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Leo Hindery, Jr.

Leo Hindery, Jr.

Posted: July 20, 2010 09:30 AM

Obama vs. 'Big Business': There's an Alternative

What's Your Reaction:

Ivan Seidenberg, chairman of the Business Roundtable, which is the association of chief executives of many of the largest U.S. corporations, recently criticized President Obama and his administration for "creating an increasingly hostile environment for investment and job creation." (Mr. Seidenberg, whom I know well and greatly admire, is the chief executive of Verizon Communications.)

In what has been described as one of the sharpest breaks ever between 'big business' executives and a White House, Seidenberg cited as major problems non-completion and ratification of the pending Korea, Colombia and Panama free trade agreements (FTAs) and the efforts in the financial reform bill to tighten rules on derivatives trading and give shareholders a greater say in choosing company directors. The Roundtable also wants a U.S. corporate tax structure that 'better promotes the competitiveness of U.S. corporations in the global marketplace', which for it simply means no changes in the tax deferral provisions that have been so rewarding to its multinational members.

The Roundtable was immediately joined in this critique by the Business Council, the group chiefly comprising the nation's major multinational manufacturing companies, and later by the U.S. Chamber of Commerce. Tom Donahue, who runs the Chamber, opined that President Obama is following "a pro-union agenda which is burying U.S. businesses in a new generation of regulations and that Washington's trajectory is creating more uncertainty for businesses that will mean more job destruction."

I couldn't disagree more with all three organizations.

Pretty obviously, their expressed desire for 'government to remove itself from the private sector' is only a slightly veiled demand for (1) more (not less) laissez faire regulation, (2) more (not fewer) individual tax policies that favor the wealthy, (3) unlimited (not regulated) derivatives trading such as almost destroyed the U.S. and global economies, (4) diminished (not enhanced) shareholder rights, and (5) more (not fewer) job-sucking FTAs of the sort that Ross Perot first had the courage to identify when NAFTA was being shoved down the throats of American workers.

Much more important to the administration than these self-serving criticisms from the 'Big Business Three' should be the Washington Post/ABC News poll published last Tuesday that found that 54 percent of respondents disapproved of the President's handling of the economy while only 43 percent approved. Sixty-two percent of respondents thought the country as a whole is going in the wrong direction, while only 29 precent had a positive feeling.

Even though the President's chief spokesman says the administration never worries about polls, it had better be worried about this one, since "It's (more than ever) the economy, stupid!"

In life -- and notably in politics -- your virtues are often made most clear by your opponents. If the Roundtable, Council and Chamber had demanded these things of me as the price of cooperation on the job creation front, then I would have felt that "my work here was finished." But obviously not the Obama White House.

The administration hears these demands and instead it immediately asks, "What can we possibly do to get back into your good graces?" This despite the fact that the administration's tepid jobs and trade initiatives to date can hardly be considered draconian or harsh. (It was, after all, the private sector's irresponsibility in many cases, plus ineffective or missing regulation, that together brought us this damnable Great Recession!)

Even though Obama's political advisor David Axelrod set the perfect tone when he said, "We want to continue to work closely with business, but working closely doesn't mean that we...simply turn away from the kinds of corrective measures that are necessary to prevent disasters from happening again," the Obama administration has now embarked on a widely reported 'charm offensive' to woo back big business's support.

Frankly, we would be much better served if the administration set about creating harmony with the business community by orchestrating clearer -- and more certain -- pathways to a resuscitated economy and a more fully employed workforce.

In past recessions, CEOs eventually created out of their own courage and convictions the certainty, and confidence, they needed to move their companies forward. The Great Recession of 2007 is so "Great", however -- and the task of quickly creating 22 million new jobs so daunting -- that this time it's going to take certainty of the sort that only large-scale Keynesian-type government intervention in sustained job creation can generate. With CEOs in America already spooked about energy reform, financial reform that still has so many underlying regulations unsettled, and globalization run amok (especially our trading with China), they are not otherwise going to start hiring in meaningful amounts and investing the staggering $2 trillion in cash reserves which, in the aggregate, they have accumulated.

If the Obama administration really wants to help businesses of all sizes, then there are a host of policy initiatives, from one end of the economic spectrum to the other, which the White House should embrace and advance through to adoption, all intended to level the global playing field and immediately boost American businesses and jobs.

