The Sting of Climate Crisis -- On Your Leg
Two days ago I heard a blood-curdling scream from my twelve-year-old who was swimming twenty feet away from me in a large salt water tidal pond. What could possibly have happened? Seconds before she was laughing and splashing with her friend. Now she was crying with a huge red welt on her leg. It was a nasty jellyfish sting.
Hundreds of red stinging jellyfish have just shown up around Martha's Vineyard and the Cape like never seen before. Today the swimmers stayed on shore, the waterskiers stayed home and everyone was discussing the jellyfish population explosion. Then the front page of Sunday's New York Times provided an explanation.
The jellyfish explosion is worldwide. Scientists blame a number of factors including overfishing, but most importantly a rise in seawater temperature caused by global warming. "The warmer seas and drier climate caused by global warming work to the jellyfish's advantage, since nearly all jellyfish breed better and faster in warmer waters," the Times reported. The article describes a scene a few weeks ago on a typical warm summer day in Spain, when -- in a period of hours -- over three hundred people on Barcelona's beaches were treated for stings. Talk about the climate crises hitting home.
Back at the pond my daughter's friend felt the effects of global warming herself not eight minutes later. She cried too.
Lisa Kaas Boyle: Urgent Need for an Underwater Park System
Grossly polluted, overfished to the point of near collapse of many fish stocks, and home to giant "dead zones" incapable of sustaining life, the oceans are in a state of dire threat.
Graham Hill: Branzini - The Greenest Fish You've Never Even Heard of
It's a green fish! Well, actually silver-colored and farmed, with a delicate taste, but it promotes much greener aquaculture methods.
Graham Hill: Jellyfish Spaghetti and Your own Carry Container = Happier Oceans
Apart from an unexpected comeback of cod stocks in the Baltic Sea, it's hard to find good news about our oceans this year, and bottom trawlers and population pressures on Earth are not helping.
Katy Hall: Ted Danson Hopes Jellyfish Burgers Aren't On 'The End Of The Line'
Ted Danson narrates a new doc that reveals an inconvenient truth about our love of seafood: if unsustainable fishing practices continue, we could see the collapse of the world's fisheries by 2048.
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@MGhamma
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And it's all right here on this thread in black and white. You can't even keep up with me, and I'm not a scientist.
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There are no "facts" to support Human Caused Global Warming(Yet The Planet Is Cooling). There is inept reporting and recording, there is hysterical innuendo and there is complete and utter BS...
Would you like me to list some of the "facts" that support Human Caused Global Warming(Yet The Planet Is Cooling) ???
Polar Bears eating their own is PROOF of Human Caused Global Warming(Yet The Planet Is Cooling)
Fact?? No... Fiction...
Snows of Killamanjaroo melting is PROOF of Human Caused Global Warming(Yet The Planet Is Cooling)
Fact?? No... Fiction...
Robins being seen in the Canadian Northwest Terrorities is PROOF of Human Caused Global Warming(Yet The Planet Is Cooling)
Fact?? No... Fiction...
And so on and so on and so on..
There are your "facts"....
I'll ask again, since no one has been able to answer..
If the threat of Human Caused Global Warming(Yet The Planet Is Cooling) is real and it's 100 months away imminent, why isn't anyone putting any REAL money up to actually do something about the problem!?? Why is Al Gore spending $300 million of OTHER PEOPLE's money to TALK about Human Caused Global Warming(Yet The Planet Is Cooling)???
Until you can logically and rationally answer that question, none of your "facts" (such as they are) mean diddley squat...
Michale.....
No, the planet is not cooling. You keep making the same inane statements, but I'll leave you to your own fantastical world view. You seem to have a kind of monomania.
By the way, mountaintop glaciers are melting all over the world, despite the fact that scientists think the melting of Kilimanjaro may be caused by other factors.
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No, the planet is not cooling. You keep making the same inane statements, but I'll leave you to your own fantastical world view. You seem to have a kind of monomania.
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http://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&channel=s&hl=en&q=Planet+Cooling+Last+10+years&btnG=Google+Search
Michale.....
Observations of intraspecific predation by polar bears in the southern Beaufort Sea (U.S.Geological Survey)
Intraspecific killing has been reported among polar bears....Between 24 January and 10 April 2004, we confirmed three instances of intraspecific predation and cannibalism in the Beaufort Sea. One of these, the first of this type ever reported for polar bears, was a parturient female killed at her maternal den.....
