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"That Girl" 45 Years Later -- Who Are the Game Changers This TV Season?

Posted: 09/26/11 10:02 AM ET

I received an email wishing me a happy 45th anniversary the other day and my first thought was, "Phil and I have only been married for 30 years." And then I realized it wasn't my wedding they were talking about -- it was the anniversary of "That Girl."

Hard to believe now but 45 years ago, my character Ann Marie, was the only girl in town. In this season's television lineup, there are nearly a dozen new shows starring bright, funny young women: "New Girl," "2 Broke Girls," "Whitney," and others. And as they did with Ann Marie, the young women watching today will not only be entertained by these "girls", they'll also think, "Hey, that's me!" Or, " Wow, that could be me!" And that is one of the best things television can do: give people a chance to see themselves transformed. And to let ideas and characters come from below the surface and say, "I am here! See me!"

Ann Marie seemed like a revolutionary figure at the time but, in truth, every home had a "That Girl" in it. She was the right character for that moment in time. She moved away from the traditional idea of a young woman in the society -- she was independent, living alone, not defined by her family. She was out in the world and working for the life she wanted. She was making her own choices.

Because of the collective wisdom of all of us working on the show -- co-creator Bill Persky who grew up side by side with a sister and then raised three daughters of his own, our story editor Ruth Brooks Flippen with her experience of trying to make it in a male dominated television writing community, and me, who had fought for my independence in an old-fashioned Dad Is Boss, Mom Agrees atmosphere -- we had each lived different parts of the old story ... and brought with us the passion needed to change it.

There I was playing a young woman just starting her life in the big city, struggling to get an acting job -- any acting job. And today there's Tina Fey as Liz Lemon. Liz not only has a good job on a show, she's running the show. I can't help but wonder if producer Liz would have hired actress Ann Marie? I was a great dancing chicken. And she should have seen me as a singing mop!

Bill Persky said at the time, "'That Girl' threw a hand grenade into the bunker, and all the other female characters walked right through."

Every generation has it's own grenade throwers. Chris Colfer is one as the scene-stealing Kurt Hummel on Glee -- a character that truly impacts the lives of gay teenagers. And the loving gay couple on Modern Family. These characters show us television's willingness -- however late-coming -- to embrace gay people and their relationships

When I think of the 45th anniversary of "That Girl", I like to envision a fabulous dinner party with all the women who followed Ann Marie. Mary Richards would be there, throwing her cap up in the air. Kate & Allie, who represented the first contemporary single moms on TV, would be there, too (they'd have to get a sitter, but still). I can see Ann worrying about Rosanne, who's pretty outspoken and wondering if she'd like anyone. But then sitting her next to Murphy Brown, who's got a few opinions of her own, and watching those two get along great. And then she'd put Rachel from Friends next to Carrie Bradshaw. We'd invite Donald -- but of course, he couldn't stay over. And Mr Big who could.

What a great celebration it would be. And I know every one of those women would love hanging out with each other. After all, they're all from the same family tree. And I'm sure someone would make a toast -- probably Roseanne -- who always calls it as it is. And her toast would be, "Here's to television! May it always do what it can do better than anything, open the doors to what is truly happening in America, so everyone watching can say, "Hey, that's me!" or "Wow, that could be me!"

So here's to a great new TV season. Hope you see someone you know!


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I received an email wishing me a happy 45th anniversary the other day and my first thought was, "Phil and I have only been married for 30 years." And then I realized it wasn't my wedding they were ta...
I received an email wishing me a happy 45th anniversary the other day and my first thought was, "Phil and I have only been married for 30 years." And then I realized it wasn't my wedding they were ta...
 
 
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coffee tea
07:33 PM on 10/03/2011
Congratulations to you, Marlo! Those were the glory years, and everyone will always remember that show. Television hasn't quite been the same since. How about a new show, That Girl, 45 Years Later! Sounds like a plan :) And you're still just as beautiful, inside and out..
07:27 PM on 10/03/2011
Women game changers in TV and it's all about fantasy...just great!
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Olderandwiser55
getting older and wiser....
11:56 AM on 10/03/2011
I'm getting over the complete shock that so many commenters had anything negative to say.....

Marlo, I loved That Girl, I love your other work with St Jude's etc....and thank you!
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langstonhughesfan
11:10 PM on 10/02/2011
Diamonds, daisies, snowflakes...THAT GIRL! I loved this show as a kid watching it in reruns. Total fantasy--an actor living on her own with very few actual acting jobs, in that huge apartment, with a boyfriend who is always content to kiss her goodnight at the door. But it was a fun show and I have always loved her work.
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09:10 PM on 10/02/2011
Ms Thomas is very kind to herself. That Girl was no "game changer" or "grenade thrower" or whatever silly buzz phrase she choose to use to describe the so-called ground breaking nature of the mediocre sitcom she starred in 30+ years ago. Popular culture follows social change, it's never the other way around. And even then, it does so weakly and with such a lag that by the time it can be presented, it's both so tepid as to not have anything important to say and neither is it relevant.

