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Posted: August 20, 2008 12:30 PM

1st Poll Results -- What 5000+ Air Americans Think

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5,535 of you responded to our First Air America Poll about the 2008 Election.

True, our poll might not represent a scientific sample but a) it is five times larger than the usual national poll sample and b) we do represent a growing progressive movement. And collectively, you all did reveal a lot about the nature of Air Americans.

There were surprises. When we asked who would be the Denver Keynote Speaker (before Mark Warner was chosen last week), one name elicited 2.5 times the response of anyone else on the list -- Senator Jim Webb. Seems that someone who can both fight and write has struck a big chord.

And it's Obama in '08 with 92% (told you we weren't entirely representative)...but it's Hillary slightly ahead of Gore in 2012 if The Big O doesn't make it this year.

Joe Biden has a lock on Secretary of State, say you, - if he's not on the ticket: Tim Kaine with 799 votes, Joe Biden with 777, and Bill Richardson with 707 are your top choices to be Obama's VEEP.

And for those who believe in The Wisdom of Crowds (that all of us are smarter than any of us), adding up the results predicts an Obama win with about 300 electoral votes and by (on average) 5 to 10 percentage points.

We'll announce next January that person who best predicted what would happen -- and then we'll hear from her/him on my program 7 Days in America.

Thanks so many of you for responding and for listening to...A VOICE we can believe in.

On to Denver.

2008 Election Poll Results Summary

Who will give the Democratic Convention Keynote Address?

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Who do you think Barack Obama will choose as his running mate?

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*Poll was taken before John Edwards publicly admitted to his affair.


If Obama wins the presidency, who will be Secretary of State?

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If Obama should lose the presidency, who would be your preference as the Democratic nominee in 2012?

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Who will you be voting for?

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What will be the winner's total number of electoral votes?

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By how many percentage points will the winner surpass the second place finisher?

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5,535 of you responded to our First Air America Poll about the 2008 Election. True, our poll might not represent a scientific sample but a) it is five times larger than the usual national poll sample...
5,535 of you responded to our First Air America Poll about the 2008 Election. True, our poll might not represent a scientific sample but a) it is five times larger than the usual national poll sample...
 
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- mmerose I'm a Fan of mmerose 11 fans permalink

I like to see the rank for Wes Clark. I can see the banners now:

THE AMERICAN DREAM TEAM,

as in, two guys who earned it "the old fashioned way."

Clark also fits the description of not coming off as an egomaniac.

A surprise?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:13 PM on 08/21/2008
- meanguy I'm a Fan of meanguy 17 fans permalink

5000, huh? so they polled their listeners 10 times?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:53 AM on 08/21/2008

I didn't know Air America had 5,535 listeners, with how it had filed for banruptcy and its' failings.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:03 PM on 08/20/2008
- UnbiasView I'm a Fan of UnbiasView 20 fans permalink

3,000 people bought Nancy Pelosi's book . . .

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:02 PM on 08/20/2008
- dexxjones I'm a Fan of dexxjones 22 fans permalink

try and find 3000 people buying her "off the table" routine. what a dissapointment. i wonder when the gop will get the memo that the left is pissed off with her and give her the lieberman treatment.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:04 AM on 08/22/2008
- dexxjones I'm a Fan of dexxjones 22 fans permalink

maybe if they had the 500 million a year in support that faux news had for their first dismal years, they would have had a better audience.

britney spears sold a lot of albums and plenty of people tune into see garbage reality shows. if AAR is so unimportant, why such a high troll infestation rate every time they're mentioned?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:50 AM on 08/22/2008
- meanguy I'm a Fan of meanguy 17 fans permalink

it's like a radio train wreck...you kknow it's hideous, but you just can't resist looking

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:04 AM on 08/25/2008
- FdeBear I'm a Fan of FdeBear 51 fans permalink

Bankruptcy doesnt mean you go out of business! Air America has been on the air continually. I'm one of the "5,535" listeners who've been with them from day one. I savor every progressive moment. You want to know how AA is doing? Check out the ads, BAM BAM and use your dumb head to smack a wall.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:58 AM on 08/23/2008
- meanguy I'm a Fan of meanguy 17 fans permalink

bankruptcy DOES mean something's not working...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:12 AM on 08/25/2008

I think when you poll a very selective audience like this you get very skewed results. It's no different than asking all of msnbc, cnn, or fox's viewers exclusively what they think. They will all generally be the same as they'll all have similar interests in the programming of each station.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:31 PM on 08/20/2008
- danoj I'm a Fan of danoj 17 fans permalink