During 24 years of research on polar bears in the southern Beaufort Sea region of northern Alaska and 34 years in northwestern Canada, we have not seen other incidents of polar bears stalking, killing, and eating other polar bears.
We hypothesize that nutritional stresses related to the longer ice-free seasons that have occurred in the Beaufort Sea in recent years may have led to the cannibalism incidents we observed in 2004.
http://alaska.usgs.gov/science/biology/polar_bears/unusual_mortality.html
Regarding mountaintop glaciers...
'Mountain glaciers in non polar regions have retreated significantly during the 20th century.'
Mountainous glaciers are retreating in many parts of the World and one particular area, scientists are concerned about is Alaska - around 500 cubic miles of ice have been lost from here in the last 50 years. The glaciers retreat when there is less snow in the winter than what is melted away in the summer.
In Europe, the situation is worrying too. Since 1850, half the volume of Europe's Alpine glaciers has disappeared and it is thought that by the end of the century half of those left, will have gone.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/climate/impact/glaciers.shtml
Scientists generally agree that almost all glaciers in Europe have been retreating during the last one hundred years and they expect that the retreat will continue. Some small glaciers have vanished totally, and others have retreated further up mountains,..
http://www.geography-site.co.uk/pages/physical/glaciers/climate_effect.html
The rapid shrinking of No 1 Glacier on Tianshan Mountain in Northwest China's Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region is a clear warning of the reality of climate change.
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2007-07/17/content_5437262.htm
SOUTH AMERICA
The northern Andes contain the largest concentration of glaciers in the tropics, but these
glaciers are receding rapidly and losses have accelerated during the 1990s.
http://www.wwf.fi/wwf/www/uploads/pdf/glaciersraportti.pdf
@realpolitic
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Where do you get your estimates of $50 billion spent on studying global warming?
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It was mentioned on another site I frequent. www.chrisweigant.com
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Also, do you know we spend $12 billion a month in Iraq?
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What does that have to do with anything??
We're talking about the con that is Human Caused Global Warming(Yet The Planet Is Cooling) and how, if it is such a serious and imminent threat, why doesn't anyone put money into FIXING the problem, rather than just talking about the problem???
Michale.....
Earth Impacts Linked to Human-Caused Climate Change
May 14, 2008
"A new NASA-led study shows human-caused climate change has made an impact on a wide range of Earth's natural systems, including permafrost thawing, plants blooming earlier across Europe, and lakes declining in productivity in Africa.
The study, to be published May 15 in the journal Nature, concludes human-caused warming is resulting in a broad range of impacts across the globe.
Observed impacts included changes to physical systems, such as glaciers shrinking, permafrost melting, and lakes and rivers warming. Biological systems also were impacted in a variety of ways, such as leaves unfolding and flowers blooming earlier in the spring, birds arriving earlier during migration periods, and plant and animal species moving toward Earth's poles and higher in elevation. In aquatic environments such as oceans, lakes, and rivers, plankton and fish are shifting from cold-adapted to warm-adapted communities.
http://www.giss.nasa.gov/research/news/20080514/
@realpolitic
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If Al Gore was just a rich guy who sat around smoking expensive cigars all day, it would not change what is happening to the planet. Trying to reduce the climate change issues to Al Gore and Richard Branson serves what purpose?
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It exposes their con for what it is.
It shows that supporting the likes of Gore & Branson does absolutely NOTHING for the planet and the environment but rather just serves to make Gore and Branson richer...
It also serves to show Lenin's "useful idiots" in hopes that they won't be so blinded.
As to what can REALLY be done???
Take a look here:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/karin-kloosterman/100-months-and-counting-u_b_117413.html
Michale.....
I would think Gore supports a windfall profits tax on oil companies, funding public transportation, energy efficient buildings, and alternatives to fossil fuel use. I am glad that you and Gore are on the same page.
And this discussion on global warming ends up like the rest of them, with the deniers backed into the political corner by the "true believers"....*snark*.. who pushed them there with the scientific facts. You can set your watch to it.
Good guys win again!!
Michale, you and your like ALWAYS start talking about Al Gore when you lose the debate on the global warming issue based on the scientific facts. And it's all right here on this thread in black and white. You can't even keep up with me, and I'm not a scientist.
Very true!!
@realpolitic
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Polar bear populations are diminishing amd many mothers are losing weight to a point they may not be able to birth.
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Prove it. And provide the causal links to Human Caused Global Warming.
You can't because there are no provable links..
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Greenland's glaciers are melting.
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Yes and they have been melting for hundreds of years... Long before humankind was industrialized.
