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Governor Rick Perry: America Love It or Leave It?

Posted: 08/22/11 08:34 PM ET

How ironic is the recent call for the secession of Texas from the United States by Republican Governor Rick Perry, who recently announced his candidacy for the presidency of the United States? And why should we think about this attitude in relation to recent debates about revisiting the birthright clause of the 14th Amendment to the Constitution?

In two separate incidents Perry has invoked secession as an option for Texas. In reference to the policies of President Obama, he first stated:

There's a lot of different scenarios. We've got a great union. There's absolutely no reason to dissolve it. But if Washington continues to thumb their nose at the American people, you know, who knows what might come out of that. But Texas is a very unique place, and we're a pretty independent lot to boot.

If there is any doubt that his reference to Texas as a land of independent minded folk only alluded to their free-thinking, Perry subsequently was quoted at a meeting of governors as stating "When we [Texas] came into the nation in 1845, we were a republic, we were a stand-alone nation. And one of the deals was, we can leave anytime we want. So we're kind of thinking about that again."
Perry stated just last week that, "I think you want a president who is passionate about America -- that's in love with America." He then called Obama the "greatest threat to our country." And when asked by reporters if he was suggesting Obama did not love America, Perry quipped, ""You need to ask him."

In thinking seriously about Perry's advocating for secession, we should consider his claims historically and globally to determine their uniqueness. Secessionist movements have usually emerged from the breakup of empires and resulting cultural, religious and ethnic tensions. Secessionist movements sometimes lead to national plebiscites, but more often to civil war. Sudan is one contemporary example of a secessionist movement leading to civil war. Secessionists in Quebec, Canada strongly believed that their linguistic and cultural differences and discrimination against them based on these differences demanded a separate and autonomous state. Their movement was defeated in part by plebiscite.

The short-lived republic of Biafra was the result of a secessionist movement in the oil rich, ethnically diverse, eastern region of Nigeria. A civil war lasting for nearly three years between Biafran troops and the Nigerian army resulted in mass slaughter. Another example is the Spanish Civil War, which led to the defeat of Republican forces in Catalunya, Spain by the Falangist forces of Francisco Franco. In a sense, the Falangists got two for one: the takeover of the Spanish republic and the repression of Catalan nationalism. Ernest Hemingway and George Orwell, among others, noted the irony of Catalunya, a region filled with nationalists who wanted their own state separate from Spain, as the last stronghold for Spanish Republicanism. Two generations would pass before Catalan, the national language, could be taught in the universities and serve as the official language of the region.

What we find unique about many American secessionist ideologies and movements is their explicit and implicit references to the nation -- rather than the government -- of the United States. The federal government is now led by a black man whose birthright claim continues to be treated with suspicion by some on the right, who also believe that Obama's policies are robbing the nation of its material and human resources. Thus, Perry can claim to be a Patriot and a secessionist in the same breath, because he is suggesting that America is in the hands of an un-American alien of sorts acting against the interests of "real" Americans.

Perry's historical reference raises the specters of racism, slavery and colonialism, deeply intertwined with Texas' history as a Republic. Texas became an independent Republic in 1836 in part to thwart Mexican abolition and build a cotton kingdom in Texas. It became a republic for a second time in 1861 when it voted to join the confederacy in defense of slavery. Part of the stunning denials in the commemoration of the end of Civil War is the actual role of slavery as its principal cause, evidenced in the suggestion by presidential candidate Michele Bachmann that the founding fathers -- the crafters of the constitution -- "worked tirelessly" to end the institution of slavery, despite all evidence to the contrary. Thus, we believe that one of the core aspirations of secessionist claims then and now is a desire to be "free" to live as one wishes, even if this "freedom" is based on massive inequalities.

In this country, as well as others, anti-immigrant, racist and xenophobic fantasies often lurk within secessionist claims. In Italy, a movement in Lombardy called the Northern League has sought to secede from Italy and create the republic of Padania. According to its leader Umberto Bossi, the Italian north, and Lombardy in particular, is weighted down by an inefficient south, filled with Mafiosi, corrupt officials and a lazy work force. Worse still, he argues, is the influx of immigrants from North Africa and the Middle East, which further threatens Lombardy's cultural patrimony and economic stability.

