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Obama, Woods, Racism and Me

Posted: 12/17/09 04:05 PM ET

In this spot was a post I wrote a few weeks ago which talked about Obama (and the failure of good health care reform) and Woods (right after his debacle was revealed) as heroes who had been fallen by pride.

Many people saw this as offensive and racist, although many, again, did not, and completely understood where I was coming from. But because the post took on a horrible viral life of its own and I was, as the saying goes, denounced from pulpit to pew, I decided to remove it. It is, as is the internet's wont, available in other places. I will not repost it here.
What I will post here is a variation on my response to Mike Barber's piece of January 4 which again took me to task:

You are right that I should have apologized. I have been thinking about how to write something that would incorporate an apology and begin a new discussion, but I let it sit too long. I do apologize to you and others for offending you.

I am glad, however, that I happened on this article by accident; it might have been nice to alert me to it so that I could respond, as I am doing here.

Yes, I took the piece down. It was clearly stoking fires I did not wish to stoke and the comments were degenerating into personal attacks on me and my writing (as happens frequently on the 'net, especially under the easy clock of anonymity) See my article on same here :http://blogcritics.org/scitech/article/the-painful-art-of-blogging/

However to, in your tags, linking me with the KKK, is the height of hyperbole and one good reason that a national dialogue about race, which Eric Holder called for last year, may be a long time coming.

We clearly need that dialogue even if it makes the majority of Americans uncomfortable (as evidenced by reaction to Holder's call). Americans would like to THINK they live in a post-racial society, but we are not even close. Incidents of anti-Semtism, misogyny, racial prejudice, sexual orientation prejudice and every other kind of prejudice one can think of, still plague our country.

As a Jew I have been subjected to a huge amount of anti-Semitism and I would like to think I understand discrimination a little. I don't see myself as a victim and never have; I do put down a lot of it to sheer ignorance and misguided assumptions. My experience with anti-Semitism means that I am much more than a white woman of privilege, as some have decided to describe me.

But I, in no way, wished to speak for black people in America, and did not presume to do so in my article. I was trying to talk about role models--and as America in general idolizes sports figures, it was not an idle assumption. In addition, Woods had received praise for his mentorship.

Putting Woods and Obama in the same post was ill-advised. Obama is a different kind of role model and rightly so. A majority of our country--including progressives, the young, and first-time voters-- put him in office and as such have a right to be disappointed, as I am, in his leadership. That has nothing to do with his being black: it has to do with our expectations born out of his promises. And using the word "hubris" was certainly not meant to signify uppity-ness, as some have claimed. In fact, a Washington Post editorialist used the same word to describe Obama just last week. I stand by my statement that the president's sense of himself does not jibe with what he is doing for the people who elected him.

Right now, criticizing Obama has become a polarizing issue: those who wish to hold his feet to the fire are fighting against those who wish to support him, no matter what his decisions are. ( I have written about this before: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lisa-solod-warren/dear-president-obama-with_b_162588.html ) It is a difficult time for both the President and the country. I sincerely believe that many of those who are disappointed in him do not wish to say so out of a white guilt. That's another reason for a dialogue on race.

Assuming, as many have done, that because I say I am not a racist, I therefore must be, is illogical at best. It is akin to being sure that someone who protests that they are not crazy therefore must be insane. And because I wrote an article that many people took as racist does not mean I am so... and further investigation into my writing on both race and class might have proved that:

Postmortem: Morning, Not Mourning, in America
The Measure of a Man
Character, Assassinated
Campaign Journal: The Randomness of the American Dream

Instead, some one reader found one review of my book, Desire, which was somewhat equivocal, and dismissed me completely as a writer.

Mr. Barber's assertion that he tried to reach out to me by tweets gives even more credence to the idea that Twitter is set up to allow a free exchange of ideas between people: much too much to expect of media that allows a mere 140 characters. I do not sit on my twitter account 24-7 and I had no idea the article had even gone viral, I had no idea why people were following me until hours had passed, and I also did not tweet the article myself. He assumes that I did not care about how my article was seen, which is not true at all. His description of my defenses illustrates to me, a woman bewildered and genuinely confounded by some of the reactions to the post. Under attack, I tried to protest but each protest was met with more attacks. It is hard to start a conversation that way, which is why I chose to back off and sit tight for awhile, rather than keep the "conversation" going.

