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My Opinion On The Governor Romney Tax Plan

Posted: 10/12/2012 9:00 am

After watching interviews of Governor Romney and the debates, both Presidential and VP, I'm starting to fully get my arms around how Governor Romney works and the details of his tax plan.

Governor Romney is a successful financier. He is an amazing deal maker. When he has control of a situation, he knows exactly how to get things done. He knows exactly what he wants to do and he knows exactly the process he needs to take to get there. He is incredibly confident in his ability.

I see some of me in him. When it comes to my companies, I know what i want to do and I have complete confidence that I will get to where i need to go. I might not always get there, but I tend to only get into businesses and battles where I am extremely confident I can come out ahead. My failures have never stopped me from having absolute confidence in how I approach business. I have the feeling that Governor Romney has this trait to a far greater degree than even I do. No failure will ever slow down Governor Romney's confidence.

That confidence is exactly the foundation of his tax plan. This is how I see his plan:

- He will work to create bipartisan agreement to reduce federal spending as a share of GDP to 20 percent - its pre-crisis average - by 2016.

- He will work to create bipartisan agreement to simplify the Tax Code

- He will work to create bipartisan agreement to Reform Entitlement Programs To Ensure Their Viability

- He will make Growth And Cost-Benefit Analysis Important Features Of Regulation.

- He will work to remove regulatory impediments to energy production and innovation that raise costs to consumers and limit job creation.

- That the rich will continue to pay the same share of taxes as they pay now.

- He believes that income and corporate tax cuts across the board will increase economic growth which will offset the impact of any tax cuts that he is able create in a revenue neutral manner

- He intends to first negotiate a bipartisan agreement to eliminate corporate and individual deductions other than mortgage interest deductions, health care deductions and several other tax deductions that he feels are important to the middle class

- Once he has negotiated a bipartisan agreement to eliminate corporate and individual deductions he will be able to access the impact on revenues and determine what tax cuts that can be reasonably made. His goal and hope is that those tax cuts will be 20pct across the board for individuals and to 25pct for corporations. But he has been clear that it is not absolutely certain that these will be the exact numbers.

If I spent enough time I bet I could create an algorithm that covered all the above, but that is far more work than I am willing to do. More importantly each variable in the algorithm would have to have such a large range of possible outcomes, solving the algorithm wouldn't create much value. It is this fact that make people believe that Governor Romney has not provided details for his tax plan.

Well I'm going to fill in those details in a second. But first I want to provide a little more detail on my perception of Governor Romney. As I said at the beginning of this post Governor Romney is a deal maker who has extreme confidence in his ability to get his deals done.

Agree or not, I am certain that Governor Romney firmly believes the following - at Bain he created a company that was built on his ability alone to close deals to buy or invest in companies. He knew that he took people's money and he was relentless in getting profitable deals done to make them money. He was hired to fix the Olympics. and he did. He was hired to fix the state of Massachusetts and he feels certain that he did. Add all this together and I believe that Governor Romney firmly believes that he is as good a negotiator and dealmaker as there is.

If you put a problem in front of him, he knows in his mind that given enough time, resources and control he can solve the problem.

Which is the exact detail of the Romney Tax Plan that makes all the numbers add up. Governor Romney is the detail. He will take all the unsolved variables in the algorithm that is our desire to reduce the budget deficit , increase economic growth and thereby increase employment and negotiate them into the outcome that will solve this country's financial problem.

Can he do it ? I don't know. What I do know is that in order for him to have a rational negotiation on all of these variables it requires the politicians he will be negotiating with to negotiate in the best interests of the country rather than for their own personal interests and for the projections of the economists advising him to be accurate. Those are both high risk factors that will be difficult to overcome. I don't know that anyone can over come them, including Governor Romney. I think it will be difficult for anyone to walk in to the office and get to a compromise that solves the algorithm. But I know Governor Romney has no doubt in his mind that he is more than up to the challenge. Which leads to the next algorithm, what happens if he gets elected and can't get bipartisan agreements ? That has to be part of the equation as well.

