Apparently, these people think they can realize Plato's Republic, but they're a most unlikely bunch of philosopher-kings. I mean - James Inhofe?
Imagine a presidential candidate who believed that God wanted him to run for president because American needed him. Picture a secretive group of Washington insiders who meet quietly to mix religion, class and politics and who believe in an elite group of people divinely ordained to run the country and the world. Now envision this group meeting in sex-segregated cells to discuss how God has chosen them to fulfill their roles in public life. And, at the helm of this group, picture a figure described by an admirer as a "guy in the smoky back room" who "sits in the corner, and you see the cigar, and you see the flame, and you hear his voice -- but you never see his face" whose followers have made "a fetish of being invisible." Now imagine that a few of the members of this group outside of the U.S. have included "General Suharto of Indonesia; Honduran general and death squad organizer Gustavo Alvarez Martinez; a Deutsche Bank official disgraced by financial ties to Hitler; and dictator Siad Barre of Somalia, plus a list of other generals and dictators."
For those of you who think you're reading about George W. Bush and his administration, you'd be mistaken, though members of the Bush administration do belong to the sect described. The presidential candidate is Hillary Clinton, and the group is "The Foundation" also known as "The Family." Its leader is Doug Coe, a man described by Clinton as "a unique presence in Washington: a genuinely loving spiritual mentor and guide to anyone, regardless of party or faith, who wants to deepen his or her relationship with God." Yes, it's true, according to Kathryn Joyce and Jeff Sharlet who published an article in Mother Jones magazine in September 2007 about Hillary Clinton's deepening ties to the group.
According to Mother Jones, Clinton has been meeting regularly with The Foundation's women's bible study groups since 1993 and moving up through its ranks. Clinton herself has written in Living History about Coe and her first encounter with him at The Foundation's estate and how deeply he impressed her. According to one of Mother Jones' sources, a Coe supporter, Clinton "has become a regular visitor to Coe's Arlington, Virginia, headquarters, a former convent where Coe provides members of Congress with sex-segregated housing and spiritual guidance." The article goes on to report that "These days, Clinton has graduated from the political wives' group into what may be Coe's most elite cell, the weekly Senate Prayer Breakfast." But, despite the words she has written about Coe and the reports of her deepening involvement with the Fellowship, Clinton has refused requests by the press for interviews about Coe and her membership in The Fellowship. But clearly, she is not as scrupulous about her association with religious figures in her life as she claimed when attacking Barack Obama for remaining in Pastor Jeremiah Wright's congregation.
Others who have been involved with the group have broken the code of silence. Sharlet himself, whose book "The Family: The Secret Fundamentalism at the Heart of American Power," based on six years of research and tens of thousands of documents which is due out in May, went to live with one of the cells of The Foundation and describes the inner workings and ideology of the organization in an article that appeared in Harper's magazine in March of 2003. He writes that The Family is "in its own words, an "invisible" association, though its membership has always consisted mostly of public men. Senators Don Nickles (R., Okla.), Charles Grassley (R., Iowa), Pete Domenici (R., N. Mex.), John Ensign (R., Nev.), James Inhofe (R., Okla.), Bill Nelson (D., Fla.), and Conrad Burns (R., Mont.) are referred to as "members," as are Representatives Jim DeMint (R., S.C.), Frank Wolf (R., Va.), Joseph Pitts (R., Pa.), Zach Wamp (R., Tenn.), and Bart Stupak (D., Mich.). Regular prayer groups have met in the Pentagon and at the Department of Defense, and the Family has traditionally fostered strong ties with businessmen in the oil and aerospace industries. The Family maintains a closely guarded database of its associates, but it issues no cards, collects no official dues. Members are asked not to speak about the group or its activities." Is this why Hillary Clinton has refused requests for interviews about her association with The Family?