Hey now, you are talking to the skewed, and it's only skewed or wrong when it favors a conservative. Everything else is right on the money with the loons on this site.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:20 PM on 08/20/2008
- BillN I'm a Fan of BillN 28 fans permalink
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Loons? What are you doing here?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:14 PM on 08/20/2008
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You obviously don't understand anything you read here.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:35 AM on 08/21/2008
- doctorwang I'm a Fan of doctorwang 196 fans permalink
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I agree. It's akin to Lou Dobbs asking his audience a question concerning immigration. The resulting poll numbers will always reflect a negative stance towards illegal aliens.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:42 PM on 08/20/2008
- mmerose I'm a Fan of mmerose 11 fans permalink

So, what's your point? It is about the Democrat side of the race anyway. You go answer the Republican polls.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:15 PM on 08/21/2008
- FdeBear I'm a Fan of FdeBear 51 fans permalink

The term is Democratic. You've just signaled you're a troll.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:01 AM on 08/23/2008
- Bartolo27 I'm a Fan of Bartolo27 24 fans permalink
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First of all the republicans will DO ANYTHING to win. Anything. No matter how criminal, evil, vile, underhanded or immoral.

What is wrong with Americans attention span? Even those who are Progressive. The Democrats have had eight years to do something about the voting machine situation and lost a second election to bUSH after they KNEW what happened in the first election. Whaaaaa?! They still haven't dealt with the problem.

WHAT ARE THEY THINKING? Is this just a big Dog and Pony show?

It will happen to the USA again. What are you going to do about it? Nothing just like our Democratic representatives.
It's gonning be a squeaker folks, a real squeaker and Republican John McCain will be elected in the area of 51% to 49%.
Anybody want to bet me some real money on this? I'll take it.

I'm still voting Obama. Not that it will make a difference in Texas.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:43 PM on 08/20/2008
- Birdman I'm a Fan of Birdman 41 fans permalink

Whaaaaa?! They still haven't dealt with the problem.

That is not true Most states have decertified electronic voting machines. Talk about attention spans.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:42 PM on 08/20/2008
- BillCarson I'm a Fan of BillCarson 5 fans permalink
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It's getting better, but there are still about 18 states that use electronic voting machines without a voter verified paper trail, including the potential swing states of

Pennsylvania (most of the state uses machines with no paper trail)
Virginia (like Pennsylvania)
Colorado (about half the state uses machines with no paper trail)
Florida (Mixed paper voting and machines)

source: http://www.verifiedvoting.org/verifier/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:01 AM on 08/21/2008

Ditto. A close election with Obama leading is as good as a stolen election for McCain.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:14 PM on 08/20/2008
- meanguy I'm a Fan of meanguy 17 fans permalink

it's always a good thing to have your excuse ready...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:14 AM on 08/25/2008

Bartolo27 hit the nail on the head. What the Republicans will do to win is beyond the comprehension of most Americans, who are incapable of seeing the true amount of depravity that the Republicans represent. Americans are anesthetized and masochistic, incapable of realizing that they are considered to be nothing but suckers to the plutocrats running the show.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:18 PM on 08/22/2008
- GeoLee I'm a Fan of GeoLee 67 fans permalink

Air America does not speak for, or for that matter, to America in a whole lot of areas in the United States. The only place I have heard it recently is while on a plane where i was lucky enough to have brought my own earbuds with me because none were even available to buy. If you don't have satellite radio in your car you can forget Air America in the midwest, south and great plains states for the most part. We are subjected to FOX almost exclusively and sound alikes of Fox. Our most liberal option seems to be Public Radio. So, this post only means a little to the big city audiences and the east and west coast and I dare say so do the results of the poll. I don't think you all on the coasts understand that lack of access to information limits us to CNN and MSNBC for even moderate views...if the particular cable company even has MSNBC. Traveled to a hotel in the south recently anyone? Try finding one with MSNBC and post the name, please.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:05 PM on 08/20/2008

Here is a link to Air America's affiliates. They may not have a strong presence in the south and midwst, but they are there. Give it time:

http://airamerica.com/stations

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:00 PM on 08/20/2008
- UnbiasView I'm a Fan of UnbiasView 20 fans permalink

They have a station here in MN . . . it is crappy as hell and don't think it extends more than 500 feet.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:04 PM on 08/20/2008
- BillN I'm a Fan of BillN 28 fans permalink
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You're also disregarding a very large segment of their listenership who stream them via podcast or the web site. That number is larger than you think (I think Nixon called them the "silent majority").