This is exactly my point. The Human Caused Global Warming fanatics take the facts and rip them to shreds and try to link them to Global Warming...
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Sometime like eight of the last ten years have been the hottest on record.
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WRONG, sonny jim...
The data used to make that determination was flawed...
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=8383
* Only 4 of the top 10 warmest years occurred in the past 10 years (1998, 1999, 2006)
* Out of the top 10 warmest years half occurred before 1940
* The years 2000, 2002, 2003 and 2004 were cooler than the year 1900
* 1996, just two years before what Al Gore called the hottest year in the history of the planet, was actually cooler than average.
* 1921 was the third warmest year in recorded history (behind 1934 and 1998).
I don't even have to bother listing CURRENT events that show record LOW temps around the world...
You have been conned....
It's THAT simple...
Michale.....
All you climate change deniers always say "prove this and prove that." Don't you ever look anything up for yourselves? The Bush administration when they declared polar bears a "threatened species" cited concerns of sea ice loss, thus indicating climate change was the cause.
"The IUCN Polar Bear Specialist Group reported that of the 19 subpopulations of polar bears, five are declining, five are stable, two are increasing, and seven have insufficient data on which to base a decision. On May 14, 2008, the U.S. Department of the Interior reclassified the polar bear as a Threatened Species under the Endangered Species Act, citing concerns about sea ice loss. Canada and Russia list the polar bear as a "species of concern."
Climate change is the main threat to polar bears today. A diminishing ice pack directly affects polar bears, as sea ice is the platform from which they hunt seals. Although the Arctic has experienced warm periods before, the present shrinking of the Arctic's sea ice is rapid and unprecedented.
http://www.polarbearsinternational.org/bear-facts/
For the final time, NO ONE is denying Climate Change...
Anyone who denies that there is climate change is a fool...
The problem is that the hysterical fear-mongering disciples of the Gore'acle claim it's ALL humankind's fault....
And that is patently ridiculous and totally absurd...
Human Caused Global Warming (Yet The Planet Is Cooling) is a POLITICAL issue, not a scientific issue...
Michale.....
Michale.....
The Bush adnministration was responding to a lawsuit brought by environmentalists, by definition extremists. There has been no scientific deternmination that the Polar Bear is in any danger of extinction.
"Acting in response to a lawsuit by environmental groups including the Natural Resources Defense Council (NRDC), "
source: http://pubs.acs.org/subscribe/journals/esthag/41/i22/html/111507news5.html
The entire argument that a warming climate will cause the extinction of Polar Bears is itself specious and easily impeached. Polar Bears have been around longer than thought, 130,000 years, in fact. Source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7132220.stm This implies the Polar Bear survived the Eemian interglacial period, which ended about 110,000 years ago. The Eemian is significant because it was warmer than today by as much as 5 degrees C for a sustained period of 15,000 years. Therefore, the present modest warming, far less than the Eemian, will NOT cause the extinction of the Polar Bear. Anyone who says otherwise is ignoring the paleozoological proof to the contrary. The Bear is not presently endangered and should not be listed on the Endangered Species List.
Regarding temperature, you are speaking of temperatures in the lower 48 states of America. The data from NOAA is speaking of global temperatures.
"The year 2007 tied for second warmest in the period of instrumental data, behind the record warmth of 2005, in the Goddard Institute for Space Studies analysis. 2007 tied 1998, which had leapt a remarkable 0.2°C above the prior record with the help of the "El Niño of the century".
The eight warmest years in the GISS record have all occurred since 1998, and the 14 warmest years in the record have all occurred since 1990.
Finally, we note that a minor data processing error found in the GISS temperature analysis in early 2007 does not affect the present analysis. The data processing flaw was failure to apply NOAA adjustments to United States Historical Climatology Network stations in 2000-2006, as the records for those years were taken from a different data base. This flaw affected only 1.6% of the Earth's surface (contiguous 48 states) and only the several years in the 21st century. The effect of this flaw was immeasurable globally and small even in its limited area. Contrary to reports in certain portions of the media, the data processing flaw did not alter the ordering of the warmest years on record. Obviously the global ranks were unaffected. In the contiguous 48 states the statistical tie among 1934, 1998 and 2005 as the warmest years was unchanged.
http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/2007/
@realpolitic
Also, for the record, I have NEVER, EVER, NOT ONCE listened to Rush Limbaugh..
I am a confirmed Obama supporter and, with a few exceptions (4 to be exact), I am probably more liberal than you are.