That the article took on a life of its own, an unintended life to be sure, is unfortunate. That it provoked comments about both me and my skill as a writer was unnecessary. But that the article was found offensive by many is accurate and, again, for that I apologize.

Clearly, we are not the post-racial society that many seem to think we are and many more wish we were. And there is much more to say about race in America--and people from all races need to say it--but this comment is not the place. I will try and write more soon. But, suffice it to say that I heard you, Mr. Barber, and I heard all the others.

 

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In this spot was a post I wrote a few weeks ago which talked about Obama (and the failure of good health care reform) and Woods (right after his debacle was revealed) as heroes who had been fallen by ...
In this spot was a post I wrote a few weeks ago which talked about Obama (and the failure of good health care reform) and Woods (right after his debacle was revealed) as heroes who had been fallen by ...
 
 
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Lisa Solod Warren
09:47 PM on 01/05/2010
As the original comments were left up even when the article was deleted, it is nearly impossible to know which are new. If anyone would like to read the above post and talk about that, I am glad to listen. I said what I had to say above and offered links to other articles so that people could try and make intelligent decisions as to my racism and my writing. If no one wishes to do so then let the apology for the mistake of lumping the two of them together stand. And let my criticisms of President Obama's policies so far stand, too.

PS As for him being a black role model? Do not tell me he isn't. Black students all over America were shown saying that they could now be president; saying they felt proud; black high school students stating how empowered they felt. If he isn't a role model to every African-American in the US, he sure is for a lot of them.
09:59 AM on 01/06/2010
Greetings Lisa,

Thanks for posting a response! Due to the confusion you mention from old posts being retained, and character limit issues, I posted a reply in the comments section of the original post at http://www.race-talk.org/?p=1587

I hope we can continue a dialogue on this.

Mike Barber
12:16 PM on 12/21/2009
I am totally appalled by this article. First of all, I get so tired of Caucasian-Americans feeling that they can speak for African-Americans as to our disappointments in "Black" role models. Tiger Woods had an affair. He is human. We as African-Americans are not disappointed in him because of his affair. He is not the only man to have an affair. I believe there were more African-Americans that were disappointed with him stating he was "Caublasian" than his affair. Even now when you say Tiger being Caublasian, some don't see it as insult to injury, but his ability to embrace all of his heritage. President Barack Obama has not reneged on anything. If you believe that it is because you wanted him to be a superhero and fix all the damage overnight. Bush drove the country into the ground for 8 years, and yet want President Obama to be a miracle worker. We are not a child with a broken toy asking mommy or daddy to fix it. It took time for us to get in this mess and will take time for us to get out of it. Furthermore. Maybe we should look at the RESPECT factor. He is the President and people are still just writing and talking about him as Barack Obama. George Bush and every other president were addressed as President Bush or whomever. So why is President Obama addressed as Barack Obama almost a year after he has taken office?
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VirginiaJeff
Waiting for the "Jennifer Government" movie
10:42 PM on 12/18/2009
I'm a white guy. And I have to agree with the complainers: the premise of the (now deleted) article was wrong.
07:40 PM on 12/18/2009
One thing white folks really dont understand is the leadership style of black folks, on dealing with white people in politic, business, and sport & entertainment. Everyone wants President Obama go off on the Congress, Senate and all of the other opposition that surrounds his agenda for America; then you would hear whites saying why is the President so angry (THE ANGRY BLACK MAN) you remember the talking heads, news media writting an saying that Ms Obama was the angry black woman, during his run for office. This is the jacket they would love to put on President but he's to smart for that kind of a stupid move. He needs to keep leading the good fight Mr. President dont ever give in or let them see you angry. This man says what He means to the people that needs to know, not everyone need to be in on the conversation for the talking heads to make comments about how strong he is in handling Mr.or Ms America in policies talks for our country. This man likes to listen an understand both side before he open up for one to know what he's thinking before he start to take sides or put someone down in public, he's a class act!
01:35 AM on 12/18/2009
In the past few weeks, the two most famous and arguably most successful black men in America have taken a huge fall. It has become clear that both pro golfer Tiger Woods, just named Athlete of the Year by the Associated Press, and the American president, Barack Obama, the first black person to lead the country, suffer from a surfeit of hubris which has finally caught up with them. If both men somehow thought they were untouchable, they have been put to right. Both have crashed to earth and it may well be true that they can never recover their earlier status again.