Like me, they don't trust broadcast media anymore - so they don't go there.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:23 PM on 08/20/2008
- mmerose I'm a Fan of mmerose 11 fans permalink

I don't know. I notice as I drive on long trips I can find progressive talk more and more consistently.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:18 PM on 08/21/2008

Obama will NEVER win the Presidency

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:44 PM on 08/20/2008
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..because you said so? Hard to refute an empty and baseless statement like that so you must be right.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:24 PM on 08/20/2008
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spoken like a true Republican or possibly Hillary supporter. In any case you are wrong.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:31 PM on 08/20/2008
- EinChicago I'm a Fan of EinChicago 37 fans permalink

And where is Zogby today to discuss teh latest poll? and what does it show, exactly?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:12 PM on 08/20/2008
- wanj I'm a Fan of wanj 7 fans permalink

I hope you've picked up enough points for a toaster from McCain's thugs!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:31 PM on 08/20/2008
- dexxjones I'm a Fan of dexxjones 22 fans permalink

until he does.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:53 AM on 08/22/2008
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oh, so a dude named "petey" who obviously is going to vote for the dumb guy and who did not answer to one of my questions is somehow "of consequence", but I am not.

Hmmm. Sounds like petey is a real thinker.

Oh, and I did watch Obama Saturday. You know what I noticed? he was HONEST. He didn't tell someone elses' story and claim it was his own, like McSame.

But you know what is saddest, petey? You don't even know anything about any of the issues, and you are likely planning to vote for a guy who will continue to make the rich richer, the corporations richer and more powerful, and here's the kicker petey, will make you poorer. But you are going to vote for him because you look at this as some sort of team sport, and you're rooting for the Texas Republicans, regardless of the fact that their team is made up of rapists.

Yep, petey is a thinker.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:13 PM on 08/20/2008
- MrBluebird I'm a Fan of MrBluebird 2 fans permalink

Better yet why doesn't someone do a poll on Air America's relevance. We, who are proudly of the left wing (call it progressive if you must hide behind a euphemism), in this country don't need the mirror image of the limbaugh/hannity crowd. We need a voice of reason and sanity who will explain the issues and propose reasonable solutions... does this sound like anyone you know.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:12 PM on 08/20/2008
- oldrwizr I'm a Fan of oldrwizr 11 fans permalink

Air America has Rachel Maddow and Thom Hartmann who are both amazingly reasonable and sane, and also Robert F. Kennedy Jr. on RIng of Fire. Great stuff, check them out, you can listen online or on XM satellite radio channel 167.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:01 PM on 08/20/2008
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right on!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:32 PM on 08/20/2008
- dexxjones I'm a Fan of dexxjones 22 fans permalink

oh yes. rachel is a shining example of what can happen when a smart liberal gets a platform. she absolutely ROCKS.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:56 AM on 08/22/2008
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Try listening some time. Therer is no liberal equivalent to those right wing hacks. I'm proudly onthe left too by the way and am constantly battling the stereotype you just perpetuated but coming from the right.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:16 PM on 08/20/2008
- geobushono I'm a Fan of geobushono 15 fans permalink

Excuse me, Mike Malloy draws repug / rightwing blood every night..........in fact he is so persuasive that he was the subject of a recent hit piece right here at Huffpo.........Mike is a true Progressive.right on target about 99% of the time, and his savaging of Obama's turn to the right brought the full force of the reactionaries at Huffpo, who don't have to run the gauntlet of censors.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:34 PM on 08/20/2008

What the country needs is a balance of voices. Period. For the last nearly 30 years right-wing radio has dominated the market. It wasn't until 2004 that Air America even got its start. The right-wing has had 30 years to work with corporate media to transform a nation of intelligent critical thinkers into a nation of reality shows and whale sized jumbo meals.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:02 PM on 08/20/2008
- FdeBear I'm a Fan of FdeBear 51 fans permalink

Yeah, listen to Thom Hartman and the whole spectrum of talent on Air America. Go to the website. You'll find what you are looking for there. In contrast to limbaugh, hannity, and turds like Michael the Savage Weiner, I can't stand them because they are liars, fearmongerers and appeal the lowest among us. Check out Nova M Radio. I swear if I didn't have my XM radios I'd go nuts.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:16 AM on 08/23/2008

