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Knight Capital Debacle: The Latest High-Frequency Nightmare -- Regulators, You Paying Attention Yet?

Posted: 08/02/2012 11:52 am

Maybe this is the fastest way to get high-frequency trading robots to stop ruining our stock market: Have them destroy each and every trading company that operates them.

It might take that sort of carnage to get the attention of market regulators, who have done little to stop the freakish market meltdowns, from the Flash Crash to the Facebook IPO, that have made investors hate the stock market forever.

And now there's the latest train wreck, which the Wall Street Journal has dubbed, for the win, The Knightmare On Wall Street.

That's Knightmare, as in Knight Capital, the New Jersey trading firm whose trading algorithms went haywire on Wednesday, causing crazy trades in about 150 different stocks and costing the firm $440 million.

Just like that, the company is teetering on the edge of destruction, saying it is "actively pursuing its strategic and financing alternatives," which is PR-speak for "Holy crap, we need money fast."

The company's stock price has plunged to $3.40, down 67 percent from Tuesday's close. Analysts are talking bankruptcy.

How does a company get itself into so much trouble so quickly? Easy. Turn on the robots and watch them go.

CNBC stock-market reporter Bob Pisani writes that volume on the New York Stock Exchange on Wednesday morning was up to 300 million shares after the first half-hour of trading, twice its normal volume. A lot of that volume was apparently driven by Knight algorithms making stupid trades in lots of different stocks.

And those stupid trades went on for a long, long time -- long enough for other firms to catch on and start trading against Knight, lucking into a small killing. Firms like Bright Trading of Detroit, whose trader Dennis Dick told the Wall Street Journal:

"The algorithm just kept trading," Mr. Dick said. "There are algorithmic errors everyday but they're caught immediately--this went on for nearly half an hour." He said a number of Bright's traders made 'thousands of dollars' Wednesday by trading during the disruption.

Supporters of high-frequency trading say it helps make the market more "liquid." Which is great when you are the one receiving the precious liquid, as Bright Trading was yesterday. It is arguably less great when you are the one being liquidated, as Knight Capital was.

It is a particularly juicy irony that this is happening to Knight Capital. Its CEO, Thomas Joyce, has been at the front of the pitchfork-wielding mob going after Nasdaq for the technical glitches that marred the Facebook IPO, another debacle that cost Knight and other market-makers hundreds of millions of dollars.

The lesson of Knight Capital is that this sort of thing can happen to any stock, to any trading firm, on any exchange, at any time. It is why investors are fleeing from the stock market in droves. The Investment Company Institute said investors pulled another $3 billion out of stock mutual funds just last week, and have been pulling money consistently out of stock funds for five years running.

As one investor, college professor Perry Glasser, told WSJ columnist Jason Zweig:

With events like the flash crash and this week's stumble, ... "you could buy and hold a company for 15 years and then have everything you've built up disappear in five minutes. No one can take that kind of risk anymore. There's no such thing as a widows-and-orphans stock anymore."

In an interview with Bloomberg TV, Knight Capital's Joyce said he was happy that "nobody else except for us was wounded by this activity." Except that's not really true. Investor confidence has taken another giant kick in the gut. That indirectly hurts the economy by making people more wary about investing.

Market regulators seem vaguely aware of this problem, but they aren't moving very quickly to do anything about it. They currently don't even have the technology or the funds to keep up with most of the trading going on in the market.

The exchanges, meanwhile, need the high-speed traders for the precious revenue they bring in. That's why high-speed trading has spread from stocks to corn futures and more.

So brace yourself for more Knightmares.

 
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Maybe this is the fastest way to get high-frequency trading robots to stop ruining our stock market: Have them destroy each and every trading company that operates them. It might take that sort of ca...
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ehjay
VOTE DEMOCRAT & SAVE AMERICA
02:36 AM on 08/05/2012
The markets have been reduced to the large pools of money battling with each other. When elephants fight everyone else leaves, as is happening here..
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bbriani3842
400+ yrs of science & STILL no evidence for a god
06:14 PM on 08/04/2012
Burn, baby, burn ... Couple of questions:

1. Any of these nlmr0ds ever hear of anything called "Chaos Theory"?

2. How much of money could our Treasury raise by enacting a "trading sales tax" or a "transaction tax"?
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sunbeltvoter
Teapublican Evangelical Cults ARE The Problem
01:29 PM on 08/04/2012
Tax day traders. A transaction tax will not affect the long term investor.
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sunbeltvoter
Teapublican Evangelical Cults ARE The Problem
01:18 PM on 08/04/2012
"There's no such thing as a widows-and-orphans stock anymore."