So, you REALLY need to check your facts before you start your spewage...
Michale....
How do you know with four exceptions you are more liberal than I? I may be a conservative!!
In that case, I am DEFINITELY more liberal than you... :D
Michale....
@MGhamma
7 billion people pissing in MY Atlantic Ocean is something you made up...
It was a proportional example. To be accurate, if you increase the proportions on ONE side of the equal sign, you MUST increase the proportions on the OTHER side of the equal signs or the conclusion is meaningless..
However, you illustrated my point perfectly with regards to the "science" of Human Caused Global Warming...
Those hysterical types who put out the fear mongering will look at computer models and tweak one side of the EQUAL SIGN to produce the desired result... "Oh, that Carbon Dioxide projection is just WAY too low to have any kind of impact. Let me tweak this entry.... Ahhh Yes, MUCH more impressive... THAT will scare the hell outta people!!!"
The simple fact is, humankind's presence on this earth is a mere speck o' time in the lifespan of the planet.. Estimates place the age of the planet at 4.5 BILLION years....
That's 4,500,000,000 years.....
Modern man started appearing around 200,000 years ago...
If you take 1940 as the start of the industrial revolution, you have 68 years...
So, what you are trying to tell me is that the Earth has been running FINE for 4.5 BILLION years and that, in the last 68 years, human kind has managed to screw up the earth nearly beyond ANY hope of salvation..
Is THAT what you are trying to say???
Michale.....
Fairly accurate, but not beyond any hope of salvation. That is why scientists have identified the problem, are studying it, and scientists, politicians, and the business community are considering alternatives for our salvation.
And yet, not ONE RED CENT has been spent on actually DOING something about it..
$300 million would buy a LOT of solar power systems for homes..
Yet Al Gore (and you, apparently) seem to think that the $300 mil is better spent on an Ad Campaign.. In essence, even though Al Gore has said the time for talking is past, Al Gore wants to spend $300 million on MORE TALKING...
Can you explain the logic of this??
No you can't..
The simple fact is, Al Gore is simply all about making Al Gore richer... Richard Branson is paying 1.5 BILLION dollars TO HIMSELF and he calls that "helping the environment".. He then turns around and builds a spaceship that puts TONS of pollutants into the atmosphere... And for what?? To send a handful of TOURISTS into space for 20 mins..
Can you explain the logic of THAT!??
No you can't..
You are being conned.... You and all the other Human Caused Global Warming (and yet the planet is cooling) types are being conned on a scale unprecedented in our lifetime...
It's really THAT simple...
Michale.....
Michale....
@Belisarius
Jellyfish recipes :D
http://fooddownunder.com/cgi-bin/search.cgi?q=jellyfish
Michale.....
Thanks Michale. The cold jellyfish recipe sounds about right. I may try to whip some up and do my part to end this crisis.
The Chinese have figured how to cook and prepare everything and it's usually very tasty.
Some of the best meals I have ever had was on Okinawa where I met my lovely wife of 27 years.. :D
Oriental meals in general have always had soft spot in our hearts.. :D
Michale.....
Here's my main beef...
Al Gore has said that the time for debate on Human Caused Global Warming is over. Ignoring the COMPLETELY hypocritical aspects of that statement, let's assume it it accurate.. The time for talk is over... I don't agree, but let's run with it..
So, the time for talk is over. So what does Al Gore do? He goes out and raises another $300 million.. And what for??
TO TALK MORE ABOUT HUMAN CAUSED GLOBAL WARMING!!??
Do you know how many homes could be equipped to run COMPLETELY on Solar Power for $300 million?? Approximately 30 THOUSAND homes!! $300 million would buy approx 15 THOUSAND hybrid cars that could be used so that people could trade in their gas guzzling polluting cars for nice efficient and very little polluting hybrids...
But noooooooo... Al Gore would rather use that money to make ad agencies and lawyers and lobbyists and (incidentally) Al Gore richer...
Look at Richard Branson.. He is spending billions to build a spaceship that is going to dump TONS of pollutants into the atmosphere. Why??
So he can send a HANDFUL of tourists into space for 10-20 minutes...
And you people FOLLOW this kind of hypocrisy... Ya'all swallow it, hook, line and sinker...
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So Michale, you're just mad at rich people because they won't buy you a solar panel?
No...
I am mad that people treat Al Gore like the second coming and expect ME to treat Al Gore like the second coming when it is obvious to ANYONE with two brain cells to rub together that Al Gore is a hypocrite and a con man and that so called Human Caused Global Warming (yet the Earth is cooling) is the biggest con of our time..
