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Dress Code Discrimination: Different Figure, Different Rules?

Posted: 12/28/11 09:42 AM ET

In April of 2010 there was a controversy raging over an ad run on TV by Lane Bryant showing a beautiful model in very sexy lingerie. The model, Ashley Graham, was far from the first women to wear a bra and underpants on TV. Certainly Victoria's Secret shows the same amount of body area in their ads. The only difference? Ashley is a plus size model.

The lacy bra Ashley was wearing showed the same amount of cleavage as models in Victoria Secret ads promoting add-a-cup push-up bras -- not a big difference in what the French call "décolletage." The only true difference I could see was that the panties of your typical Victoria's Secret model are cut lower than what Ms. Graham wore.

But obviously the fuller-figured Ms. Graham, in her lingerie, presented a dilemma to the "those in charge." The networks said they would only run the Lane Bryant ads after 9 pm at night even though it was standard to see commercials for Victoria's Secret (featuring thinner models in similarly skimpy attire) in earlier time slots. Graham commented at the time that when

"We (women) have a little bit of extra, you know, overflowing, everybody freaks out."

But while the Victoria's Secrets ads -- not to mention the company's annual primetime fashion show -- seem to be accepted by the media, the Lane Bryant ad wasn't. It was considered too risqué, too sexual in tone. Why? Because the lovely Ms. Graham is voluptuous and some people saw that as a problem, as in way too sexy for TV despite the definite sexual air provided in other lingerie ads.

Others, however, viewed it as outright weight discrimination.

Fast forward to 2011 and the new fashion craze, leggings and tunics; women are wearing them everywhere, even to work. Now it seems that these trendy outfits may be a discrimination issue brewing for some women, those who are called voluptuous.

"We have a dress code at my office; neatness and dressing professionally is the key. Women have been wearing leggings, tunics and boots this year and it was all acceptable. It is a very trendy, professional way to look," said my friend Samantha who is curvy and a healthy weight for her height of 5'6."

But when I came in one day wearing black leggings and a blue tunic I was called in by my manager late in the afternoon and told that I was dressed improperly. I didn't back down, I asked her what she meant. About twenty women in my office were wearing leggings and tunics, including a very attractive woman in her late fifties. Quite frankly, we were all wearing a variation of the same type of outfit including heeled boots. What was different about me?

The office manager told Samantha that the problem was that the outfit she was wearing showed her curves a "bit too much." Samantha was incensed and told the manager that she didn't understand why she was being singled out. Were the other women also being told not to wear leggings and tunics? The office manager said no and, trying to placate Samantha, went on to say that outfits that accentuate the figure aren't for "certain women." It just looked, well, too sexy and vulgar in a way, she said, the way the material clung to a woman of Samantha's build. The manager advised my friend against dressing in tunic and leggings. She smiled and bade Samantha goodnight, assuming the issue was over.

My friend is not someone to be put off easily, especially when she feels something is unfair and unjust. She was angry enough to take the issue to human resources, (who said they really couldn't do anything), and then to insist on a private meeting with the director of personnel. The director listened intently to her complaint and agreed with Samantha that there was nothing wrong with her outfit but a lot wrong with what her manager had said. He would definitely speak to her about it and tell her how inappropriate her remarks were. He assured my friend it would not be tolerated.

Samantha told me she felt that she had scored a small victory for women. After doing research for this article I'd say there are still more battles to be won. Here are some facts to ponder.

-Today's clothing mannequins have a hip measurement of 30-31 inches. In contrast the average woman's hips measure 37 inches. If today's mannequins were actual human women, based on their theoretical body fat percentages, they would probably cease to menstruate. The clothes on these mannequins are size 2 and under.

-50 percent of women wear size 14 or larger, but most standard clothing outlets cater to sizes 10 or smaller.

-Illustrating how fuller women are viewed is a Catch-21. They're seen as both sexy and overweight. Model Elizabeth Hurley stated in an interview that "I've always thought Marilyn Monroe looked fabulous in clothes and she was sexy, but I'd kill myself if I was that fat."

-Fat? She was 5'5" and weighed 134 pounds. Hardly fat.

-When a group of 20 men and women were asked to name five current well-dressed female television news personalities who are fuller and curvier, fewer than 1/3 could do so yet almost all could name the thin or very thin ones.

Whether modeling lingerie or dressing in a similar manner to what others in the workplace are wearing, a woman should not be discriminated against because she has "bit more to show." If the fullness of a normal woman's body is considered too sexy by some people who are in charge, network or employer, then we have a problem.

The name of the problem is weight discrimination no matter how the issue is soft-pedaled or worded.

