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Posted: October 19, 2009 10:53 AM

Ted Turner Would Fire Lou Dobbs

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Ted Turner would fire Lou Dobbs. How do I know? Because Ted Turner said so:

This excerpt from Ted Turner's April 1, 2008 interview on PBS, in which the visionary founder of CNN tells Charlie Rose he would fire Lou Dobbs, bears repeating:

Rose: Lou Dobbs used to be a friend of yours.
Turner: He's still a friend of mine.
Rose: Yeah.
Turner: But I think he's kinda flipped out. I wouldn't ... Tom Johnson and I wouldn't let him do this when he was working at CNN. He just had to do the financial news straight, you know, and not fill it up with his opinions about who he hates and doesn't like the Mexicans and immigration.
Rose: So what would you do if you were running CNN today?
Turner: I'd call him in and chew him out.
Rose: You'd say either you tow the line or you can't work here?
Turner: That's exactly right.
Rose: That's what you'd do?
Turner: That's what we did before.
Rose: With him [Dobbs]?
Turner: Yeah.
Rose: Yeah.

The full one hour DVD of this Charlie Rose/Ted Turner interview was provided to me in the summer of 2008 by Phillip Evans, Vice President and Chief Communications Officer of Turner Enterprises. I've been monitoring Dobbs for years, TEVOing his shows and observing his worsening narcissism. Dobbs is an anomaly on CNN in how he operates more in service to himself than in service to CNN. He stands apart from the network's other anchors in his rabid ideological rage and megalomaniacal self-promotion. Wolf Blitzer may be a drama-seeking nudge with annoying subject-ridden phraseology, but one could hardly imagine Blitzer tagging himself Mr. Independent and reading only admiring emails on-air, including demands that he run for President.

Right now the speculation is that Dobbs will be moving to Fox, on the heels of his ilk, Glenn Beck and John Stossel. That may be true, but the question I and others continue to ask is why Jonathan Klein, President of CNN/US, has kept Dobbs employed for this long -- considering Dobbs' vengeful attacks on Latinos, Latino organizations, ACORN, the Southern Poverty Law Center, and more.

I've sought this answer from CNN on several occasions. I've also asked CNN's response, and Lou Dobbs' response, to why Dobbs wasn't included in post debate and post event analyses during the 2008 Presidential campaign as part of CNN's self-anointed "best political team on television"? Dobbs did make one or two appearances, but the disharmony between Dobbs and the rest of "the team" was palpable. During one post-debate event, Donna Brazile figuratively wiped the floor with Dobbs, chastising him and telling him he "wasn't her beau," which left Dobbs crimson and toothily bemused. Brazile handily won one for "the team."

On April 7, 2009, I shared a few email exchanges and phone calls with Carolyn Disbrow, Senior Publicist for Turner Broadcasting, in which I asked the following Lou Dobbs question:

Why isn't Mr. Dobbs included in analyses along with other CNN anchors who do joint/group analyses under the heading of "the best political team on television" after major media/political events (i.e., presidential press conferences, etc.)? Mr. Dobbs made a few pre-election appearances with his colleagues -- and then no more.

Ms. Disbrow responded with the following email:

Lou is one of CNN's top anchors. In addition to his nightly show on CNN, his visibility has increased in the last year with a daily rebroadcast on HLN, live election specials on HLN, and commentary on CNN.com". From a CNN spokesperson.

When I asked Disbrow why the need for an anonymous spokesperson for such a non-response to my question, she obliged by saying I could use her name. Hence, I am. This benign exchange was more than I ever got from Dobbs' office which refused my phone requests for interviews and answers to simple questions.

Still the person I've most wanted to speak with regarding Lou Dobbs has always been Ted Turner. It was Turner who brought Dobbs to CNN in 1980 at the suggestion of Sam Zelman, then executive in charge of on-air hires for the launch of the new cable network. I knew Dobbs and Turner had endured a long friendship. I believed Turner would be appalled by Dobbs' unmitigated bias and viciousness toward specific ethnic groups, and toward the United Nations to which Turner was a billion dollar donor. Though I didn't speak directly to Turner who was then out of the country, Phillip Evans, his Communications Director, couldn't have been more helpful. He was so eager to share Turner's Charlie Rose interview that he messengered the DVD overnight.

Here's another clip from that Charlie Rose interview where Turner discusses Dobbs' bigotry toward Latinos and Dobb's potential to ignite violence. Please note that this interview was conducted in April, 2008 during the Presidency of George W. Bush, whose administration Turner refers to in the clip:

If Jonathan Klein were as responsible an executive as Ted Turner, and as conscientious a citizen as Ted Turner, he would be as concerned as Ted Turner about the danger of Lou Dobbs. But Klein has been both derelict and impotent in his refusal to address Dobbs' disparagements which devalue CNN. Ted Turner would quash them.

