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Lodro Rinzler

Lodro Rinzler

Posted: August 29, 2010 07:45 PM

Many people look to Siddhartha Gautama as an example of someone who attained nirvana, a buddha. Every other week in this column we look at what it might be like if Siddhartha was on his spiritual journey today. How would he combine Buddhism and dating? How would he handle stress in the workplace? "What Would Sid Do?" is devoted to taking an honest look at what we as meditators face in the modern world.

Every other week I'll take on a new question and give some advice based on what I think Sid, a fictional Siddhartha, would do. Here Sid is not yet a buddha; he's just someone struggling to maintain an open heart on a spiritual path while facing numerous distractions along the way. Because let's face it: you and I are Sid.

This week's question comes from Chuck: "On another blog you mentioned 'Right Drinking' in one of your posts. What is that? I often drink too much. How can I make drinking not be detrimental to my meditation path?"

To start off, I should note that nowhere in Buddhist texts will you find the term "Right Drinking." I first mentioned it in my post on whether or not our fictional Sid would take a job as a bartender. (I said he would.) But in fact, many traditional Buddhist teachers stick pretty strongly to the whole "I undertake the vow to abstain from intoxicants that cause heedlessness" thing.

As is often discussed in this column, traditional monastic systems clash with the reality of a modern existence in the West. Given this, we need to determine for ourselves what it means to consume intoxicants that can easily lead to confusion and recklessness -- because if you've seen sites like textsfromlastnight, you know that there's a lot of heedlessness to be had when you drink. The first question I might pose to any practitioner pondering this question would be, "Do you want to drink at all?" If you feel like you can't be a practitioner who drinks, that's fine. That is your truth, and it's worth sticking to.

However, it seems that your question, Chuck, was not so much, "Is it okay to drink?" as, "How can I drink without losing my head?" That is a great question. How often have you seen an alcohol ad that ended with "Drink Responsibly"? What does that even mean? The alcohol companies aren't going to tell us, so we have to figure it out for ourselves.

If there's Right Speech, then why can't the modern-day practitioner engage in Right Drinking? We know that the historical Sid did drink in his youth, but as the Buddha he acknowledged that alcohol is a dangerous fire to play with. Over time, as Buddhism spread and encountered new lands, it morphed to accommodate those cultures. Today in many monasteries in Tibet and India, Vajrayana practitioners will incorporate alcohol as part of their practice.

The intent is not to get the monks wasted but to take what is seen as a poison and transform it into a tool for spaciousness. Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche attempted to lead his Vajrayana students in the West in what he referred to as "mindful drinking," with mixed results. Some students engaged the practice to the point where they felt a loosening up on their ego and their dualistic sense of "me" vs. "the world." Others threw up.

One student of Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche said that they were encouraged to "drink just enough to relax, to appreciate your situation and to help your ego go to sleep." The idea was to watch how the alcohol affects you and see how it can relax your mind. When you feel that loosening inside you, then you stop.

Unfortunately, most of us don't stop there. Most of us go out with the intention of loosening our mind, celebrating something with friends, or having a low-key get-together and don't have the discipline to say "no" to one more drink.

With that said, I think Right Drinking would include the following:

  1. Know your intention: are you motivated to drink as a practice tool? To shake off a bad day at work? To relax with a friend? To drink your sorrows away? Knowing in advance what you're intending to use alcohol for is important. Drinking alcohol is a bit like taking out a chainsaw; if you don't know what you intend to do with it, you're going to get hurt.
  2. Taste it: this is a very simple way to bring mindfulness to your drinking habits. Don't chug, don't gulp it down, but try to taste every sip. Enjoy the alcohol you drink. Along those lines, I'd recommend drinking less and drinking good alcohol -- quality, not quantity.
  3. Watch what happens to your mind as you drink: notice the effect the alcohol has on you. You don't have to make a big deal of it, but you can at least pause after you finish a drink, look up, rest your mind, and see how you feel.
  4. Find your own Middle Way: it might be that you're walking the fine line between relaxed, spacious, and pleasant now, but will one more drink push you over the edge into crazy town? As Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche encouraged his students to do, stop while you can still appreciate the situation.

