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Tim Geithner Admits Banks Bailed Out With Rigged Libor, Costing Taxpayers Huge Amount

Posted: 07/25/2012 11:06 am

Timothy Geithner claimed on Wednesday that the government had no choice during the financial crisis but to lend to banks and AIG using an interest rate, Libor, that everybody knew was flawed.

Call it a back-door bailout: By using an artificially low Libor, the government saved the banks and AIG millions, maybe billions -- and cost the taxpayers the same amount.

The use of Libor in the bailouts also rubber-stamped that hopelessly manipulated interest rate as a market measure, raising still more questions about just how worried Geithner and other regulators really were about it.

In a House Financial Services Committee hearing on Wednesday, Treasury Secretary Geithner was asked why Treasury and the Fed used the London Interbank Offered Rate as a basis for loans to insurance giant American International Group and to U.S. banks under the Term Asset-Backed Securities Loan Facility -- even though Geithner and other regulators had long suspected that Libor was artificially low, as Geithner testified.

"We were in the position of investors around the world," Geithner shrugged. "You have to choose a rate, and we did what everybody did -- use the best rate available at the time."

Geithner repeated his claim that he warned other U.S. and British regulators in the spring of 2008 about possible manipulation of the key interest rate and recommended changes to the way the rate was set.

But he also said that, months later, when it came time to set bailout terms for the Too Big To Fail Set, the government just had no other choice but to use Libor.

Sure, that's one way to look at it. Another, less charitable way to look at it is that the Fed was fully aware that Libor was being manipulated lower, and was fine charging an artificially low rate to lend money to banks and to AIG, in what amounted to yet another kind of bailout. Why make life harder for them, right? They had enough problems dealing with the crisis they had created. Raising red flags about Libor might have only made the crisis worse, making it harder for banks to borrow money.

But in the process, the government left untold mountains of cash on the table for U.S. taxpayers. Even if Libor was only manipulated a tiny bit lower, these small breaks add up.

In fact, if you wanted to be cynical about it, you could say this is yet another example of the Treasury Department and the Fed once again putting the needs of banks ahead of all else, including such niceties as "faith in the market" and "taxpayers."

I wrote a story for the Wall Street Journal back in 2009 estimating that banks may have saved $24 billion by borrowing at unusually low rates in another crisis-era government lending program, the Term Liquidity Guarantee Program -- loans that were frequently based on Libor.

There's still a lot of number crunching to be done in the weeks ahead, but it would not be surprising if TALF banks and AIG saved similar amounts by borrowing from the government at an artificially low Libor rate.

As Neil Barofsky, former inspector general for TARP, and others have noted, by using Libor, the Fed and Treasury rubber-stamped that rate as a lending benchmark, despite widespread doubts about its accuracy.

Despite Geithner's claim that there was just no choice but to use Libor when setting bailout terms, Treasury and the Fed easily could have used other rates -- the federal runds rate targeted by the Fed, for example, or a market-based rate such as the "eurodollar" rate, which is typically very similar to, but has in recent years been a little bit higher than, Libor.

Geithner argued on Wednesday that his quiet warnings to other regulators led to the investigations that are only now starting to bear fruit, with Barclays paying big fines and other banks bracing for fines of their own.

But those warnings were very quiet, letting banks continue to reap the benefits of low Libor -- benefits that probably far outweighed any fines they will pay.

 
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StephenJK
All your consciousness are belong to us
11:04 AM on 08/13/2012
Back-door bailout? More like back-door robbery. Let's see a show of hands; how many of you believe this was all planned well in advance?

First: Destroy Glass-Steagall
Second: Burst the so-called Tech Bubble.
Third: Federal Reserve chairman Greenspan drops interest rates to nearly zero.
Fourth: Push hard on the public the idea of "everyone can own a home"
Fifth: Banks and other institutions giving loans out to anyone who came through the doors with a heartbeat (I wouldn't be surprised if they loaned to deceased peoples)
Sixth: Create convoluted "investment" instruments based on the huge influx of new mortgages.
Seventh: Buy, sell and trade said convoluted instruments to "create a market" for them and make them attractive to SUCKERS.
Eighth: Blow up all of the adjustable rate mortgages aka mortgages for SUCKERS and destroy the consumer's ability to pay, therefore creating the "mortgage crisis".
Ninth: Have the banks act destitute and in need of "help" and threaten the public with imminent cataclysm if the banks are not bailed out.
Tenth: Pillage the treasury and hand it out to all of the big banks to the tune of 800 billion dollars.

But, before all that, make sure you know how to manipulate the LIBOR rate in order for this ten step plan to really succeed.

