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You Know It's Good When the Boys Want in

Posted: 04/28/11 07:00 AM ET

Don't get me wrong, I love men. I even married one. And I love the boys in my life -- my four stepsons, my adorable nephews and godsons, and all those great guy friends who help make my life fun and funny.

But I do have to admit that I experienced a difficult moment in 2003, when after 10 years of success, the brainchild of the Ms. Foundation, Take Our Daughters to Work Day, was pressured into becoming Take Our Daughters and Sons to Work Day. I was shocked. There was a vital reason this program was created specifically for girls. It was in response to a very disturbing Harvard study by Dr. Carol Gilligan -- and research conducted at the University of Minnesota -- showing that as girls approached adolescence, at around 11 years of age, they stopped raising their hands in class; they began losing their self-esteem, their confidence, and their interest in math, science and technology. As a result, the report said, as the girls' academic curiosity plummeted, so did their chance of being equipped for meaningful future employment.

After all the hard-won battles fought for women, how could we let this happen to girls?

Like a lot of women my age, it reminded me of the low expectations that were thrust on us when we were growing up. I'll never forget struggling with a math problem when I was in the 7th grade at Marymount, and complaining to the math nun about it.

"Don't worry, dear," she said to me. "You won't need it."

Talk about low expectations.

Poring over the research, the Ms. Foundation, under the tenacious leadership of Marie Wilson, began strategizing what to do about this report. Marie brought in consultant Nell Merlino, who told us about a top newsman who would take his young daughter with him to important events, and how proud and worthwhile she felt at being included. This story really clicked with us -- from it we envisioned a program that would encourage caring adults to mentor and safely escort adolescent girls through this perilous passage. It would be called Take Our Daughters to Work Day; and we pointedly used the words "Our Daughters" -- not "Your Daughters" -- so the day would embrace all of the girls in our lives, whether they were nieces or granddaughters or even neighbors.

Most important, mothers and fathers knew that something was going on with their daughters that wasn't quite right. And now this program would give them something to do about it. There's nothing like the truth to set a movement on fire. Those parents helped to bring their businesses and corporations on board. Then Gloria Steinem (who along with Letty Pogrebin, Pat Carbine and myself were the founders of the Ms. Foundation) told a reporter at Parade about the campaign, and the magazine ran a small piece about it. That's when the calls began flooding in.

I'll always remember that first Take Our Daughters to Work Day. Girls were everywhere! In firehouses, on ferry boats, at desks in magazine editorial offices, backstage at theaters. It was thrilling.

And the stories coming out of the day were indelible. Like the story about 10-year-old Shelby from Lubbock, Texas, who accompanied her dad to his job as a car salesman at a Cadillac dealership:

I remember him letting me 'help' move the cars around the showroom floor. But my most enduring memory was the moment I realized that the women who worked there only sat at their desks and typed, and didn't get to drive cars around inside the building. This experience foreshadowed my career, because it reminded me to always ask: "What about the women?"


As an awareness campaign, it was a resounding success. As a cultural movement, it was historic. I remember a letter someone wrote to the New York Times, heralding the day "not [as] an exercise in pretending that women don't need men; it is an acknowledgment that womanhood begins in girlhood." I loved that.

But almost immediately, we began hearing faint murmurs: "What about the boys?" It was a reasonable question for those who hadn't read the research, but even so, it troubled us. Of course we cared about boys. Our "Free to Be... You and Me" projects were all about encouraging the hopes and dreams of both girls and boys. But our argument was solid: Back then, boys always joined their dads at the office, or even accompanied them on golf outings with their business partners. The idea of bringing girls into the work world was something groundbreaking and lifesaving.

We stuck to our guns for a decade, but by 2003, the pressure had gotten too great. And so we expanded the program to bring boys into the fold. Leave it to Gloria to sum up our feelings at the time with her characteristic wit: "It was the first thing girls had that boys wanted. So you know it's good when the boys want in."

So the boys are in. But in many respects, the girls are still out. While women obtain the majority of college degrees, they represent only 15 percent of senior management in all industries. And what about the lack of confidence among girls in math and science reported in 1993? Today, only 22 percent of computer-science graduates are women. According to a 2008 National Science Foundation study, that percentage has been decreasing steadily.

So the question now is not about the boys. The question remains: How do we insure the future for girls? That's what makes this day important.

Eighteen years after its founding, I'm still proud of our revolutionary program, which just last year engaged 36 millions kids -- girls and boys. Most important, it has truly raised the consciousness of the business world that it must open its arms -- and its doors -- to girls in the workplace.

