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Lorelei Kelly

Posted: October 15, 2010 01:40 AM

Crashing the Tea Party Joyride

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The Tea Party has done us all a favor. It has pointed out how absent we've been in building a common narrative about modern American citizenship. Their candidates are fascinating -- like watching campaign season through beer goggles. But every time I hear one of them speak in public, I realize what an advantage the rest of us have -- real stories, real characters, real democracy.

The Tea Party is taking a joyride through the world of American ideals. Along the way, it has grabbed the best revolutionary symbols, the cinematic frustration of the masses, and an irreproachable sounding plan (Fiscal responsibility! Constitutionally limited government! Free markets! Yay!)

But it's all emotions and fantasy. Despite the symbolic appeal, Tea Partiers don't really speak to tradition. They speak to nostalgia. These signals resurrected from the past are not representative. They are kitsch.

Their problem is that they actually prefer Bill O'Reilly to the Bill of Rights. Judging from the demographics, the Tea Party is the last act of the cynical Boomers, hence, a vision of government that doesn't go beyond shouting and a soundtrack. Their story has no characters or plot. It ends with the Winnebago driving off the cliff. How romantic and awesome! And then what?

Its time to take what they have started -- a participatory impetus for change -- re-brand it, and run away with it.

The argument is basic, and drawn in stark relief. Is there an US in the USA? Do we have a common purpose? Will we be able to evolve our collective identity to meet the needs of the modern era?

They have the "what" but we have the "how". Last week, I attended the Reinventing Governance conference in Colorado. Everyone there had an example of citizens taking the initiative, solving problems at the local level.

The Tea Party is the crowning achievement of the conservative rise in American politics. Who needs evidence when you have good optics? The right is not required to meet the challenge that the rest of us face -- that of governing ourselves. They are in eternal opposition, even when in office.

Conservatives have achieved this public relations coup because, on the right, the intellectuals and the propagandists are the same people (Gingrich, Rove). In contrast, those who defend the public sector -- public intellectuals -- have gone missing for years. We do have more civic firepower. Its just that our academics and operatives disdain each other. One group is polishing their footnotes and the other group is dialing for dollars. They rarely meet each other.

Moreover, conservatives prioritize communication as much as subject matter -- the right's mother ship Heritage Foundation spends nearly half its money on marketing. Meanwhile, those who believe in the common good work under a myth of omniscience. We believe that because an idea is right it will be obvious and because it is obvious it will be implemented.

These connections are fallacies. They don't exist. To be influential, ideas need a long-term infrastructure behind them. For example, "Islamophobia" is not an accident, it is an outcome. "Ground Zero Mosque" "Jihad Jane" etc. Conservative operatives have in place a network of relationships and one-liners that can surge to meet the needs of the day's headlines. If it is politically useful for them to marginalize Muslim Americans, they do it.

I worked on Capitol Hill in a progressive office during Republican reign. It was like fighting a well trained army with a pickup team. My side was always in the library and in the streets, but never in the room. This is not the same for conservatives today.

The Obama administration certainly could have communicated more consistently and forcefully over the past two years. But our president lacks the philosophical audience to back him up. Where are the people who can explain governing? Who empathize with institutions? Lots of us do, but we are not intentional about it.

Hope and Change still remain to be translated into a story about the rest of us. The path forward is staring us right in the face. Our greatest strength is our immense ability to connect with others, including those in power. Over the next decade, we will create new norms of democratic participation in which -- by definition -- corporations cannot preempt citizens. DC will be the last stop in this movement for change. You act on behalf of the common good dozens of times a day and don't even think about it.

I would argue that we have not even begun to assess our own power. Speaking as a former Hill staffer, the relationships forged on behalf of ideals are viewed differently than the purchased relationships beholden to private commercial lobbies. As Craig Newmark says, "Trust is the new black". We have that in our corner.

Government is changing rapidly. There are dozens of new transparency requirements and rules for openness. But information without interpreters is just more noise. To be politically useful, it requires a civic filter. Every Member of Congress went to High School. You long-time friends, make an appointment with the local office and ask. What are some basic public interest issues that you vote on? What do you need information about? How can we support you? You will be amazed at how many topics have no constituent input.