What happened to the time when the Democratic Party stood its ground and upheld the separation of Church and State enshrined in the Constitution? And why is a candidate who courts the support of feminists following a male-dominated religious group that separates the sexes? Perhaps this affiliation explains her co-sponsorship (with Rick Santorum) of the Workplace Religious Freedom Act, which troubled even some Republicans, because the bill protect those refusing to perform the essence of their jobs, like, for instance, pharmacists who won't fill birth control prescriptions or doctors who won't refer patients to other doctors to obtain legal abortions. Perhaps this affiliation is why the Clinton campaign, which has declared itself to be ready to throw the "kitchen sink" at Barack Obama to win the nomination, has been uncharacteristically quiet during the recent media feeding frenzy surrounding the recording of Obama's pastor's controversial and offensive speech. Clearly, this affiliation is deeply troubling, and is a personal failing on the part of Senator Clinton and raises the question "What happened to Hillary Clinton?"
It also raises the question "What happened to the press?" We have endured almost eight years of an administration, led by a man who has claimed that he was anointed by God to be president, which has stuffed its ranks with graduates of fourth tier religiously-affiliated colleges and law schools, and led the nation into a conflict it seems to view as a holy war. It is therefore truly astonishing that another candidate for president could completely escape scrutiny by the mainstream media for a longstanding relationship with a religious group such as The Fellowship. Google searches reveal little about the Foundation, and almost nothing about Clinton's association with the group. Despite the long-standing relationship and the clear number of witnesses to her presence at these meetings since 1993, the press has not investigated or informed the public about it. Perhaps her recently (if reluctantly) released First Lady schedule could shed some light on the amount of time she has spent meeting with members of this group. Certainly, reporters could find others who could shed some light on Clinton's role within The Foundation. The issue of Hillary Clinton's affiliation with the group should be the jumping-off point for investigative journalism and a vigorous public debate on the topic of the insidious creep of religion extremism into American politics. If Americans are to be informed citizens, they need the press to do their job. And once this issue receives the coverage it deserves, Americans should mobilize to protect the Constitution and prevent the hijacking of American government by any religious group.
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Apparently, these people think they can realize Plato's Republic, but they're a most unlikely bunch of philosopher-kings. I mean - James Inhofe?
I have read the connecting articles about the Family and its right leanings. I have also read a lot of the fear that comes from Wright's 30 second sound bites. I don't know much about McCain's faith, but it is something he won't wear on his sleeve.
Mother Jones quotes:
"The Fellowship believes that the elite win power by the will of God, who uses them for his purposes. Its mission is to help the powerful understand their role in God's plan."
"The Fellowship isn't out to turn liberals into conservatives; rather, it convinces politicians they can transcend left and right with an ecumenical faith that rises above politics. Only the faith is always evangelical, and the politics always move rightward."
"redefines social justice issues in terms of conservative morality, such as an anti-human-trafficking law that withheld funding from groups working on the sex trade if they didn't condemn prostitution in the proper terms."
"concerns that the measure would protect those refusing to perform key aspects of their jobs"say, pharmacists who won't fill birth control prescriptions, or police officers who won't guard abortion clinics."
"common ground"the kind of faith-based politics that, under the right circumstances, will permit majority morality to trump individual rights. The libertarian Cato Institute recently observed that Clinton is "adding the paternalistic agenda of the religious right to her old-fashioned liberal paternalism."
Is the argument that Obama, McCain, and Clinton should submit their religious beliefs to scrutiny so voters can be aware of how their mentors influence their political convictions? To what end?
Are we worried that each believer is going to begin proselytizing for the church they belong to or the religious associations they keep?
Is religion as US policy the fear? Does the argument go: If we embrace the Christian label and wrap our arms around Jesus, then we will wind up getting into a holy war with Islam like the Crusades?
My thought is if we are worried about that let's talk it about straight forwardly. If we keep this code up about a shadowy organization, Christian and proselytizing without getting to the substance (ie. you are making Christian drones candidates), then we have a dishonest debate. If the right did not accept Mitt Romney because he was a Mormon and the left is scared that Barack Obama is a secret Muslim plant or he is a raving Christian black nationalist-separatist/that Hillary Clinton is bound to dictator embracing, bible toting evangelism who want to cleanse of us of all our sins, then America has an extraordinary underbelly of distrust and misunderstanding.
