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Lawrence O'Donnell

Posted: December 17, 2008 01:50 PM

Moynihan Endorses Caroline


Liz Moynihan, the widow of Daniel Patrick Moynihan, began working in New York politics in the 1950s. On election night in 1960, when the Moynihans were living in Syracuse, Bobby Kennedy called her to get a report on how things looked in upstate New York. When Bobby hung up the phone, he turned to his brother and told him he was going to be the next president of the United States. As the Moynihan re-election campaign manager in 1988, Liz gave me my start in politics when she asked me to be part of the very small campaign team she assembled on her way to winning a record-setting victory. Liz's strategy won 61 out of 62 counties, including counties that had been unwinnable for the likes of FDR and Bobby Kennedy when they ran in New York.

Liz spent everyday of her husband's 24 years in the Senate advising him on politics and governing. To the most powerful senator New York has ever had, no one's advice was more important than Liz's. Pat Moynihan was a graduate of New York City public schools, but throughout his senate career, he and Liz were residents of upstate New York. Hillary Clinton's first public appearance as a candidate for senate was at the Moynihan upstate home -- the only time Liz allowed their home to be used for a political event -- where Pat Moynihan formally endorsed his successor and assured voters statewide that she was up to the job.

No one in New York politics knows more about the state than Liz Moynihan. No New Yorker knows more about how to do the job of senator than Liz does, especially after living through the day-to-day duties of Pat Moynihan's years as chairman of two committees including Finance, the senate's most important committee. And no one else can tell us what Pat Moynihan would think about who should be the next person to take his old seat in the Senate. Liz Moynihan has just released this statement about Caroline Kennedy:

Caroline is a very intelligent, serious person with a long interest in government and the Constitution. As a US Senator she could be a great help to New York. I'm sure Pat would be thrilled to see her in that seat.
Liz Moynihan, the widow of Daniel Patrick Moynihan, began working in New York politics in the 1950s. On election night in 1960, when the Moynihans were living in Syracuse, Bobby Kennedy called her to...
Liz Moynihan, the widow of Daniel Patrick Moynihan, began working in New York politics in the 1950s. On election night in 1960, when the Moynihans were living in Syracuse, Bobby Kennedy called her to...
 
 
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01:49 PM on 01/03/2009
Mr O'Donnell Im interested in working with you on the STATEN ISLAND PROJECT. I've lived on Staten Island since '81 and I do a local tv talk show here for 15 years. I know every nook and cranny of this island. Happy New Year to you and yours and hope to hear from you soon. Some of my interviews can be viewed at youtube.com/deejaymillz2008
08:15 PM on 12/21/2008
Are we becoming a country ruled by a few powerful political families?
05:25 PM on 12/22/2008
Absolutely.

She is only in consideration because of her last name, money and family connections. No one with her resume (non-practicing attorney, co-author of a few books, charity board member, part-time volunteer on behalf of NY public schools) would be considered otherwise.

But perhaps all those people talking about the cost of reelection have a point. Perhaps only the very wealthy and people with relatives in government can win the senate seat in New York. Caroline Kennedy never raised money for anyone who wasn't a family member, and I doubt her friends would either.

The New York senate seat, may not be available to anyone but the wealthy. Maybe all the press releases and Kennedy sycophants are right and best the common people can hope for is a relatively sympathetic plutocrat.

Hillary sold the "Obama can't raise the money and can't win the general election line" and in NY it worked. So maybe the same line works for the NY senate seat. But I'm not giving them any of my time or money. I don't do volunteer work to further line the pockets of the wealthy and further aggrandize the famous. If the senate is going to be bought by someone, they can buy it themselves.
01:50 PM on 12/21/2008
Who cares what Liz Moynihan thinks. Her late husband helped to block health care reform. There would be many more healthy Americans if it weren't for him.
11:10 AM on 12/21/2008
Mr O'Donell, I loved your put-down of the MSNBC twit who used Rep Peter King (R) NY as an example of some "independent" criticism of Ms Kennedy.

Mark Whitacker is pushing the MSNBC staff further to the right.
09:56 AM on 12/21/2008
IMHO: Liz Moynihan is about as qualified on New York politics and on being an effective U.S. senator.... as Satchel Paige would be (qualified) on the subject of pitching the fastball. And its been said that Satchel Paige could hurl a lambchop past a wolf.
08:58 AM on 12/21/2008
Political dynasties are a terrible way to run democracy. I'll stipulate that she's as qualified as many other sitting senators and that she could probably do a reasonable job. But, there are many others in the state of New York who are qualified and are not connected to anyone but ordinary people. What disqualifies her is that her appointment would strengthen the idea of special rights to an office that should have no preference.