Alcohol is easy to abuse. I don't want to seem like I'm trying to make binge-drinking OK by saying it is meditation. That's the opposite of what I'm trying to get across. Instead, I'm saying let's bring mindfulness to the act of drinking. Let's not overindulge; let's work with our craving in a fashion similar to the way we work with it on the meditation cushion. Let's enjoy the experience without falling into the trap of confusion.

At the end of the night of a Right Drinking, don't be surprised if instead of feeling woozy you feel refreshed by the experience.

Have a question for this column? E-mail it to this address with the subject line "What would Sid do," and your question will likely appear in a future post.

 
 
 
Many people look to Siddhartha Gautama as an example of someone who attained nirvana, a buddha. Every other week in this column we look at what it might be like if Siddhartha was on his spiritual jour...
Many people look to Siddhartha Gautama as an example of someone who attained nirvana, a buddha. Every other week in this column we look at what it might be like if Siddhartha was on his spiritual jour...
 
 
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little old lady
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02:21 AM on 10/08/2010
I practice to be present and have a clear mind. Using alcohol or drugs does not further my practice any. Nice to find you here, on Huffington Post. Nice surprise!
05:26 PM on 09/13/2010
I think we could all benefit if we lightened up a bit about this sweet thread of comments. There are many, many forms of Buddhism. Right now, here in the west, I feel like the Dharma will completely fizzle out and die, or remain an exclusivist community of idealists, unless we start including every. single. thing.

Alcohol intoxicates us. Much like we become intoxicated by emotions. Holding that in consideration, it can be an amazing training tool.

I guess my thesis is: We should maintain humor and a sense of adventure, all under the umbrella of discipline.
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khanti
Cultivator
01:11 PM on 09/05/2010
Dear Mr.Lodro Rinzler, I know you have received quite a number of negative comments here pertaining to your blog but please do not be discouraged from your Dharma contribution here in HuffPo. These comments are well intended. Only when you have attachment to knowledge and your own experinces that you feel hurt -. when there is ego then the disriminating mind arises. It is good to write an article with compassion in your heart.
It is good to have a Guru to guide you but keep in mind they are not yet perfect beings and are not perfect in wisdom yet. If you believe in rebith then you can see the present Dalai Lama took so many lifetimes to get to the present state of wisdom, that too, through the pratice of compassion.
Do continue your Dharma Duta work. May you be well and happy.
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Beth Boyle
11:09 PM on 09/03/2010
Most religions expect one to respect one's own body. Any heavy drinking is pretty bad for body and soul. Binge drinking is out for sure.
11:06 PM on 09/03/2010
For me, the Middle Way is to make sure that I imbibe one pint of Guiness before dinner. It helps me relax and the big gulp of liquid slakes my thirst and I tend to not over-eat as a result.
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khanti
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07:59 PM on 09/03/2010
You can drink all you want and even with mindfulness or in balance ; you can still be a Buddhist but please don't involve Buddhism in this act.
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Chubbster
Partisanship is a mental illness
07:25 PM on 09/03/2010
Alcohol is fine. Just not too much.
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roninroshi
Oni ni Kanabo (鬼に金棒 )
08:13 AM on 09/03/2010
Right drinking...a cup of chilled Nakano O'Sake on a sweltering summer afternoon!
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khanti
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03:04 AM on 09/03/2010
I will give you an example of right smoking. Not long ago you can actually see monks puffing away in a Thai Watt (temple). It could have started by a senior monk who accepts a gift of cigarette from a devotee out of giving an opportunity for the devotee to gain merit. Of course it results in other juniour monks following that example and soon it was common for devotees to offer a packet and monks puffing away. You get secondary smoke in a temple(besides the burning incense) and addfiction. Only recently that the Raja Sangha there put a decree to stop monks from smoking.
Now, let's replace the cigarrete scene with a drink only this time lay Buddhist get the opportunity to emulate the monks.............................
Seriously are you a practicing Buddhist or just 'Buddhist' in a Buddha Bar?
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Lodro Rinzler
09:22 AM on 09/03/2010
Hi khanti - this seems like a bit of a stretch here, since I explicitly draw a distinction between monastic culture and Western lay culture. I appreciate that you disagree with the idea that you can bring mindfulness to your drinking. That's fine. My article doesn't make me any less a life-long Buddhist, just a Buddhist with a different point of view. It's important to be kind, even when posting in an anonymous forum.
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khanti
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12:20 PM on 09/03/2010
My sincere apology if my comment seem cruel. Losing our mind is what we avoid in practice. why test it with alcohol? If a person has not drink alcohol before and want to try it, keeping in mind that it will alter the state of the mind. That person then try a sip and observe the effects, seeing the danger he completely gives it up. That I would call a responsible person.
Suppose a monk is offered a certain type of food call tapai which contain alcohol causing mild intoxication but because of his practice of equanimity he remains mindful and in full control. He does not take this food again less he set a bad example for others to follow nor will he encourage other inexperience monks to take this food knowing that not everyone can handle things with equanimity.
That is the message I am trying to pass on.
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americancolonyinhell
07:33 PM on 09/02/2010
What if you're totally jaded, dear sid, and although sympathetic to Buddhism, think that everything is really just a cover for existential distress, and so drink to forget, what then? Huh?
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Lodro Rinzler
09:25 AM on 09/03/2010
americancolonyinhell - I personally think drinking to forget is a sad solution in that when you wake up sober you still have your problems and a nasty hangover. Whenever I feel a bit jaded on an issue I try to get together with someone who is really inspired and try to figure out why that is. If they are genuine about the issue sometimes simply communicating that you're jaded and hearing their take on an issue can help perk you up.
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Tulka2
Solidarity. Courage. Humor.
06:48 PM on 09/01/2010
Drunks become fixated on a thing right in front of them. There is no expansiveness.

