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The Inherent Unfairness of No Fault Divorce When You are Married to a Jerk

Posted: 08/23/11 01:07 PM ET

You have heard the stories. You may have even lived it. A couple divorces and one side gets, not only injured, but insulted as well. No Fault Divorce is a child of the 70's. When people needed to prove fault to obtain a divorce it presented a number of problems. Some in intolerable circumstances couldn't get one because the peculiar sort of pain they were in did not fall into a statutory category. Or all involved became entangled in some legal fiction, picking a category the court would recognize and forcing the facts to fit.

In the 70's with the growing adoption of No Fault Divorce, many of those difficulties dissipated, and the divorce rate soared. Unhappy people uncoupled at an unprecedented rate. But all of that came at a cost. Blinded to fault, the system lost sight of some of the realities of marriage. Though most (but not all) states have statutes that allow the judge to consider "such other facts as justice required" in determining asset division and support determinations, no fault is at the core of the courts' determinations. That, I believe, has prompted some very bad results.

The stories are as varied as the number of jerks there are in the world. A husband works and supports the family. His wife runs around with the pool guy. When they separate he still has to give her half of everything and pay her alimony, essentially forced to support both the wife that cuckolded him and the bum with whom she did it.

Or a wife who is the sole breadwinner comes home to her unemployed husband who assuages his sense of failure by riding her like a horse. She is to cook, clean and cater to him (that lets him feel like he's still a man) while he contributes little if anything at all. But when it's time to go, all of that nothing he did in the home doesn't matter. The debts are mutual, the alimony is payable and the insult never goes away.

This brings us to the concept of Marital Misconduct that more states have begun to embrace. Marital Misconduct is defined differently in each but generally it is conduct that "undermines the marital relationship." It is not, however, simply garden variety bad behavior. Marital Misconduct encompasses fairly egregious acts such as spending money on extra marital relationships or an addiction of some kind.

Most states that do recognize it do so only when that behavior has direct economic consequences. For instance, if a spouse gambles away a portion of the couple's income or spends money in the pursuit and maintenance of an extra marital affair, that will be taken into consideration in the division of property and/or the amount of alimony to be awarded.

Some states go beyond that though and statutorily outline behavior that will be considered as marital misconduct even when the economic cause and effect isn't as clear. They include things like habitual drunkenness or addiction, adultery, domestic violence, or cruel and abusive behavior.

Unfortunately, not every state is on board. Some have statutorily determined that Marital Misconduct should not be taken into consideration in either the award of alimony or division of property. The rationale? Clarity and consistency. The result? Insult on top of injury.

Don't misunderstand me, I don't believe the court system should be required to sift through the mire of every bad act one spouse has visited on another. The system is not design to nor should it be the arbiter of hurt feelings. Besides, the evidentiary complications of that kind of thing are enormous. Proceedings would become protracted, painful and in the end totally indecipherable.

A court, however, can address the big wrongs and I think they should be required to do so. I think Marital Misconduct should be considered by every court, but they can't do it until their state legislatures permit it. I think we should make it a point to make that point with them. Yes, it will make things a bit more difficult for the court but I think it is lazy to punt on the issue. Lady justice should indeed be blind in that your access to justice should not depend on who you are. But she should not be deaf and dumb as well. People out to be held to account for what they do especially when you're asking someone else to pay for it.

 
You have heard the stories. You may have even lived it. A couple divorces and one side gets, not only injured, but insulted as well. No Fault Divorce is a child of the 70's. When people needed to ...
You have heard the stories. You may have even lived it. A couple divorces and one side gets, not only injured, but insulted as well. No Fault Divorce is a child of the 70's. When people needed to ...
 
 
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05:21 PM on 08/26/2011
In a perfect world, the no fault concept was to minimize trauma to children...make the process "civilized". Did it work....No. People are as crazy as ever...no one is ever satisfied with a contested divorce action....."he dumped her and took up with a younger woman" "she bankrupted him and never lets him see his children"...sound familiar? the only thing that has changed over the past years is the attorney fees...they got even higher. Remember when lawyers were called "counselors at law" ..they actually tried to counsel people. In today's world, it seems as though attorneys ask for things...even if unreasonable: married 3 years and want alimony? No problem, we'll ask the judge.
Want sole custody...because....well just because...no problem, we'll put it in the petition.
Let the judge decide. Who is talking sense to these people???
10:18 AM on 08/26/2011
Oh boy! Another argument to loose.