It seems odd to say this at this late date, but first and foremost the administration needs to acknowledge the sheer magnitude of real unemployment in the country -- it's 29.7 million out-of-work Americans, not 14.6 million, and it's 18.5 percent of total workers, not 9.5 percent -- and it needs to stop saying, as it did again just last week, that it hopes this summer's "infrastructure boomlet" will be effective enough to help achieve the goal of having "saved or created" 3.5 million jobs by the end of this year. There is no such category as "jobs saved," and the only relevant number is the 22 million new jobs we are missing today and need to create in order to have full real employment.

The 'full employment and high individual consumption model' that America adopted after World War II has been completely wiped out by the greatest income inequality since 1928 and by decades of stagnant real incomes for most wage-earners -- as Martin Wolf just identified in the Financial Times, of every $1.00 of real income growth that was generated in the past thirty years, 58 cents went to the top 1 percent of households. In response, one way or another President Obama needs to be the alchemist behind a new grand bargain between true Progressives, who are committed to creating those millions of new jobs and oppose slashing the programs that millions of Americans now depend on more than ever, and Conservatives, who seem to almost always support big business and always favor lower corporate and payroll (and individual) taxes.

Progressives need to concede that a good economic and tax system, with readily apparent certainty, is one that encourages investment, growth and jobs, not one that intrinsically soaks the rich and punishes corporations. Conservatives, in turn, need to concede that additional government revenues need to be raised by taxes that least distort economic decision-making, such as a value-added-tax that at least 139 nations already have, which would more honestly meet the Roundtable's objective of a "U.S. corporate tax structure that better promotes the competitiveness of U.S. corporations in the global marketplace".

In the end, all that matters now -- for businesses and workers alike -- is restoring vibrancy to the middle class, and bringing back to all families and workers the American Dream of equal opportunity and fair employment. A vibrant American middle class growing from the bottom up has always been the very best thing for American business.

  • Policy-wise, this means creating jobs and spurring investments here at home, balancing our trade and the effects of globalization, and, over time, materially reducing the federal deficit.
  • Tactically, it means, for the Obama administration, no more muddled attempts at triangulation of the sort that leads to op-eds like the one in yesterday's Financial Times entitled "Obama has angered the centre by not disowning the left". There is no large "center" or middle -- rather, there are mostly only "progressives", "conservatives" and, most important right now, almost 30 million effectively unemployed women and men.

Using a pro football analogy, it's past time for the President to rethink his economic game plan, change some of his key players if need be, and call some audibles, lots and lots of audibles, until he finds most of those missing jobs and greatly reduces the plague of persistent income inequality.

Leo Hindery, Jr. is Chairman of the US Economy/Smart Globalization Initiative at the New America Foundation and a member of the Council on Foreign Relations. Currently an investor in media companies, he is the former CEO of Tele-Communications, Inc. (TCI), Liberty Media and their successor AT&T Broadband. He also serves on the Board of the Huffington Post Investigative Fund.


 
 
 
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11:09 AM on 07/30/2010
Leo Hindery's blog is one of realism and clarity. The true unemployment statistics, and the corporate-government (failed) partnership fostered by David Axelrod are front-and-center. As in any strategy, however, hope is a poor plan. Hope for a resurgent Middle Class America is not in the cards, though it should be continued to be voiced as LH does. What Leo, and others as Robert Reich, must recognize is that it will take a complete redefinition of Labor. Robert Samuelson just wrote "If Labor is cowed and Capital is cautious, the economy is in trouble." Labor is the prime principle in any future recovery. It must be realized that Labor is the true measure of a nation's wealth. But not Labor with an ignorant leadership that is as uneducated as Capitalist Wall Street,
With a reformed Value of Labor established, and a new Labor Standard that makes economic transfer units equitable and just, Money will be replaced with a new mechanism that can't be hoarded, misappropriated, manipulated, used on any black market, borrowers charged usurious interest rates and excessive fees, and the like. That will be the true Dawn of Abundance, and Jobs.
But Leo, Robert, and others likely know it will only occur after the Last and Greatest Nicholas Taleb
Black Swan of all. Even Nouriel Roubini, Jim Rogers, and Robert Schiller don't want to go public with their inner thoughts, but this Black Swan is the Elephant in the whole SocioEconomicPolitical
House (eco means house) today.
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09:13 AM on 07/22/2010
These thoughts from a relative in business.
Obama Admin has to stop telling us how many jobs he saved vs how many jobs he created through his policies.