It surprises me you would say being a bartender is "right livelihood". While it is okay, i think, to drink in moderation, it's difficult for me to think selling booze for a living is right livelihood. How could you know you were not feeding some one's terrible habit?

It's should also bed noted many of these strong opinions about drunkenness come out of Asian cultures, like Tibet, that really saw suffering when the tribal peoples began to have access to booze. Tribal peoples don't do well with alcohol. Most Europeans have had at least a couple of thousand years to lose the genetic codes that couldn't handle alcohol. Some Asians have had alcohol at least that long, but many Asian cultures are as new to alcohol as Ireland or the tribal peoples of the Americas. Of course they would have strong opinions about it.
02:46 PM on 09/01/2010
I also have to wonder why this issue seems to come up so much more often than the other 4 precepts? Given that the practitioner isn't putting others in harms way when they drink, isn't unskillful speech much (in terms of damage done), much worse than a beer or drink with friends? Why do people get so bent out of shape over this one? Clearly if someone has a drinking problem, that goes beyond the precepts and they just plain need help at that point.
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Lodro Rinzler
03:13 PM on 09/01/2010
Hi homebrewdharma - this is an excellent point. I think a lot more harm can be caused by gossip than by having one beer with a friend. I think if we hold the idea of doing no harm while engaging our life we can still be Buddhists and be in the world.
05:05 PM on 09/04/2010
Hi Lodro,

I agree that gossip can be more harmful than having one (or even more than one) beer with a friend. But while it's pretty easy to identify which beverages qualify as alcoholic and which do not, people often disagree about what is and isn't gossip.

Some speech may be harmful to some while helpful to others. Those who find the speech in question threatening may consider it harmful and may dismiss it as gossip (as when Pope Benedict dismissed allegations of sexual abuse against Catholic clergy as "petty gossip"), while others may find it helpful. (A bishop in Italy who oversaw the parish of a priest suspected of molesting 30 children and on trial for molesting 7 said he ignored complaints "because you hear so many rumors." Some rumors are indeed gossip, but some rumors merit further investigation, and sometimes silence can be anything but "right speech.")

I'd love to see you write a piece about "right speech" sometime.
02:46 PM on 09/01/2010
I don't think there is such a thing as "right drinking" or "mindful drinking" when alcohol is involved. This coming from one who loves beer and homebrews and considers himself a Buddhist.

I do believe however, that there is such a thing as "responsible drinking" - knowing your limit, not causing others or yourself harm when you drink, not drinking as part of an addiction.

I'm realistic about my practice and my life. I know that I'll never achieve/realize/attain enlightenment while I'm drinking alcohol. Won't happen. But I honestly don't think my 3-5 beers/ week are a major source of my suffering. I'm more concerned with some of the other skandhas than my beer with dinner or occasional homebrewing hobby.