HUNT THEM DOWN!
01:30 PM on 08/12/2012
utter outrage.

taking tax money from the treasury to pay banks.

outrage.
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Tribal Knowledge
Be bold and mighty forces will come to your aid!
12:58 PM on 08/07/2012
The Obama administration has completely failed us on the financial end. Couple this with several other terrible decisions, including the administration's killing the retirement benefits for TWENTY THOUSAND Delphi workers during the auto bailout.

Despicable.
04:26 AM on 07/30/2012
Geithner should be in prison, or worse.
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Sharon Hanson
Skeptical of the *pseudo-skeptics*
01:11 PM on 07/29/2012
Is there an end in site or are we totally doomed?
05:52 PM on 07/26/2012
"You have to choose a rate, and we did what everybody did -- use the best rate available at the time."

Is this a confession that the other possible rates are even more fraudulent?
11:41 AM on 07/26/2012
“By using an artificially low Libor, the government saved the banks and AIG millions, maybe billions -- and cost the taxpayers the same amount.”

Not necessarily. A higher rate could have meant a much bigger financial crisis and an even bigger bailout requirement. It will take a long time to work out the overall effects of these low rates.
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builderman55
Featherless Biped
11:31 AM on 07/26/2012
The tendrils of big banks, Wall Street and corporate America are so entangled in the body of government that it may take an even more severe crisis to extricate them. The numbers of people considering voting for Romney for President show that we haven't been punished enough by the unholy alliance...
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Daniel Key
05:52 AM on 08/10/2012
Wait, didn't this all happen on Obama's watch and they're still getting away with it? You shouldn't be so partisan. It's precisely why nothing ever changes. We should be holding Obama's feet to the fire over this.
01:42 PM on 08/12/2012
By no means did it all happen on Obama's watch. It started when Henry Paulson, secretary of the treasury under george bush, flagrantly defied law and demanded tax dollars be taken from the treasury and given directly to his former company, Goldman Sachs.

He was following precedent set by then vice president Cheney, who had forced several enormous no-bid contracts through the Corp of Engineers for his company, Halliburton.

Gotta agree with your "partisan" comment however... clearly this was a bi-lateral effort, since the attorney general has allowed the banks to plea bargain so that no criminal charges will be filed by the department of justice. That is the same attorney general that the president has protected with executive privilege; and the first attorney general in history to be held in contempt of congress.

Clearly we are living in interesting times.
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2garen
10:14 AM on 07/26/2012
And it is STILL costing the taxpayer while the smoke screen continues with the media.
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charlesamerica
09:42 AM on 07/26/2012
For Geithner to still have a job today show the corruption the Obama Administration is hiding behind and if not hiding the shear ignorance of the White House in not understanding that your Treasury Secretary know that the LIBOR was rigged yet set bailout to this rate, which was a result of all the corruption by banks, but he continues it and now 4 years later his answer to Congress is BS!

Obama been made aware of his Treasury appointment to not stop the rigging is un-excusable!
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karen1p
05:03 AM on 07/26/2012
It has gotten to a ridiculous level.

Obama has two choices......line up these criminals, indict them, make them go to prison. OR he doesn't deserve any second term.

Geithner and Holder need to be replaced. Geithner and his knowing LIBOR crimes since '07? THAT DOES MEAN OBAMA KNEW OF IT TOO. This administration is so derailed.
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General Washington
In the future, I return as Geddy Lee
04:42 AM on 07/26/2012
I wonder, after they've roasted Geithner and Bernanke, how long it will take before any member of executive management for these beneficiary institutions is called before our august Congress?

And will they be treated as is their due (chained and whipped before a question is even asked), or given champagne and caviar to nibble on as they all sit around smoking big fat cigars in an easy, friendly conversation about who did what, and how to avoid doing anything about it?
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Tiggy
01:28 AM on 07/26/2012
Treason...pure and simple. Just enforce the law.
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charlesamerica
11:43 PM on 07/25/2012
This a a joke at best and a crime at worst. Geithner sit in front of Congress after 4 years of knowing what been going on with the LIBOR and give the story "I told them but they did not do any thing"! Are you freakin kidding me, that the United State Treasury Secretary after he had been in office for 3.5 years is giving a grade school answer to Congress the damn janitor cleaning his office would not give and expect not to go to jail.

Mr. Geithner what the crime going on over at Ginnie Mae I have written and written about? Clue its about the troops being illegally being foreclosed! What have you done? It only a matter of a few trillion dollar of worthless mortgage backed securities!
11:25 PM on 07/25/2012
costing tax payers? Not really, according to bogus financial guru and dual-loyalist Larry Kudlow