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'Unskewed Polls' Critics Miss Basics Of Party Identification

Posted: 09/28/2012 6:46 pm

WASHINGTON -- Eight years ago this week, I launched a new blog on political polling with a post on party identification. At the time, many Democrats were up in arms over survey samples that seemed too Republican and were contending that if pollsters would adjust for the "apparent overrepresentation" of Republicans in their samples, Sen. John Kerry would be running a closer race against President George W. Bush.

Two presidential elections later, the argument over the partisan makeup of poll samples continues, only this time the roles are reversed. Now it's Republicans and conservative pundits railing against allegedly "skewed polls." This year's controversy has one new dimension: a website devoted to recalculating poll results to match a partisan composition more favorable to the Republicans (as well as the inevitable parody Twitter feed).

This year's critics would do well to revisit the lessons of 2004.

Then as now, an incumbent president saw a boost in his poll numbers following the party conventions, which coincided with a shift in party identification as measured by most national polls. On the same day I launched my blog, the Pew Research Center published a roundup of the changes in party identification on five major polls, all of which showed a net shift in the Republican direction.

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The average of the five polls from August 2004 had given Democrats a five percentage point advantage (37 to 32 percent) in party identification, but a month later Republicans were enjoying an average two-point edge (35 to 33 percent). Democratic critics voiced strong skepticism. A Republican edge ran counter to exit polls from prior elections and decades of previous surveys. The partisan composition of the electorate could not possibly change that much in such a short time, they argued.

But when President Bush won the election narrowly in November 2004, the final exit poll showed an even division of Democrats and Republicans (37 percent each). The party composition that the critics had deemed impossible had come to pass.

The apparent shift in party identification in the wake of the 2012 conventions has been relatively modest, no more than a percentage point or two toward the Democrats in the adult sample results reported by national polls. This year's controversy has focused more on various state-level polls whose composition too closely represents the party composition of the 2008 electorate, according to the critics.

This focus on party identification is as misguided as it was eight years ago. Here are five tips to avoid some common misconceptions at the heart of the controversy.

1. Party identification is an attitude, not a demographic characteristic. "Generally speaking, do you consider yourself a Republican, a Democrat, an independent or what" is basically the question most pollsters ask. People can change their minds about which party they consider themselves closer to. They cannot change their age, gender or race (at least not easily).

2. Party identification does not equal party registration. Many (but not all) states ask voters to affiliate with a party when they register to vote, usually to enable voting in party primary elections, and most of those states publish statistics on the number of Democrats and Republicans.

As Nate Cohn of The New Republic has noted, however, this week's much-criticized Florida survey conducted by CBS News, The New York Times and Quinnipiac University asked questions about both and, not surprisingly, found much inconsistency. Specifically, the poll found twice as many voters who said they consider themselves independent or part of a third party (36 percent) as voters who said they were registered with no affiliation to the Democratic or Republican parties (18 percent). Notably, registered Republicans were a little more likely than registered Democrats to report an independent identification.

3. Party identification can change slightly during a presidential campaign, as the 2004 experience demonstrates. Although the vast majority of voters have a sense of party identification that rarely alters, some voters -- particularly those who just "lean" to one of the parties -- may shift back and forth between categories depending on recent events. When pollsters ask the party ID question and the context in which they ask it can also affect the answers.

4. Claims that media polls "assume" a specific partisan or demographic composition of the electorate are mostly false. The pollsters behind most of the national media surveys, including those who conduct the CBS/New York Times/Quinnipiac, NBC/Wall Street Journal/Marist and Washington Post polls, all use the same general approach: They do not directly set the partisan or demographic composition of their likely voter samples. They first sample adults in each state, weighting the demographics of the full adult sample (for characteristics such as gender, age, race and education) to match U.S. Census estimates for the full population. They then select "likely voters" based on questions answered by the respondents, without making any further adjustments to the sample's demographics or partisanship.

There are pollsters that weight the subset of "likely voters" by party or to match very specific assumptions about the demographics of those they expect to vote. However, such practices are generally shunned by the national media surveys whose recent results have drawn most of the "skewed poll" criticism.