Air America was taken off the air in Madison, Wisconsin. Pretty sad when the most liberal city in America won't even listen. Air America, the MSNBC of radio.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:06 PM on 08/20/2008
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Better the MSNBC than the Faux.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:21 PM on 08/20/2008
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It was taken off the air in Mdison because ownership didn't like what they heard. So much for free markets. They aren't as interested in making a profit if they can silence dissent.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:18 PM on 08/20/2008
- meanguy I'm a Fan of meanguy 17 fans permalink

"They aren't as interested in making a profit if they can silence dissent"
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when has 'progressive' radio ever generated a profit?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:25 AM on 08/25/2008
- BillCarson I'm a Fan of BillCarson 5 fans permalink
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Air America is still on the air in Madison...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WXXM

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:33 PM on 08/20/2008
- meanguy I'm a Fan of meanguy 17 fans permalink

did anyone notice?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:56 AM on 08/21/2008
- FdeBear I'm a Fan of FdeBear 51 fans permalink

This not only happened in Madison, but Columbus and Phoenix - though in Phoenix, listeners turned it around. Most of your station owners are conservatives, so they put on what they want. However, their affiliate list continues to grow. You aren't or refuse to pay attention to what is really going on. You are uninformed and probably happy to be that way.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:22 AM on 08/23/2008
- FdeBear I'm a Fan of FdeBear 51 fans permalink

This not only happened in Madison temporarily, but Columbus and Phoenix - though in Phoenix, listeners turned it around. Most of your station owners are conservatives, so they put on what they want. However, their affiliate list continues to grow. You aren't or refuse to pay attention to what is really going on. You are uninformed and probably happy to be that way. Progressive radio personalities appearances in affiliate cities are attracting thousands.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:28 AM on 08/23/2008

5,535 means each listener took the poll 100 times.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:03 PM on 08/20/2008
- kellygrrrl I'm a Fan of kellygrrrl 644 fans permalink
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interesting. what would be really fun, just for Gits and Shiggles, run this alongside a poll from the Rush crowd.

America is more divided than ever.
The intolerance on both sides is growing to fever pitch.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:58 PM on 08/20/2008
- GeoLee I'm a Fan of GeoLee 67 fans permalink

Intolerance for the other side is not just related to the right and left (republican vs democrat). I read a lot of intolerant statements right here, even from you, right within our own party of the "other side" and frankly am sick of the democratic intelorance of other democrats that exists today in the vp pick. The one thing I can say is that the unityspeak is a farce here, sadly. The bitterness of posters and lack of respect for each other during the primary will haunt us in November and is a point of shame and that both candidates did not speak out to their supporters to stop the divisive talk is someting I will not forgive easily. As Pogo once said, ""e have faced the enemy and it is us"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:21 PM on 08/20/2008

Oh, we are going to wait until 2012 and get Hilliary. Just one question: What will John McCain have done to America in the interim. So all think this is funny. We will see who will be laughing in 4 years. We will have put another F person in the White House. Make a fool of me once shame on you make a fool of me twice shame on me.

GOD PLEASE BLESS AMERICA!! COULD THIS BE THE END OF OUR TIME.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:18 PM on 08/20/2008
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You're wrong.

And who gives a damn about the first female president. You prop it up like gender actually makes a difference in policy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:36 PM on 08/20/2008
- edwarvir I'm a Fan of edwarvir 36 fans permalink

Nothing worse than SniperHill would have done, but thank GOD he sent
us an intelligent wonderful smart sweet truth telling Young black Man
Barack Obama 2009 With the good judgement not to put this liar on his
ticket

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:39 PM on 08/20/2008
- kellygrrrl I'm a Fan of kellygrrrl 644 fans permalink
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personally, I do not see how this planet could survive 4 more years of Ne0C0n agenda

unless MkKain is going to pull fast one on the neogang, and suddenly revert back to Maverick,
then 2012 is almost a nonissue, IMO

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:54 PM on 08/20/2008
- meanguy I'm a Fan of meanguy 17 fans permalink

2012 is almost a nonissue, IMO
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your sanity is starting to become the issue