THAT is why I am mad...
Answer me one question..
If Al Gore is so concerned about the environment, why hasn't he spent ONE red cent to actually do SOMETHING, ANYTHING that actually SERVES some purpose besides making Al Gore richer?????
President Carter has actually built homes for the needy..
How many homes has Al Gore converted to solar??? Hell, his OWN home is the epitome of extravagance and waste....
When the likes of Al Gore and Richard Branson actually ACT like there is an imminent global catastrophe, THEN I'll believe that there actually might be...
Not until....
Michale.....
Is global warming Al Gore's fault?
YOU claim Global Warming is man's fault. To the extent that Al Gore is a member of species homo sapiens, and engages in those human behaviors YOU claim contribute to global warming, it is Al Gore's fault.
Therefore, by your own claims elsewhere on HuffPost, YOU claim global warming is Al Gore's fault. Q. E. D.
Hoist them on their own petards.
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According to estimates, 50 BILLION (yes, with a B) has been spent studying Human Caused Global Warming...
And yet, NOT ONE RED PENNY has been put into actually DOING something about it...
I told MGhanna before that I wasn't angry.. I was wrong.
I AM angry...
I am angry that Al Gore flits around all over the world in private jets and limos and talks down to me and tells me I have to conserve.. Meanwhile our gas bill (with ONE commuter) is 3 times our food bill (Family of 5) per month!
I am angry that Richard Branson wants to "donate" 1.5 Billion dollars to HIMSELF to "help" develop new alternative energies. I am angry that Al Gore encourages people to buy "carbon credits" from... You guessed it.. Al Gore...
I am angry that Al Gore wants to take $300 million dollars and spend it on an AD CAMPAIGN when .0004% of that amount would equip an average home in FL (like mine, for example) to be COMPLETELY energy independent...
So, yes.. I am angry when Al Gore spouts off his platitudes and encourages people to do one thing and ONE THING only... Make Al Gore richer...
And I am angry that there are so many of what Lenin has termed, "Useful Idiots" that actually BUY INTO that crap...
Just call me Angry Michale...
Michale.....
Michale, why can't you get my name right? I have no problem getting yours right.
My apologies...
It was not intentional... I posted it from memory without bothering to check.
Again, my sincerest apologies.
Michale.....
Where do you get your estimates of $50 billion spent on studying global warming? Also, do you know we spend $12 billion a month in Iraq?
A Tale Of Two Houses
http://www.snopes.com/politics/bush/house.asp
Seems like President Bush has more on the ball, environmentally speaking, than Al Gore does..
Michale.....
Environmental groups had to sue the EPA to get federally mandated climate change studies published. The Bush white house was holding these studies up and blocking their publication, one of which spelled out the dangers of climate change to North America. So much for Bush being on the ball or even knowing where to find the ball.
And yet, Bush's home is the epitome of environmentalism and Gore's house is the epitome of waste, pollution and extravagance suitable to a con man par excellance...
It seems that, in the choice of homes, Bush walks the walk while Gore just talks the talk...
Strange how that is, eh???
Facts... Such an inconvenient truth, eh??
Michale....
I seem to remember reading that the creatures that feed on jellyfish and/or parasitize them, also reproduce faster in warm water especially when there's lots to eat...like jellyfish. Y'see, there are these things called "negative feedback loops" which, if one ignores will lead one to think that the worse case scenario is an inevitability.
I have no doubt that our environment is degraded due to human activity...but I seriously doubt that in a system as complex as the planet's that the almost straightline correlation between something real but minor like CO2 concentration and something as robust as the dynamic equilibrium of the earth's climate which reflects some very seriously huge factors is a relationship that IS significant...better to pay attention to soot and heavy metal in the air and on the ice...better to observe the shifting baseline of our ecology where fish populations are dwindling fast and coastal regions being transformed into unsustainable aquaculture and habitation for humans, to support our planet throttling populations.
But what exactly would someone have to see to know that global warming is not the threat many would have to believe? The return of the polar bear to its original habitat? Oddly, that would be from the entrance of the St. Lawrence to the Straits of Gibraltar. Bring back the animals which used to thrive in numbers not seen since the early 19th century, restore the ecosystem, regardless of where the thermometer sits, and we'll have a much better planet.
Very good points.
The fear-mongering Human Caused Global Warming hysterics would have everyone believe that ANY Global Warming is bad.
They conveniently ignore all the actual benefits that a little warming would bring...
