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Posted: February 3, 2010 12:57 PM

Breaking: Penn State Inquiry Finds No Evidence For Allegations Against Michael Mann

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Penn State University has concluded that there is no evidence to substantiate the claims made against climate scientist Dr. Michael Mann surrounding the emails stolen from the Climate Research Unit at East Anglia University.

An inquiry panel was set up early this year to look at allegations made by right-wing bloggers and media outlets against Penn State University climate scientist, Dr. Michael Mann, relating to the contents of emails stolen from the Climate Research Unit at the University of East Anglia in London.

On all 4 of the allegations made against Dr. Mann the panel has concluded that there is no evidence to substantiate the claims. 

However, the panel has recommended that the allegation that Dr. Mann "engaged in, directly or indirectly, any actions that seriously deviated from accepted practices within the academic community for proposing, conducting or reporting research or other scholarly activities," be further investigated.

Dr. Mann issued a statement today on the findings, saying that:

"I am very pleased that, after a thorough review, the independent Penn State committee found no evidence to support any of the allegations against me.

Three of the four allegations have been dismissed completely. Even though no evidence to substantiate the fourth allegation was found, the University administrators thought it best to convene a separate committee of distinguished scientists to resolve any remaining questions about academic procedures.

This is very much the vindication I expected since I am confident I have done nothing wrong.

I fully support the additional inquiry which may be the best way to remove any lingering doubts. I intend to cooperate fully in this matter – as I have since the beginning of the process."

The full report of the inquiry panel can be found here: Concerning the Allegations of Research Misconduct Against Dr. Michael E. Mann

 

 

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06:26 AM on 02/08/2010
ReadYoung is always provide us with some interesting material.
What they show?
Only how politisized science of climate change.
Calling all his oponents "liers", "deniers" he show only how politisized he.
Dear ReadYoung, please stop kindergarten game-stupid, not you stupid, etc.
Answer on dierect questions.
You didn't do it before and repeat your tactic again.
Naming others do not make you smarter, honest and something else, what you are not.
Show your knowledge.
What about swearing? I can do the same on English, Russian, Latvian and not so good many others languages.
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ReedYoung
global mean temperature, obviously INCREASING
10:27 AM on 02/08/2010
I have told you many times, your method is incorrect. First, I told you respectfully, but the more you lie and willfully disregard the correct methods of science, the less respect you deserve. Accordingly, I have shown you gradually less respect since first 'meeting' you. You have earned it.

"Answer on dierect [sic] questions."

Science works by research, not interrogation. You do not overturn other scientists' work by rhetoric. If you dispute their findings, the burden is on you to do your own research and prove that your findings are more correct.

Water does not cool the atmosphere. This is conclusively proven and understood by all legitimate scientists. It is not open for debate.
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ReedYoung
global mean temperature, obviously INCREASING
10:36 AM on 02/08/2010
Only peer-reviewed scientific research counts. Science has these rules to prevent thoughtless trash from corrupting the process. Work within the system and its rules if you're competent to do so. And if you aren't, don't blame me for just pointing out that these are in facts the rules of this profession whose work you dispute.
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ReedYoung
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02:16 PM on 02/07/2010
"Reed, please show us where M&M lied throught their teeth. This would be very interesting and since you are charging it, you should be able to back up such a strong statement."

First, a summary of their lies:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kevin-grandia/great-video-debunking-the_b_381881.html

That video contains *documentation* of Rush Limbaugh, Alex Jones, Glenn Beck and Bill O'Reilly lying through their teeth, and it *explains* why their statements are lies, *challenging* the viewer to use Google (Scholar) to search the scientific literature for the word "trick" and its customary meaning therein.

But I know **you** won't bother to take any effort to find facts that disprove your preferred belief system, so I'll now briefly lay out the case, with links to documentation, that the phrase "hide the decline" was a reference to eliminating known-incorrect data from a larger set, not anything dishonest.