5. Weighting a new survey to match the party ID results of an old exit poll is a bad idea; "unskewing" polls by weighting to Rasmussen Reports' party ID results is even worse. Exit polls provide a helpful guide to the composition of past electorates, but have their own potential for random error and, as recent experience shows, sometimes make for poor predictors of the future.

But if weighting current surveys to match past exit polls is a bad idea, the new idea of 2012 -- "unskewing" polls by reweighting their results to match the party results produced by the Rasmussen polls -- is galactically stupid.

Rasmussen does report party affiliation results for its adult samples, but it asks a very different question and asks it using an automated, recorded voice -- rather than live interviewers. Moreover, some believe Rasmussen's method reaches a less-than-representative sample of adults.

Put the debate over Rasmussen's methodology aside, however. Even Scott Rasmussen thinks weighting other surveys to his measurements is a bad idea. "Different firms ask about partisan affiliation in different ways," he told BuzzFeed. "You cannot compare partisan weighting from one polling firm to another."

There is room for a reasoned debate over the demographics of the likely electorate. Jay Cost of the Daily Standard is right to argue that while pollsters may not impose their assumptions about who will vote directly, "the myriad of choices they make about when to poll, whom to poll, and how to poll" ultimately determine the composition of their samples. And since those choices remain as much art as science, skeptical scrutiny is appropriate.

It's also fair to ask if shortcomings in those methods may be exaggerating the recent shifts to the Democrats. Something like that may have happened at this point in the 2010 campaign. The big enthusiasm gap two years ago did foretell a GOP turnout advantage, but some polls found a consistently larger Republican surge in their results than actually transpired.

Yet that parallel alone amounts to bad news for Republicans. Few would have guessed just a few months ago that 2012's polling controversy would boil down to the way pollsters are dealing with a surge in Democratic voter enthusiasm in September.

 

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01:14 PM on 11/03/2012
Failed policies over the past 4 years.......
Lied about cutting national debt in half during first term ----- now $6 trillion more
Lied about creating jobs and cutting unemployment to 5.2%---- now 7.9% more than when he took office
Lied about the "video" in Benghazi---- really? why all the emails noting more security needed
Lied about calling it a "terrorist" attack on Sept.12th----- He said video for nearly 2 weeks
Lied from HIs ambassador to UN (Ms. Price) went on 5 national shows saying "video"
Lied about offshore drilling "higher and more drilling than when I took office-- paid $3 billion to Brazil, Guatemala, and Venenzula EACH for drilling
Lied about putting America on the right track and bringing America together- more Divison and Hatred!!
Lied about Obamacare-----IT IS SOCIALIZED MEDICINE!! Just ask your doctor, the Dr. will stop practicing.
Lied about Transparency---- show the tapes of early moments in Benghazi, hiding something ......

A vote for this man, is like driving a knife into the heart of America.......... This is it America....... a "change" will be coming like never seen before........