We need to open ourselves up to the Bill of Rights and explore our concerns about the unknown other. Religious conviction is not bad in and of itself. Ignorance of how religious conviction directs a policy makers' decisions is.
You imply that candidates should NOT "submit their religious beliefs to scrutiny so voters can be aware of how their mentors influence their political convictions." And you ask: To what end?
But you answer that question in your own last sentence. Or have I misconstrued you?
In any case, I don't think proselytyzing is an issue. These guys are more interested in excluding the hoi polloi than they are in recruiting.
You've come to a lot of conclusions based on very little evidence. Whom are you referring to in your first sentence? You suppose one thing and then you continue to write as if it's true. No where in your article do you say what is so terrible about this group, except that it has some questionable people in it.
I've got a better one for you. Why don't you write about how the Clintons supposedly murdered all those people. That would be more interesting.
If people are really interested in who they are really getting to run for office, apply the same research and scrutiny of the "grooming" and well choreoghraphed lifes of all 3 candidates. From Hillary/Bill and Yale to their Bankers guided tour into the Whitehouse, to McCain and his whole Fascist and Big Bankers (remember the Keating 5) facilitated career, and now the crowning shadow government achievement of Barack Obama. Obama Sr, at 23, a muslim, and already married attending University in Hawaii from Kenya on a prgram developed in the intelligence agencies and think tanks to incorporate other types into the ranks outside of the normal ivy league rich families goes to Harvard "economics" (Ford Foundation), ( and picks up another wife there) and then back to Kenya as a stooge for the American Financial/MIC interests in the Finance Ministry. Obama's Mother then meets Muslim Lolo Soetoro,an officer in the TNI, who assists in the American backed Installation of SUHARTO. (the largest massacre in CIA History of 500,000 and then "works" for an American Oil Company! MS. Dunham Obama Soetoro works to establish Muslim Sharia Micro financing throughout "asia", inclufing as a "'consultant" in PAKISTAN. Obama learns his skills as a political science major (Occidental College) to learn to publicly speak (University of Chicago lecturer) and most importantly to learn how to organize a constituency. Michelle Obama is an attorney for the huge Sidley Austin Law Firm and cut a very contoversial deal with Hillary's Rose Law firm.
Somewhere in there I think you have some valid points. I only wish you had expressed them coherently. May I respectfully suggest that next time you take a few deep breaths, type slowly, and read over what you've typed before you click "post"? No offense intended. Seriously.
Besides all the other innuendo you try to achieve in your post with your false adjectives, you are also obviously completely ignorant about micro financing. There is no such thing as 'Muslim Sharia Micro financing'. Perhaps if you were interested in educating yourself on the subject, you would read something about it. One suggestion would be the book, "Microfinance Revolution Volume 2: Lessons from Indonesia":
The first country to develop profitable microfinance on a large scale, Indonesia is home to the world"s oldest and largest commercial microfinance institutions, as well as many others.
The book examines many financial institutions, with a special emphasis on Bank Rakyat Indonesia"s microbanking system, which in the mid-1980s was transformed from a failed subsidized credit program to a nationwide commercial financial intermediary that now profitably provides microfinance services"savings and credit"to more than 20 million people. Commercial microbanking remained stable and profitable in Indonesia even as the country's financial system collapsed during the recent crisis. This volume shows why, and offers crucial lessons for developing countries everywhere.
Your reference years are late. The Ford Foundation began along with the CIA brainchild, "Iinternational Studies Degree program and through a heartily pursued economic program, beginning in the fifties to replace dutch colonialism with American Colonialism. They worked hand in glove throughout the sixties, recruited and exploited the elitists families, who then organized students to literally take up arms against the unions of the people of Indonesia (PKI). The Ford Foundation, Princeton, Cornell, Harvard, Berkeley, as well as others also taught (still do) developed economic programs to foster (profiled) these graduate students into foreign governments and Foreign service/Aid institutions and also into American Corporations overseas operation to provide gateways for American Corporations to exploit the target countries resources, including forced or near slave wage labor of indiginous peoples. Search is easy: CIA on Campus. CIA in Indonesia 1965. Today many banks, including Citibank, operate in other countries under Muslim law of not charging interest! They are "fee based" partnership contracts. The microloan programs I refer to comply with that. This system is what makes it mirror a mobster organization when it is corrupted, like the TNI in Indonesia did under American backed Suharto.