First, the "decline" is not a decline in temperature but a decline in the responsiveness of certain tree rings to known temperature change post-1960, making those tree rings poor proxies for temperature during that time. Therefore, the reason to "hide" that decline is to prevent a *spurious* decline in *responsiveness* from falsely implying temperatures which direct measurement disproved. That's GOOD SCIENCE.
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ReedYoung
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02:43 PM on 02/07/2010
The key point that disproves the wrong-wing media's story about the phrase "hide the decline" is that THIS WAS ALL EXPLAINED IN THE ORIGINAL RESEARCH, conclusively and indisputably PUTTING THE LIE to the claim that the climate scientists ever tried to conceal anything that actually happened, such as the non-existent TEMPERATURE decline James Delingpole, Alex Jones, Anthony Watts and a pile of "News" Corporation liars have claimed.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kevin-grandia/michael-mann-in-his-own-w_b_371414.html

If any of those "journalists" wanted to report the facts, they could have easily checked their premises against the original paper in which the alleged offense would have occurred. But none of them tried to be sure their story was true, or even plausible, before parroting the accusations all over the Internet, radio and teevee. As a result, what they reported were blatant, defamatory lies that have literally wasted millions of dollars worth of honest, qualified scientists' time.
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ReedYoung
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03:06 PM on 02/07/2010
Ah, my mistake, that was a request to prove that McIntyre & McKitrick lied through their teeth. I'll get to that shortly, 'goodspkr' and in the meantime, the above is more pertinent to the present topic anyway.
09:01 AM on 02/07/2010
Lesson learned: We should no longer pay attention to allegations from any right wing source. They are all LIES!
11:12 AM on 02/07/2010
It is easy to say 'LIES!'
It is difficult to be not so lazy to understand another point of view, to answer on correct questions about sites provided by supporters of mistakes of Al Gore &C, which mostly written by incompetent writers, to keep mind of incompetend supportes.
04:33 PM on 02/07/2010
I already tried to understand the other point of view, and it didn't make sense. I also found that right wing sources about any subject are mostly lies.
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ReedYoung
global mean temperature, obviously INCREASING
04:55 PM on 02/07/2010
Don't preach to us until you apply the same standards to data stolen from climate scientists and false stories about what the stolen data mean.
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climbing panda
there's a log in my cabin
03:59 PM on 02/05/2010
penn state has absolutely no interest in finding one its most prestigious professors innocent of all charges. absolutely none. how about a review by an independent panel?
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DocSkull
My questions aren't rhetorical.
10:07 PM on 02/05/2010
What makes Mann the "most prestigious" professor? There were no "charges." What evidence do you have that they didn't conduct a proper review or that Mann did anything wrong?
09:02 AM on 02/07/2010
Reichwing nuts don't need evidence. Everything they say is a lie.
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climbing panda
there's a log in my cabin
04:02 PM on 02/08/2010
if he did nothing worng then an independent review wouldn't hurt.

i didn't say "the'most prestigious'". i just said one for the most prestigious. he is a contributor to the ipcc. that makes him a pretty important scientist since he has a voice in an international body backed by the UN.

i'm not saying the review did anything wrong, but if the lapd conducted its own review into the cops in the rodney king case would anyone be satisfied with that answer? they weren't even happy with a review by the judicial system.

on a topic as politically charged and important as anthropomorphic global climate change it's imperative that there be no appearance of any impropriety, but there is so much of it lately.
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ReedYoung
global mean temperature, obviously INCREASING
01:34 PM on 02/07/2010
Fox "News" and congenital liar Anthony Watts took absolutely no interest in critiquing the evidence which the data thieves asserted that the stolen e-mails contained.