So what does all this mean ? It means this is how I was thinking and I wanted to get it out there to let people comment on it. Thats the beauty of a blog, it can create discussion on topics i am interested in.

I'm not saying you should or should not vote for either of the candidates. That is up to you. Nor am I saying that economic issues should be the only factor in who you should vote for. Everyone needs to make their own decisions. Just as I will make my own decision on Nov 6th.

Thanks for reading this far. I hope you jump in on the comments

Cross-posted from Blog Maverick.

 
 
 
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Social Construct
Go left, young man.
10:33 PM on 10/26/2012
A whole lot of words to take a non-position is all I can come up with as a critique of Mr. Cuban's writing. I'm thinking the most important thing said in the entire piece is that our most successful business types of citizens usually are in positions where they have to risk very little for very big returns and, if they fail, a safety net of low risk plus great wealth means little is lost. That, and indicating that Gov. Romney is confident to the point of delusion; that would be the other important point, I guess. So, in conclusion, it all can be summed up as, "Ain't it great to be in the 1%!"
05:03 PM on 10/21/2012
Mark I have taken a lot of business advice from you but I am truly amazed that you think Romney is a good business man. He steals for the poor and pockets the money. What is you opinion on the this Rolling Stones article? Is this how you do business???

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/greed-and-debt-the-true-story-of-mitt-romney-and-bain-capital-20120829
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radiojunkie
tune addict
06:48 PM on 10/26/2012
I agree. This was a tough read. Mark's all over the place. On one hand, Cuban says taxes have never broken any of his deals and advocates a tax increase on everyone making more than a million.

Romney as president would send women and minority rights back decades. The reason GOPers are flooding legislatures with arcane social bills is to get liberal organizations to challenge (in hopes these bills make it to the Supreme Court.) They'll roll us back to the 50s.

It's not worth a whim and a prayer to allow Romney to take over the White House. We more than leaned our lesson that supply-side doesn't work. It's a matter of getting enough of us to the polls.

Supply-side and baggerland social policy is too much for our fragile democracy to handle. We'll go off the rails.
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John Shaw
01:44 PM on 10/19/2012
What in the hell is this guy talking about? Seriously, can anyone have a blog picked up by Huff Post nowadays?
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jstanavgguy
Proud member of the evil 1%
07:00 PM on 10/22/2012
Based on the tripe that most of the blogs on here put out, the answer to your question is yes.

However, your problem is that someone put out an opinion that bothers you.

Obviously, you are someone who believes in freedom of speech - as long as that speech is something that you agree with.
10:44 AM on 10/18/2012
Obama could not get his signature idea - health reform - passed in the form that he campaigned on with control of both houses and a super majority in the Senate. You are right that Congress is the biggest variable and a President Romney would have to settle for somethin gless then he wants. You also give too much credit to politicians (Romney) to take risks that better the country rather than make decisions that provide them job security. I'm a tax attorney, the problem with the tax code isn't the marginal rates it's that the Code is a bunch of pork - over 70,000 pages of pork. It's not intergrated properly and thought out, sections conflict, it's not strategically implemented to achieve economic goals, and for the most part it's perpetual. Also, a tax policy that assumes 12 million jobs - a larger tax base - is fundamentally flawed. It necessarily does not consider what happens to revenue if the 12 million jobs are not created or if they are, what happens if X million of those jobs are lost.
10:12 AM on 10/17/2012
Another one of Romney tricks to get a vote. I wonder how much of his 20 million a year; he's giving up for his rich and famous campaign. I know that these people already have money but people who have money do anything to keep it and want to continue to add to it. Somewhere down the line Mitt have filled these people with a pack of lies to get them to do this for him. Mitt is a sneaky lying fox. Since Mark know so much about politics; he should run for President. But we all know that Mark did not write these notes. We know where he got this from. Romney had the chance to present this crap himself. Romney could have used his face and name to present this himself. I can see him now. This is Romney "Oh guess what America" I finally figured out how to make the numbers work. Check it out. WOW. America is going to be in a world of trouble because if he have not figured out how to handle issues by now; we are in a bigger world of trouble than we were when Bush were in office.
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Jolene Callen-Sliwka
Feeling like a troodontid at the K/T extinction
09:52 AM on 10/17/2012
The GOP declared itself the party of "making Obama a 1-term president" right from the outset. That was more important than doing the job of governing - party over country. Remember the K-street project? Again, it was party first. And now we're supposed to believe that despite this hyper-partisanship they want to (let alone will) bring in an era of "bi-partisanship?" Their recent history says this is not credible. It's more etch-a-sketch shaking based on a belief that people have forgotten about things like those K-street shenanigans.