Kool Aid anyone?? I've got grape, lemon and fruit punch...........
Why would anyone believe the tripe you've written. Mind you I'm not defending Clinton nor am I for Obama. The point is that our system of elections leave a lot to be desired. When you come right down to it we don't have much to choose from. At least I know that Bush/Cheney's days are numbered and I hope that by then we'll still have a country left.
Was that supposed to constitute a rebuttal?
It isn't just her, it's many journalists over the years. Their time is coming to an end however, because of mass media, internet and inability to keep secrets these days....thank "god."
Members all white? Elites only ones to be in power? I hate to say what this sounds like to me! Same game, different name....now THAT is scary!
Was THAT supposed to constitute a rebuttal?
WOW! Look at the company Hillary keeps "Senators Don Nickles (R., Okla.), Charles Grassley (R., Iowa), Pete Domenici (R., N. Mex.), John Ensign (R., Nev.), James Inhofe (R., Okla.), Bill Nelson (D., Fla.), and Conrad Burns (R., Mont.) are referred to as "members," as are Representatives Jim DeMint (R., S.C.), Frank Wolf (R., Va.), Joseph Pitts (R., Pa.), Zach Wamp (R., Tenn.), and Bart Stupak (D., Mich.)."
Who knew Hillary's a right wing ultraconservative republican masqurading as a democrat. Should have known - once a Goldwater Girl - always a Goldwater Girl.
No wonder Hillary is staying in this race. Bet McCain promised to appoint her to the Supreme Court if she'd just stay in and wear Sen. Obama down and get him to spend his money fighting her so he wouldn't be able to fight McCain in the fall. No wonder McCain isn't worried about fundraising.
You can email CNN a request to look into "the family."
http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form11b.html?2
Ordinarily, this might not set off any alarms for me, because separation of church and state is so fundamental, i've always taken it for granted. But given what's happened under Bush, along with Hillary's refusal to sign a pledge to restore the Constitution after the beating it's taken under this administration ... oh yes, this gives me pause ....
See also:
Hillary's Minister Problem
http://thecurrent.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/03/clinton-fellowship.php
Thanks for the link. Verrrrry interesting!
Its mission and purpose are disturbingly too similar to the ideology of the people close with Bush administration. The pattern emerging parallel what we have in the WH currently. More of the same it seems.
"... The Fellowship believes that the elite win power by the will of God, who uses them for his purposes. Its mission is to help the powerful understand their role in God's plan." ....
"When Clinton first came to Washington in 1993, ... For the next eight years, she regularly met with a Christian "cell" whose members included Susan Baker, wife of Bush consigliere James Baker; Joanne Kemp, wife of conservative icon Jack Kemp; Eileen Bakke, wife of Dennis Bakke, a leader in the anti-union Christian management movement; and Grace Nelson, the wife of Senator Bill Nelson, a conservative Florida Democrat."
Clinton declined our requests for an interview about her faith,
http://prorev.com/2007/12/hillary-clinton-heavy-into-rightwing.html
http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2007/09/hillarys-prayer-2.html
Lots more information here:
"They believe that, in mass societies, it's only the elites who matter, the political leaders who can build God's "dominion" on earth. Insofar as The Family has a consistent philosophy, it's all about power--cultivating it, building it and networking it together into ever-stronger units, or "cells." "We work with power where we can," Doug Coe has said, and "build new power where we can't."
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20080331/ehrenreich
Wow! Yet another shill for Jeff Sharlet.
Listen, Tootsie, when Doug Coe is photographed shrieking "God damn America!" and accuses our government of inventing AIDS so that blacks would catch it, and writing fulsome words of adoration for Louis Farrakahn, whose hatred of Jews has made him infamous for decades, maybe somebody will pay attention to you and your slurp job book buddies.