I really don't know how things will change. The democrats and republicans are either not as bright as we would hope the leaders of the world should be or are puppits of other forces that want them to have consistent messages to get votes for even dumber political groups that need a formula to vote: such as christian, anti abortion, pro constitution (what ever that means), no spending on social programs except the 75% of the budget ? that we spend on Medicare and Medicaid, and social security, because cutting those is political suicide, being anti gay, pro Sarah palin or at least pro tea party, pro tax decrease, anti free trade because they are not playing fair, and pro immigration reform with walls, exportation, etc.
So how do we create jobs.
1. Increase manufacturing in USA
2. Discourage companies from leaving country by giving enough incentives
3. Make college more affordable and give competition to big schools who demand ridiculus tuition with no ability to secure employment for graduates
4. Link business with universities through federally supported internships that share the cost to train and secure jobs for students
5. Reduce debt by slashing defense, getting out of Aftghanistan and Iraq. Declare victory and go home
6. Put big money into major national infrastructure projects like coast to coast Maglev trains"
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BluestateGuyInTX
A Connecticut yankee in Emperor Bush's Town.
06:22 PM on 07/21/2010
The article states "Progressives need to concede that a good economic and tax system, with readily apparent certainty, is one that encourages investment, growth and jobs, not one that intrinsically soaks the rich and punishes corporations." and then goes on to suggest additional revenue sources are needed in the form of VATs. How do VATs address reversing the income inequality that the article recognizes undermines a consumer economy. Framing higher taxes as "soaking" and "punishment" instead a necessary backing off of a 3 decade redistribution of income upward is irresponsible. Unless the income redistribution upward is reversed and some measure of equality re-established we have no hope of reviving the prosperity of the 50s and 60s. The vast majority have no incentive to play nicely with the wealthy if they aren't going to be rewarded fairly for their effort. Expect that sooner or later the majority will catch on to the fact that class warfare has been happening in the US for over 30 years and it is time for some payback.
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stevendedalus3
03:12 PM on 07/21/2010
"it's 29.7 million out-of-work Americans, not 14.6 million, and it's 18.5 percent of total workers, not 9.5 percent"; this is simply indicative of a two-income era, along with an economy based primarily on non-essential service jobs, small businesses, and Wall Street's "best and brightest." I'm going to say the no-no phrase: an effective economy must spread the wealth around by better labor laws, shorter hours and core structural jobs.
01:59 PM on 07/21/2010
Whether it's a right-wing, neo-con religious theocracy, where Glenn Beck's the president, and Sean Hannity is the Attorney General, and Sarah Palin controls the State Religious Police, rounding up people for transfer to Guantanamo for waterboarding,

or a left-wing totalitarian communist dictatorship with Obama leading the way, and John Holdren deciding who to sterilize, and Kathleen Sebelious implementing State mandated dietary consumption and outlawing cigarettes, what we have to realize is this. It's all going to lead us to the same place if we continue to allow the corruption in Washington to go unchecked.

Meanwhile, the elitite bankers who own them all, and BOTH political parties, don't really care how we sort it all out. They just try and keep it from going nuclear and hurting all of their commodities and investments. In the end, they'll still be in ultimate control of the government no matter what form of government we have. They simply don't care. They'll be at the top of either scenario that plays out.
01:43 PM on 07/21/2010
I am just one lonely voice but I trust this administration to keep learning and to try to do the hard things thereby bringing the animus of the more entitled their way. I also trust the progressive community to keep evaluating and to continually propose their ideas. I trust the administration to keep pursuing coalitions wherever possible including the opposition at times. This is difficult and worthy of the long arch.
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maxwelldog
even if i don't go anywhere, I'll still be late.
12:35 PM on 07/21/2010
This is a very confusing article, and maybe I'm wading into some deep waters, and don't belong here.
But it seems like you're calling for less regulation?
Always a confusing statement, especially now, with the gulf all but poisoned by an unregulated company (that we give subsidies to???) and with the guy running in Wisconsin wanting to now drill for oil in the Great Lakes. When the EPA told british petroleum to stop using the dispersants they were using because of the toxicity involved, and british petroleum decided to continue using it, anyway...which sounds like we need MORE regulation with Sharper Teeth.
Or are the regulations you're speaking of the non-regulated throwing away of jobs and lives here in the United States of America, to start buying product (say the engineered drop down masks of passenger airplanes and the components that make it work) from Indonesia? There already is a lack of regulation.
Of course businesses want to pay less taxes.
They also want to diet by eating ice cream and cake while sitting around on the couch watching home shopping network (because they don't have commercials)...
(http://www.humortimes.com/durst1.htm)
Regulations like the highways? They have specific designs to conform with, and the car manufacturers are feeding on those, but...they were designed for the middle of the last century. It's time for some major overhauls, and obviously, big business isn't willing to enter into "TODAY".
They like business as usual.
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08:24 PM on 07/21/2010
I also found this article a little 'funny'. Like Hindery is a republican posing as a progressive to win them over.
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maxwelldog
even if i don't go anywhere, I'll still be late.
10:04 PM on 07/21/2010
So... I'm making sense, here?
These are points I write to the Whit House about.
I LOVE being able to do that.
These are just the "regulatory" end. I have some really mean things to say about our less than aware car manufacturers...but, I figured, I'm not actually a business major.