© 2011 Copyright Kristen Houghton

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Nopinky
08:54 AM on 01/05/2012
There's a lingerie store in the mall near me, and every time I walk past the window I am ASTOUNDED that the mannequins ALL got boob jobs. They're seriously size 0-2 with D cup breasts! They distort the clothes and frankly just look as ridiculous as the real women who get giant floatation devices pasted on top of wobbly stick frames.
08:23 PM on 01/05/2012
I'm a size 4 and have E cup breasts naturally. I realise it's rare but I surely hope I don't look too ridiculous :-)
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Kristen Houghton
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03:56 PM on 01/09/2012
What we have that is natural is realistic. What manufacturers create is not. I am sure you are gorgeous!
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Kristen Houghton
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03:55 PM on 01/09/2012
Thank you Nopinky. Interesting statement.
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08:13 AM on 01/05/2012
I'll start with I'm Hispanic, and on both sides of my family there is plenty of Mediterranean ancestry...I was slim-curvy when I was young, and in my forties I became bodacious, though I've heard "fat." I used to work with a group of women who objected to my clothing, to the point of having a supervisor (female) tug at my hemline and neckline on a day when I was wearing a longer skirt and higher-necked top than the one being worn by a late-20s, white, blonde, skinny employee. It was mortifying... The men in my office, if they thought anything about my figure, kept it to themselves; the women, on the other hand, would comment amongst themselves. My husband is an HR Manager, and he won't hesitate to say what he thinks because he takes his work seriously. I told my supervisor the other girl's skirt was tighter, shorter, more revealing; I got "she can pull it off, she's skinnier."

I fluctuate from a 10 to a 12 and I'm 5'7"; I can move freely inside my clothes..why should I be targeted because I'm distributed differently? That's what it IS...an issue of distribution!
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french queen13
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04:03 AM on 01/06/2012
Hell's bells, that supervisor must think "stick thin" is normal! The sizes you quote at the end, for your height, sound slim to me.
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Kristen Houghton
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04:07 PM on 01/09/2012
Agree with french queen13.
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Kristen Houghton
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04:01 PM on 01/09/2012
Thank you MBGarcia. Your supervisor is way out of line with her comment. If a woman is dressed professionally and appropriately for her job then that's it; no one should comment. BTW, what audacity to pull at your hemline and neckline! That's reportable as harassment.
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04:44 PM on 01/09/2012
Ah, yes. I reported her to herself and she, being older, gave a song and dance about dressing appropriately.

I think she viewed herself as a mother-figure and I made sure to clarify that I already had a mother and that she'd taught me how to dress appropriately for the workplace and for my body type. This didn't go over well, but we managed to work together for another whole year before she was dismissed for unrelated HR issues.
01:51 PM on 01/04/2012
This effects more than the overweight.Investment bank, formerly worked in an IT consulting firm, and make an effort to dress the part. Ive invested a lot of money since I entered the workforce 4 years ago into suits and tailoring. I'm saving my pennies to buy blazers at Ann Taylor. However I have consistantly been told my attire was not "appropriate" due soley to my body shape. I am thin and pettite yet have a fuller hip/butt and a large chest. For example I was wearing a brand new pencil skirt, high waisted and the hem was below the knee. I was called into speak with my manager. I was told the skirt was "too much". I protested saying I bought it at a store that caters to work attire and ironically, another girl in the office was wearing the exact same skirt! I asked if she was being reprimanded also. I was then told she wasn't because "it looks different on me than on her. It's just not appropriate for my body". I was floored! On another occasion I was wearing a turtleneck sweat and was told I should really consider wearing a blazer since it would break up the visible size difference between my chest and waist. Again when I protested I was told "That's just how it is. This is your body and you need to accept that you cant wear what every other women is wearing."
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Kristen Houghton
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04:04 PM on 01/09/2012
Thank you Andrea in the City. I am outraged at these comments. Since when did it become alright for one person to wear a work outfit and not another due to body shape? We really and truly need to let it be known that what's appropriate for one is apropriate for everyone.
08:20 AM on 01/03/2012
It kind of makes me giggle that emaciated women with bolted on implants are not deemed sexy, but real women are. The same is obviously the case in the workplace scenario. Our attire standards have eroded over the decades. What once would have been a proper outfit for perusing garage sales, is now boardroom appropriate. But when the casual attire actually reveals a womanly figure, all bets are off!
All amusement aside, the key to workplace attire is to NOT draw attention to your sexuality. If you have an overtly sexy body (aka curves) tone it down. I natter a bit about it here: http://heresheisboys.com/2011/09/27/fashion-mistakes-they-can-be-lessened/
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LynneSpreen
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04:33 PM on 01/03/2012
Great point, Brenda! Seems we REALLY know what sexy is, and it ain't scarecrows.
http://anyshinything.com/2011/11/11/the-courage-to-be-average/
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Kristen Houghton
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07:09 PM on 01/03/2012
Thanks Lynne, love the site!
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Kristen Houghton
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07:10 PM on 01/03/2012
Thank you BrendaNYC. Your insight is wonderfully refreshing and the site is great!
09:25 AM on 01/04/2012
Aren't you kind. Thank you!
12:55 PM on 01/02/2012
Different Figure, Different Rules?