Here's an exchange last year between Dobbs and Ted Turner when Turner appeared on Dobbs' show.

In Ted Turner's autobiography, Call Me Ted, he speaks of his inspired philosophy and vision for his revolutionary Cable News Network. Ted says:

Although I hadn't watched much television news, I did have some strong opinions about what I wanted CNN to be. While the networks and local news stations seemed to follow an "if it bleeds, it leads" rule, centering their broadcasts on murders, car wrecks, disasters, and the like, I wanted us to do more serious journalism and to go deeper into the more important issues of the day. I also wanted to present the news in an unbiased fashion. At that time, some of the evening anchors, including Walter Cronkite, were injecting their own opinions into the telecasts and I didn't like it. [Reese] Schonfeld and I decided that on CNN, news would be the star, not our on-air people.

Those who value journalism would value Ted Turner's vision. One would hope Jonathan Klein would also value that vision. But if Jonathan Klein did value that vision, Lou Dobbs would already be gone. Dobbs violates two of Turner's tenets: he is biased and he presumes himself the star.


And the result of Dobbs The Star: CNN is now tarnished and Klein and Dobbs are both to blame.

 

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blueknight41
12:51 PM on 10/20/2009
at least teddy knows you tell the news and keep your opions out of it
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worldsam
10:59 PM on 10/19/2009
Dobbs peddled stocks before xenophobia.
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Vinca
06:47 AM on 10/20/2009
How can you say Lou Dobbs doesn't like Mexicans, when he's married to one? Don't you get it, he believes in LEGAL imigration, not people crossing our borders , unchecked for diseases, criminals, etc. He also believes companies shoud use E-VERIFY, so as to know if they are hiring legal citizens. I feel ILLEGAL entrants into US should not displace American citizens for jobs.
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alexunlv
I shall not waste my days trying to prolong them.
05:06 PM on 10/20/2009
You are spewing his political talking points. Your problem, like Dobbs, is not about "displacing American citizens." Your problem is with Latinos, or as Ted rightly put it....hate of Mexicans. Dobbs poisonous rhetoric is veiled in the idea of law abiding citizenry. Using your logic, you assume all laws are just. Get a clue, this man is spewing hatred.
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Ed and Deb Shapiro
08:26 PM on 10/19/2009
Nerdy Dobbs has become like Rude Rush Limbaugh, Looney Glen Dreck, Sicko Sarah Pathetic and Michele Frankenstein.

Good for Ted Turner for putting him in his place and letting him know he would pull him in.

I would throw him out....

who agrees with me?

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Vielfalt Uber Alles
05:16 PM on 10/20/2009
Not me. It must have taken a long time to come up with that extremely clever name-calling. Ted Turner is a billionaire globalist who pretends that he cares about the little guy when nothing could be further from the truth. I have yet to hear any racist comments from Dobbs attacking any particular ethnicity or race. He is one of the few commentators with the courage to even bring up the subject. For that he is called a hatemonger and racist when it is not deserved. He has a Hispanic wife and Hispanic children. That doesn't really help the argument that he dislikes Hispanics. The majority of the public wants the borders closed and illegal immigration stopped. It is just elites from both parties pushing this internationalist agenda to destroy borders and usher in one world government.
05:37 PM on 10/20/2009
I do. Ted is spot on. Lou is just a grumpy old white man.
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07:55 PM on 10/19/2009
I like Lou Dobbs because he stands for something. Illegal immigrants are illegal, period. Because he is so adamant about it is f fine with me, and I"m not racist. I grew up with hispanics in Albuquerque, NM in the 50's and 60's and some were my best freinds.
I have nothing against hispanics what-so-ever, but I want them to come legally, learn english so I don't have to dial 1 every time I call a business. In years gone by, immgrants went through due process, learned enough english to simulate, and followed the laws. That is not the case anymore. NOw they demand rights they don't deserve.
Mr Independent has lost my respect due to this ego trip of late, but I still like him, and he does bring to light many things about the economy, business, and political maneuvering that others overlook. For that I still consider him worthy.
CNN made a big error when they let Aaron Brown go a few years ago. CNN has truly lost their "trusted" status with the group they have now. All fluff, whining, and much ado about nothing. Guess I'll just start watching Keith Oberman from now on. He makes sense.
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alexunlv
I shall not waste my days trying to prolong them.
04:57 PM on 10/20/2009
I guess it was also fine with you when Jim Crow laws were in place? You were a law abiding citizen weren't you? Of course you would NEVER break a law like all those civil rights activist engaging in illegal activities.....after all...their conduct was illegal.