Maybe I should just keep my feet in my mouth?
Thanx for reading, though.
(Did you check out Durst's editorial? I think it's OK, if you promise to then come back to HuffPost afterwords. That guy is a riot!)
11:59 AM on 07/21/2010
Interesting that Progressive True Racist Collectivists, Barney Frank, the Dem Congress, et al, created the current economic problems with Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae, Obama has continued to fuel the uncertainty and now "Progressives" ride to the rescue and say we need more government spending because of the uncertainty they created.

Theodore Roosevelt and Woodrow Wilson, both Progrssives sowed the seeds of the the US depression and Franklin Roosevelt, another Progressive spent us into a deeper depression and was rescued by Capitalists patriots in the WW II effort. Did we learn nothing from our prior failures or the failures that have been documented over the past 50 years and the current failures of the collectivists. Even China says we need to stop spending. Now that is irony.
nothing2fear
They only call it Class War when we fight back.
01:34 PM on 07/21/2010
I am not sure just where you get your info or if your just a stooge for business (do you have something to do with banking?). But Woodrow Wilson sold us out with the Federal Reserve act (the banking industry had been pestering the nation for that control from our inception). And as in this last act of Clinton and the republicans under a Democratic president which created the demise of the Glass-Seagall act (the banking industry had been trying to get rid of this regulation from its inception) allowing everyone to play in the casino. Yes our government is bought and sold buy the Capitalist Patriots that made bank on the big one while real patriots merely lost their lives.

In the Great Depression the stock market worked on 100 to 1 margin, in this last go around the banks were given around $100 for every $1 they had, it seems to me that that is some kind of magic disintegration point. 100 mythical dollars for every real dollar. I was taught in our fine schools that it was the banks that started the landslide into the depression by calling in 30% of there loans and making margin calls. Hey if I am wrong educate me.
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gabemill
01:55 PM on 07/21/2010
In order to prevent history from repeating itself, one first needs to identify REAL history...you don't. Your attempt to revise reality with wingnut talking points is not helpful, factual, or historic.

http://www.thenation.com/article/36893/unjust-spoils
11:16 AM on 07/21/2010
I don't blame the Business Roundtable for trying to pressure the White House to help them get richer...such is capitalism. But, I'm tired of the whining and crying that President Obama is hostile to business....You know what...if they don't like it..get out...There are a ton of foreign countries and young, new, American start-ups that would love to take their place. Business will be more regulated and probably taxed more around the edges going forward. Period. Get over it. It is what it is. The Business Roundtable can change, innovate, and adapt...like me. The days of the old boys club is over...this is American capitalism at it's finest...the level playing field. They unapologetically ran this country into the ground so maybe now it's time to give someone else a chance...can't do any worse, really....
01:44 PM on 07/21/2010
Love the tone and content of your comment.
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JusticiaParaTodos
11:10 AM on 07/21/2010
Mr. Hindery, you have got to be kidding! Obama has been anything but hostile towards the corporate elite, in fact many would say that he has been pandering to them since becoming elected.

Now if the corporations want more control of the nation with absolutely NO accountability, well I'm afraid they are in for a fight! Already they own both houses in Congress. They are responsible for the depression that our nation is in,corporations are responsible for the deaths of 11 BP workers along with the destruction of the Louisiana wetlands and the Gulf of Mexico, corporations have been granted "personhood" by their lackeys on the Supreme Court, so what more could they possibly want?

No Mr. Hindery, President Obama has not been aggressive enough when it comes to the out of control corporations and most Americans know this! I am afraid unless he suddenly grows some, he will NOT be relected in 2012 and that will be his reward for being so "reconciliatory"!
11:28 AM on 07/21/2010
Aren't you being a bit myopic with regards to what caused this great recession? Yes, I too would put greedy Wall Street and unethical CEOs at the top of this list. But what about?