Does Ms. Toler advocate a post Marriage "Death Penalty" as well?

How would a judge quantify a "sexless Marriage"?
Years spent together "for the sake of the Children"?
Spousal Obesity?
Alcoholism?
What penalty or quantifiable compensation for years of illness resulting in one spouse sacrificing for the sake of the other?
Will underemployment become a crime as well?

At what point will the phrase "for better or for worse" be taken seriously?
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Ed Baker
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07:09 AM on 08/26/2011
I can name five women in my extended family who cheated on their husbands for years, then found a boyfriend they wanted to keep, divorced the hubby, took the house, both cars, half of his money, and got paid alimony and child support afterward. All five now live with their new boyfriends and live well on their alimony, child support, and divorce settlements.

Divorce pays well.

Of course, the lives of their children are ruined, but hey what does that matter.
02:35 PM on 08/24/2011
cafebeege - this still does not justify a million or multi-million dollar payout. Damage to a woman's body from childbirth and age can be ameliorated for $10's of thousands of dollars - tummy tuck, kegelcisor, gym memberships, massage, personal trainer, laser hair removal, botox, hair dye. Damage to a career - after you are back in work force with a few years experience - how much less do you really make in most occupations compared to those with 10 or 20 years experience - probably no more than some 10's of thousands of dollars less than you would be worth if you had worked straight through. "damages" from child bearing and not working simply do not justify million+ dollar payouts.
12:52 PM on 08/24/2011
Letting marital conduct become a factor of divorce settlement will provide an incentive for dishonesty during a divorce. The game changes to who can lie the most, or produce the most convincing story.
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02:09 AM on 08/25/2011
Each partner trying to prove the other partner is the 'bad guy' is extremely bad for the children, especially when all the relatives on both sides are dragged into court as witnesses. It's a little hard to get over Grandma going on and on in court about what a horrible person you are and let her come to little Billy's birthday party. I do support work in law in a 'split it down the middle' state and I've seen vicious battles where fights over who's 'wrong' that have not only resulted in both families and all the former friends being forced to chose sides, but upset all the neighbors, just about caused the former church to disband and dragged in the cops. Guess how all that affects the children caught in the middle!
10:52 AM on 08/26/2011
It is the divorce lawyers who know better but essentially engage in profiteering by aggravating if not causing conflict in a divorce.

A sound negotiated divorce results in legal fees of less than $5,000 total.

A contested divorce can produce legal fees of $80,000 or well beyond that.

In a bad economy, divorce lawyers need to keep their profits up.

If you have identifable/liquidatable assets in your marital estate -- and children -- beware. The divorce lawyers will figure out a way to get a sizable chunk of your assets into their pockets.

Figure out what you want in your divorce. Do your own research. Be reasonable. Be your own advocate. Negotiate for yourself. Even if you have a divorce lawyer.
08:40 AM on 08/25/2011
Marriage is a contract.

Natural Law tells us it's the union which establishes the contract. There are only two ways to exit this contract, 1) death. or 2) through a breach of contract (entering into union with another).

If a spouse has been found in breach of contract, they have departed and the other spouse may file for a just divorce. If breach of contract has not occurred, a spouse may still file for divorce, but they assume the breach of contract and are correctly viewed as the one who departed.

Therefore, any unbecoming conduct outside of a breach of contract by a spouse is not grounds for divorce. Though it may be grounds for separation. If the spouse who no longer loves the other, will not own it and confess their breach of contract, if one occurred, or assume the guilt of such a breach by filing for divorce themselves, then there is no easy way to navigate around those bitter waters.

Legislatively, if you are filing for divorce, you enter the court with proof (confession, testimony of two or more, indisputable evidence) of a breach by the other spouse or a settlement including a custody plan else custody is awarded to the non-filing spouse as the court deems them as not in breach of the marriage contract.
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Zalkreb
11:21 AM on 08/24/2011
"People out (sic) to be held to account for what they do especially when you're asking someone else to pay for it."

Indeed. Let's start by having women held accountable for initiating three times as many divorces as men. Divorce is, to a rough approximation, a female phenomenon, similar to the way sexual assault is a male phenomenon.

Ladies, it's simple, although admittedly a bit scary. What you do is stand up and say this:

"Nobody else in this family wanted a divorce. I did. I got it. I'm happier and healthier. Nobody else is."

Taking responsibility for your freely chosen actions is part of being an adult citizen who is the equal of anybody. Blaming society, culture, your upbringing and -- the all-time favorite -- whatever man happens to be in the vicinity, is not.