Remember this,,,,, Obama sat in a chair speaking with the Russian premier and gave a message to Putin.........." I can do more and will have more flexibility when I am re-elected.." God bless
09:24 AM on 11/22/2012
He said "terrorist attack" on 9/12. Terrorist attacks and people being upset about the video are not mutually exclusive (and why does it matter?).
09:57 AM on 10/09/2012
Just wait until after Thursday nights' debate when Bulldog Biden is unleashed.......... He'll really stink up the stage with his "chains" comments and joking about Hispanics working at Dunkin Donuts. Shame on him for that one.......... We were all created Equal Period. He has put his foot in his mouth too many times and Ryan will capitalize putting Biden on defense often. Where is Biden? They took him off the campaign trail this whole week and he is at a "undisclosed" location to go over the debate with his "coach". Seriously, his hair will be glowing when Ryan gets through with him........
05:50 AM on 10/03/2012
Now there is a new poll of what percent of republicans believe polls are biased. 80%+ percent in the new poll believe that to be true. So let's go the next step. What percent of republicans believe that poll about polls? Or is this just getting too silly for further consideration and should be turned over to a psychiatric panel studying reality rejectors?
08:41 PM on 10/02/2012
Wow, you all just can't even consider Obama won't win. It's going to be a rough 4 years for you when he doesn't.
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01:45 PM on 10/03/2012
Please join us on election night, Amy. We'l be celebrating President Obama's re-election. There will be enough alcohol for the Mitt voters. (talk to conservatives who are not victims of cognitive dissonance - this one is lost to the GOP. They're looking towards 2016. They've known this for a while. Rightwing media can't tell you this -remember how wrong they were in 2008 - because you wouldn't tune in and their numbers would suffer. Ad. revenue would go down. Those who are not "lost" in the bubble have already conceded.)
09:26 AM on 11/22/2012
How did election night work out for you?
07:09 PM on 10/02/2012
Forget all the pools...the totally unbiased guys are the international bookies. Ladbrokes currently has Obama as an 84% favorite. http://sports.ladbrokes.com/en-gb/politics/us-presidential-election/2012-us-presidential-race-e212304268. If you want to bet on Romney a $100 bet will get you back $550.
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04:05 PM on 10/02/2012
I will take a real pleasure in voting against Mr. "47% are losers." I will be out of the country, but I have made sure to get my absentee ballot. Romney gets out the vote by making this personal; many of us won't miss the chance to piss on the end of his political career.
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profco
Freedom- just another word for nothin left to lose
08:37 AM on 10/01/2012
I am a lifelong registered Democrat. Nevertheless I am not always pleased with some of the candidates who run on the Democratic ticket in any given election, and theoretically I would vote for a qualified liberal Republican, if such a political phenomenon existed anymore, were s/he to be the better candidate in a particular race. So I consider myself an Independent and identify myself to pollsters as such.

Furthermore, it's evident that the only interest pollsters and journalists have had in recent months is in the views of Independents. If I am going to take the time to share my views with a pollster, I want those views to be taken seriously. not written off as "Well, what else would you expect from a Democrat?"

OTOH, as the "culture war" has heated up and the election draws closer, I've been more inclined to identify myself as a Democrat, if only to send a message to partisan groups like the Republican Jewish Coalition and their ilk that they are NOT making any headway with my "demographic" that they can crow about in their misleading ads.
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12:39 PM on 10/01/2012
A rare and well thought out comment from a democrat on the Huff. But would you say that there are so many more appropriate or rather more important "messages" to send to the democrats than the one that you'd like to send to the Republican Jewish Coalition?
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fausto412
10:30 AM on 10/02/2012
"qualified liberal Republican" Do those exist anymore?
07:55 AM on 10/01/2012
I am a conservative. . But can someone tell me why someone would be "enthusiastic" . given our lowered credit rating, unemployment, scandals like Fast and Furious (no one can say this is a perfectly ethical admiinistration), etc. Enthusiastic, really? Women and blacks have been hit the hardest by unemployment, and what has Obama given gays besides pandering platitutudes right before an election? So please explain this enthusiasm if possible. Thank you.
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12:42 PM on 10/01/2012
It's very simple. It boils down to ideology. Demos believe in socialism, redistribution of wealth and equal results for everyone. Republicans believe in smaller government and equal opportunity, not equal results.
08:50 PM on 10/01/2012
You just think about it the wrong way. Obama voters don't want to do better, they just want everyone else to be punished and brought down to their level.
11:07 PM on 09/30/2012
the only poll that will count will be on Nov. 6th. Pls think very hard before you pull that lever, the future of the country is at stake. Nov. 7th will be too late. 4 more years is very dangerous for our country with Obama. He is slowly bringing USA to its knees. I wont be fooled again...."Many will be decieved" as the good book says...
01:29 PM on 10/01/2012
Fanned. Americans need to take a closer look at Obama...and review his poor record for the past four years. The U.S. was founded by some pretty smart guys and a Constitution was written by which to abide. Obama has defied the Consistution and circumvents the Congress that is elected by the people for checks and balances.

