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China as Poster Boy for IP Protection?

Posted: 12/09/11 12:30 PM ET

In the middle of one of the most contentious debates in Congress about intellectual property in recent memory, the MPAA appears to have finally found an analogy that it believes will persuade skeptics to support slash-and-burn piracy bills now before Congress: Google in China.

On Thursday, Variety published an interview with MPAA chairman Chris Dodd, in which the former senator directly (and apparently favorably) compared the Internet filtering contemplated in two controversial U.S. anti-piracy bills to Chinese Internet censorship. Singling out Google's opposition to the bills, Dodd said, "When the Chinese told Google that they had to block sites or they couldn't do [business] in their country, they managed to figure out how to block sites." Really?

I want to give Dodd the benefit of the doubt, but it is hard to find a benign headline for his remarks. How about "MPAA to Google: 'You did it for China; now do it for Hollywood'"? Or "MPAA to Congress: 'If it's good enough for China, it should be good enough for the United States'"? This awkward moment of candor helps reveal the two bills -- PROTECT IP in the Senate and SOPA in the House -- for what they are. Far from being narrow efforts to take action against the worst of the worst infringers, they are an attempt to dramatically change U.S. Internet policy from a system that punishes illegal actors but favors openness, innovation, and free expression to a closed system that prefers distributed methods of control in the service of powerful interests. Such a shift would be devastating to the U.S. Internet industry and to free expression. Dodd seems to have forgotten the last chapter in the Google in China saga. Google eventually pulled out of China because of its filtering and blocking mandates and now redirects some of google.cn traffic to the uncensored google.com.hk.

Thankfully, a bipartisan group of senators and representatives have put another option on the table -- one that takes more careful aim at the real bad guys and adopts a follow-the-money approach to cutting off so-called "rogue" sites. There are a lot of new ideas in the bill that bear careful discussion, but one thing is clear: thoughtful legislators can find sensible ways to address piracy without following the lead of one of the world's most Internet-repressive countries.

 

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04:16 PM on 12/12/2011
What a wonderful model Red China! Why not Stalinist Russia or Nazi Germany?Piracy is not as big of a problem as a police state is. No?

Piracy will go on anyway Everything that can be seen or heard can be copied. No? It is more than insane to think otherwise.

The corporations asking for Congress to ruin the Internet are witless themselves. It is a new world and the cash flow and business models of the past are now history.

Think oral storytellers and the printing press. No way to salvage the old business model there. Think live music and recording, nope no way to salvage that either. Now it is recorded music's turn. Think stage plays and movies no way to save the stage as dominant.

I like storytelling and live music and stage plays but they are not dominant and no act of congress could make them so. Could it? Huh? Honestly?

Chris Dodo and his like are on the take from dying industries that would rather wreck the future than accept that there is not so much money in their line of work anymore.

The Internet is a miracle exactly because you can copy stuff. It is the miracle of the loaves and fishes where Jesus fed the multitudes with a few fish and loaves of bread. So Chis and company are like the Roman bureaucrats and soldiers eager to stop the miracle to preserve the status quo.
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TakeSake
The United States for All Americans
01:08 AM on 12/11/2011
Regarding China - at the government level, it clearly ignoring, if not actively involved in, the production and trade of counterfeit electronic parts. This is a danger as real as any other:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/chinese-counterfeit-parts-found-in-us-weapons/2011/11/07/gIQAQGh7wM_story.html

Parts and products from China used to be just both cheap and inexpensive - now they're counterfeit as well.
12:23 PM on 12/11/2011
Well priced Made in China was and is the biggest contributor to the high living standards in the West. It also kept costs from running out of hand in American manufacturing. IF Made in China is excluded from U.S. military goods production, the military budget would not only be $700 Billion (not counting the actual war expenses), but perhaps over a Trillion dollars.
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TakeSake
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10:38 PM on 12/11/2011
Actually, it's the biggest contributor to high unemployment, deficits, and anemic industrial production. Look again at the link - it's about electronic parts being counterfeited, faked - and making their way into electronic appliances, leading to failures and dangerous functionality.

This isn't capitalism, it isn't even business - it's state-supported industrial terrorism.
08:05 PM on 12/10/2011
It's hard to take lobbyists seriously. Sorry.
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08:18 AM on 12/10/2011
Well, according to these people, there ought to be three Internet TV-channels in your neighborhood, and you should have to stick up a tall antenna-mast with a rotator in order to receive them.

The recording industries (in their various incarnations) should seriously stop and think about just how much free advertising they're getting from product that it costs them next-to-nothing now to distribute. They should also pause to consider how much product they're transmitting out into the ether for anyone to pick up if they choose to. In other words: (a) how much does it actually cost you to carry out your business TODAY?, and (b) how much are you actually benefiting right now from this status quo that now you seek so earnestly to destroy?

What I'm saying is: "don't kill the goose that's laying the golden eggs for you."

Most of the "the sky is falling!!" arguments boil down to some theoretical measure of "how much money we could be making," which (when compared to the very tidy but nevertheless somewhat smaller sum that you ARE now making) can be trumped-up e.g. to Congress as "some incredible loss." The fallacy (and it is a huge one...) comes from not considering the true consequences of expecting your customers to live under these new rules you want to impose.

Buying .. anything, everything .. is always a voluntary decision. Don't screw it up.
08:11 PM on 12/09/2011
Irresponsibility is not freedom.

China does not have a sex addiction epidemic.

China does not have a .XXX domain either.

China does not have a population 70% infected with incurable STD (according to the CDC - HPV virus causes cancer, and of course genital herpes).

Sex crimes in China are 1/10th that in the U.S. on a per capita basis.

Mayhap there IS something to learn.
01:27 AM on 12/10/2011
No, there is nothing to learn from oppressive regimes who don't trust their people (not to confuse that with the actual people of China). I know the US is smarter than that, and you just can't kill that independent American spirit. It's always someone else who is irresponsible, isn't it? Why can't people just be responsible for their themselves? Besides, if other countries started copying China, China would not be so special.
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07:58 PM on 12/11/2011
The OP is just one of those pro-China ideologues who seems to not realize that a lot of the statistics cited have huge asterisks belonging next to them. Sex crimes? Even more commonly unreported than here is one that comes to mind.