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Gay Controversy Is Not About the Food

Posted: 08/06/2012 2:50 pm

This is not about chicken. And it's not about cake. It's not about free speech, and it's not about the Bible. This is about fear, and prejudice, and bigotry. This is about basic human decency.

Back in the early 1900s, women were discriminated against. We couldn't vote. We weren't encouraged to become educated, or to work for pay. Our role was defined by the husband, the children, and the home. If our husbands beat us, if our dates abused us, we kept silent, because that's what was done. All of this, simply because we were born female.

Back in the mid-1900s, black people were discriminated against. They were forced to go different schools than white people, to use different drinking fountains, to sit, most famously, at the back of the bus. The KKK sent its "message" of death with some regularity in its ongoing effort to show the blacks who was boss. They could marry each other, but they couldn't marry someone white. All of this, simply because they were born black.

Back in the mid-1980s, my uncle was still closeted because it was not in his best interest, economically or socially, to be openly gay. When he became ill with the AIDS virus, he was attacked on the sidewalk in his cushy Upper West Side neighborhood because the sores on his face, in his attackers' minds, confirmed his homosexuality -- therefore giving them free reign to beat the daylights out of him.

Hate crimes against gay people are still rampant; bullying of gay children has lead to beatings, murders and suicides. All of this, simply because they were born gay.

Those who base their prejudice on the Bible's teachings are cherry-picking their beliefs, which I would suggest invalidates them. Until we see, for example, Mitt Romney selling everything he owns and giving the money to the poor, which the Bible instructs, his use of the Bible to deny gay marriage will never be valid. Christians are also taught that God created us in His image ... and I doubt that He meant a white heterosexual male.

Those who suggest that gay marriage will destroy traditional marriage and "family values" are out of touch with the current culture. Our society is awash in single-parent households, multiple marriages/divorces, child abuse and spousal abuse. In fact, if I were gay, I'm not sure I would even want a "traditional marriage" as opposed to a civil union with the same legal/economic benefits. But that's me.

And those who suggest that gay people being allowed to marry will lead to people marrying their pets ... don't even warrant a response.

If Mr. Cathy of Chick-fil-A had suggested that he didn't believe in women in the work force, or that African-Americans deserved equal rights, he'd be taken to task. If Mr. Philips of Masterpiece Cake Shop chose not to make a wedding cake for a white woman marrying an African-American man, he would be taken to task.

So it's not about the chicken and the cake. It's about civil rights -- human rights -- and simply doing the right thing.

 
 
 

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This is not about chicken. And it's not about cake. It's not about free speech, and it's not about the Bible. This is about fear, and prejudice, and bigotry. This is about basic human decency. Back i...
This is not about chicken. And it's not about cake. It's not about free speech, and it's not about the Bible. This is about fear, and prejudice, and bigotry. This is about basic human decency. Back i...
 
 
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10:55 PM on 08/06/2012
Oh give me a break w/the tyical liberal overreaction!!! I used to read your posts but now....? Don't buy into Puffington mentality! Let's see if this get's posted!
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Tortuga62
Progressive Christian is NOT an oxymoron
01:22 AM on 08/10/2012
[typical liberal overreaction]

That's what many people said about the Suffrage Movement in the 1900s:

"The women's suffrage movement is only the small edge of the wedge, if we allow women to vote it will mean the loss of social structure and the rise of every liberal cause under the sun. Women are well represented by their fathers, brothers, and husbands."-- Winston Churchill

and the Civil Rights Movement in the 1960s:

Sen. Jesse Helms (R--N.Carolina) said the civil rights movement was infested by communists and "moral degenerates."