For now, all this talk just seems like a clumsy, and naive ploy to take some of the heat off Mister Wonderful, who got caught lying yet again, this time about his relationship with this horrible person.
As far as I'm concerned, this will be a fun book to review, because of its appeal to half-baked conspiracy theorists.
My country right or wrong?
The Iraq war isn't Damnable?
The slaughter of the native Americans wasn't damnable?
You haven't even watched the whole sermon have you?
You're right , of course, but why do you bother replying to this noise?
"The Family" is way scarier than Pastor Wright, and the "Workplace Religious Freedom Act" is a threat to the freedom of every one of us. How big a step is it from "I won't dispense birth control" to "I won't dispense antibiotics to people not of my faith." or "I won't dispense life-saving medicine to those who speak out against my master." ?
Could you enlighten me about what Rev. Wright said that isn't true, or might not be plausible?
We need a president to say things like this again. { except for the last sentence }
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAvHHTt2czU
First Amendment
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances."
-- First Amendment, The Constitution of the United States
"The House of Representatives Gives preference to one religion and a blatant disregard any other religion or for people with no religion }
(1) recognizes the Christian faith as one of the great religions of the world;
(2) expresses continued support for Christians in the United States and worldwide;
(3) acknowledges the international religious and historical importance of Christmas and the Christian faith;
(4) acknowledges and supports the role played by Christians and Christianity in the founding of the United States and in the formation of the western civilization;
(5) rejects bigotry and persecution directed against Christians, both in the United States and worldwide; and
(6) expresses its deepest respect to American Christians and Christians throughout the world."
This country is being destroyed by religion. Our laws about separation are being broken like driving 55. It is not the bush administration. It is the religious administrations that are destroying this country. The bush administrations practices discrimination through religion and religious laws. Look into it !
The bush administration is in clear violation of the first amendment over and over again by giving preference to religious groups but mostly one religion. It is my understanding that religious groups are legally allowed to discriminate based on religion and are given federal money and power to do so in hiring and in day to day operations. Laws are being created which clearly favor and discriminate based on religion. Further more if you do not practice a religion you are forced to participate in religious rituals or stand aside and whiteness the event while being identified as a target of persecution. Existing laws designed to protect against religious persecution of the non religious are being ignored.
Is there any way to start a class action law suite? I think there has been substantial damage.
NO MORE RELIGIOUS LAWS
I wish there was finaly someone I would want to vote for . . . instead of against.
This is some story. I want to hear more.
Why? Are you having trouble falling asleep?
FLAGGED: HILLARY SHILL
This story should give you insomnia.
Can you please list all the members of the Foundation, especially the females. I can't imagine Hillary being segregated into her own private room. Of course we know how Skull & Bones members Kerry and Bush have been able to secret their bloodthirsty appetites. And while you are busy getting that list out for me please consider if this is not payback for the Rev. Wright affair (which there is actual tape, which did not come from Clinton camp). Maybe you can step back for one moment before you go into this motion like an illicit sex act and gather your morals and say no to another absurd conspiracy theory.
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The Mother Jones article was way before this- Sept 2007. I personally am so sick of being force fed religion. I strongly believe in the separation of church and state. Bush and his holy war delusion is so scary in that - there is no reasoning with him.
The point here I think is that the press was all over the Rev Wright story but this story has been kicking around since September and ---zip? I think this is an important conversation to have about religion since this country was founded to escape religious persecution. I think the Rev Wright story got so much press because he was black. He was a "scary black militant" when Haggee, Parsley, Robertson and Haggard have said things even more controversial and nobody even blinks. All have frequented the White House- so it all adds up to quite the double standard. (Acutally Rev Wright was a guest of the Clintons in their administration)
I think when we finally see Hillary's tax returns and Clinton Library donations we will see some connections to the Foundation. I see this group is really Right Wing.
Hillary is really a Republican. I wish she would leave the Democratic Party. Her values, like Lieberman are clearly more Republican.
Posted March 26, 2008 | 10:39 AM (EST)