It was just a TV show, like so many others before and since. Nothing special. Get over yourself, Marlo.
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Olderandwiser55
getting older and wiser....
11:58 AM on 10/03/2011
Blahblah is a perfect name for you! (get over yourself)
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DungBeetle
Rolling Neocons Into A Ball
06:34 PM on 10/02/2011
That Relic.
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firewmn
~now you're play'n with fire~
06:11 PM on 10/02/2011
I heart "That Girl"... (the originals and yes, I just dated myself)..lol
03:14 PM on 10/02/2011
I always thought that Ms. Thomas' character as being a single, career gal in the big city pre-dating Mary Tyler Moore is denied it's cultural significance because it seems that Moore's character is the one that is given most of the credit for breaking ground for women's roles in T.V.
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Jeanne Ball
Teacher of meditation, David Lynch Foundation
02:56 PM on 10/02/2011
The That Girl culture was an exciting time when women were finding their independence a novelty. Since then, the reality is that we have more women on anti-depressents than ever before. In the last 5 years women outpaced men in stress levels according to the 2010 American Psychiatric Association survey. There's no turning back, but there is "turning inward," and strengthening our outer lives through meditation. As a teacher of meditation for women, I see women fueling the demands of their success by adding a meditation practice to their lives and gaining deep rejuvenating rest and energy from within.
02:28 PM on 10/02/2011
I've always wondered if the creators of Sex and the City were That Girl fans! Both shows were about a very independent attractive single youngish woman who wore a different fashionable ensemble in every scene, had a steady boyfriend (who did not dominate her), afforded a fabulous apartment in New York somehow without being wealthy, etc. etc. Yes, there were differences of course and societal mores changed drastically between the series, but still....
ydrittmann
Vitter patronizes women.
12:47 PM on 10/02/2011
I was a young viewer and no doubt influenced by "That Girl's" message. That being said, "Whitney " is setting women and comedy back fifty years.
12:02 PM on 10/02/2011
I grew up watching 'That Girl' and never thought about how revolutionary its message was - it just seemed a normal reflection of my world at the time. Still, I have to say that times have changed considerably, and not for the better. There is a big difference between Ann Marie and the young girls being portrayed on today's shows. First, Ann Marie didn't actually want to get married, so she didn't sit around bemoaning the lack of good men around; she just got on with her life. In today's world, all of the young girls on TV complain about not being able to find a good man - so their singledom is actually not a choice. That is not liberation, that's resignation. Ann Marie was far ahead of any of the women portrayed on TV today.

PS - I have always loved Marlo (and hubby Phil). Good people.
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Olderandwiser55
getting older and wiser....
12:02 PM on 10/03/2011
That really was the big difference. There is a more desperate "gotta have a man" in today's pop culture.

Yup, good people, those two!
11:34 AM on 10/02/2011
Um, why exactly is Jennifer Aniston in that mix.
11:10 AM on 09/30/2011
Marlo Thomas' last book has some very good jokes in it. The hardest part about it is hearing her say how hilarious Danny Thomas was. The guy was of his time and generation I guess. But his comedy is painful to watch.
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kapalabhati
Lokah Samasta Sukhino Bhavantu
03:05 PM on 10/02/2011
Wow, way to dis a woman's dad in response to her blog post. Just because you CAN say something doesn't mean that you should.
09:46 AM on 09/29/2011
As I looked through the slide show, I noticed that there was no mention of any black television shows. No one mentioned Phylicia Rashad and her role as Claire Huxtable (Cosby Show) or JoMarie Peyton and her role as Harriett Winslow (Family Matters). I wonder why that is...
11:06 AM on 10/02/2011
Maybe she wasn't a big fan of those shows, ever consider that? I watched the Cosby Show a few times, yes i know it was tops for like a decade, but I just didn't enjoy it. I have loved Bill since "I Spy". I guess I'm one of the few who enjoyed his "The Bill Cosby Show", and I love the wisdom and humor of his stand up routines. Plus the man is into Jazz, what's better than that? And yet, the Cosby Show never interested me.

Maybe it's like "The Office". A wildly popular show by any measusre. Yet I honestly can't stand it. I have tried some 4 times to watch and can never get past about 5 minutes. I just don't get the humor at all. To me it's awful and I'm shocked it survived even one full season.
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Lokah Samasta Sukhino Bhavantu
03:09 PM on 10/02/2011
Well, for starters, this is a blog post about a single woman headlining a show, not about a wife in a program in which the headlining character was a married man.... Now, "Julia?" That's where I immediately connected the dots. Julia premiered in 1968, 2 years after "That Girl."
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sector1463
08:04 PM on 10/02/2011
She mentions Roseanne!!!
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Venicelady
Ignorance is NOT bliss.
12:06 AM on 10/10/2011
I was thinking of "Julia", myself.

Do you remember the name of the actress that played "Julia"? Wasn't the show about a single mother that worked as a nurse?