This kind of individual initiative -- citizens putting a stake in the ground on behalf of the collective -- is powerful. Telling your leaders what you're doing in your community will provide the characters and plot for our narrative.

The American people long for a novel, not a sitcom. We want a good story about who we are and where we're going in the world. Most of all, we want the happy ending, the one where nobody gets left out. Whoever tells this story best will win.

The Tea Party wants a knife fight and we've been showing up with chop sticks. This has to change.

 

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01:10 PM on 10/18/2010
Yawn. Seriously, if you are smart enough to sit around and come up with a 1500 word rant filled with clever metaphorical jabs at the opposition, then you are smart enough to pick up a shovel and find something useful to do. For those of us (of whom you are so very encouraging) that are DOING that sort of work in our communities, these articles are annoying. Despite your experience on the Hill, I think you are naive about the way government actually functions at the local level. As a 35 year old female who has inhabited in nearly every realm of gov't and academia, all I can say is, "been there, had that rant." Don't you ever get tired of all the hot air? Try serving on your city council--that'll be an eye-opener, and not for the reasons you think! Get some "boots on the ground" experience and you'll have a very different impression of the self-absorbed rantings of political bloggers...and maybe something valuable to say.
03:35 PM on 10/18/2010
Really love this response. So much so I can't add to it so I'll just say I agree 100%
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68Namvet
Sioux, French, German, Jew, American mutt
08:36 PM on 10/18/2010
Having read this post and your other rants - it's obvious you do not take your own advice and are busy coming up with your own clever metaphorical jabs at the posts you disagree with. If you don't agree with a post and want to comment - fine. But, telling people they should not post an opinion or cannot have a valid opinion about how government should or does work until they serve on a city council strikes me as the disingenuous self-absorbed rantings a person full of "hot air"
Pauline Jaing
Artist, worker, mother
10:39 PM on 10/17/2010
Its making up a story that is wrong, even a kind of modern book burning

People live lives, they experience things -- like that elephant stare my Dad had, that I knew came from something sad and terrible because he was gone, not there, not available to me. I never knew it came from combat in World War II until the PBS series but I knew it was bad; there are ghosts all over the place; my great grandma was a Cherokee but I never knew it until I was an adult because my great grandparents had to tell the Texans she was French (her accent) as they hated Indians! We are chock full of what happened to our parents and grandparents, the good and the bad, and you cannot make up a bunch of lies and win anything. Much of my life has been about trying to find the truth about what happened to my family.
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dubbleplusgood
turned off CNN, turned on CurrentTV
08:21 PM on 10/17/2010
The Tea Party name is also a myth. They are Republicans re-branded to avoid connection with the Bush/Cheney disaster. I've seen a few posters within Huffpo comments that have mentioned they refuse to vote for the Tea Party but will still vote Republican. Some people just don't get it and the MSM is largely to blame for the successful makeover.

It's the same old Republican party infected with an assortment of evangelical Moral Majority throwbacks from Reagan's era, Ron Paul's 1-dimensional tax complainers all mixed in with an unhealthy dose of good 'ole boyz who are terrified of both a black president and 2010 being the first year more minority babies are born than white babies.
05:07 PM on 10/18/2010
Most of us Ron Paul supporters are NOT Tea Party members anymore (We sorta jumped ship once the socially conservative bile infested it, which was not present at the very beginning), and we're not exactly one-dimensional either. You've obviously never actually read the policy ideas of Paul supporters; while tax cuts are a massive part of it, it's not the same kind of "cut taxes but leave spending" idiocy that Tea Partiers are asking for.

That, and I'd imagine you'd probably like Paul's anti-war stance; most on the left do.
05:15 PM on 10/17/2010
While I will give props to Ms. Kelly for resisting the undoubtedly strong urge to smear the tea party as racists like all the cool kids have been doing, I have to say this entire article is remarkably fiskworthy. Unfortunately, the local comment system doesn't allow much in the way of rebuttals, so:

"The American people long for a novel, not a sitcom. We want a good story about who we are and where we're going in the world. Most of all, we want the happy ending, the one where nobody gets left out. Whoever tells this story best will win."