Obama should have been impeached long ago.
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Soon, the GOP will be as obsolete as Al-Qaeda
03:27 PM on 10/01/2012
On what grounds should he be impeached?
04:46 PM on 10/02/2012
Wouldn't it be better to take a look at the congress that said on the steps of the Capitol that their job was to make sure that Obama did not get a second turn?
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c-tom
Badges we don't need no stinking badges
04:11 PM on 10/02/2012
Going back to Bush's party would be even more dangerous.
06:29 PM on 11/17/2012
Amen, and I am a republican
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05:16 PM on 09/30/2012
Actually, nearly all polls (including Rasmussen) have reweighted their pool of respondents by race and ethnicity based upon the 2010 census of all residents of the United States, including well over 11 million immigrants who cannot legally vote and millions more disproportionately Democrat-leaning minorities who are not registered to vote. Thus, these polls increase the weight of their Democrat-leaning African American and especially Hispanic respondents far beyond their participation in the 2004 and 2010 elections and even beyond the outlier 2008 election. http://thecitizenpamphleteer.wordpress.com/2012/09/22/why-polls-over-count-democrats/

Rasmussen uses his own partisan ID polling results to reweight the respondents in his horserace polling. As a result, Rasmussen pegged both the 2004 and 2008 elections.

Using the Rasmussen partisan ID polling results to reweight other polls' partisan ID weighting is only slightly more problematic. No more than a percent or two of folks who are actually registered Republican or Democrat are going to claim they are Independent and even less will say that they are a member of another party. Thus, using the Ramussen finding that 36% of voters are registered Republicans (or the historical Edison exit poll results) to reweight a poll counting only 27% GOP respondents may not be accurate enough to calculate an exact horserace poll result, it is accurate enough to give everyone an idea how skewed the media polls are. http://thecitizenpamphleteer.wordpress.com/2012/09/21/this-weeks-corrected-presidential-polling-average-september-15-21/
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12:45 PM on 10/01/2012
A well explained observation.
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10:03 PM on 09/29/2012
President Obama needs the White House, the House and the Senate. Anything less is unsatisfactory.
09:42 AM on 09/30/2012
Then you are likely to be unsatisfied. The House ain't goin' nowhere. You may see the Dems pick up a few seats, but the GOP will keep their majority in the House.

Look on the bright side, though. Obamacare is safe.
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01:40 PM on 09/30/2012
Quick to fabricate blame for the death of embassy officials, hate for the president will cost the republicans a chance for the presidency and seats in congress. Thee democrats may take the house after all.
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Platinumputter
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12:45 PM on 10/01/2012
He had it before and what did he do with it?
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GHM
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05:53 PM on 09/29/2012
yes
04:25 PM on 09/29/2012
Obama and Dems should go after recapturing the house and maintaining the senate. The Obama win will push the other victories to Dems. Obama needs to keep on campaigning and does not need to create artificial and crammed zingers. He needs to demonstrate his depth and express command over issues to help the middle class.
08:03 AM on 10/01/2012
Yes, let's not make a vigorous economic climate to get blacks back to work, let's make more 1970's style ghettos to cram them in and give them welfare and free internet. And let's have a 15 trillion dollar debt so we can give women free birth control. OK. What a great visionary.
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Platinumputter
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12:46 PM on 10/01/2012
How about if Obama just discusses his record? I'd like to hear him do that.
04:12 PM on 09/29/2012
When Rasmussen gives Obama a lead, you know Romney is in bad shape
09:29 AM on 10/01/2012
When Romney speaks, we all know he is bad shape.
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Stanwyck
01:47 PM on 10/03/2012
According to Bill O'Reilly - Rasmussen is the gospel. Oddly, Fox pundits never reference the Fox poll - almost as if they're tacitly acknowledging that their poll is more honest than they are.
04:00 PM on 09/29/2012
Rasmussen was the closest to outcome in 2008 and 2010. Enough said.
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mothra666
sdrawkcab si oib-orcim yM
11:35 PM on 09/29/2012
according to whom, them?
08:24 PM on 10/02/2012
Do a comparison.
09:45 AM on 09/30/2012
celmak: You are half right. Rasmussen had a good year in 2008 (though they were clustered with most other polls). 2010, however, was a terrible year for them. That year, Rasmussen was the LEAST accurate major poll. They were the outlet that most overestimated the Republican surge at the time.
08:18 PM on 10/02/2012
You are absolutely right; there was no Repub Surge. OTFLOL !!!