How about a review by an independent panel before they run with the next story?
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climbing panda
there's a log in my cabin
04:08 PM on 02/08/2010
i believe you meant compulsive liars, since congenital means a defects related to fetuses.

that aside. the thieves didn't assert anything, they merely published the emails. whether documents were stolen or not they say what they say. mann coming out in defense of himself and saying that they use "tricks" all the time is demeaning and belittling to an intelligent public. his elitist rhetoric basically said you're all too stupid to understand our jargon so don't even try.

what your question suggests is a step towards fascism. an independent board of review set-up by who and examining what? would it be a government panel or a government appointed panel? would they review every news story? the true review panel is the public. we decide what to watch based on what they produce.
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ReedYoung
global mean temperature, obviously INCREASING
10:52 AM on 02/10/2010
No, it is not demeaning nor belittling, except to a lazy, ignorant and dishonest audience which does not know, has not checked, or will not admit that in fact, the word "trick" is used exactly that way, including in the titles and abstracts (for non-scientists, that means the introductory paragraphs) of academic fields as dissimilar as mathematics, biology and economics.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kevin-grandia/great-video-debunking-the_b_381881.html

So, what, they're all announcing on the front page of their reports that they're cheating? Or "trick" is used by scientists very much the same way as it is used by snow boarders, stunt bikers and skate boarders? Which interpretation of all the relevant facts is really more reasonable?
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doriath22
Born-again Jacobin. Robespierre had the right idea
02:02 PM on 02/05/2010
Wow, a whole $500,000? Over how many years? Did it say how many grad students will have to live off of that money? Gee, that would almost be enough to pay for a half-dozen Hellfire missiles!
09:56 PM on 02/06/2010
Carbon credits are way bigger business than 500k, but of course you NEED a problem to fix to put it all into action and turn on the non-stop money machine called carbon credit trading....which produces what for the average citizen? oh another bill or tax to pay.
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ReedYoung
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10:12 PM on 02/06/2010
Straight to the conspiracy theory, as soon as the premise is questioned. Classic.
09:46 AM on 02/05/2010
Recently Mann was granted $500,000 of research money from the stimulus bill, even while under investigation. How many jobs did this save or create?

Your tax dollars at work.
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DocSkull
My questions aren't rhetorical.
10:38 PM on 02/05/2010
If the claim is true -

It is hard to say, but probably dozens of students, administrators and suppliers of university equipment. Since Mann himself doesn't keep the money and there is no profit, it all goes to use.
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amber15
02:52 AM on 02/05/2010
Don't worry, even if the earth was to melt down in 5 years time politicians would hoodwink the masses into pretending everything is rosy for those few extra bucks they think they'll be getting to line their pockets.
10:49 PM on 02/04/2010
Whitewash. For now......
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DocSkull
My questions aren't rhetorical.
03:23 AM on 02/05/2010
Why do you think it was whitewashed? Why can't you guys level specific accusations. You merely assume higher and higher levels of conspiracy without evidence for any of it.
09:10 AM on 02/05/2010
"Point 1. Penn State President Spanier is quoted as saying:

“I know they’ve taken the time and spent hundreds of hours studying documents and interviewing people and looking at issues from all sides,” Spanier said.

The only interviews mentioned in the report (aside from Mann) are with Gerry North and Donald Kennedy, editor of Science. [Since they are required to provide a transcript or summary of all interviews, I presume that the Inquiry did not carry out any other interviews.] What does Donald Kennedy know about the matter? These two hardly constitute “looking at issues from all sides”. [A CA reader observed below that "North [at a Rice University event] admitted that he had not read any of the EAU e-mails and did not even know that software files were included in the release.”] They didn’t even talk to Wegman. Contrary to Spanier’s claim, they did not make the slightest effort to talk to any critic or even neutral observer. "


http://climateaudit.org/2010/02/03/the-mann-report/

Perhaps this has something to do with it.
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LastAngryWoman
waiting for godot
04:00 PM on 02/06/2010
These are the same people who, after hearing the military deny they are responsible for poisoning over 7,000 people on the island of Vieques, due to an 'investigation'...believe them. They would never, ever accuse that of being a whitewash.

But if you are a university, you are an intellectual elitist-type outfit, and not fit for deciding anything.

Funny, I notice that most climate change deniers are anti-intellectual, anti-reading, anti-education republican/independents who like to call themselves 'patriots'.
10:41 PM on 02/04/2010
OK informed guys, DocScull, Riverman, and Reed Young-you put a lot of information and acusation.