While Woods' "indiscretions" affect only himself and his family, he has felt the sting of the media invasion and a permanent loss of privacy. His reputation as sport's good family guy is gone. For Barack Obama the honeymoon is really over, even those who wanted to give him a chance are getting tired of what is not getting done, what was promised and reneged on. There is disappointment enough in both of them.

It is tragic when an icon falls. When a black icon stumbles the tragedy seems doubly problematic. Mike Tyson, Magic Johnson, and Michael Jackson were all at the tops of their fields before revelations that made them less palatable as heroes and less of a role model for young black men. They have all been partially rehabilitated but not without a huge cost.
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Linda Milazzo
Participatory Journalist, Educator
10:46 AM on 12/18/2009
Dear Bonejaw...

I'm curious. You've reposted (above) the first three paragraphs verbatim of Lisa Solod Warren's original article without appropriate attribution (quotes/link) to the original article - which has apparently been withdrawn.

Bonejaw, what's your intention in reposting these first three paragraphs without proper attribution to the original article? Are you attempting to reintroduce parts of the article to continue the discussion? Please explain.

Much appreciated,
Linda
08:44 PM on 12/17/2009
Arguably one of the most offensive pieces of garbage I have ever read on HuffPo. Poorly written, complete drivel, and making inane, illogical comparisons to boot. However, the most frustrating thing about Ms/Mrs Warren is that no matter how many times poeple tell her this is, in fact, racist, she will scream at the top of her lungs that she is by no means a racist; you're the racist for calling her one. Blech. It just makes my stomach turn.
07:43 PM on 12/17/2009
This is one of the most ignorant things I've ever read. Congratulations on beating out Sarah Palin.
07:40 PM on 12/17/2009
Hubris??? Is this the same type of hubris at the core of white privilege? The kind of hubris underlying notions which would impel a person to write and publish an off-base, inappropriate, irresponsible, unaware article such as this one?
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dick daly
07:35 PM on 12/17/2009
You acknowledge the fact that an article written on race would get you some flack, then why did you not put more thought into what you wrote?

I feel that you fully stand behind what you have said, and that's what's sad. I don't have to tell you that your connection of these two men was wildly inappropriate and thoroughly offensive.

Two analogies: Tiger had too many drinks and decides to drive his family home and gets into an accident. He has made some very bad decisions but in the grand scheme it will only affect him and his family. Obama, on the other hand, was more like a pilot that was flying a plane that got shot down by his enemies. Obama was on a mission to get people to a good place but was defeated in the process. Many more people will be affected. The two situations should not be compared.
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Linda Milazzo
Participatory Journalist, Educator
06:36 PM on 12/17/2009
Dear Lisa,

Permit me to call you Lisa although I don't know you personally. I've read your article and the comments. I understand why the issues of race and racism have been addressed by so many. Quite simply, Lisa, you introduced race in your title, and race is a theme throughout. Would you have written an article on Bill Clinton, who also came from humble beginnings; who failed to implement Healthcare & Don't Ask, Don't Tell, and who was UNFAITHFUL as a 'WHTIE man done in by hubris'? Did you write on Bernie Madoff''s WHITE man hubris or Gov's Spitzer & Sanford's WHITE men hubris?