- The Fed that kept interest rates too low for too long
- Freddie/Fannie that lowered lending standards to unsustainable levels
- Banking regulators that didn’t do their job
- Rating agencies like Moody’s that rated garbage CDOs as AAA
- Mortgage brokers that misrepresented loan details and applicant information
- Prospective homeowners that lied about their income
- Households that used their home equity as an ATM
- The very large group of households that went on a spending orgy and lived beyond their means

There is an ethics and value crisis in this country but it is across the board.
12:17 PM on 07/21/2010
You actually have it wrong. It was a straight government program Freddie and Fannie that is at the root and continuing to cause the problem. Freddie and Fannie were created to increase home building and home ownership. The problem was the model that was the subject of the deriviatives. By creating these large pools of loans folks who did not understand the dynamics of a liquidating portfolio. Defaults began increasing in 2005. When the default rate hit 5% the bonds backed by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac had to be bought back by Wall Street. Mortgage underwriting has necessarily tightened and the owners of the portfolios are being supported by Fannie/Freddie purchase of foreclosed properties, just what the guranty's required.

A loan portfolio that is closed to new loans, the CDOs and MDOs become liquidating portfolios. The delinquency rate increases over time even in good ecomonic times. In this case the delinquency rate increase has been exacerbated by the unknowns of the mortgages that had no historical base to forecast a liquidation rate. Some homeowners sell and buy new homes, some sell and move to apartments. The fact is that 10 years into a 30 year portfolio delinquency will be higher. Any one who had ever worked in lending could have told these pinheads in DC or the economists who did the analysis that this would happen.. Oh, they did, just no one listened. Progressives to the rescue-NOT.
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GAYF
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10:46 AM on 07/21/2010
American "Big Business, including the financial sector, never remembered this as they systematically dismantled the advantages from the middle and working classes for the past 30 years. Logic, history and "common sense" could have told them that decimating the workforce meant decimating their customers. It isn't rocket science.

The master-slave mentality of only seeking the biggest bang for the buck ignores the cycle of work-to user. It isn't rocket science. They still do not grasp that simple concept. I call that ignorance, The Midas Complex.
12:24 PM on 07/21/2010
It was government plain and simple not "Bib Business". It was the Progressive True Racist Collectivists that has systematically dismantled the American workforce and they are still at it. Ever heard of the Offshore Drilling Moratorium. It doesn't affect the other eleven countries including China, Mexico and Thailand who are drilling in the Gulf.. Just the drilling under US license and those are the ones that employ US workers. Ever seen any of the steel mills that closed because their jobs were exported to foreign countries, how about TV manufacturers, electronics manufacturers, even customer service call centers, aircraft. All these industries originated in this country and the technology was primarily developed here. Even the technology used to build the newer and more efficient plants in foreign countries. It was and still is the Progressive True Racist Collectivsts who has done such damage to the middle class.
nothing2fear
They only call it Class War when we fight back.
01:15 PM on 07/21/2010
Just remember we have the best government money can by, thank you Supreme Court for making it even easier for them to buy.
09:35 AM on 07/21/2010
1. In "Socialist" Australia, immigrants are 26.5% of the workforce, taxation is higher than in America, and there's universal health care. The country has a 5.1% unemployment rate, didn't have a recession, and has 124 people per US dollar millionaire.

2. "Socialist" Germany has higher taxation than America, universal health care, a 7.7% unemployment rate, and 96 people per US dollar millionaire.

3. "Socialist" Switzerland has higher taxation than America, universal health care, a 3.9% unemployment rate, and 34 people per US dollar millionaire.

America has 107 people per US dollar millionaire and an unemployment rate of 9.5%.

So "socialist" Germany and Switzerland have more dollar millionaires per capita than America while all 3 "socialist" countries mentioned above have much lower unemployment rates than America.

Source: CIA World Factbook, The Economist magazine, and CapGemini World Wealth Report 2010.
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Imo Verit
12:42 PM on 07/21/2010
America is anti-socialist because of the corporate media scream machine. The idea that the rich must be coddled into investment is part and parcel of our propaganda training. The rich can and do boycott cities, states, and even whole regions to force labor and tax concessions. They can offshore production to the same effect. Clearly, it requires a national effort to prevent this sort of manipulation.
nothing2fear
They only call it Class War when we fight back.
12:44 PM on 07/21/2010
Seem to me the Capitalists have waged war on any society that did not bend to their ideals of laissez faire capitalism since the beginning. Any social program is destroyed from the inside by their political allies. I am sorry I see that free markets function in non-capitalist nations just fine maybe even better without the machinations of amoral corporations lobbying the legal system into oblivion. Even in a nation with no love of anything but"Capitalism" if you care about your people you find there to be a NEED for social programs in hard times.