Let start debate with my first question.
In Wired, June 2008 Matt Power wrote:
"Ronald Reagan's infamous claim that "trees cause more polution than automobiles" contain a grain of truth... Canadian forests actually give up more carbon from decomposting woods, than they luck down in new growth"
If Ronald Reagan and Matt Power are correct, why we need trees?
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ReedYoung
global mean temperature, obviously INCREASING
04:33 PM on 02/04/2010
A lot of deniers are claiming the summary is inaccurate, misleading, etc. First, I remind you all that "innocent until proven guilty" is not only the law, outside of court it is also good manners, basic decency even. When you make the opposite assumption, you give the impression of having been raised in a barn, by swine.

Dr. Mann has been accused of four separate claims of misconduct. The first committee, whose findings are reported here, found no evidence supporting any of the four accusations. They judged that one of the four *accusations* is a matter of science, and correctly judged themselves unqualified to judge that matter, so they assigned a committee of scientists to consider that accusation, because of the nature of the *accusation* itself, not based on any finding on the evidence, neither of its credibility nor its lack of credibility.

As non-scientists, they admitted they are unqualified to opine on that fourth matter. You should all do the same in public, and if you have anything to say, say it to the science committee.
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Riverman
The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars,
06:22 PM on 02/04/2010
To the denier quacks proceeding with zero evidence is just what they do so think it's just normal.
10:18 AM on 02/05/2010
"A lot of deniers are claiming the summary is inaccurate, misleading, etc. First, I remind you all that "innocent until proven guilty" is not only the law, outside of court it is also good manners, basic decency even. When you make the opposite assumption, you give the impression of having been raised in a barn, by swine." RY

I'm getting a little confused. Are you talking about this board, or are you talking about the Obama Administration's comments about KSM and how he will be tried, convicted and executed?

I really think your comment about them as being raised in a barn, by swine, is a bit harsh.
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ReedYoung
global mean temperature, obviously INCREASING
03:01 PM on 02/07/2010
You're entitled to your opinion, of course. I think that was extremely generous of me, and my only worry was that I was bordering on defamation of actual pigs.
03:54 PM on 02/04/2010
This is a very misleading article. The University clearly made efforts to circle the wagons around one of their elite however Mann has not been exonerated of the implications against him and in fact the matter has been referred to a subsequent committee for further investigation. His scientific inquiry was seriously called into question and this by bi own people. I do not believe anybody expected him to be tossed for his spurious activities.
Keep in mind this is the original author of the disreputable "hockey stick graph" that is at the heart of the IPCC reports and recommendations. This is as fraudulent as science gets and as accurately rebuffed as Piltdown Man was in it's day.
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ReedYoung
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04:17 PM on 02/04/2010
The "hockey stick" survived Congressional inquiry led by Joe Barton, and the few errors found in MBH98 ultimately led only to minor revisions. McIntyre and McKitrick had to lie through their teeth, to the corporate media and to Congress, in order to encourage your misinformed opinions.
05:20 PM on 02/04/2010
No, it didn't survive the inquiry, and M&M didn't lie. The committee's Wegman report discredited the hockey stick, and the NAS agreed with Wegman's conclusions. The IPCC no longer uses the hockey stick.
05:43 PM on 02/04/2010
Nonsense. The "hockey stick graph" evidence is falsifiable meaning I can take more inclusive evidence and point to an opposing conclusion. Does the phrase "urban heat sink" ring any bells with you?
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DocSkull
My questions aren't rhetorical.
04:17 PM on 02/04/2010
These are just more empty accusations. Put some facts on the table. Very specifically tell us what evidence did the committee ignored, what about Mann's activities are "spurious," his research "disreputable," and what role does it play in the IPCC's conclusions?
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fumes
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10:47 AM on 02/04/2010
Black Carbon A Significant Factor In Melting Of Himalayan Glaciers
February 3, 2010
"The fact that glaciers in the Himalayan mountains are thinning is not disputed. However, few researchers have attempted to rigorously examine and quantify the causes. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory scientist Surabi Menon set out to isolate the impacts of the most commonly blamed culprit -- greenhouse gases, such as carbon dioxide -- from other particles in the air that may be causing the melting. Menon and her collaborators found that airborne black carbon aerosols, or soot, from India is a major contributor to the decline in snow and ice cover on the glaciers. "Our simulations showed greenhouse gases alone are not nearly enough to be responsible for the snow melt," says Menon, a physicist and staff scientist in Berkeley Lab's Environmental Energy Technologies Division. "Most of the change in snow and ice cover—about 90 percent—is from aerosols. Black carbon alone contributes at least 30 percent of this sum." The findings are significant because they point to a simple way to make a swift impact on the snow melt. "Carbon dioxide stays in the atmosphere for 100 years, but black carbon doesn't stay in the atmosphere for more than a few weeks, so the effects of controlling black carbon are much faster," Menon says. "If you control black carbon now, you're going to see an immediate effect."
http://www.physorg.com/news184435527.html
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Riverman
The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars,
11:03 AM on 02/04/2010
So what is your point? For these particular glaciers there is an affect besides just global warming. Did you notice that that this paper does not suggest that AGW is not effecting these glaciers and nor did it in any way suggest that any thing at all about AGW is false. It simply indicates that in this location AGW is not the biggest disaster happening right now.
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fumes
Midnight Toker
12:58 PM on 02/04/2010
CO2 is not the enemy..