As to the rest - how on earth can anyone have trust in what Romney will do - even when declared. Is there a position the man has not held at one time or another? The dems should make an ad featuring Mitt arguing with himself over all his various stances. There's a lot of material to work with....
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Common Sinse
Smithers..Release The Hounds!...
09:40 AM on 10/17/2012
I beg to disagree... History has shown clearly that higher taxes mean higher growth lower taxes mean lower growth and NO trickle down effect ...my case in point ..The Bush tax cuts produced lower growth, wage and employment and only benefits the Rich.. Nice Try
11:15 AM on 10/20/2012
Common Sinse...the Bush tax cuts produces the highest tax revenues this country has ever seen. Please inform yourself first...that we had a couple of ongoing wars that wiped out those revenues is another thing.
07:55 PM on 10/16/2012
Seems that Mark Cuban knows more about Romney's plan than Romney does. Now if someone could just explain how the math adds up. Because you can't create a budget that gives everybody everything and takes nothing from anybody and have it work, no matter how sophisticated your algorithms are.
07:30 PM on 10/16/2012
This guy is going to get a job as a campaign manager. Might though want to study a little basketball.

1. Finally win a championship.

2. Basketball championship are based on good defense. Take your best defensive player, tell him you won't sign him to a decent contract.

3. Watch the team allow a lot of points and lose the first round of the playoffs.

4. Wait at least 10 years for another championship.

5. Get rid of your best player after you win.
06:42 PM on 10/16/2012
OMG. I don’t read too many blogs, only because the noise out there really get's to me. This one is almost sweet in it's naivete. You think Romney is like you? Cute. You understand his tax plan because he is the important equation. Little to take to the bank. Your admiration for a man who was not a successful legislator in Massachusetts is charming but is steeped in fiction not reality. The Mass. Romney health care plan was his only chance to leave a legacy. He sought out the one man that could help him, Senator Kennedy and then there was a large chunk of US Government funding to make it real. That contradicts his shift to the Tea Party philosophy. He was polarized from the Mass state government, even designated an elevator for himself, making everyone go out of their way to use another lift to get to their offices. Romney ran Obama down in the last debate. But, he blatantly lied to you, me, and every person watching him. Lesser politically engaged people were impressed, I was stunned. Please, I hope your not at all like the chameleon who is trying so hard to get to the presidency, saying anything he can to make it happen. 8 years for the Bush administration to destroy the economic stability of this country, threw us into the debt that looms, you want more of the same? Then, the smoke and mirror world of Romney is for you.
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proudamericanblkwoman
08:27 PM on 10/16/2012
I'm glad you can see through that BS that he's trying to sell us as well! I like MC and love Shark Tank, but now that it appears he's trying to use his celebrity status and charm to patronize and con us, they will lose me as a fan. It's not that he's voting for Romney, it's that he's insulting our intelligence by trying this BS!
06:40 PM on 10/16/2012
The business of America is business. And when business is good, it's good for all America. But the libs think the business of America is taking care of Americans from cradle to grave on somebody else's dime. Redistribution, y'all.
05:34 PM on 10/16/2012
BS but you believe it
02:50 PM on 10/16/2012
Mr. Cuban has the same interests as the other members of the 1%, and is using his influence to sway voters to Mitt by actually making a case for him.

Kudos, Mark for not threatening the electorate the way many others in your group have. You are a much smarter businessman than the likes of Adelson, Wynn, etc. and you will still have our business after the election, but we can see through your reasoning and know how much you love to win!