I don't want a novel or a sitcom. I don't want a good story (narrative/propaganda) and the only place we're going in the world right now is the poorhouse. I want a happy ending, but not a socialist utopia where everybody has healthcare whether we want it or not. I hope nobody gets left out, but that's up to each person themselves. Maybe a lot of them WANT to be left out. Like me.

What I DO want is government to spend FAR less money, even if that means it has to spend less on "services", or even defense (which at least is constitutionally mandated). I also want government at all levels but especially the federal level to LEAVE. ME. ALONE.

As far as I'm concerned, whoever manages THAT will win. And I think THAT is what the tea party thing is all about.
06:48 PM on 10/17/2010
Life is a journey, not a destination. There are no "endings", happy or otherwise. It's about making things better than the way we found it. The reason America has succeeded. Progressivism

Why is health care for all Americans "socialist", any more than Medicare or public education? It can easily be argued that these are constitutional rights, which is supposedly a big part of the "tea party" message.
07:49 PM on 10/17/2010
I will cede the argument to you if you can show me in the constitution where education or healthcare are mentioned at all, nevermind as the responsibility of government. Some actually DO argue that Medicare and public education are socialistic...I won't go that far. Or rather, I won't say that absolutely no elements of socialism should exist in the US...honesty compels one to admit that government monopolies are socialistic in nature, and decency compels one to admit that a thing like some MINIMUM level of health care for the elderly, poor, etc. are necessary.to a good society.

As for progressivism...well, it didn't even really exist in the US until the 20th century. But what a success story, huh? It's grown government, taxing and spending by orders of magnitude since it really took root in the 30s or so, and this with nothing really positive to show for it! I'm impressed by that success, if nothing else.
10:00 PM on 10/17/2010
Thefosterdad; Just in case you did not know this;the US constitution does in fact give a mandate to the government to make provisions for the common wellfare of the nation.

I agree that you should not be forced to purchace insurance for your self. If the Democrats would not have surrendered to the will of the Republicans,you would not have been forced to do so !

I would rather suffer from the indignities of a ''socialist utopia'' than live through the nightmare of a corporate orchestrated,survival of the fittest rat race to the demise of civillization.
04:17 PM on 10/17/2010
The so-called Tea Party is a means by which the money cartel manipulates angry folks to vote against their best interests. "Real Tea Party Begins Here!" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqL97afZydw
08:35 PM on 10/17/2010
I would suggest that it is the Tea Partiers themselves who should be the judge of what's in their best interests.
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OneFish
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08:35 PM on 10/18/2010
That sounds great but they appear to be unqualified - sad as this may be. They are too easily misdirected by the propaganda machinery that does not have their best interests at heart.
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02:58 PM on 10/17/2010
The only way the DEMS will come with something stronger than chopsticks are when they get good and tired of loud, ignorant know-nothing candidates. Even after all they've done in the past 2 years, we're still not tired of them yet. In fact, we're supposedly drained and exhausted of defending the President and the Dems in Congress. Yes, the leadership is part of the problem, but so are the Dem activists and so are the Dem voters. If we cannot keep our coalition together for longer than 2 years, then we deserve to have the baggers.
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Bogstomper2
A secular conservative
02:44 PM on 10/17/2010
Here's the timeline as I see it:

1994 to 2000. People like me walk precincts and work phone banks telling our fellow citizens that a Republican government will be smaller, more cost-efficient, and it will give us greater freedom.

2001 to 2006. Republican government proves to be the exact opposite of what we promised. Government size and spending increase, just as they have for decades. America pulls the plug on Republican control of Congress.

2008. America pulls the plug on Republican control of the White House.

2008. The Tea Party erupts in fury over government spending and an imaginary socialist takeover of the country. The Tea Party rejects the GOP establishment and swears that they are for smaller government, fiscal responsibility, and more freedom, which is the same platform the GOP offers. Tea Partiers pretend they are the only ones who *ever* noticed that government is wasteful. They begin stacking modifiers when discussing the left, e.g. "liberal socialist marxist communists." They memorize several quotes so they can pretend to have "read the Founding Fathers."