Sure you are not a racist buddy. I honestly believe you are not. You are just poorly informed and usurp the trash Dobbs spews. You need to think for yourself. Although this sounds harsh, I say this because of statements such as "They demand rights they don't deserve."

That is ill-informed political talking points with no real substance. Have you ever given any thought to the reasoning behind the "press two for Spanish." This is not a matter of a group of peoples refusing to adapt...but rather a continuous influx of people with a similar language, hence like a revolving door. This is not your typical one time migration many other groups have experienced....Germans, Irish, Poles, Italians, Cubans in American history. Those are real issuges to discuss, not this nonsense...."they want rights they don't deserve." And please don't trash the idea of immigration, keep in mind this Country was built by immigrants.
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06:05 PM on 10/20/2009
Wow. Accusing someone else of using talking points and then going through every talking point in the book that the open borders people use, that is a perfect example of hypocrisy. Maybe you should think for yourself sometime. Since the open borders crowd has extremely lame arguments to defend the notion that letting in the entire third world and giving them all the social services they want is a great thing, they resort to accusations of racism. I challenge you to site any evidence that Lou has ever said anything that specifically attacks minorities just because they are minorities. You can't because it doesn't exist. He challenges the elites from both parties who want to continue the nonsense because it provides cheap labor for business while at the same time driving down living wages for Americans because the supply of labor has been increased exponentially. How can anyone argue that when unemployment is at 10% and rising that we need more immigrants in the country to continue taking American jobs? There are an estimated 8 million illegal immigrants currently employed in the U.S. when 7 million Americans have lost their jobs in the last year. Not very fair huh? So before you yourself start spewing ethnocentric open borders talking points maybe you should think for yourself for a change.
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02:12 AM on 10/21/2009
If you go to most any other country, you have no rights what-so-ever.. Friends of mine have gone to Mexico and Panama to retire. Panama is welcoming, but Mexico, you have to show income 15 x's that of their citizens in high paying jobs. And forget medical benefits in Mexico, or SS benefits, unemployment. If you have a baby there, the baby can stay but you can't. and if you land in jail, plan on not getting out.
Go to Dubai,and you have to leave the country within a month after loosing your job or you will be jailed and your belongings confiscated.
Yes, we welcome immigrants in this country--that's what makes this country great. But do it like everyone before us had to do it., and most of my hispanic friends agree100%. That's what most of their families had to do, other than ones there when New Mexico became a state.
I've marched in Civil Rights marches since the 60's, stood up for inequalities for minorities, so don't give me that crap about Crow. Grow up. Illegal immigration is just that--illegal. Can you imagine if everyone broke the law because they didn't like it? Everyone would be in jail! We have laws for a reason, even though everyone looked the other way for cheap labor. Now California is crashing under debt from social services and schooling for it. And they do get benefits they are not entitled to unless they were here legally.
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OldHick
05:22 PM on 10/19/2009
Ted is not dead. But he may still be influenced by the Fondu movement.

I believe he and Ted think alike, and their concern about the drop in national standards is truly heartfelt.
Even though Ted gave amazing amts of money to the UN, I believe he thought it was a mistake after he did it, and it probably was, and Lou would have told him so.

Lou talks straight and Ted admires this. They also want to keep their audience, and I believe Lou does this in spades, but it does sometimes impact on his advertisers. That is the price you pay, to keep your new better than CBS, NBC, and ABC. I believe Ted believes in news as a public service, and would like to have more of this, rather than less.
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Solja
05:53 PM on 10/19/2009
Lou "talks straight"? He spews big0try, which is altogether different from reporting facts.
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alieninvader
08:44 PM on 10/19/2009
Reading Ted Turner's mind is a very special gift. Did that gift also tell you how to become a billionaire?
03:55 PM on 10/19/2009
CNN was once THE star in delivering the news. Remember the opening hours of the first Gulf war? But in recent years, the network has truly lost its way. It has divorced itself of professional, qualified journalists who kept their politics to themselves. It now features big mouths and preeners.
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LMPE
I connect the most dissimilar things
02:58 PM on 10/19/2009
How did Ted Turner ever lose control of CNN in the first place?
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ECB
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03:03 PM on 10/19/2009
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Linda Milazzo
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03:24 PM on 10/19/2009
Hi LMPE -

Ted Turner's 2008 autobiography, "Call Me Ted," spells this out in detail. He's a very candid man, and in my opinion, a hero for his dedication to eradicating nuclear weapons. If you're interested, his book is an honest and fascinating read. :-))
02:19 PM on 10/19/2009
CNN's problem is its weak management which can provide no proper direction or leadership. No wonder Faux News is now a serious contender.
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Solja
11:44 PM on 11/11/2009
Faux can never be called "serious" in anything.