Lisa, the reason I know about this article is because I've received so many personal emails from people upset by your use of race as analogy. I don't believe you're racist, but I do believe you'd benefit if you accepted this as a teachable moment. Take heed of these responses. There are lessons to be learned. My gentle suggestion would be to acknowledge these readers' concerns. They are well-founded.

Analogizing Obama and Woods because they are of "mixed" race (as you say) is questionable at best. Would you analogize Bernie Madoff and Mark Sanford in an article and title it "Two WHITE Role Models Done In By Hubris"? As a writer, I've learned many lessons from readers. These readers want you to understand their concerns and hopefully re-evaluate your assertions. I think that's a legitimate suggestion.
06:30 PM on 12/17/2009
Neither of these men are represntative of Black males. President Obama was raised by his white American family and has NO BLACK AMERICAN RELATIVES. He neither grew up around or associated with black people. His first contact with blacks appears to be when he moved to Chicago as a grown man, and for political advancement sought some connection. But if you look at any photos of his presidency, he surrounds himself with whites, takes photos with whites, because these are the people that he is comfortable with.
His wife is just as comfortable and has little to no contact with black people.
Tiger Woods has publicly stated that he is NOT BLACK! He has no association or contact with black people.
So, white people, what ever their faults, blame it on their "whiteness", not on some false notion that either of these men are "black".
09:50 AM on 12/18/2009
But he has black african relatives and Obama considers himself black just because he can deal with people of other races easily and you can't doesn't make him any more or less join the 21st century
03:15 PM on 12/21/2009
You couldn't be more wrong if you tried harder. Every day, Pres. Obama is around at least 5 black people: himself, his wife, his two daughters and Reggie Love (his personal assistant and permanent workout buddy). Oh and his mother in law who moved into the White House with them. That's more than me. And I'm a "black American".
05:59 PM on 12/17/2009
Lisa Solod Warren has written a seriously flawed article. To compare Tiger Woods' situation and the presidency of Barack Obama and then say both bi-racial men were done in by hubris, that's totally absurd. What's their race or hubris got to do with anything...period. Ms. Warren, do I see a little racism creeping out here. Who are you to declare either man, done in?

As an Black female, I have seen it happen too often. Be an articulate, assertive, confident black male or female and you get labeled as filled with hubris which is a PC way of saying that you are too d**m uppity. As I see it, both men are at the top of their game and deserve to be confident about their skills and abilities. No, we can't take that away from them.

American's want quick fixes on everything. George W. Bush provided this country with quick fixes. which lead us to the brink of a depression. Obama is charting a slow steady course of action.

Tiger Woods has succumb to what a lot of highly paid athletes, movie stars, politicians, business tycoons and even preachers have succumb to...too much money...poor impluse control...too many women who have no morals...too many people looking the other way. Money talks. Power seduces.

So, it is not two black role models done in by hubris. It's two men..with awesome gifts having difficulty in the court of public opinion for two entirely different reasons.
03:16 PM on 12/21/2009
Wonderful response! I'm now a fan.
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jamaicalover
Team Obama
05:26 PM on 12/17/2009
To Lisa Solod Warren,

President Obama hasn't failed at anything and he's a role model for all people not just African Americans. And why are you lumping him with tiger woods? President Obama loves his wife deeply and it appears Tiger didn't feel the same about his wife. The only failure here is your lack of insight and knowledge about what failure is and isn't.
04:48 PM on 12/17/2009
Tiger -- who never took any political stand whatsoever, who said he wasn't black but mixed race -- is a black role model?

While I have black friends, I certainly am not going to speak for blacks, but I have to say...not a single one of my black friends EVER said Tiger was a role model. Those that loved golf, admired his game...but that was it.
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04:38 PM on 12/17/2009
Funny,

I don't remember reading any articles about the affects of the hubris of Mark Sanford, David Vitter, John Ensign, John Edwards had on the psyche of White Americans.

Really,

I find it absolutely fascinicating that Tiger Woods and Barack Obama are know the defacto representatives for African Americans. Well, somehow I don't think either one of them got that memo.