This is why I can't get behind the Tea Party. They pretend to be a revival of American patriotism, but in fact they're just Republicans who don't want to take responsibility for what happened under Bush and a Republican Congress.
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03:09 PM on 10/17/2010
Add the Dems who are bought and sold on the idea that corporations will get us all lucky charms, rainbows and unicorns and I totally agree with you.
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Bogstomper2
A secular conservative
03:20 PM on 10/17/2010
Cool. I'm always happy to throw a few Democrats in my criticism blender. But these days, I'm more interested in trying to restore a rational conservative movement.
05:30 PM on 10/17/2010
The one actual tea partier I personally know who has gone to an event has your same history from 1994 to 1998. That's WHY he's involved. He's a repub who's pissed at the repubs for not acting like repubs. If the repubs actually did what they were supposedly going to do when they had power, the tea party never would have materialized, I don't think. Especially if they had focused one fiscal instead of social issues, which only serve to divide the repubs and unite the dems against them.

I don't view the tea party as being about a revival of American patriotism, though they certainly are patriotic when they show public dissent against political issues that are important to them. But I view them more as a group of people who have noticed the financial cliff we're rushing toward, and have noticed that both parties have their foot on the gas (dems much harder than repubs, but still). And nobody seems to care where the brakes are, never mind the reverse gear.

The tea partiers don't know exactly how the train works, but they know it can't go on like it is for long. So they're trying to figure it out enough to help stop it.
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yweston
Wild Wild "Proud to Be a Progressive" West
08:21 AM on 10/18/2010
So...they plan to stop it by voting in more Republicans and re-electing the same Republicans who caused the problem. While they rail against all Dems....Yeah!! that sounds like a plan. BTW the Tea Party is sucking up more "Corporate money" than both conventional Parites. And there will be a payday for their benefactors..
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Margery Kempe
Raised by wolves. Phd in
12:23 PM on 10/17/2010
I posted part of this as a reply to a poster that said that there were no corporation in the colonial era. I am going to re-iterate it here, as it is such a basic historical point. Massachusetts Bay Company? Virgina Company? You bet there were corporations.The first colonies were incorporated albeit into corporations that folded after the one goal was complete. They were not all the immortal conglomorates so common today. As for limited government aspirations of the founders... Some of the founders wished for limited government, to a fault, as the articles of Confederate would have resulted in the nation shattering into a dozen squabbling parts. George Washington, Hamilton, Madison, Jay, Adams, hell, the 1787 constitutional convention had been so frustrated by our inability to fund, or even pay the continental army or govern or even tax for the very basics that they created our constitution. Thomas Paine was against the constitution and bill of Rights. The founders were not monoliths, and to use them as such carries the same semantic fog as "The People."
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Kache
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01:08 PM on 10/17/2010
Corporations did indeed exist. The Boston Tea Party was not a rebellion against the Crown, it was a rebellion against a tax favoring the world's largest corporation - the British East India Company.

Adam Smith's Wealth of Nations, published in 1776, argued that corporations should never be allowed to exist beyond 50 years, and advocated breaking up the East India Company as an example of a corporation that had "captured" the parliament which had created it.

Smith argued that a corporation's charter should spell out the task the corporation was chartered to accomplish to achieve it's contribution to the "wealth of the nation" and should be disbanded after accomplishing that task or for wandering from the goal of providing for the "wealth of the nation".
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03:11 PM on 10/17/2010
It's amazing how far we have come yet how much things remain the same.
Berettasskeeter
For what we are about to receive, may we be truly
04:12 PM on 10/17/2010
The tax on Tea was instituted because Americans found different sources. The British Crown instituted rules that the colony could only buy tea from Britain, and then added excessive taxes on it. It was a money-maker for the Crown, not protection for the East India Company.
Semper fi
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68Namvet
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11:51 AM on 10/17/2010
I guess my biggest problem with the Tea Party group is why they claim to be for fiscal responsibility, smaller government, against bail outs and deficit spending and then align themselves with the republican party and conservatives that have consistently demonstrated they are fiscally irresponsible, always increase the size and scope of government, were the architects of the bail outs and of the previous 12 administrations - only 3 (Reagan, Bush 1 and Bush 2) increased the national debt as a % of GDP.