The 5th precept to me is quite clear for lay people: don't become intoxicated because if you do, you cannot remain mindful and alert. An enormous part of the practice is remaining mindful and alert - at all times, not just on the meditation cushion.

Occasionally too many friends might get together and too much mead might get poured around. When that happens, there is no way to excuse that behavior as "skillful" or "mindful". But there's also no reason to demonize the occasional party with friends, especially for us lay people. It's okay. Buddhists can have fun too. We should just be realistic about the effects that "fun" has on us.

My actions are the ground upon which I stand.
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10:58 PM on 08/31/2010
I see that many posts regarding Trungpa Rinpoche's overt alcoholism have been scrubbed. This is not the way to discuss something in a truthful atmosphere and mirror's Pema Chodron's warnings about sweeping this topic under the rug.
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Lodro Rinzler
09:20 AM on 09/01/2010
Hi AirViceMarshalPark - I haven't seen a lot of comments being scrubbed. I myself said that I would prefer to discuss Trungpa Rinpoche in a non-online forum but others should feel free to keep posting about that topic in a considerate manner of one another.
02:04 PM on 10/13/2010
I can appreciate your desire to discuss Trungpa Rinpoche (and I assume by this you mean his problem with alcohol) in a "non-online forum". But I do find it interesting that you bring him into a post on alcohol consumption...and then perhaps expect *that* aspect of his reality to not be discussed in the same thread. It seems curious to me.

I think I understand your intention.

I do not understand how you might think the split would continue because you prefer it that way.
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08:08 PM on 08/31/2010
Early in the days of the Buddha's traveling and meditating in parks.. quite a few monks progressed rapidly and made the first dip into the absolute. Sagata was one such monk and he had gotten some siddhis. Which allowed him to convert a powerful Naga with his adhittana siddhi.
In a village where the Buddha visited much excitement was stirred up over Sagata's battle with the Naga. The villagers wondered how to honor Sagata. One said that white spirits .. being so pure .. would be a good blessing.. So Sagata when going from home to home asking for alms was given powerful alcohol at each.
Soon he was so drunk he passed out.
Fellow monks found him laying on the road. They carried him to the Buddha who made fun of him saying "Did not Sagata conquer the great Ambahtitta Naga?.. now he could not even conquer a salamander."
It was at this point that the Buddha declared alcohol off limits for serious meditators.

If people want to drink that should be fine -but they are not following the Buddha's path.

There are plenty of tales about Shambhala Mountain Center's drinking, drugging and sleeping with teachers and participants.
That we should see rationalizations and invitations to join in drinking coming from there is hardly a surprise .. it IS a shame however ... and it is not good teaching Or... in the case of career Buddhists and writers, it is not right livelihood.
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Lodro Rinzler
09:32 AM on 09/03/2010
Victor, you write, "If people want to drink that should be fine -but they are not following the Buddha's path...That we should see rationalizations and invitations to join in drinking coming from [Shambhala Mountain] is hardly a surprise .. it IS a shame however ... and it is not good teaching Or... in the case of career Buddhists and writers, it is not right livelihood."

I found this quote interesting:

The Most Profound View

"From among all the proponents of all the philosophical tenets there might be, there is no one who thinks that they have an inferior view to somebody else. Therefore, any specific follower of any tenet will always say that their view is the most profound, because if they think that their own view is inferior to someone else's, they will not be very enthusiastic about listening to teachings about it and meditating on it.

So when we hear this presentation of the philosophical views, it is really up to us to decide what we think is the most profound presentation. When the Buddha made these presentations of the different philosophical views, the point was to allow people to use their own intelligence to investigate the various teachings. The Buddha's methods help us become skilled in the different philosophical views, and teach us how to analyze things for ourselves."

-- Khenpo Tsultrim Gyamtso Rinpoche, From The Two Truths, Zhyisil Chokyi Ghatsal publications, p. 3. Translated and edited by Ari Goldfield
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11:24 AM on 09/03/2010
Analyzing views for oneself is definitely wise. ..
It is the pedestalization and emulation of the Rimps -and Sakyongs - their vices and political shenanigans- that is a shame to see.
Go ahead and point your feet at the Buddha if you want.
I just am saying that publicly encouraging and excusing twisting the precepts it is not right livelihood.
I have quite a few friends dead or suffering now after 30 years of what they thought was "right drinking" under Trungpa's influence.