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Lincoln Mitchell

Posted: November 25, 2009 09:12 AM

The KSM Trial And Republican Attacks

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The recent attacks on the decision by President Obama and Attorney General Holder to try Khalid Sheik Mohammed (KSM), one of the masterminds of the September 11th terrorist attacks, constitute one of those political moments where partisan sniping dominates everything else. For many Americans where KSM is tried is something of a non-issue a technicality that has little bearing on their lives, so long as justice is served. However, for many Republicans, none more so than former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani it is an opportunity to get some media attention and take a cheap shot at the president.

Giuliani has gotten more publicity in the last six weeks or so than he has since his ill-fated presidential campaign collapsed more than a year and a half ago. Most of that publicity was not due to his doing but to those of Giuliani's New York Yankees as they won their 27th World Championship. The former mayor was present at almost every home game sitting in seats in the new Yankee Stadium that most Yankee fans would love to have, even if it meant spending nine innings with America's erstwhile mayor. By vociferously attacking the Obama administration, Giuliani briefly made himself relevant again, albeit in a transparently silly and partisan way, accusing Holder and Obama of not taking the threat of terrorism seriously because they want to try KSM in a civilian court.

If it had been a Republican president who had called for KSM to be tried in New York, Giuliani almost certainly would have applauded the decision as giving New Yorkers a chance to host the trial of the man who sought to destroy their city. Moreover, if Obama had moved the trial out of New York on the grounds that a New York trial would give KSM a platform for his anti-American rhetoric, Giuliani and other Republicans would, not without reason, be lining up to accuse that president of cowardice and of lacking faith in America.

Other Republicans, most notably John Ashcroft, have suggested that trying KSM in New York is a security threat and that New Yorkers will fear another attack if KSM is tried in their city. This assertion is even more transparently a case of partisan sniping than Giuliani's comments. Imagine if a former Democratic Attorney General suggested that the trial should be moved because otherwise New Yorkers would fear another terrorist attack. Giuliani would almost certainly be the first, and loudest, to yell that New Yorkers are afraid of nobody and demand the opportunity to sentence KSM in New York. Comments like those of Giuliani and Ashcroft amount to little more than partisan bickering, but the more serious attacks on Holder's decision have been based on his choice of locale for the trial, but for his decision to try KSM in a civilian court.

The president's critics argue that if the War on Terrorism is truly a war, than people like KSM who are captured overseas should be tried in military tribunals rather than civilian courts. This argument is not altogether unreasonable, as a strong case can be made that people like KSM are enemy soldiers and should be tried as such. It is, however, worth remembering that the debate about the status of captured terrorist suspects did not begin with Obama. It was the Bush administration, specifically former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, who insisted that people like KSM were, in Rumsfeld's words, "(N)ot PoWs. They will not be determined to be PoWs." This decision was made so that the U.S. would not have to apply the rules laid out in the Geneva Conventions about the treatment of POWs to these terrorist suspects. Rumsfeld, and the Bush administration, settled on the awkward and legally ambiguous term "unlawful combatants" to describe the status of these people.

The Bush administration did not set a very good or clear precedent regarding treatment of captured terrorists like KSM; and the Obama administration has certainly not yet come up with a comprehensive solution to this dilemma. Holder's decision may be the best that can be done at this time, or it may be a mistake and a bad precedent. It is not, however, as Holder's critics suggest, a politically motivated move by the Attorney General or the administration. On the contrary, Holder has boxed himself into a no win situation here. If, for some reason, KSM is acquitted, many Americans will feel that justice was not served at that our government let a dangerous, and murderous, terrorist go free. If Holder, as is likely, gets a conviction and KSM receives either the death penalty or a very long prison sentence, the world will not, as some in the administration have suggested, look admiringly at the U.S. criminal justice system, but will assume that the fix was in before the trial even started.

