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'A Dangerous Method': Notes on a Film About Freud and Jung

Posted: 12/02/11 08:25 AM ET

I am no apologist for either Sigmund Freud or Carl Jung but this film was a petty, if not perverse, rendition of a profound moment in the intellectual and social history of the Western world. What makes the film's treatment (no pun intended) of this era so troubling is that not many know the actual story about the origins of psychoanalysis and psychotherapy, nor of its twin human pillars -- namely, Freud and Jung.

It is 1904, and a horse drawn carriage is transporting a writhing and screaming young woman to the Burgholzli Clinic in Switzerland. Her Russian, Jewish, bourgeois family has sent her to this renowned treatment center where she will be cared for by the gifted Dr. Carl Jung (Michael Fassbender). The Burgholzli Director, Herr Doctor Eugen Bleuler, had gained fame for naming "schizophrenia." Bleuler described this disorder in a more hopeful manner than had Emil Kraepelin who had earlier called it Dementia Praecox, signaling an early and hopeless course. Jung too was an innovator, like his mentor, and had read Freud's accounts of the "talking cure" (as it was called). Jung would try it on his new patient, Sabina Spielrein (Keira Knightley). Almost instantaneously, she recalls humiliating thrashings by her father, dating back to when she was four. Very soon thereafter, she adds she relished the abuse. That's short-term therapy if I ever saw it.

Spielrein is a perfect patient for the "talking cure" -- to distinguish this approach from the purgatives and emetics, bloodletting, cold baths and restraints that constituted too much of 19th century hospital psychiatric treatment. She was intelligent, highly educated, Jewish, and suffered from the condition then known as hysteria. She was not psychotic, nor did she have depression or bipolar disorder. She had fits, like the infamous hysterics treated by the great doctors of 19th century French psychiatry (especially Charcot and Janet). Bouts of hysteria are wildly expressive behaviors and Knightley embellishes them to a fare-thee-well. Sabina, like the grand hysterics of her era, was trying to communicate through her body and her symptoms what she could not say in words because of shame, repression and the oppression that was the fate of being a woman in Victorian times.

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Freud (played cautiously by the usually uninhibited Viggo Mortensen) claimed that his treatment could turn neurotic misery into ordinary unhappiness. Jung's ambition for Sabina was far greater, it was Pygmalion: he would help her become a doctor. Jung, married to a devoted and very rich wife who bears him five children, soon invites his patient to assist in his research. From bench to bedside, but not in the traditional sense of how science goes from the laboratory bench to its use in hospitals for patients. Instead, we see him do the ethically unspeakable, namely have a torrid sexual affair with his patient. While this indeed did happen, the dominance it has in the film is unfortunate -- especially since what may be most disturbingly memorable from the film are the sadomasochistic sex scenes so graphically performed.

The relationship between Freud and Jung has intrigued many an author. A Dangerous Method dwells on the father-son aspects and caricatures both men. Freud is the rigid, doctrinaire Jew aspiring to a place in society who spent most of his adult life trying to earn enough to support his large Viennese family. Jung is the wealthy, aristocratic Swiss Protestant who is getting special messages from the universe that became instrumental to his later theories about archetypes. Freud saw human nature as driven by unconscious forces of sex and aggression where Jung saw a "collective unconscious," the repository of human experience from time immemorial. Where Freud saw fate perhaps it could be said that Jung saw opportunity.

Sabina serves as a link and a source of conflict between the two men. Freud was appalled by Jung's taking his patient as a lover. He was also threatened by Jung's ideas and the impact they could have on the fledgling field of analysis. Jung was enraged by Freud's determination to rule psychoanalysis and dominate Jung and dismiss his ideas. Sabina does become a doctor and psychoanalyst who challenges Freud himself but returns to her perverse relationship with Jung, and then rebuts him. Yet there is far more going on and the film seems to not appreciate the history of early 20th-century Europe with the rise of totalitarianism, the persecution of Jews, and the nightmare of Hitler. It also does not credit these two psychiatrist pioneers with advancing theories of the mind that changed the Western world.

Freud had to flee his country to escape the Nazis. Many contend that Jung became a Nazi sympathizer. Jung had a severe and several year long episode of psychosis, recently illustrated in the publication of The Red Book, full of mysticism and primary process material. Freud did open his mind to the role of the ego, the rational part of the mind, and his daughter, Anna, was extraordinary in her work. She explained how our mind works through "defenses," like denial, intellectualization, repression, sublimation and passive aggression, which are now part of our vernacular. Jung recovered from his psychosis and has left us with an understanding of the deepest of individual and social determinants of behavior. There was far more going on than Carl bedding and beating Sabina or Freud frowning upon that disgraceful behavior, which the film tends to leave you recalling.

David Cronenberg, the film's director, and the writers, appear to have missed the plot. They had a phenomenal story and the finest of actors. The audience could have left the theatre without indelible images of abuse in the forefront of their experience. They could have been illuminated by the mental and spiritual human wellsprings revealed by these great men, despite all their limitations, which are among the most profound influences we have on our minds today.

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I am no apologist for either Sigmund Freud or Carl Jung but this film was a petty, if not perverse, rendition of a profound moment in the intellectual and social history of the Western world. What mak...
I am no apologist for either Sigmund Freud or Carl Jung but this film was a petty, if not perverse, rendition of a profound moment in the intellectual and social history of the Western world. What mak...
 
