, no amount of money or any relationship can fix that.
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05:45 PM on 07/08/2012
I'm no sponge. Men try to sponge off me.
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sandmn7442
11:28 AM on 07/07/2012
Sounds like a classic relationship male to me, cant get out of the way of his own ego. Love is in the heart, that's where emotions live. Relationship is in the head, that's where the ego lives. As long as one tries to cntrol one with the other, failure is guaranteed. You can't control the emotions with the head, only let the ego intervene. Ego is anti-relationship, the pretense that I am separate in this relationship. That simply isn't true. Two people, considered together, are NOT separate. The withhold is the problem and the illusion that I can control US with ME is anti-relationship, anti-love.
08:36 PM on 07/07/2012
Yes, I like this. When you experience the outrageous true love where two become one, where love rules and there is no separate you or separate I, the illusions of the world become clear and amusing.

In this culture it is taught that the egoic mind must lead, and the tender heart, suspected of irrationality and foolishness and femininity, must follow. Yet it is in the heart where true love lies, where soul energy, spontaneity, exuberant joy and love of life reside.

There is not a heart in the human world that, were it assured of safety, would not open instantly. It is all an issue of fear. The mind with its fear wants assurances, makes lists and rules, erects walls and obstructions and objections and complex belief systems, makes drama, gets offended, all as a way to allay and protect against fear.

And so many choose to live in anger and fear and ego and lose sight of heart and love. Underneath anger is fear and underneath fear is longing.

The heart knows the soul better than the mind does. And unless the mind is in service of the heart and love, it becomes a warped and twisted master than blocks the flow of love.
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sandmn7442
09:51 PM on 07/07/2012
Beautiful! F&F beautifully written. I find these blogs handicapping in that the space is limited and it's necessary to get to a point before space runs out. You write beautifully and truly. I'm impressed both by your understanding ANd your expression. I'm going to make a copy of your words. I have a tendency toward verbose and I want to save your economy and depth. Namaste
We live in a world of science and mindfulness which is actually empty mindlessness in the over-all big picture. We are surrounded by pretentious gurus laying claim to everything from mastery of God to what's best and right for the world, not coincidentally just like them. Science has replaced spiritualism and profit has replaced love of humankind. I applaud you for your understanding. Today I have met two enlightened souls, you will no doubt meet the other one if you stay on blogs long enough, I did. Namaste to you and yours, you are a blessing.
04:46 AM on 07/08/2012
Feelings as one's basis for absolute truth or decision-making seems foolhardy. Feelings are unstable, being fleeting, fluctuating, shifting, evanescent, often meaningless, influenced by thoughts and blood sugar levels and ultimately the endless clamoring of the egoic mind. In an hour, one's feelings bounce from gladness to irritation to anger to calm.

Feelings are often based on erroneous beliefs and false perceptions. When I saw a snake on the floor of a hut where I was staying the night, fear feelings arose. Shining a flashlight on the floor, I realized the form was a piece of rope, not a snake. False belief, erroneous perception and feeling.

Egoic thoughts and feelings block access to the heart and soul where true deep emotions and essence lie. Ruled by fear, the ego seeks to maintain control and give the illusion of safety. The heart knows when true love and the heart's desire beckon.

Fear is never love and love is not afraid. There is nothing to lose for love. Why should love be afraid? Love only gives. It is not a business transaction. Love enjoys giving, as naturally as flowers release their fragrance. Love is outgoing, fearlessly reaching to the other, tremendously trusting that it will be received --- and it will. Fear is shrinking within yourself, closing yourself.

If you must fear, be afraid of your ego, which blocks love, the love that can make a great celebration out of your life.
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sandmn7442
09:34 AM on 07/08/2012
Profound. I applaud your ability to conceptualize and am in awe of your ability to express yourself. Inspirational! "A Course in Miracles" took almost a year to read. The author separates love and fear as polar opposites (my words). You said an incredible amount in five paragraphs. If you're not already a writer, you should be, at least collecting writings. The beauty of your gift is knowing tha all you ideas, once written, begin anew when you let go. The closer I come to releasing my fear, even of my ego, the more I realize the folly of what I believed was survival. Thank you for your gift. It's a privilege to have "talked" with you. Namaste
11:09 PM on 07/08/2012
I fanned you so your comments come to my email. Logging on to say - you are an extraordinary person Whalepeace. It's such a pleasure reading your comments, you're as sharp as they come and caring too. Many blessings for your presence here, I think you enrich this community.
10:52 AM on 07/07/2012
You sound like a woman, dude. Stop with all of the emotions and feelings....and just have a good time. Over-thinking is the woman's job.
12:22 PM on 07/07/2012
I respectfully disagree. I think most women are attracted to guys like him.
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janet41652
No rose colored glasses for me
12:45 PM on 07/07/2012
I would like a man like him.
01:11 PM on 07/07/2012
Well, my experiences absolutely contradict that. (I'm a man). Things have gone far better with women (including in the relationship context) when I did not get emotional about things and relaxed considerably. Basically, I've found that the less I care, the more likely things are to work out well.

To me, his article shows that he has little dating experience, for whatever reason.
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04:55 PM on 08/05/2012
Yeah, I don't like what you said, but I like the way you said it.
09:14 AM on 07/07/2012
Every man I meet just wants a "bed buddy"! NONE are willing to court a woman and find out if she is Ms right or Ms right now! Wish I could meet a man that wanted a deeper relationship than only sex, guess I will stay open, but I am not hopeful.
10:48 AM on 07/07/2012
Maybe because you have no skills or talents?
12:23 PM on 07/07/2012
That's a mean thing to say.
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09:42 AM on 08/04/2012
VERY creepish of you. Why would you say such a mean-spirited thing?
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sandmn7442
11:35 AM on 07/07/2012
Men want to be ultimately cared for. What they hear women say is, "I don't do THAT unless I really care about a guy." That sets up a challenge, 'If she really cares about me, we must be having sex." Then one day they have sex, he says to himself, "Now she really cares about me, and it's not all that special, " Once they get done, it feels empty. Duh, there's no relationship established. It just reproves to him that her relationship just isn't that special, he leaves and doesn't call back. Women have relationships from a young age. Men don't have intimacy until they get with a woman, as a teenager, and they're WAY BEHIND. Men are form people, want someone beside them. Women are content people, they want relationships to be supportive and happy. THe job women face is training a sensitive guy how to do things like open up, trust, LISTEN. They don't know those things until someone teaches them what they are.