 
 
 
 
 
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11:17 PM on 11/26/2009
During WW2 Operation Pastorius was planned by the German Govt and 8 Germans that had worked in the US (2 had US citizenship) were dropped off by UBoat in the US. It involved a 2 year plan to blow up bridges and industrial installations within the US. 2 of these gave up and confessed to their involvement in this scheme and the rest were caught. The Supreme Court turned down the defense attorneys request for a civilian trial and tried them by military commission. They were all sentenced to death, with the two who confessed given a commuted sentence. The 6 were put to death in the electric chair.

They were not given POW status and were treated as enemy combatants.

KSM should have been given a military trial. He offered, as did the others, a guilty plea. We now will spend millions if not tens of millions to try these, that by their own admission were guilty. Holder will most likely get the result that he expects, but with a political cost. Whatever the case, there is sufficient precedence to prosecute these men under a military tribunal and it has given the Republicans another bucket of ammo to throw at an administration that hardly needs one more thing to paint it as weak. I see it as one more political thing to juggle and continues to cost this administration public good will. Just look at the presidents RCP average of job approval.
08:14 PM on 11/25/2009
These people are part of a loose but organized world wide conspiracy that provides money, training and support. They aren't working for their country or islam or their tribe. They are doing the bidding of those appointed over them.

They are a military force and should have been considered POWs. Who cares about Rumsfeld. Obama is President now. And he is blowing it.

The attacks on the Pentagon and World Trade Center were symbolic as well as deadly and part of the world wide jihadist movement. You can't read combatants their rights in combat. And you don't give them the protections of american citizens.

Obama seems to have poor advisors. Holder is just the latest.
04:54 PM on 11/26/2009
You are missing a major legal point that is keeping Bush and republican leadership from war crimes prosecution. If KSM is a POW then Bush & Co are war criminals as KSM would be subject to Geneva Conventions POW protections.
03:44 PM on 11/25/2009
While some of the terrorists will be charged and tried in a military court I do not favor that whenever possible to try in a civilian court. None are actual members of the military and it gives their idealogy credence (in the anti-American world) that they are not terrorists they are viewed as actual warriors supported by a country instead of a whack job living in hiding. While I do not consider myself an especially brave person I do know that I am ashamed of the GOP whining and fear mongering. This is the party of "bring it on", "wanted dead or alive" but put their tootsies at the tinest of risks? Even if KSM with the use of a translator yells his beliefs at the top of his voice for days on end who is going to listen to him? Glenn Beck, sure he's a coward, O'Reilly, another one along with Rush -- when people use fear to get political advantage we look back in history and realize it is the GOP that is adopting the practices of Hitler.
11:29 PM on 11/26/2009
I'm sick of the Hitler/Nazi accusations regarding Dems or Republicans. It is silly and frankly inaccurate. Neither is planning to wipe out millions. One can argue, rightly, that they seek power but it is way off the mark to paint either this way. Both groups disdain the man and his legacy. This only hurts your arguments.
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01:12 PM on 11/25/2009
Mr. Mitchell you complaint about the politicization of this issue, well do you think the decision by Holder was not political? This trial regardless of its outcome offers him the opportunity to judge and penalize the previous administration. He has sacrifice the administration of justice for those families that lost loved ones in9/11 for a cheap political opportunity. Please explain to me how will they present evidence (Germany may withdraw evidence critical to the case since they oppose the death penalty), how will you address the lack of Miranda? How will you address the right to a "speedy trial"? and a million other questions of PROCEDURE that are important and can determine the course and outcome of a trial. When I heard Mr Holder say "that even if acquitted they would not be released here" It made me wonder how carefully he has considered the consequences. Mark my words if even one is acquitted that will be the end of the Obama administration and the Democratic party. America has not forgotten 9/11 and it was reborn in our psychic with the Fort Hood attack.
12:58 PM on 11/25/2009
"It was the Bush administration, specifically former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, who insisted that people like KSM were, in Rumsfeld's words, "(N)ot PoWs. They will not be determined to be PoWs." This decision was made so that the U.S. would not have to apply the rules laid out in the Geneva Conventions about the treatment of POWs to these terrorist suspects. Rumsfeld, and the Bush administration, settled on the awkward and legally ambiguous term "unlawful combatants" to describe the status of these people."