It's a lot like claiming you are pro law and order and running out to join a local street gang - but, then, you can't make sense out of nonsense!
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yweston
Wild Wild "Proud to Be a Progressive" West
11:58 AM on 10/17/2010
They're "clueless". Apparently they need another "dose" of Rethug policy making... I am amused at them...
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03:15 PM on 10/17/2010
Keep in mind that the concept of cognitive dissonance is solidly at work here. There is a whole universe of disinformation constantly dispelled on radio and TV that seems to draw this group of people. They don't reference any other information or form opinions based on further study. There are those who should know better but follow along anyway. Every so often one of the smart ones wake up when conflicting information or reality sets in.
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Bogstomper2
A secular conservative
03:33 PM on 10/17/2010
"Keep in mind that the concept of cognitive dissonance is solidly at work here."

You mean like calling Obama a communist and then painting a Hitler mustache on his picture? That always seemed kind of dissonant to me.
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Margery Kempe
Raised by wolves. Phd in
04:53 PM on 10/17/2010
yes- and this is where cowardly dems have really failed us. Rather that helping to change the narrative by pointing out the very real accomplishments of this administration, they either ignore them, dismiss them, or distance themselves from them. The death panel narrative should have been immediately put to rest. If your going to be a Dem, act like it. If you are going to sell out your values to accommodate false narratives rather than telling the truth and making a stand, what on earth are you in government for.
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Darrick Ensey
Obama 2012!
11:05 AM on 10/17/2010
The TEA Party's mottow should just read "WE ARE HYPOCRITES"
1. They claim to believe government should stay out of health care, while receiving government health care.
2. They believe we should create jobs by passing tax cuts, while forgetting that 'W' did that, and well we are still living with the effects.
3. They rail against large corporations and excesses, yet fail to understand that is the very thing that funds their "movement"...
4. They constantly speak about the financial burden that will be placed on future generations, yet so long as the government funds their entitlements, it doesn't matter how much it cost.
5. They are the same people who criticized Barack Obama for lacking experience when he ran for President, yet are throwing into office the craziest, least experienced candidates known to man, and worship at the feet of the quitter from Alaska known as Sarah Palin...
08:32 PM on 10/17/2010
Sigh. I'm not a tea partier, but I sympathize with them and I've bothered to learn some of their minds.

1) That's not a contradiction. I'm currently unemployed, and would LOVE it if they would cut off about 3/4 of unemployment benefits. They distort the labor market horribly. But hey, I worked for 25 years without a break...might as well suck up some of the newly-created money that progressives seem to think I deserve for not doing anything. Maybe I'll just keep doing it for the 80 or so more weeks of my eligibility.

2) Most tea partiers don't harp on tax cuts. That's mostly establishment repubs. The tea partiers are more concerned with cutting spending, getting the budget under control, and THEN cutting taxes, if possible. And they HATE medicare part D.

3) I have seen very little evidence that large corporations fund the tea party. And anyway, I have nothing against large corporations as long as they follow the law.

4) After those 25 years of work (and paying the max for SS for most of it), I would opt out of getting any benefits at all when I retire if they would just stop taking 7.5 percent of my salary off the top, and relieve my employer(s) of their 7.5 percent share so they can give it to me as a bonus instead.