Michale.....
Ask a geniune climate scientist what the "benefits" of a warming climate would be.
If you can't find one - then google "Permian Triassic Boundary" and "Great Dying"
Happy reading.
Reducing use of carbon based fuel for energy production will reduce soot and heavy metal output into the atmosphere and on ice.
@long333
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I have read in many places that people shouldn't read global warming into singualr events.
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And that has been the biggest problem that the Human Caused Global Warming fanatics have had.
They take single events and scream to high heaven that this event "PROVES" that Human Caused Global Warming is real.
And then, when REAL science looks into it, the public comes to find out that it's NOT a case of Human Caused Global Warming.. We find out that it's all part of the normal and natural course of nature..
This has happened time and time again..
Polar bears eating their own is PROOF of Human Caused Global Warming... REFUTED
Snows of Killamanjaroo melting is PROOF of Human Caused Global Warming... REFUTED
Greenland's glaciers are melting and that is PROOF of Human Caused Global Warming... REFUTED
Robins being spotted in Canda's Northwest Territories is PROOF of Human Caused Global Warming... REFUTED
And so on and so on and so on ad nasuem...
The Human Caused Global Warming theory isn't about science..
It's a POLITICAL issue. Pure and simple.
Michale.....
Polar bear populations are diminishing amd many mothers are losing weight to a point they may not be able to birth. Greenland's glaciers are melting. Mountaintop glaciers around the world are melting. Pine beetles and other pests are destroying Canadian forests in great number due to the fact they can reproduce twice yearly, instead of once, with a longer summer and less severe winter. Sometime like eight of the last ten years have been the hottest on record.
But keep listening to Rush Limbaugh for your global warming facts. I am sure he will not steer you wrong.
@McGhamma
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Michale, what about 7,000,000,000 people taking a piss in the ocean at the same time?
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This is what passes for "science" amongst the hysterical Human Caused Global Warming types..
They want to change just ONE SIDE of the equal sign, and leave the OTHER side the same..
OK, you want to add 7 billion to one side of the equal sign, then we'll add an entire water planet the size of Jupiter on the OTHER side of the equal sign.
Still no discernable effect...
How can you have Global WARMING when the Earth's climate has been COOLING the last decade???
Michale.....
Michale, there are 7,000,000,000 people on one side of the equation. A water planet the size of Jupiter is something that you just made up. But that pretty much sums up the denier arguement, when faced with the facts, you just make things up. And why can't I ask you a simple question without you going off the deep end? Why are you so angry?
Are you crazy?
Also, "Eleven of the last twelve years (1995-2006) rank among the
twelve warmest years in the instrumental record of global surface
temperature (since 1850)."
http://www.ipcc.ch/pdf/assessment-report/ar4/syr/ar4_syr.pdf
That little tidbit has already been debunked. It was based on "cooked" data..
Anything coming out of the IPCC is not scientific data.. It's political BS...
Michale.....
@realpolitic
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"There has been a very slight cooling, but not anything really significant,"
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Ahhhh I see.. So when there is a very slight warming, it's the end of the world...
When there is very slight cooling it's "not anything really significant"...
Gotcha... {wink, wink}
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It's also possible that some of the heat has gone even deeper into the ocean....
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I'll let THIS utterly moronic statement stand on it's own merit.. Or, in this case, lack thereof...
Michale.....
It's called a La Nina Michale. A well known phenomena that circulates cooler waters to the surface of the pacific ocean. It only makes sense that warmer waters circulate to the lower depths. El Ninos do the opposite. And the air temps are strongly affected by the surface temps of the oceans. So the strong El Nino in 97-98, coupled with the strong La Nina that recently occurred, resulted in the net cooling we've seen over the last decade. Take out those two factors, and there's been a net warming. At least thats how I understand it.
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It only makes sense that warmer waters circulate to the lower depths
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Really?? Explain that theory to me.. Because I have always been taught that heat rises and doesn't sink..
As an avid SCUBA diver I can also assure you that the deeper you go, the COLDER it gets.
But, by all means. Explain to me what universe you live in that allows heat to sink instead of rise...
As to the rest of your comment. So, you are saying that the Earth's climate is correcting itself with the La Nina phenomena, right??
Well, if the Earth has self-correcting climate, do we really want to start fracking around with things we know very little about??
Regardless of all that, the simple fact is, the Earth's Climate has been cooling for the last decade...
So, how can Global WARMING be a problem, if the Earth has been COOLING???
Michale.....
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