That should be as obvious as stating the sky is blue, "proper attire" is like obscenity, you may not be able to define it clearly and decisively, but you will know it when you see it.

There are certain things I do not wear as they make me look ridiculous, even though they look good on other women. 35+ women should not try to dress like 20 somethings and vice versa...Older women look like wannabes and I look like I raided mummy's closet, people are just not going to take either of us seriously.

Size matters as well, form fitting clothes do not look good on larger women, while lose fitting clothes look "sloppy" on thinner ones =/
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Kristen Houghton
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06:25 PM on 01/02/2012
Thank you for your comment HAlexandria
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french queen13
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08:28 PM on 01/02/2012
Depends on how it's form-fitting and the individual size and shape, I think. Stretch clothes (and there's precious little to find in the stores that isn't stretch, where I live) can be dire on anyone. It's like those low-cut, plumber's-crack jeans that give even the slimmest figure a muffin-top; they aren't flattering on any body of any age. But clothes that are cut well, or tailored (if one should have that sort of cash and like that style) can look terrific on a larger body.
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surfette72
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11:20 PM on 12/31/2011
Ok, look. This isn't rocket science. Appropriate dress for work means just that: appropriate. I, myself, work on a ranch so for me appropriate is jeans, t-shirt, and good quality boots. When I worked in an office it was appropriate "office attire." The workplace is hardly the "appropriate" place to make a statement: "I'm going to show them and wear what I want, by gosh!!" Save that for girls night out or a date with your sweetie or a party or whatever. If this seems "unfair" or just not clear for you, perhaps you should re-think where you choose to work.
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Kristen Houghton
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08:55 AM on 01/01/2012
Excellent insight surfette72!
Hookedonfashion
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08:04 PM on 12/31/2011
While I think this poor woman was discrimintated against, I don't think leggings and tunics are appropriate for work at all, they are casual attire (OK for casual Fridays though). I think all of the women in the office should have been told to dress more professionally.
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Kristen Houghton
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09:00 AM on 01/01/2012
While I think tunics and leggings can be made to look professional, I have to agree with your comment about casual attire. The "Casual Fridays" look was taken a bit far by some.
02:36 PM on 12/31/2011
This is beyond size discrimination it is Sexism in action. WOMEN CAN NOT BE BIGGER THEN MEN. This is the root of it POWER. Try and keep a big WOMAN down.
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Kristen Houghton
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09:00 AM on 01/01/2012
Thank you for your comment jjayne14.
08:21 PM on 12/30/2011
I was witness as a child to the same sort of discrimination toward my father; he was extremely overweight when I was growing up and had admitted to me outright that many times he was passed over for a promotion that went to someone less qualified with less experience. I know it was because of his weight, because he was highly respected in his field.

Now that he's retired and eats mostly oatmeal, he's at a healthy weight. Too bad society is so shallow that we don't value what's inside the package.
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Kristen Houghton
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09:50 PM on 12/30/2011
I feel for your Dad. Too often society only sees the outside package which is so limiting. Intelligence comes in all sizes. Thank you Reina Missy.
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nix28
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02:54 PM on 12/30/2011
While I do believe that discrimination occurs due to weight, I also wonder if this has to do with having curves (a jealousy issue on the part of those without). From the "skinny girl" side of the coin, I've been spoken to about my clothing choices, because me in a pencil skirt is apparently more provocative than a girl without curves in the same skirt. I feel that as long as I, and plus size curvy women, are dressed appropriately for our work, there should be no other concerns. Nobody should have to second guess their clothing out of fear that, because they fill out their clothes that they will be seen as too sexy or inappropriate.
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Kristen Houghton
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03:56 PM on 12/30/2011
As a teenager I was once told by a female teacher not to wear sweaters because, "They seem to cling to your chest". Thank you for your comment nix28
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french queen13
my beloved is mine and I am his
06:10 AM on 12/31/2011
Teachers can be so weird ... when I was in first grade my teacher told me I wasn't allowed to wear trousers without a skirt over them, because "they'd get dirty". My mother stormed down to the school and told her I wasn't wearing two days' clothes at once because of her outdated notions! (This was in the early 70s, the teacher was probably pushing retirement age and I'd bet the 'dirty' line was code for 'girls shouldn't wear trousers, period.')
01:29 PM on 12/30/2011
The hard truth: plus size women are TOO SEXY.
There is huge discrimination. It's not our fault that us plus size women have more to flaunt off, even when we aren't trying.
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Kristen Houghton
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03:58 PM on 12/30/2011
Thank you Tiana. More or less to show shouldn't matter; we should all be treated the same a far as dress codes go.
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french queen13
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06:26 AM on 12/31/2011
Oh for the days of fashion designers like Balenciaga - I read an anecdote by one of his staff once that I've never forgotten. One of their regular customers was having a fitting, and was apologetic about having put on some weight. "Oh no, Monsieur likes ladies to be bigger; it gives more support to the costumes" was the fitter's response. Oh for the days when dress designers liked (and had the skill to, ha) fitting clothes around actual, curved, mature female bodies.
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inmyhumbleopinion
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11:48 AM on 12/30/2011
Hmmm. While I agree the examples you've cited re: the Lane Bryant ad and your friend and her leggings at work constitute discrimination, I also believe many of us are slaves to fashion and often wear outfits that are "in style" but clearly not flattering to one's figure. Not knowing your friend, it is possible that her outfit was not the best look for her body type. Was it wrong for her boss to comment on it? Absolutely. But I think we all have a lot to learn from the folks on "What Not To Wear" and really understand our body types and evaluate what looks good on us, particularly in a professional environment. That's not weight discrimination. It's working with what you've got to present the best image.

