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Knight Capital Rescuers Totally Fine Handing Over Market To Insane Robots

Posted: 08/06/2012 1:47 pm

A stock market that is abandoned to robots that occasionally go insane is not a functioning financial market, making it harder for companies to raise capital and keep the economy moving.

Wall Street apparently doesn't see it that way.

CNBC on Monday interviewed two executives at financial-services firms that joined a $400 million rescue of brokerage firm Knight Capital, whose high-speed trading robots went nuts and blew a $440 million hole in Knight's balance sheet last week.

Both men, who also happen to sit on the board of the Securities Industry and Financial Markets Association, a Wall Street trade group, declared that their rescue showed that the free market worked just fine and that more regulation would be bad for America.

"Yeah, I think I'm not a big proponent of more regulation," said Curt Bradbury, chief operating officer of Stephens Inc., one of several financial firms involved in the rescue.

"I do not believe that more regulation is in and of itself the answer," agreed Ron Kruszewski, CEO of Stifel Nicolaus, in a separate interview a little later on CNBC. "The best regulator I know is the free market. The free market worked here. There was a loss. It was settled. Capitalism stepped in and did the right thing."

Ah, yes, the free market. The unfettered free market will solve this problem, as it solves so many market problems.

"From the country's point of view, from the regulator's point of view, from everybody's point of view," Bradbury gushed, "this is a good day for American capital markets."

Except in one way it's really a horrible day for American capital markets.

It is true, as both men noted, that Stephens and Stifel Nicolaus and a large group of other vultures, er, investors pooled their cash to rescue Knight, obviating any need for government intervention (though it is doubtful the government would have rescued Knight). And it is also true that Knight shareholders took a nightmarish beating in the deal, which pleases the angry free-market gods. The Vampire Squid fed well.

"What happened here was a Black Swan event," said Kruszewski, in defending the management of Knight Capital.

But "Black Swan" does not mean what Kruszewski apparently thinks it means. A Black Swan event is a rare event that nobody could possibly see coming. This was not that. Anything but. For one thing, Knight should have known that rushing out new trading software, as the New York Times suggests it did, was a risky move.

And the Knightmare on Wall Street is just the latest in a string of high-speed trading accidents, from the Flash Crash in 2010 to the Facebook IPO debacle earlier this year, that have trashed investor confidence in financial markets.

Even before the ink had dried on Knight's rescue deal, there was another technological glitch on Monday, in Spain's Bolsas y Mercados Espanoles SA, that threw stock trading in Spain into disarray for hours. And smaller-scale blowups are happening all the time.

In fact, the free market has pushed high-speed trading further, because it has generally been a money maker for the brokerage firms and exchanges. The robots make trading cheaper and smoother -- more liquid, if you will -- except for the few occasions when the robots make trading horrifically expensive and volatile. Apparently the free market thinks it can handle a few blowups here and there.

And maybe it can. The Vampire Squid has to eat, too, you know, and those Botox treatments aren't going to pay for themselves.

But what the free market maybe cannot handle is the growing disgust retail investors feel with the whole enterprise. They have been pulling money out of stocks consistently since the financial crisis, which may not be a wise investment decision, but is certainly understandable.

And that's why regulators need to do what the free market obviously won't: Find a way to curb these high-speed trading robots before they wreck the whole system.

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Kai-HK
Don't Share My Wealth! Share My Work Ethic!
11:38 AM on 08/08/2012
Great news! Free-market capitalism working as it should. Bad trades and business practices being punished, lessons learned, better practices forthcoming. It is the best way to discipline markets, by simply letting bad sections be rewarded with failure.

The government needs to get out of the way and let failure occur. No more bailouts.

Kai
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Stanley Bonk
"mad, bad, and dangerous to know"
01:02 AM on 08/08/2012
Didn't something like this happen just before the stock market crash of 1929?

The proper thing to do is to charge a fractionals cent tax on every single stock market transaction. What most people don't realize is that big brokerage firms have computer buying and selling huge blocks of stock based on momentary fluctuations in their value. Sometimes the same block of stock will be bought and sold thirty times a minute. Putting a minimal tax on each of these transactions would slow down the rate of these transactions happening. The actual profits from every transaction are so slight that it would eventually stop the practice.
11:55 PM on 08/07/2012
KC allows high-tech skimming/scamming for super rich corporations and those who run them...
12:58 PM on 08/07/2012
I love the way these guys talk about the free market and their disagreement with further regulation, or any regulation really. OK. But then at least have the pride not to ask the SEC for a bailout. Mary Shapiro said no, but the fact is, she should never have been asked.
Realist2011
beware false profits....
07:11 AM on 08/07/2012
Knight Capital is a "market-maker". That alone tells you something is wrong. They are "making" the market, well, they're making it, along with the rest of Wall Street, into one giant, ludicrous scam. They are just one more useless cog built into a system of corrupt financial criminality that is designed to do one thing. They "make" the market into whatever generates the most profit for themselves, as those "profits" are paid with the losses from you and I, well, you at least, since I want absolutely nothing to do with Wall Street in any way, shape or form.

My retirement, what's left of it since the last "help" I received from Wall Street during this continuing recession, is parked safely in a local bank, not making much, but losing none.