Forward not back
OBAMA/BIDEN 2012
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ez14livin
03:22 PM on 10/16/2012
i don't read this as a case for or against romney...

simply one (successful) man's perception on what romney is presenting

an example: i work in software and a large part of the application i support is 3rd party - we do not have access to the source code to fix or change things. we call it a black box

romney is presenting himself as the "black box". feed him all of the parameters and conditions and he will crunch the numbers and provide and optimal solution

the wrench in romney's box is that at the same time he is so confident of bi-partisan support for tax overhaul, he is (per his own words) going to repeal obamacare on day one

biden called out ryan on this very thing: do NOT expect bipartisan support for taxes while at the same time acting in so completely a partisan manner in regard to healthcare (especially when offering nothing to replace it, not to mention that many people like many elements of it that have already been implemented)

that is where romney's hubris will doom us all
08:32 PM on 10/16/2012
Totally possible, he has supported both parties, in the past.
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proudamericanblkwoman
08:53 PM on 10/16/2012
He's trying to do exactly that, sway us w/ his celebrity status, business experience and success to buy his supposed objective, unbiased and sound opinion about Romney who will only benefit the Mark Cubans of the world.

Mark, take your snake oil somewhere else as we're not buying it!

As said by Come on think... Forward not back - Obama/Biden 2012!
02:37 PM on 10/16/2012
Where does it say if you give the owner of your company an extra 100k per year they will hire another employee?

The last thing a business owner does is hire people. They only hire when demand for their products exceed the current output provided by the current employees.

The only way demand goes up, is if the middle class has money to spend on said business owners products.

Romney has put all of his extra tax breaks in offshore accounts. That does not help stimulate our economy. Swiss bank accounts help Romney, not the US. Caymen Island tax shelters help Romney, not the US.

A tax break is a raise for not producing anything or working harder.

Tell your boss you want a raise this year, but you will not take on added responsibility or you will not work longer hours, see what she says.
06:43 PM on 10/16/2012
YOU'RE FIRED! That's what your boss would say. What an idiotic and ideological post. Obama loves you.
09:15 AM on 10/17/2012
The post is in reference to another unpaid for 20% tax cut for millionaires. The theory is if millionaires have another 100k per year they will spend it by hiring people. That is not true. Business profits are at all time highs. Yet the businesses refuse to hire.Romney paid a 14% tax rate last year. If he claimed all his deductions, he would have paid 9%. He said he wants to cut taxes for himself another 20%. So he would pay 7%. What is ideological about that? We can't afford it.  What do we gain by paying a trillion dollars over ten years in raises for people who have already had their taxes lowered to unprecedented levels?  Those are facts.
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livingbettertherapy
Counselor, Therapist, Strategic Intervention
02:04 PM on 10/16/2012
It's curious that some of the posters are implying that although you're a billionaire, you don't know anything about economics. Thanks for sharing your hard earned insights, Mr. Cuban. We can learn a lot from each other when we respect each other. It appears that disrespect is inversely proportional to economic competence today.

I'm not concerned with your liking or disliking me... All I ask is that you respect me as a human being.
Jackie Robinson
03:27 PM on 10/16/2012
It's weird that you bring up knowledge of economics when Cuban's post had nothing to do with it. His point pretty much consisted of, I know how to close deals, I can see that Romney knows how to close deals, Romney will make his tax plan work by closing deals. I'm sure Cuban, and Romney for that matter, are great businessmen, but that's not hard earned economic insight. That's just plain wishful thinking.
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ConsciousOfEverythin
One day at a time. Then, tomorrow.
05:24 PM on 10/16/2012
LMBO. Yes, Cuban's assessment is ONLY as you stated "wishful thinking".

Also, personal money making schemes are hugely different than running the economic schema on behalf of all Americans. Cuban is looking out for his best interest as he is included in the 1% (rich) of the wealth in America.
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livingbettertherapy
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07:12 PM on 10/16/2012
What's weird is that Mark Cuban came out against the anti-Obama CEO a few days ago and he gets so much disrespect. It's also weird that people think a billionaire knows nothing about economics. When the great schools of economics want their students to learn practical lessons on economics, they call on people like Mark Cuba who have graciously share their knowledge.