"The Civil Rights Commission should never have been brought into existence. It has been most prejudiced in its viewpoint, and has fomented trouble and racial disturbance since its inception. It should be abolished, not extended." --John Sparkman (D-AL)

Some day soon many people will regret that they were on the wrong side of history on the gay civil rights issue.
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BOBinPS
Really?
07:39 PM on 08/06/2012
This is all about religion; about theocracy. Without the christian right and middle, the modern GOP would be a historical footnote. The recent Koch bros pandering just reinforces the obvious.
07:14 PM on 08/06/2012
The right thing is to provide the cultural support that will maximize the likelihood that a family will be lacking the positive influence of neither a mother nor a father. Research has continuously shown that children with involved fathers, on average, do better in school, have a greater motivation to succeed, have higher self-esteem and more confidence in unfamiliar settings, and are less like to be delinquent or abuse substances like drugs and alcohol. Deliberately leaving a father out has been one of the cultural trends most responsible for criminality and psychological dysfunction, and just adding an other mother is an illogical dismissal of what a father offers.
12:28 AM on 08/08/2012
Too bad none of the studies support it -- two-parent households produce pretty much the same results in all reputable studies whether they are father-mother, father-father, or mother-mother. Wishing won't make your slogans so.
08:21 AM on 08/08/2012
There's no such thing as a reputable study that discounts the significant difference between male and female behavior and psychology as it pertains to child rearing and everything else, since there's a whole new and burgeoning field, neuroscience, that shows conclusively otherwise. And right now, leaving fathers out of the equation is the biggest causative factor in social dysfunction there is.
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03:43 PM on 08/06/2012
Even Andrew Sullivan and Jon Stewart are upset about the fact that several mayors are telling CFA to stay out of their cities. I applaud these mayors. For D.Cathy to say so boldly "guilty as charged" is abhorrent. Does the bible say that being gay is wrong? If these people believe that God created all of us, then he also created people who are gay. How can people say that being gay is wrong or immoral? Gay bashers should be forced to spend a month living with... going to work, going home at the end of the day with a gay person. I would hope then that they would learn lots of things. They would learn to like him or her. They would learn how hurtful it is when people gay bash. They would then learn tolerance. It kills me to see the hateful, hurtful comments that people make in support of CFA. How ugly. How intolerant and how ugly. I saw a piece in the LA Times about Nabisco's Facebook posting with a photo of an oreo filled with a rainbow of creme in the middle. The Times posted the names of the people who said hateful things like "BYE BYE OREO! Why can't companies stay neutral on such things?" I hope the woman who posted that comment someday regrets that they published her name. Maybe we have to remove the word "gay" from the argument and just ask for equal rights for all.
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practiceempathy
Tolerance need not yield to willful ignorance.
04:08 PM on 08/06/2012
Mr. Cathy was being intentionally antagonistic.

It couldn't be any more obvious.

He picks Boston, of all places? Where the foundation of marriage equality was set?

That was deliberate, as his defiant "guilty as charged" will attest.

He MEANT to disrespect us, here in the Commonwealth, and he MEANT to manipulate the public via surface tones of civility.
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magpie1234
04:28 PM on 08/06/2012
I am wondering if Cathy created the controversy for publicity to get people to come out in droves to his restaurants. But then again... it could have backfired on him. I think that there are lots of people who will now boycott his restaurants but he probably knows that there are also lots of people out there who share his views and that this would bring business in from all the bigots. It's so very sad. My husband and I were married in a Catholic ceremony. He's Catholic. I'm not. I didn't really want to be married by a Catholic priest but I also didn't want my husband to miss out on one of his sacrements. So we compromised. I found a Catholic priest from a new order of the Catholic Church called the Old North American Catholic Church (vs. the Roman Catholic Church.) They believe that priests can be woman or gay (or even both!) They marry couples where only one is Catholic. They marry people in outdoor settings... not just in a church. Our priest is openly gay and I can't begin to tell you how much our guests loved him, loved his service, and loved our wedding. We'll be married a year in September. I can't imagine what it must be like for gay people to not be allowed to marry their partners. Being a newlywed, I feel for anyone who doesn't have the same rights that I have to marry someone I love.
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practiceempathy
Tolerance need not yield to willful ignorance.
02:59 PM on 08/06/2012
"Hate crimes against gay people are still rampant; bullying of gay children has lead to beatings, murders and suicides. All of this, simply because they were born gay."

To me, THIS is what the outrage is all about.

Mr. Cathy's stance is intellectually dishonest...in its civil tone.

Behind the scenes, Chick-Fil-A profits are going towards groups that CAUSE the aforementioned status quo.
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practiceempathy
Tolerance need not yield to willful ignorance.
02:55 PM on 08/06/2012
BRAVA!