5) Meh. The tea party didn't really take a stand on Obama's experience level. That was the repubs.
01:31 PM on 10/18/2010
thefosterdad, it is refreshing to read posts from someone who is capable of seeing a perspective other than their own, and who is able to converse in a rational, respectful way. Thank you.
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Darrick Ensey
Obama 2012!
10:48 AM on 10/17/2010
Time and time again we have told ourselves, "Be the CHANGE you want to see."
I am begging each and everyone of you, to get out and vote... be the change. I realize, Obama and the Democrat's haven't met every challenge with precision, they haven't ended DADT, they didn't pass a perfect health care bill, among other half-baked successes. If you want DADT to last another decade, if you want Islomophobia and Homophobia to define your generation, and if you want corporations running rampant with your future retirement funds, then by all means sit out and don't VOTE... but if you want a party in power that fights for you, if you want a prosperous future where your children will live in a more advanced, more civil and more diversified America then do your civic duty and VOTE....
We can't let secret money and socially divisive issues re-energize the uneducated right... stand up for what is right, show up for what is necessary and BE the CHANGE you want!
08:25 AM on 10/17/2010
I support a Federal government much smaller and much less expensive than our current one. My starting point would be to roll spending back to 2006 levels except for SS, Medicare, National Defense, and Homeland Security. I would then freeze spending at these levels until revenue caught up with these spending levels and the budget was balanced. I also support the continuation of the Bush tax cuts for everyone since I believe that enough of those evil "quarter-millionaire" that "can afford a tax increase" are in fact small business owners and we are better leaving that money in their pockets so that they can grow their businesses with it.

These two beliefs have made me a Republican, but as others have commented here, one disgusted with the recent performance of the Republican party on spending. Therefore I am a supporter (but not yet a member) of the Tea Party.

If you look at the demographics of who is actually "in" the Tea Party you will find that it is not just Republicans. It is people from the entire political spectrum who are united around the beliefs in constrained Fed spending, private sector growth and low taxes - and the belief that Obama/Pelosi/Reid have gone too far down the opposite road t the detriment of our economy and our county. I would venture to say that 60% of Americans are of this belief and it would be wise not to marginalize us.
09:48 AM on 10/17/2010
Your speech sounds good but won't work because you don't know the facts. Most of our taxes, 65% goes to SS, Medicare, National Defense, Homeland Security, with a small % going to other spending of which you want to cut. That would cut education, welfare, food stamps and other programs to help people during hard times. That is not a good plan. You Republicans want to rein in spending but we waste more money on Defense and make planes and other things that are not used especially when we are fighting a ground war. Even if you cut all other spending except the 4 you would not cut, you couldn't balance the budget. The answer is to cut those tax cuts for the rich, making over 250K that has cost us 1.2Trillion over the 10 years with Bush. If those tax cuts were so good and create so many jobs, I ask you, where are the jobs? Those tax cuts are still in place and haven't created jobs! They have come at a tremendous cost. I don't know any mom and pops that employ a small number of workers, that make over 250K. They don't! Theses tax cuts favor those making over 1M and they don't need them. You want to rein in spending but are clueless on how to do it. Same old Bush plan that didn't work for 8 years and you guys want to try it again!
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danceswithtrees
10:48 AM on 10/17/2010
Wee EVERYBODY knows the Obama plan didn't do so hot. What we need is private sector jobs. NOT temporary Government jobs.
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12:22 PM on 10/17/2010
I am fanning you for being clear and debunking the aimless Republican mantra of overspending. I have not met one person espousing spending cuts that really understands the likely impact of trying to save our way back to prosperity. They worry about leaving our children with huge debt, but they don't understand that cutting spending now would be a near certain way to leave them with soup lines. Rush and Beck don't tell them that. I know that Mr. Harzog meant well with his proposal, but he is woefully misinformed when it comes to an understanding of macroeconomics. It's one thing for a country like Greece or Ireland to cut spending like they did with catastrophic consequences, but a country like the USA with tremendous resources and assets will always be better off pushing the assets by creating jobs no matter how much you have to borrow. It would sound and work much better if we changed the narrative to "Investing In America" as opposed to "spending".
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yweston
Wild Wild "Proud to Be a Progressive" West
12:02 PM on 10/17/2010
You are going to be "highly" dissappointed. But....your faith in the Republican Party sounds good. If it was only true..
12:24 AM on 10/17/2010
Present-day liberal, progressive agenda-dedicated rhetoric is actually "much ado about nothing". Your claims of "hope and change" have not materialized. They have deteriorated into personal power and narcissistic elitism that has been exposed despite the best efforts of the lame-stream media's protective barriers. The only change has been the characters on the stage - political maneuvering reminiscent of LBJ's days; misrepresentations that make FDR, Nixon and Bill Clinton envious; and Chicagoland politics to make the Daleys proud.
The liberal idealistic society is unsustainable because equal mediocrity and huge federal government/bureaucracy cannot operate without taxes from those unwilling to settle for mediocrity. Eventually, ever increasing government/bureaucracy waste devours tax money faster than even scheming liberal politicians can collect it.
What the liberal Democrat-supporting columnists and not-so-objective (so called) journalists fail to recognize is that Conservatives will not sit back and let our free markets be destroyed. The continued deficit spending and failure to address private sector employment are factual records and abject failures that liberal Democrats cannot hide from no matter how much Obama, Biden, Pelosi and their pocket puppets try to deflect and re-route. Conservatives are involved more than since WWII, and now we have our own revision to "politics as usual" barreling down the track. There is infinitely more here than the Tea Party. If Lefties prepare for a "knife fight", know they will see pitch forks.
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Jeremy Janson
A right-populist Industrial Engineer.
02:27 AM on 10/17/2010
I miss the old-time Labor Union liberals. Whatever happened to them? They actually got stuff done, they respected the rights and opinions of the people, they knew how to argue even though these new liberals are (supposedly, though they sure don't act it) better educated. They also really believed in their country, in humanity, in technology, in all the things a progressive should believe in. And they believed in the people. What happened to them?
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03:46 PM on 10/17/2010
They don't get air time. You'll find a few of them on the radio.
03:15 AM on 10/17/2010
Fanned and faced!
12:13 AM on 10/17/2010
Ms. Kelly, you are so terribly mistaken if you believe that you and your ilk will be taking over and re-branding the Tea Party movement.