Like the National Front in France in recent years, the Northern League has made some inroads into national politics, gaining political respectability through coalitions with other more centrist and leftist political parties. Their anti-immigrant stance is ironic given that falling birth rates in Italy, as in many EU countries, means that there simply are not enough people to fill jobs, particularly semi-skilled ones, and many immigrants now work in Lombardy's capital, Milan which recently has had several violent incidents involving attacks on African immigrants. These incidents, coupled with the visibility of the Northern League and similarly inclined organizations and people, has led to voluble debate in Italy over what it means to be Italian in the 21st century.

So how is it that a candidate for the presidency of the United States can simultaneously proclaim allegiance to the very office and country he has hinted at leaving? According to U.S. secessionist logic, if Barack Obama's presidency is "un-American," it makes sense for the Rick Perry's of the United States to want to break away from a nation-state they no longer recognize as their own. But then why run for president? Perhaps as in the case of the Northern League and Umberto Bossi, Perry and other secessionists want once again to proclaim this land as their own, but solely with "their own" people at the helm and living within its borders.

Michael Hanchard, Dept. of Political Science, Johns Hopkins University, Director of Racism, Immigration and Citizenship; Mark Sawyer, Dept. of Political Science, UCLA, Director of The Center for the Study of Race, Ethnicity and Politics.

 

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How ironic is the recent call for the secession of Texas from the United States by Republican Governor Rick Perry, who recently announced his candidacy for the presidency of the United States? And why...
How ironic is the recent call for the secession of Texas from the United States by Republican Governor Rick Perry, who recently announced his candidacy for the presidency of the United States? And why...
 
 
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Chief Imperial Sage, Earth, Milky Way Quadrant
03:37 PM on 08/24/2011
Perry = Bush Junior. The USA, if he was elected, would get the same failed economic policies that led to Junior's September 2008 speech in which he told us that the economy had tanked and he needed $1 Trillion to bailout the big banks. Remember? Bushonomics landed us in this recession in the first place.

The last time secession was tried at least 620,000 Americans lost their lives. Anyone who suggests secession as a remedy for what ills us has no answers worth considering, true?
11:41 AM on 08/24/2011
How about a "none of the above" box on the ballot? Seems no-one that has run for the office in the last 30 years has given a da-n about the working class in this country. It's always been like the last election, the lesser of two evils and neither one worthy of the office.
07:24 AM on 08/24/2011
Texas does NOT need to leave our Great nation. We must work hard to make our nation like Texas. The first step will be electing a TRUE Conservative gov from Texas.
thebigbike
ran away to be a cowboy
11:43 PM on 08/24/2011
well, now if parts of the Great Nation become more like Texas, do the other parts have the right to secede? And it seems fair to me that we cast doubt on rickybob's actual status as an American, since he's from Texas? He certainly has made statements that would support the conclusion that his loyalties are first to Texas before they are to the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
03:53 PM on 08/23/2011
If Rick Perry wants Texas to secede from the US, then we should let it happen. Texas is so unlike any other state in the Union, for the other 49 to act, and vote, and live like they do....N _ O , NO!
Besides, I don't believe the majority of Americans want a evangelical fanatic in the White House....neither Perry nor Bachmann. That is what frightens me the most. If moderates and liberals don't make their voices heard, a bunch of crazy religious fanatics may wisk themselves into the WH.
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tiny-piddles
12:05 PM on 08/23/2011
I think much and more is being made of this "secession" thing. It was merely a talking point. And in typical native Texan speak, it was just a hint at something, not a declaration of things to come. The secession comment was made in reference to the displeasure felt towards the government...not our country. And how many times have we all expressed our dissatisfaction with the government, right here in the blogs? I have no doubt that Perry loves both Texas and this country.

But this whole conversation has jogged my memory a bit. Wasn't the wife of a certain politician quoted as saying, after her husband was sworn in, that "This is the first time I have ever loved this country."?
11:54 PM on 08/23/2011
Not the same as secession. Treason.. "This the first time in my adult life." And she was not running for office. Rick Perry is a secessionist - Love the Lone Star and not the Stars and Stripes. Well until he needs money from the feds then he is first in line for a hand out.
04:30 PM on 08/26/2011
I wish Texas would succeed. I would vote to let them go.
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coreten
11:26 AM on 08/23/2011
How else one can apply for a huge foreign aid? He was just jealous of Pakistan.
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FLECKENSTEIN44
Pointing out the hypocrisy of the Left and Right
11:08 AM on 08/23/2011
Alot of trash talking about Texas. i can see why they want to leave if i was a Texan and i had to put up with your guys crap i wouldn't want to stay in the union either.