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:54 AM on 08/25/2008
- teasley I'm a Fan of teasley 7 fans permalink

lighten up! "The end of our time." Carter couldn't desroy the country in 4 years, I don't even think Obama could.This gets so old. Every election, if your candidate doesn't win the country will be destroyed. Has it occurred to any of you that people have most likely said the same thing every 4 years for over 200 years.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:26 PM on 08/20/2008
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Perhaps but our fear is justified this time around.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:18 PM on 08/20/2008
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But we have all seen it's beginning truths in the previous eight!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:27 PM on 08/20/2008
- optech007 I'm a Fan of optech007 6 fans permalink

6.7% of the people polled think the the election winner will have less than 268 electoral votes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:10 PM on 08/20/2008

when that percent is taken with the number of respondents who will vote for Barr, McSame, and Nader, it evens out rather nicely. shows why progressives are natural born leaders and people who think givernment is the prioblem should not be allowed to get elected to prove their point.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:23 PM on 08/20/2008
- GeoLee I'm a Fan of GeoLee 67 fans permalink

It would be better to leave "should"and "ought" home when discussing these issues.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:25 PM on 08/20/2008

I thought that was odd too. But it is possible if a 3rd party candidate took a state or 2. Now, why do people think that's more possible than an electoral tie? I have no idea...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:33 PM on 08/20/2008
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That, in itself, is very telling......among the industrialized nations of the world, the U.S. must have the least politically-savvy voters

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:57 PM on 08/20/2008
- Swedishgal I'm a Fan of Swedishgal 17 fans permalink

That's obvious. I'm mean we did get Bushed for 8 years which tells me we're not dealing with voters that are very intelligent and are easily scared.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:55 PM on 08/20/2008
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Air America? Bulls#it! More like Radio DLC.

Mark Green ran for Mayor of New York and the New York Democratic Party endorsed the Republican candidate. Nuff said.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:08 PM on 08/20/2008
- bluzz I'm a Fan of bluzz 2 fans permalink

Air America is more objective than your radio right heroes - Fatty Limbaugh and that flouter hannity only give one side of the story and omit huge chunks of issues to prop up their flimsy cases. Air America, at least, gives both sides of the story and than what the overall opinion is.

Not one of my radio right friend shad even heard about the "enron loophole" and how it will save almost $1 immediately to the cost of a gallon of gas....why is that hmmmmmmmmmm. they also didn't know that almost 80% of available oil leases in the gulf were not being drilled so, why do they need more hmmmmmmmmmmmm.

The repugs are only for business interests and try to spin everyone else with BS, I feel sorry for those who are foolish enough to believe it!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:52 PM on 08/20/2008
- UnbiasView I'm a Fan of UnbiasView 20 fans permalink

"Air America is more objective than your radio right heroes - Fatty Limbaugh and that flouter hannity only give one side of the story and omit huge chunks of issues to prop up their flimsy cases. Air America, at least, gives both sides of the story and than what the overall opinion is."

Wow, I listened to Thom Hartmann the other day and thought the same thing about him.

Talking how great windmills in Denmark are . . . leaving out they pay more for energy than any other country in the world because of the high cost of them.

Neither is a legit source of info, just opinions.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:07 PM on 08/20/2008
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I'm not a Reich-Winger, I'm a Progressive Populist. To paraphrase Felix Unger, "Never AssUMe things" it makes an A$$ of U and pi$$es ME off

Mark Green is a shill for the DLC, a failure as a member of the Democratic Party, as a Democratic candidate, and as the head of his little fiefdom - Radio DLC. He wouldn't recognize a Progressive if Molly Ivins rose from the grave and kicked his sorry Corporat-O-Crat a$$ from New York to Austin.

I listen to the Jones Radio network & NovaM. I stream Rachel Maddow from KPHX even though I live in the Midwest (aint that Inter-Web thingie grand?).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:52 AM on 08/21/2008
- dexxjones I'm a Fan of dexxjones 22 fans permalink

only the management and even so, they're still better than any at msm. rachel isnt dlc. nor is hartman or young turks.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:57 AM on 08/22/2008
- FdeBear I'm a Fan of FdeBear 51 fans permalink

So what are Limbaugh, Hannity, et al. Limbaugh readily admits he's a shill and a water carrier for the Republican Party. They all repeat the same talking points and repeat them like good Nazis. I haven't heard one host on Air America not challenge listeners to use their own intelligence and fact find for themselves. They back up their stuff with solid sources. You cannot say the same about right-wing radio. But if you're not interested in using your brain, you are probably more confortable filling your head with Savage and O'Reilly's regurgitations.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:37 AM on 08/23/2008
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