soot is!

drill baby drill and capture that soot..
03:34 PM on 02/04/2010
RM, what is your point. Are you saying you want the glaciers to be advancing? Or do you want them to be stationary? Is that even practical?

I live in the Rocky Mountains and they were formed by glaciers advancing. I love to ski but I don't think I want the glaciers back.
11:12 AM on 02/04/2010
Dear fumes, I could agree with this article, but "If you control black carbon now, you're going to see an immediate effect."
It is so simple to be true.
Of course soot play it role in nature, especially for Himalayuas mounts.
We must remember many others things, what mankind made in continents.
We reduce evaporation of water on continents by cutting trees to free areas for crops production.
Monoculture of crops production also reduce evaporation of water.
Tilling of land and harvesting crops decrease reflection of direct sun radiation, the same as our housing, commercial buidings, roads, parking lots and many others human activities.

To fight these influence of human activities we have only one the cheapest tool - increase evaporation of water on continents.
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jmpurser
See My micro-bio
09:33 AM on 02/04/2010
So, once again all the spin, hype, confusion, and data "spindle, twist, and mutilate"ing is on the side of the oil companies and their loyal stooges.

Golly I'm shocked.
09:54 AM on 02/04/2010
We could be independent from foreign source of energy if we will realize in full scale how water actually cool the atmosphere.

We need also realize that water droplets in the clouds are the best solvent for GHG and rain bring them to the land to feed the plants.

Increasing amount of evaporation on continents we will not only decrease amount of GHG in atmosphere, but also increase amound of rains on continents.

Trees are the best tools to do this jobs-their leaves have big combined areas to evaporate water by sun energy, they roots have possibilities to take water from the land better than roots of other plants.

Wood in the trees conserve sun energy for hundreds years without any batteries.
Mature forests do not produce new oxygen-Photosynthesis produce oxygen, old trees when they rot takes oxygen.
It is nothing wrong to cut old trees and use them in oven for electricity production and if all transportation system will be changed on electric we will be free from oil.
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Riverman
The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars,
10:06 AM on 02/04/2010
It's a good thing we have actual scientist that actually do research and then publish that research in detail with all the math and every conclusion supported by facts contained in the text. Otherwise we could be confused into believing any damn fool with an agenda like yourself. If you have any interested in being honest about AGW then here is some light reading for you to make a start with

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=seven-answers-to-climate-contrarian-nonsense
10:34 AM on 02/04/2010
Dear Riverman, you must read links, which you provide more carefully.

"In fact, water vapor is why rising CO2 has such a big effect on climate. CO2 absorbs some wavelengths of infrared that water does not so it independently adds heat to the atmosphere. As the temperature rises, more water vapor enters the atmosphere and multiplies CO2's greenhouse effect"
This statement confirms that water vapor play bigger role in heating the atmosphere even compare with CO2. (They multiplies CO2 greenhouse effect.)