It's not some club that you join with two million of your friends so that you can vote the original members out. It's millions of dissatisfied voters who want the government to stop spending so much that our grandchildren will never be able to pay it off.

The only way you will stop this movement is by out-voting them on election day. (I don't see it happening)
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reliure
07:44 AM on 10/17/2010
ms. kelly doesn't have "ilk" she has people that agree with sanity as she seems to.
01:16 PM on 10/17/2010
ilk (noun)

Definition of ILK
: sort, kind

You seem to be of Ms. Kelly's ilk too.
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danceswithtrees
10:51 AM on 10/17/2010
The reason they CAN'T vote the Tea party out is THEIR ideas of big Government are done.
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realitytrumpsbull
two 'alves of coconut!
11:55 PM on 10/16/2010
I LIKE the Tea Party. They at least show some enthusiasm, and a departure from the regular hum-drum battles, mainly over money. And, maybe if the tricorns field a viable candidate that can pass a drug test, I might even vote for em. But, they have to be as good as Obama, or no dice. Same goes for the Republicans, or anyone else out there 'in the running'. We need quality folks stepping up to hold the jobs directly involved in running this country, and I think by having more honest competition in the political arena, we'll get closer to having just that. Enough with friends, buddies, cousins, and in-laws, and political careerists that change direction with the prevailing winds, this country's trillions in debt, and that's not a situation that's going to rectify itself accidentally.
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Jeremy Janson
A right-populist Industrial Engineer.
12:04 AM on 10/17/2010
Thank you for an extremely thoughtful comment.
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danceswithtrees
10:53 AM on 10/17/2010
"Good as Obama?" HE is why there IS a Tea party. Big spending liberals. Now he's gone a stirred the hornets nest.
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yweston
Wild Wild "Proud to Be a Progressive" West
11:42 AM on 10/17/2010
Apparently you missed Bush's Big spending ways.. Tea Party exist because of the President's skin color...
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tdpubs
Content publisher for small business marketing
03:50 PM on 10/17/2010
Where were you for the last 30 something years? Did you read any of the previous posts? Please take a break from right wing radio for a month and just do some research on our national debt. It is an amazing story.