 
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frant52
12:05 PM on 12/27/2011
Having just seen this movie a few days ago, I read this column with great interest. My own opinion is that the movie was very well acted, and beautifully filmed.
While I don't have as much knowledge on the subject, having only limited exposure to Jung and Freud, and not any of Sabina Spielrein, this movie certainly has sparked my interest.
I don't expect historical accuracy from Hollywood interpretations, I do however expect good acting.
I generally want to be entertained, and when, as in this case, the movie opens up new avenues of interest, I consider it a success.
10:18 PM on 12/07/2011
Of the four Ashrama (stages of life)

Grihastha (householder)(Freud)

Vanaprastha (retired life) (Jung)

It is interesting that Erich Neumann encouraged his son Micha to become a Freudian as he considered it appropriate for young people.

http://www.haaretz.com/jung-at-heart-1.148506
pavementends42
Micro-bio is a study, not a blurb.
04:33 PM on 12/05/2011
It is difficult to condense such a thing into so few frames. That said, there are also the hurdles of the producers coaching for a 'marketable' film and the writers pushing for greater drama, clarity of conflict and 'distilling' complex issues into something watchable. So, basically, a 2-hour, Hollywood production about something very well studied, or at least speculated on, falls short of reality? Yeah, expect that.
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Frank Smith
09:29 AM on 12/04/2011
A 2 hour movie is never going to provide the sort of dense and nuanced recounting that historical events generally require.
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04:55 AM on 12/04/2011
Am looking forward to seeing the movie, despite the criticism from Dr. Sederer. Our idols do not need to be treated like sacred cows; in fact, it is dangerous to do so.
01:52 PM on 12/04/2011
That seems to oversimplify Dr. Sederer's criticism. Freud and Jung are hardly sacred cows to much of psychotherapy. They're recognized as influential pioneers, but often in the same breath described as having little to no relevance today. That said, Dr. Sederer's criticism appears to be that the film focuses more on Jung's unethical relationship with his patient than with the relationship between Freud and Jung. Freud was a relentless self-promoter who quite literally reigned over the Vienna Wednesday Psychological Society. The ruptured friendship between the two men is plenty to fill a movie. Beyond that, the details of the relationship between Sabina and Carl Jung are murky at best, culled from letters and diaries. There's no mention of a sadomasochistic nature to their relationship. That fabrication seems contrived as a means to put butts in seats, but draws attention from the well-documented nature of the Freud-Jung relationship to focus on the poorly-documented Speilrein-Jung relationship.
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Lisa Guest
On-site stress reductionist, writer
10:25 PM on 12/03/2011
I can't wait to see this movie. I saw a stage play (I forget the name of it) about this subject a number of years ago at the LA music center... perhaps the Ahmanson or Taper... I'm glad you wrote this article and pointed out these facts. Those were heady times and we are better for it! Always the subject of how intellectual Jewish women were hysterical when they just were potently erotic is a subject I can always watch and write about...
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french queen13
my beloved is mine and I am his
05:16 PM on 12/03/2011
None of this is surprising coming from Cronenberg.
04:08 PM on 12/03/2011
I thought that Dr. Sederer’s review was very well-written and is much appreciated. I found the film very interesting, even compelling. The psychological ideas were presented well. The acting was very good, except that the early flailing about by Keira seemed way overdone. For me, it was overall fascinating and moving, although of course tragic in many ways. Brian Ladds
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Pythia Peay
Writer on spirituality, psychology, and the Americ
09:39 AM on 12/03/2011
Thank you for this wonderfully informed piece on "A Dangerous Method," which, from the sound of it, could be called "A Most Dangerous Movie" for its inaccuracies. I haven't seen the movie yet, but have been disappointed to learn about the sadomasochistic sex scenes between Jung and Spielren.Your piece illuminates the truths of Freud and Jung's pioneering contributions to understanding the terra incognita of the human psyche, while helping to dispel the fog of misunderstanding that continues to surround their reputations.
frank1946
Tell the Truth
07:20 AM on 12/03/2011
Thanks Loyld, I always wondered how all this Psychiatric subject works and functions !

I will print out this Story and keep it to remind me that "There's Nothing New Under the Sun" !

Are Politicians also affected by the same Behaviors and Sandards ?

This Movie will Jump Start Psychology Enrollments.
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Connie Markley Boppre
06:22 AM on 12/03/2011
must see
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Nicole Garton
08:11 PM on 12/02/2011
While the film perhaps did not examine all the particulars in the detail that a medical doctor would appreciate, I think, having seen the film, that it did actually hint at, if not address outright, many of the themes that Dr. Sederer think it "missed."

Personally, I did not leave the theater with "indelible images of abuse in the forefront of [my] experience". In fact, I found that the film did actually convey the sense that these men did usher in a new era of medicine and philosophy. Despite whatever flaws the film may have, I think for the non-specialist it illustrated a great deal of information while maintaining a strong character-driven narrative. I don't know that the average movie-goer would appreciate this film strictly as entertainment, but for those who like a bit of intellectual debate (not to mention sex) with their popcorn, this suits quite well.
04:50 PM on 12/02/2011
To glorify the impact that these two quacks had on how we view and treat mental illness makes me sick to my stomach.
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Klad InVermont
09:32 AM on 12/03/2011
Since you brought it up, who would or do you glorify?
02:32 PM on 12/02/2011
sounds good to me, why is it not playing anywhere.
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darquelourd
You Get What You Play For
02:32 PM on 12/02/2011
What can you expect from popular culture? It has the depth of a soap opera.