If so and if you will agree that amount of water vapor over oceans is bigger than perhaps in desert of Africa on the same latitude, why?

WHY in desert are hotter?

If you will try honestly answer on this question you will found some others mistakes in site, which you provide.
09:30 AM on 02/04/2010
I am really surprised, why so many smart people in the world ignore properties of water:

Water vapor is lighter than most gases in atmosphere and because of that they have tendency to go up 2-7 miles close to space. Clouds are confirm this statements.

We need huge energy to evaporate water, because of that close to lakes, river, seas, oceans is always cooler in summer time..

In atmosphere we always have not only water vapor, but also-water DROPLETS in form of fog, clouds and particles, which together with dust, pollen, fumes, etc responsible for visibilities.
Evaporation of these particles produce water vapor which not only takes energy, but have tendency to go up to clouds level.

Condensation of water vapor on clouds level released energy back, but this energy is close to space and more easely go to space than on oceans level.

Properties of water actually cool the earth and only blind persons couldn't see that.

Climate change could be real, explanation why it is happen is completely wrong.
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Riverman
The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars,
10:55 AM on 02/04/2010
Do you really think that this lame BS is going to undo the conclusions of the scientific community and National Academy of Science and their counterparts in the sixteen most advanced nations on earth? Beside like all the AGW denier points its all been considered and included because it is a real effect or excluded as false by the scientist that publish their work In the likes of the Journal science and not here.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=seven-answers-to-climate-contrarian-nonsense
11:23 AM on 02/04/2010
Dear Riverman, as reader you must be more sceptical to what you read.

Analyse your reading!

I am sure that you have enough education to confront ideas, before you take it as real facts.
Your site is not scientific, but usual propaganda machine.

And by the way I am not AGW denier, but I have enough knowledge to understand that properties of water vapor actually cool the atmosphere and could be used as cheapest tool to fight any climate change, better, than properties of GHG in your site explanations.
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ReedYoung
global mean temperature, obviously INCREASING
04:10 PM on 02/04/2010
Drop it, Mike. You're being flagged for lying.
http://www.grist.org/article/climate-scientists-dodge-the-subject-of-water-vapor/
01:45 AM on 02/04/2010
One of the early criticisms of Mann's early methology was that it extracted hockey sticks even from pseudo-proxies generated from red noise. I put this claim to the test and found it to be true. You can see the results and even download the code here:
http://climatesanity.wordpress.com/2009/12/13/michael-mann-averaging-error-demo/.
His more recent 2008 version of the hockey stick used 1,036 proxies to build a temperature history of the Northern Hemisphere. If you look at the plots of all of these proxies you will find that the vast majority of them do not look like hockey sticks at all, but a few of them do. However, a sub-set of 71 proxies from Luterbacher looked very much like hockey sticks.
However, the Luterbacher proxies are not really proxies at all. They are geographical interpolations of a different proxies. The problem is that prior to about 1760 there are only about 10 very vague "documentary information" proxies which are used to make the early parts of all 71 of the Luterbacher proxies that Mann used. I call these the "amazing multiplying proxies."
These approximately ten vague proxies then weigh very heavily to help make the handle of the hockey stick look flat.
You can see the details of what I have described here:
http://climatesanity.wordpress.com/2010/02/03/amazing-multiplying-hockey-stick-proxies/
05:17 AM on 02/04/2010
Outstanding thanks
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Riverman
The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars,
10:33 AM on 02/04/2010
So you say this is sound science. Are you going to publish this in the Journal Science? Please if you have legitimate science then subject it to the process that all legitimate science must survive if it wants to be accepted. I supposes you have some explanation for why the scientific community does not accept your interpretations. When you do get this published and it is accepted then get back with me. Until then I will regard it as the noise that it is.
01:16 PM on 02/04/2010
Hmmm, so the scientific community is of one mind? I guess that would be closed if I follow you.