And as far as invoking the Moynihan name, well that just drives my point a little deeper. Why should the opinion of someone related to a past senator matter more than anyone else's?
08:42 AM on 12/21/2008
For Leftcoast Larry, at least George Bush had to run for office. In Texas he ran and won against a very popular Dem Governor, Ann Richards. The other Bushes (and Kennedys) in office ran campaigns and got elected to office. Sure famous names and families help in elections, but the public gets to decide.
10:03 AM on 12/21/2008
A lot of good Georgies "experience" did. In addition, he wasn't elected president. He was appointed by the SCOTUS after they stopped the Florida recount. And in 2004, massive election fraud in Ohio swung the election to Bush. In those cases, the public did not get to decide. The last eight years show what happens when the will of the people is subverted. Bottom line: are you sure you really want to go there?
11:12 AM on 12/21/2008
Yeah, the five blind umpires did help Shrub steal home, after, as Ann Richards said, he thought he was on third because of hitting a triple, instead of being born there.
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Fernando
My Micro-bio is empty? Really?
06:37 PM on 12/21/2008
The argument was not about experience, the argument was about running and winning office. And even here the example of Bush is particularly poignant because he did get to the White House by using his family's influence. The same type of Old Boys club that CK is lobbying to get a senate seat. Let her run for office in New York, let her clean the South Bronx like Ferrer did, let her fight the mafia in court, let her clean the NYC's disastrous public school system (from the inside) then come back and be counted.

Right now, she is asking for a high appointment while having no elected experience, from a governor who was himself NOT elected and has a lot to prove, after an election that was supposed to signify change and a departure from political royalty. I like her personally, but the mere fact that she can't see this gives me even more pause.
07:47 AM on 12/21/2008
All this talk about aristocracy and cronyism and family connections makes me smile.
Where was the righteous indignation when the Bush Crime Family anointed Georgie heir apparent to the White House?
The bleatings now suggest to me an ulterior motive. Could it be just so much more Kennedy bashing?
Remember, the right-wing-lunatic-fringe rarely speaks directly to an issue. They look to talking points that might have a better chance of sticking than what they are really thinking.
05:12 AM on 12/21/2008
So you're telling us the widow of a dead senator claims her late husband would endorse the daughter of a dead president to fill his seat.
Maybe we should replace elections with channeling.
03:43 PM on 12/21/2008
Maybe hire Nancy Reagan's clairvoyant.
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mjc
Avoid printing any..
07:29 PM on 12/19/2008
As much as you revere Liz Moynihan and her knowledge of New York politics, she is and will never be the "expert" her husband was. Caroline has been revealed to be not much interested in New York politics yesterday in the piece that said and was confirmed she had missed a few elections in this State. Politics apparently only count if YOU are running. If she cannot get herself out to vote in a fairly simple election, what is she interested in?/
07:03 AM on 12/21/2008
mjc

Did you support Hillary or Obama in the primaries?

Caroline is not the lightweight-dilletante she is be depicted as. Just a very different personality than we are use to seeing in our politicians.

CTEveryman
05:55 PM on 12/19/2008
I guess I would agree that she would make a great senator, it's her pedigree.
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writ this down
03:11 PM on 12/19/2008
This very brief recommendation speaks volumes
05:36 PM on 12/19/2008
This very brief recommendation sounds like a courtesy letter written by a father's friend for a college application.

The lack of specifics speaks volumes. What are Caroline's accomplishments? Passing the bar? - thousands in New York have done the same. Coauthoring a few books? Take a look at amazon, and you'll see this isn't unique either.

This appointment is about aristocracy and cronyism. It's an insult to those who believe in hard work and achievement.
10:12 AM on 12/19/2008
Why not write more of your own observations of her work? I have a sense that she has a serious work ethic despite her wealth. I believe she is committed to preserving the best of our
culture and history, with a particular interestr in education and constitutional rights.
Prove me right! Let me know what you know.
See you in your travels.
Ann Rhoads
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12:29 AM on 12/19/2008
Wish Ms. Moynihan had given us a paragraph on Robert Kennedy Jr., someone more conspicuously active on issues of public concern.
01:11 AM on 12/19/2008
The child asked for a reference letter, she wrote a reference letter. That's what you do for your friends' kids.
11:28 PM on 12/18/2008
What is it about the American psyche which seems to be missing and desperately seems to need a divinne right of kings function? What has Caroline Kennedy done politically? Nothing, which is not surprising, but if I hear one more seemingly normal American begin to spout off about "noble birthright" of "It's in her blood" then I am truly going tp throw up. What happened to the concept of Democracy? Caroline Kennedy is no Hillary Clinton, and I wish that Hillary was staying in the Senate. However, there are more competent people around than Kennedy, so why isn'ty the news discussing then too?
It seems so suspicious, that out of nowhere, Kennedy supported Obama. Now that Hillary might be SOS, it seems even weirder that Kennedy is ready to step into Hillary's position. This is too weird, but I can hardly wait to hear what her answer will be to Charles' Gibsons, "What do you think of the Bush doctrine?" There never was a Camelot, there won't ever be one, so can we just get some experienced people working in the government. Caroline Kennedy... the next head of FEMA? Oh the storm clouds are gathering.
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08:44 AM on 12/21/2008
WHAT HAS HILLARY ACCOMPLISHED?
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My Micro-bio is empty? Really?
06:45 PM on 12/21/2008
How about RUNNING for office and getting ELECTED?