I'm short and I have a big bustline. I know that wearing baby doll style tops or dresses look ridiculous on me because (a) they make me look heavier than I am and (b) it creates that "shelf effect". I have to wear things that cinch at the waist to look my best. Fact of life and I just work with it, which often means I must forgo the latest dictum from Seventh Avenue and go with more classic, tailored styles.
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Kristen Houghton
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04:31 PM on 12/30/2011
I do agree that we are all slaves to fashion. (Ah, fashion I love you!) That being said we should police ourselves clothes wise. Thank you inmyhumbleopinion.
05:41 PM on 12/30/2011
Thank you so much for saying this! This is what my mother and I have been saying for years when we see some of the ridiculous and sometimes downright frightening things that people will wear out in public. My mother and I have struggled with our weight (despite exercise and healthy diet) and she has always raised me with "wear what looks good on you, rather than whatever the current trend is". I just wish more people would follow this.

And it's not always about weight either (although that does seem to come in to play more often). One time walking through the mall I walked past an easily 70+ year old woman wearing nothing but extremely low rise jeans and a high cut sports jacket, baring her midriff to the world. Yes, she had the body for it, but even if she had been in her 20s the outfit would have looked slutty. All she needed to make it look nice (and perhaps even classy) was a shirt of some sort, could have even been form fitting, to cover her midriff.
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Kristen Houghton
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09:21 AM on 12/31/2011
My Pilates teacher is 64 and has a fabulous body and face. She wears skinny jeans but she pairs them with a jacket or crisp white shirt when she goes out. That's classy and nice. Thank you Jennifer for your comment.
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Antidiot
11:06 AM on 12/30/2011
I see this problem all the time, not only in adult workplaces but with the kids in school. It is ridiculous. I can't believe there are no comments here.
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Kristen Houghton
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04:32 PM on 12/30/2011
Children in school have their own weight discrimination issues. Thank you for pointing that out Antidiot.
10:51 AM on 12/30/2011
It's funny but slender women are viewed as attractive but their bodies kind of sexless, like those of young boys. Chesty girls have a similar problem.

Everyone should have the same dress code, obviously. But as a guy let me say that if guys are thinking too much about having sex with you, especially if you dress sexy and kind of invite the attention, nobody gets much work done!

A great model is the medical field, where all kinds of dress, hair, makeup, etc. are banned for everyone.
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Kristen Houghton
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03:59 PM on 12/30/2011
Interesting comment about the medical field Pole Dancing. I just learned something new.
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french queen13
my beloved is mine and I am his
06:22 AM on 12/31/2011
Pole Dancing's comment about slender women's bodies being kind of sexless puts me in mind of the model Andrej Pejic - who's a beautiful blonde, very feminine looking, got voted 'world's sexiest woman' by some men's magazine in May ... and is a young man. He's not transgender, he's male. He's even done a bra ad now. I think it says a great deal - none of it good - about the fashion industry's real feelings about women.

There's a picture of him in this article from The Age. It's not him I find disturbing - far from it, actually, good on him for bucking the trend, especially in this macho-idiot country - but the fashion industry, well, that's a whole different matter.

http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/a-broady-boy-called-to-the-bra--thats-the-beauty-of-it-20111223-1p8kd.html