I just want to say thanks for the heads up, it is fairly obvious that unbridled Capitalism is inevitably the most evil form of economy devised to date it is just lately that their greed has revealed just how ugly they are.
01:26 PM on 07/21/2010
I'm curious to what logic you use to delude yourself in order to avoid recognizing that capitalism/free markets have had the greatest impact on improving the collective standard of living ever in the history of mankind.
nothing2fear
They only call it Class War when we fight back.
09:21 AM on 07/21/2010
Does no one see how bizarre the behaviors of these politicians are, under Bush and then as Obama stepped into the presidential arena they toss a couple of trillion in debt to corporate welfare, and the boys that are too big to fail. But now that we are talking little people, people with kids and wives and husbands and mortgages, now that we are talking real people who cannot just toss another brick of bank note on the fire when their kids are cold and hungry. Now these specious talking manipulative politicians are worrying about the deficit. There isn't an honest man among them, each is so beholding and addicted to the flow of cash from corporate America that like a junky they sell US out to get their fix. They leave our borders open for illegal labor (and possibly terrorists) to just walk in and take jobs that could help a few of OUR people. They give those corporate bandits OUR cash after they damaged the nation with their financial machinations but they have made taking OUR jobs overseas as easy. Now taking those jobs should be a form of treason in this time of war because they gave away technology that WE Americans developed. In collusion they have take our money our jobs and our Tech and sold us out. laissez faire regulation is their goal, Calvin (laissez faire) Coolidge is alive and well in the USA
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10:47 AM on 07/21/2010
100% agreement.
12:42 PM on 07/21/2010
Calvin Coolidge's efforts kept this country out of the world wide depression of 1920. Franklin Roosevelts efforts droves us deeper into the depression of 29 with uncontolled govenrment spending and higher taxes. Under Roosevelt the top bracket went form 25% to 80% in 1940 and 94% by 1945.
nothing2fear
They only call it Class War when we fight back.
01:08 PM on 07/21/2010
Ya right
nothing2fear
They only call it Class War when we fight back.
01:11 PM on 07/21/2010
Regan took down Thomas Jefferson's picture from the walls of the white house and put up Calvin Coolidge's picture to replace it. While Jefferson was working for the people Coolidge went fishing
09:20 AM on 07/21/2010
It is the big Keynesian spending that is stopping the economy from recovering. It does nothing more than take capital from the private sector where it earns a return and spends it on consumption were capital is destroyed and returns are negative. This is not self sustaining, it is self defeating. All we end up with is a pile of debt that cannot be paid off because the productive capacity of the nation is diminished.

We need less consumption and more investment and production. The trade deficit represents consumption in excess of production as America buys products overseas for consumption. The only real long term solution to employment is to produce the things we consume here in America with products produced in America. Step two is to produce more products folk overseas want to buy.

The solution is simple. Kill the government's industrial policy designed to kill industrial production in America. This means deregulate manufacturing and reduce the permits required to start a business. One should not have to spend a year or more and millions of dollars on permits and environmental impact studies before a factory can be built and production can get started. Part two, end all the tax incentives to move jobs off shore, so the jobs stay here.
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12:43 PM on 07/21/2010
Right on and well said.
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MoreFreedom
08:22 AM on 07/21/2010
Keneysians like Hindery have learned nothing from history. The so called Keneysian multiplier is less than 1. Thus, government money spent actually reduces our wealth. It'd be better to reduce taxes and let people spend their money. Obama and his statist cohorts are making us poorer.
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keyhoti1
08:49 AM on 07/21/2010
You know nothing about Keynes, just what you read in the MSM, or whatever you choose to read, so as to maintain your position as a Libertarian, or whatever.

Reagan reduced taxes (for the rich) and started to get rid of regulation (finished off by Clinton and Bush).

How do you suppose that more of what you propose (the same as Reagan) will get us out of the mess those same proposals created?

Obviously you have learned nothing from history.
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GAYF
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10:53 AM on 07/21/2010
They never will. Libertarian-reactionary thinking denies, ignores and misinterprets history. This point of view views money-things-ownership-hoarders of artificial wealth (paper) as the lifeblood of a society. People, the environment, existing in cooperative harmony with the natural world is anathema to "thing thinkers."
11:07 AM on 07/21/2010
Please give me one example where the Keynes approach worked. And please don't bring up the Great Depression which was ended by WWII and the post production boom.