It takes two to make a marriage but only one to end it. That one, the overwhelming majority if the time, is the female partner. You do it. You own it. Get off that river in Egypt and take a stand.
10:14 PM on 08/24/2011
A truth worth repeating "It takes two to make a marriage but only one to end it.". I suppose it allows those who divorce for no just fault to ease their conscience and sleep at night, especially if, and after, they have taken your property (children) while extorting money from you every month for the cost of maintenance.

To contrive that somehow the other spouse assumes the guilt, albeit a portion of it, provides a basis to the courts for allowing them access to property they have relinquished their rights to. Natural law dictates, the one who departs relinquishes their right to the property they have departed from. In a no "just" fault divorce, the departing spouse has relinquished their rights to parent their seed.

You hit this one head on. Let's those who participate in a no just fault divorce STAND UP and say, as you state "Nobody else in this family wanted a divorce. I did. I got it. I'm happier and healthier." and if not, may our courts say if for them.

It's their liberty to depart. I do not want to hold anyone "hostage" who wanted to leave, though I agree, it's time for them to OWN it!

Instead of owning it and departing, they contrive consequences (divorce) to actions (irreconcilable differences: it's your fault I'm not happy, you no longer want what I want) not deserving of them, that they might depart and take property that is no longer theirs.
11:20 AM on 08/24/2011
The author left out the fact that no-fault divorces were also established to protect children of divorce. It doesn't do the children any good to have both (or one) of their parents drug through the mud in a courtroom. Neither spouse is innocent in a divorce. Sometimes you may be married to a jerk (I was!) but it was your own bad judgment that got you into the mess to begin with. If a marriage ends, move on and don't worry about who "caused" it.
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timbeaux
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01:15 PM on 08/24/2011
I'm happy to be your first fan.
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kmchafin
12:43 PM on 08/25/2011
Stargazer, I disaagree based on my own experience, of course. I married a good man and the first 15 years of our marriage of 20 years were good. But about the 15 year mark, the good huband became the jerk...How do you account for people who change? Sometimes one spouse IS to blame and the other innocent. My ex began an affair and I tried everything I could to keep the marriage together (not knowing of affair) while he was skiming funds from our finances to the tune of $100,000. He had a plan to move on to his "next life" No Fault did nothing to protect my children...they were drug through the wringer anyway when my ex near the end of our divorce court threatened to ask for full custody unless I signed over many rights...It tore my kids apart...Until I gave my ex all the money and he dropped the custody of the kids like a rocket.

If my marriage was like a business contract, my partner would not have been able to embezzel corporate funds without consequences. In my case, the funds my ex skimmed were noted but never counted -prior to our divorce filing -(HE FILED), so in the end he got the money, I got the debts and the kids....Took me 10 years to "move on". If we were not married, my ex's actions would have been criminal and he would have been in jail.
09:30 AM on 08/24/2011
Let the unbeliever in the marriage depart. For the hardness of our hearts divorce was given as a provision for sin NOT to sin. The "sin" is not loving your spouse.

Yet, we do not allow divorce to truly occur, we keep couples bound by time, by shared custody, by finances. In essence we have legislated the putting away of our former spouse. We have instituted a type of polygamy.

There is no value is staying with one who does not love you or staying with one you do not love. That is a faux marriage. Please, I do not want the "love" of one if I have to hold the proverbial gun to their head. Let them go, and let them go completely.

If the one you are with is not pleased to dwell with you, and they want to go, let them go. It would serve us well to return to Wisdom....Let the unbeliever depart, you are no longer bound and neither are they.
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belle27
08:45 AM on 08/24/2011
Sigh. Yes, I see your points. And to an extent, I agree. Except that bringing in/back the "fault" and blame in divorce proceedings, I am convinced, will cause bitter or vindictive people (or simply the selfish and self-serving ones) to lie and accuse their ex-spouse of abominable things so as to get more. It happens enough in custody cases to make it obvious it would be even worse if no-fault didn't exist.
01:37 AM on 08/24/2011
Lawyers are salivating.
01:28 AM on 08/24/2011
No doubt. There are terrible men, terrible women in all marriages. Sometimes both people are coo-coo...

Ask this fundamental question, because the statistic's don't lie. More than 50% of marriages are failing. 2nd marriages are even worse. Nearly 80% of divorces are started by women.