"Unlawful combatants" sounds like an appropriate term. The 9/11 attack was much more than a criminal act. Also, according to Part I (General Provisions) of the Third Geneva Convention, they are not POWs (they don't meet the required criteria).
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12:48 PM on 11/25/2009
The attack was not a military target it was a civilian target like wise i believe they should have trials for the USS Cole attackers and also the FT Hood attacker should have a trial in military court!
12:32 PM on 11/25/2009
So trying KSM as a civilian may be a mistake or bad precedent, he may be acquitted, and any conviction will be perceived as "fixed." And "a strong case can be made" for trying him in a military tribunal. It seems, then, that you concede that there is fair room for criticism of this decision. But yet you presume to know the motivations of those voicing that criticism. I'll concede that Giuliani may be motivated by politics, but Ashcroft? What exactly are his political ambitions?
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11:09 AM on 11/25/2009
The issue is not Khalid Sheik Mohammed or New York City, but our system of justice and the rule of law.

For too long, we've sacrificed our Constitution, laws and rights ostensibly to keep us safe and secure. What too many fail to realize is that our laws, Constitutional rights are precisely what have kept us safe and have served this nation well for over 2 centuries, even if not 100% perfect in all instances.

What many also fail to note is that if we suspend our laws, due process or system of justice for expediency, political ideology, or appeal to mob-fear-hatred mentality, then we will have become akin to those regimes we sought to overthrow, and forego our principles.

Do we have faith in our laws and system of justice, or not? If we do, then we need to allow the legal process to work. If not, then let's suspend them for anyone suspected or accused on heresay. Trials consume time, money and energy, but the alternative (not having them) is far worse.
01:02 PM on 11/25/2009
Military tribunals do not violate the Constitution. They've been used before under somewhat similar circumstances. The 9/11 conspirators are not like any other enemy the US has faced, so to a degree, we are sailing in unchartered waters. The use of military tribunals does not mean that the 9/11 conspirators won't have rights. They just won't have all the rights afforded in a civilian court. But that doesn't make it unconstitutional.
02:13 PM on 11/25/2009
Many of the constitutional rights we enjoy have been curtailed in time of war. Lincoln suspended habeas corpus. Very draconian restrictions were enacted in WWI. All were abandoned when the war was over. None of this has anything to do with how we treat KSM.
10:44 AM on 11/25/2009
Could the KSM trial be where the intended demolition of Bldgs. 4, 5 and 7
is exposed? Watch the video " 9-11 mysteries" - if you can get a copy.
Very tight proof of Administration involvement.
10:25 AM on 11/25/2009
Why are some terrorists tried in a Military Tribunal and these few are being tried in Federal court? Is there a sound reason or is this political grand-standing by Holder?
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10:05 AM on 11/25/2009
Never before have i read so much interest in one mans trial for a political party that had no concern over Bin Laden when Bush was invading Iraq this is surprising to see so much interest in KSM's well being. The excuses of why the United States should not be a country of law is astonishing you would think that a terrorist that planned the attack on 9/11 would warrant justice. I wish the GOP would come clean and really tell Americans why they show so much doubt about our legal system and why the concern about what KSM will say?
09:47 AM on 11/28/2009
"I wish the GOP would come clean and really tell Americans why they show so much doubt about our legal system and why the concern about what KSM will say?"

They have, and some of those same concerns were raised here in this very thread (due process questions, etc). You can ignore these concerns or try to make it a political issue like holder, at the expense of true justice for victims of 9/11 as well as prosecution of the war on terror. Trying someone captured in war as a civillian doesn't make any sense, or at least it shouldn't, regardless of which party you happen to ascribe.