"Make this" you RICO criminals (issuing the quintessential single finger salute). And America, don't hold your breath waiting for this to end. Washington is absolutely powerless to regulate. They don't have the desire. They don't have the knowledge to even understand the obvious dangers of what is going on. More importantly, they don't have the support of Congress, who feeds their relentless campaign machines at Wall Streets doors.
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mountainweb
Conservative Commonsense
07:00 AM on 08/07/2012
Bottom line, classic example of someone putting a new software application into production without any real testing to see if it has bugs in it.. Knight should not be bailed out.....
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05:57 AM on 08/07/2012
"I do not believe that more regulation is in and of itself the answer,"
Because the industry can easily sever all links with government, and provide its own insurance cover any time it chooses . Thereby showing that it assumes both the authority to determine its own rules, and full responsibility for their failure. Obviously assuming the former without the latter would be an irrational state of affairs. Either the market can stand entirely on its own two feet, or someone has to hold its hand.

“a large group of other vultures, er, investors pooled their cash to rescue Knight”
Because as soon as it was seen that government was willing to let it collapse, it would have sent an unambiguous signal to investors. When the system won’t or can’t cover its losses, that’s it.

"What happened here was a Black Swan event,"
Unfortunately, as has been discovered. Black swans don’t exist in isolation. There’s an entire breeding flock out there.

“Find a way to curb these high-speed trading robots before they wreck the whole system.”
Or stand back, and let the Black Swans come home to roost.
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05:56 AM on 08/07/2012
High speed trading should be forbidden or taxed so heavily that it is not viable. Most markets would function very well with only quarterly trading. Frequent trading has little to do with anything but speculation regarding the psychology of other traders. It adds so much noise and obscures actual information.
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chlai88
Change is the only constant
04:21 AM on 08/07/2012
And those Knight Capital execs have the cheek to say this is free market. High speed trading's objective is to skew & exploit suply & demand in order to game the market in its favor. Free my foot. No question it should be regulated.
03:39 PM on 08/07/2012
It should be taxed, would reduce the volume and bring in some much needed revenue without affecting anyone other than the well-to-do.

A transaction tax of 50% for securities held less then 5 seconds sounds about right to me.
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jmdziuban1
Aspiring ne'er do not-so-well
02:33 AM on 08/07/2012
Knight accounted for 11% of all trading from January to May. Is this a case, not of the free-market working, but of a dysfunctional market covering for itself? In a free market, rather than a lifeline, Knight would have been taken over, bought, or allowed to go under. But since this had to do with robotic algorithm trading - which already has been the subject of some embarrassment - is this a case of the failure of Knight Capital being considered Too Embarrassing to allow it to Fail?

I suppose it depends upon your definition of free market, for the consortium that extended the lifeline were certainly free to choose that course of action, But I always thought the idea was to eliminate your competition when possible, not rescue them.
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Roelvdwegen
Truth & Justice are Liberally biased
08:12 AM on 08/07/2012
Stock trading is bullshit, the total worth of the mythical "markets" comes down to SEVERAL times the world economy!

It used to be that one actually invested in a company to help it grow, today there is no such interest.

Growing the world economy should have the purpose of improving life for the general populace, it shouldn't be just to make more money.
01:15 AM on 08/07/2012
When you hold a stock for micro seconds you are not investing, you are gambling. Day trading and the buying and selling of stock for brief moments should be treated and taxed like gambling.
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mountainweb
Conservative Commonsense
06:58 AM on 08/07/2012
On target, in reality the way to stop this insanity is to make it illegal to buy and sell a stock in the same day.
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mountainweb
Conservative Commonsense
07:07 AM on 08/07/2012
Make any trade done within 60 min. taxed at 75% and you will see a lot this vanish...
11:42 PM on 08/06/2012
Another fluff piece. Look at market volume and live human traders in comparison to robot HFT algos trying to front-run each other and prevent price discovery.

As for that Spain thing, there was no glitch. They suspended trading because, apparently, something has blown up in derivatives yet again. We have only been warned about such occurrences since, oh.... 1996. The contagion of 'glitches' has now spread to Japan where another 'glitch' forced a market shutdown. And the dollar? Dropping like a stone. You never know about FX and the warmongering Israelis forcing up gas prices at the pump.

As for HFTs? They don't really provide liquidity as that liquidity flows back into Wall Street bank accounts. And at 30% of revenue going to bonuses, as can and has happened... the HFTs don't work for liquidity... they work for bonuses.

This article is a sugarcoating over the problems. It soft-balls some of the issues.
BigDaddyWow
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11:37 PM on 08/06/2012
One of these trading firms will eventually crash everything and then if Wallstreet doesn't run red with the blood of bankers it will be running green in class actions. This segment of corporate America is totally out of control and we just need to let them wipe themselves out.
10:28 PM on 08/06/2012
"The best regulator I know is the free market. The free market worked here. There was a loss. It was settled. Capitalism stepped in and did the right thing." ... an amazing assertion! Even the dullest student probably knows from Econ 101 that there is NO SUCH THING as a 'free market' in our world, not even close. While the 'free market' may be a nice theoretical idea, it is just that; the conditions for a 'free market' cannot exist, except perhaps for a very rudimentary and small economy, maybe a barter economy on some tiny Pacific island.
10:02 PM on 08/06/2012
This was a great opportunity for the small investor to get in on a $12 stock for $3. It will be at $10 in under a year. CHING CHING