Yet, from studies about infidelity, it's about 50/50. So the issue of cheating in marriage swings both ways; however, the perception is the man usually cheated.

If the statistics for who intiated the divorce, I could believe outside factors are not at play with divorces. It has become all too obvious, that divorce has financial motivations for many parties.

Maybe we should be honest and either stop getting married and engage in yearly contracts with pre-engagement agreements over any children born or we should add something to the marriage vows...'Till Death do us part or I get sick of the sob/b'
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Zalkreb
04:13 PM on 08/25/2011
To the extent financial gain motivates divorce, I suspect it is almost entirely present on the female side. "It's cheaper to keep her" is folk wisdom with more than a grain of truth behind it. In many ways, divorce is primarily an asset grab with one party initiating divorce in order to gain exclusive control over half or more of the family's financial assets, the family home and, the most precious -- beyond price, really -- asset of all, the kids.

Women, divorced and otherwise, are constantly complaining about not getting compensated enough for the housework they do (most of which they do on their own initiative as part of a competition with other women, as opposed to at the urging of or to please their husbands). I'd like to see them put a price tag on their kids.

What would it be worth to to you to shoved to the fringes of your children's lives, to go from being an involved parent who reads them to sleep every night and drives in the car pool and helps with homework, to suddenly being something more like a grandparent or aunt, who sees the children every now and then.

What is your price on that one, ladies?

Because the vast majority of divorced fathers are paying it with their hearts, souls and, yes, their lives every single day of the year. Money? This isn't about money. It's about child-stealing.
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WSAY
Res ipsa loquitur
09:37 PM on 08/23/2011
Apparently, divorce is not messy enough for some people. Now people want to make it even more difficult to get divorced. They want private investigators to get involved, and let's bring in friends and coworkers to testify about what the spouse supposedly said, or did.

The purpose of no-fault divorce is to make divorce simpler, faster, and cheaper. Many of the simpleminded out here believe that eliminating no-fault divorce would somehow get them off the hook with regard alimony. Fact is, if you tell your average ex-husband that he can get out of alimony and all he has to do is light himself on fire, he'll do it.
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kmchafin
12:50 PM on 08/25/2011
I had a no fault divorce...it lasted 3 1/2 years in court...where do you think it makes divorce, easier, faster or cheaper....My lawyer is driving a new Mercedes with the money I paid for my No Fault Divorce
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WSAY
Res ipsa loquitur
10:06 AM on 08/26/2011
If your divorce tool 3.5 years, it is your own fault. As for your lawyer, lawyers get paid for their services. If you think being a lawyer is so great, borrow a quarter of a million dollars and go to college and law school.
08:16 PM on 08/23/2011
indie mom - how come you don't have 1/2 the retirement/pension and he has 1/2 the house but pays enough in child support to cover the mortgage? When the youngest child is emancipated - you both sell the house and split the profits? And when you are 62 you can collect 1/2 of his social security. And when you are 59 1/2 you can start collecting on the retirement plan if you chose to.
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kmchafin
12:54 PM on 08/25/2011
shann,...It doesn't work out that way always in court...after a 20 plus year marriage, in a No Fault state I did not get half of my ex's retirement/pension.....it was a calculation that resulted in my getting $4,000 of a $200,000 pension and the $4k was split over payments of 2 years....I did get half the debts however.
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06:26 PM on 08/23/2011
I agree with the article. State legislations should either:

a) Tie Alimony awards (or lack thereof) to marital conduct.
b) If option (a) is deemed unfeasible or too time consuming for the courts, then eliminate Alimony altogether

An excellent article. Balanced, fair, and gender-neutral too.Thank you for reaffirming my belief in our legal system Judge Toler. BTW - I love your TV show.
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WSAY
Res ipsa loquitur
09:34 PM on 08/23/2011
As for the law used to be. Private investigators made a fortune. There were constantly sneaking around in the bushes hoping to get pictures of one of the spouses cheating on the other.
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D. A. Wolf
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06:15 PM on 08/23/2011
While I think in some scenarios this is a step in the right direction, it remains that for many, whatever the result, the piece of paper is unenforceable.

When exes move to another state, when there is an extreme difference in economic power between the two, when legal services are not available but nor can one party afford the $5,000 retainer (and many thousands to follow) - I say again - we have unenforceable pieces of paper.

Even if the paper takes into account "bad behavior."

Worse behavior? Worse insult? The ability for the offending party to sidestep the consequences.

How do we solve that?