Texas if you leave take Michigan with you please.
12:02 AM on 08/24/2011
Are Texans and yore self so thin skinned that you can't take trash talking? Texas needed help from the US to become a Territory. They manufactured a crisis based on greed and lies. They need us we don't need them. Secede. That way Perry can't run for the President Of the United States. It's all good.
thebigbike
ran away to be a cowboy
11:45 PM on 08/24/2011
have you ever been to texas and listened to them texicans trash talkin about everybody else? Any less than complimentary rhetoric is only a little bit of payback.. and having lived and worked in texas, and having relatives in texas, frankly the payback has a long way to go to balance out
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reedshelby
man may dismiss compassion from the heart, but God
09:37 AM on 08/23/2011
Odd he should imply that Obama does not love America when it is very apparent that he does not love America...only Texas. Perry is about as ignorant as they come...and I thought Bush used to make kooky statements. Perry takes the cake.
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Chief Imperial Sage, Earth, Milky Way Quadrant
03:40 PM on 08/24/2011
Exactly. To support secession from the USA is to hate the USA. Next thing we know, Perry will burn the American flag too.
08:42 AM on 08/23/2011
Let's put it to a vote! No, I don't mean Texans - I mean the people of the other 49 states.

Texans - be careful what you wish for....

Advantage: No more Texans born after separation date and living in Texas could run for president. I suppose we would have to allow those that wanted to leave, the opportunity; up until a certain date. Though, they should be maybe be given de-programming and an education in evolution ;)

Disadvantage: Clearing immigration at DFW to visit your cousins and uhmm, well, ahhhh, hmmm - not much else that I can think of.

Just kidding - IMO, keeping Texas outweighs trying to get rid of it. Of course, I reserve the right to change my mind in the future.
Linda from Deerfield
Paying attention
08:08 AM on 08/23/2011
I see this a lot in people who associate themselves with the tea party -- they claim great patriotism and love for America, but they detest so much of what this nation is. I cannot find what it is that they love -- certainly, it is not the people. I have concluded that what they love is the dirt.
07:51 AM on 08/23/2011
Any person whether Democrat or Republican, who advocates for seccession should not be allowed to run for President. If you want to leave, why would people want you to lead?
been2there
Facts have a liberal bias.
02:45 AM on 08/23/2011
And if Texas leaves the Union, the rest of us SAVE money, because they get more in help than they pay in taxes. That means that Texas would instantly be broke. Nah, no leaving for Texas.
Linda from Deerfield
Paying attention
08:11 AM on 08/23/2011
Not to mention that T Boone Pickens wants to sell them water from a major Midwestern fossil aquifer.
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Chief Imperial Sage, Earth, Milky Way Quadrant
03:42 PM on 08/24/2011
True. Red States, on average, take more federal money per capita than Blue States do. It is the Blue Staters who are more likely to pay their own way without government support.
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c-tom
Badges we don't need no stinking badges
01:52 AM on 08/23/2011
"So how is it that a candidate for the presidency of the United States can simultaneously proclaim allegiance to the very office and country he has hinted at leaving?"
Perry never listens to what he's saying and expects the same of his supporters.
08:02 AM on 08/24/2011
You are correct; he speaks from his behind which is what we do not need as a leader.
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Walrus Man
01:36 AM on 08/23/2011
Children say what they did, men and women what we do and politicians.... They say what they are going to do. A good candidate must see beyond her/his nose and think and do the best for her/ his Country not for a party. Must be just, impartial and fair according to the law and equity, since we human beings are all equal.
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Soulmentor
"To thine own self be true...."
12:29 AM on 08/23/2011
Perry and Bachman?
"When fascism comes to America it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis.

In this case, it means theocratic fascism. Just keep that quote running thru your mind for the next year and a half and you will (please God) vote appropriately. Lewis' words look more prescient by the hour.”