A robot computer buys 1 million shares of Ford Motors. The hundred year old economics textbooks say someone “invested” in Ford and now Ford has money to build a factory and hire workers.

Five seconds later the computer sees a $0.0001 profit per share and sells all the Ford stock to make a quick profit. Someone made money on Casino Wall Street and people consider that a Great Good in our Financialized Economy.

Serious Question: How many effing factories did Ford build and how many effing workers did Ford hire during the five seconds the robot computer owned I mean INVESTED in Ford Motors? HOW MANY?

The entire model is broken. Wall Street is a rigged Casino. Any widow, orphan, or Joe Sixpack with his 401K who buys a stock is a mark who just got suckered. They might as well write a check to Goldman Sachs and just mail them the money. The Wall Street Giants WILL end up stealing every penny of the comman man's money over time. Just give it to them and quit pretending it will ever be there for retirement.
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kamact
Market Observer
01:02 PM on 08/04/2012
Entertaining...but should be better regulated...
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Jack Davies
THEY OWN BOTH SIDES!
10:17 AM on 08/04/2012
Computer programs dump billions into the ether and we can't figure out what's wrong here?
08:42 AM on 08/04/2012
A computer is only as smart as the person who programmed it.
07:41 AM on 08/04/2012
The truth of the matter is that Wall Street and the entire capitalist system as we know were designed to provide funding to entrepreneurs and reward those who were providing such funds. Since the '80ies (and the 1987 crash the first tell tale of that trend), the market has been taken over by speculators, not investors. Speculators can clearly be identified by their trade patterns. The industry is a reality and somehow a benefit to our economy. What we need is to provide different rules for speculators and different benefits for investors. It will take a lot of political courage to do so though, and in light of the powerful interests at stake, I don't see that happening soon.
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bynddrvn5
My Micro-bio is unwritten...
07:41 AM on 08/04/2012
"Defense network computers. New... powerful... hooked into everything, trusted to run it all. They say it got smart, a new order of intelligence. Then it saw all people as a threat, not just the ones on the other side. Decided our fate in a microsecond: extermination." - Terminator

So anyone know how these black boxes actually work? Do they work by programming code, or is there some person who tells it what to do? It really wouldn't be too hard to trade on illegal information and then claim that it was the computer that chose to buy or sell shares.

Wonder if Knight Capital created the software in house, or trusted someone else to provide the software?
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spkninglsh
'Poor' Fridge Owner
01:45 AM on 08/04/2012
The computers say it won't happen again, so there is no need for regulation.
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sunbeltvoter
Teapublican Evangelical Cults ARE The Problem
01:24 PM on 08/04/2012
Charles Ponzi 1920s

Bernie Madoff 1990s

Yes things never repeat in Casino Wall Street.
oilfield
large employer per obamacare
11:41 PM on 08/03/2012
if you are going to stay in for more than a day...hft is irrelevant.
10:18 PM on 08/03/2012
"Market regulators currently don't even have the technology or the funds to keep up with most of the trading going on in the market."

Forget analyzing the trades, just tax them. That will slow them down, and make the world safe for the rest of us.
05:21 PM on 08/03/2012
Most Knight Capital employees wouldn't speak at all, saying they can't talk to the press. What's the reaction to the http://KnightmareonWallStreet.com?
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tqjones44
Gotta put something into something to get somethin
03:18 PM on 08/03/2012
Wall Street is a gian PONZI Scheme...put your money in offshore accounts like Mitt
01:42 PM on 08/03/2012
'The Investment Company Institute said investors pulled another $3 billion out of stock mutual funds just last week, and have been pulling money consistently out of stock funds for five years running.'
I keep on reading similar statements as the above and yet the stock market keeps going on up, which I would have thought shouldn't be happening.
But I search in vain for any in depth diiscussion as to what driver can be giving the market it's upward momentum.
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Papapaul49
Driver,chief cook and bottle washer, retired LO.
02:40 PM on 08/03/2012
How about tooth and claw, insanely leveraged speculation?
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Unclebuggies
05:18 PM on 08/03/2012
Going up? The Dow is still below its 2007 pre-crash high.