And, yes, I've come around to thinking that it's good that boys are getting used to sharing floor space with the girls. Because, if things go right, someday they'll be working for them.


To support the annual Take Our Daughters and Sons to Work Day, log on at www.DaughtersAndSonsToWork.org and find out how you can bring the program to your community and help with fundraising efforts.

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Don't get me wrong, I love men. I even married one. And I love the boys in my life -- my four stepsons, my adorable nephews and godsons, and all those great guy friends who help make my life fun and f...
Don't get me wrong, I love men. I even married one. And I love the boys in my life -- my four stepsons, my adorable nephews and godsons, and all those great guy friends who help make my life fun and f...
 
 
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02:00 AM on 06/26/2011
Discrimination is fine when it all goes your way...
07:13 AM on 06/14/2011
Woman good. Man bad.
08:15 AM on 05/10/2011
Considering what is going on with our young men. How they are dropping out and not being able to compete we need to be pushing and encouraging our boys as wells as girls.

Quit creating a divide and look at what all our children need. Please understand what they needed 10-20 years ago is different than today.

Many feminist has such a narrow view they cannot see what is happening to our kids and minorities that they are only helping white women, no black, Hispanic, Asian, minorities.
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Dots
The shadow of God is beauty.
11:44 AM on 05/09/2011
Brilliant book by Carol Gilligan slanted toward understanding and helping girls, The Birth of Pleasure.
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LabRat
Common sense ain't
07:44 AM on 05/08/2011
Take your child to work day has been ... regimented so to speak, at the Army installation I work at. I barely saw any of the kids, they were being kept so busy and out of the way.

Ok, except the menthos/diet coke "physics lesson" out front.
07:52 PM on 05/06/2011
What would be nice is if those of us who have chosen not to have children could take the day off so we didn't have to be exposed to the little brats. It's a place of business, not a daycare.
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masquedbunny
04:11 PM on 05/06/2011
My parents couldn't really do this with me when I was growing up. They both worked as chemists in pharmaceutical laboratories. Due to all the array of chemicals, there were very strict rules about non-personnel in the lab.
02:30 PM on 05/04/2011
Ms. Thomas,

Your feminist sexism is showing.

You wrote in the last line, "And, yes, I've come around to thinking that it's good that boys are getting used to sharing floor space with the girls. Because, if things go right, someday they'll be working for them."

Just because 40% of college degrees go to men doesn't mean that 40% of women won't be working for a man. I wouldn't work for a woman, like you apparently, who thinks that 40% is 0%. And I'm rather curious why you don't think that 40% should go back to 50%.
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04:21 PM on 05/03/2011
The best person who ever took me to work was Marlo Thomas. I was living at a girl's shelter (Maryvale) and she brought a bus load of us to her show "That Girl." I still treasure the photo that she gave each of us with her standing next to us while we ate. Thanks Marlo.
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grn1
09:51 AM on 05/03/2011
You forgot to mention your brother. He gave me an opportunity and a place to work. He also allowed me to bring my children to work with me. Thanks Tony
libertyanne
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08:19 AM on 05/03/2011
It's fine to talk any child to see the work place. Just explain the pay gap and history of women and work. No reason why our boys shouldn't know what their mothers and grandmothers faced throughout the years. It could make them more compassionate.
12:31 AM on 05/03/2011
I feel that both boys and girls, men and women should work together instead of being separated. I have found that in some cases, men work better with women, and women work better with men. It shouldnt be call Take Your Daughter, or Take Your Son to Work Day, it should be Take Your Child to Work Day! Why should children be separated into whatever gender they are? In the real life, men are going to interact with women on a daily basis, so why do we postpone the essential maturing of our children? I feel that one gender should be encouraged to to interact with the other gender, because this will prepare them better for later on in their lives, and it will increase comfortability in the presence of the other gender, and it will allow them to mature faster. There are so many times where parents dont look towards their childs future, they may look at college and careers, but they dont pay attention to the everyday workings that their kids will encounter as adults. I think we should stop separating children based on their gender and I propose that we encourage children to have fun, and play with someone of the other gender because it will allow them to mature faster, and it will change their outlook on the opposite gender in their future.
09:03 PM on 05/02/2011
I always ask my mom if i could go to work with her instead of school but she always says no guess it doesn't work when ur a teacher
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07:16 PM on 05/02/2011
But the greatest political victory Obama has had was just handed to him by Navy Seals -- not a team known for political correctness or affirmative action of any kind. Where are the women and gays on the Navy Seal teams? I guess this is game we all play, pretending that we are all equal ... but when Obama needs to get something done ... he knows who to go to.
07:55 PM on 05/02/2011
how do you know there are no gays in the navy seals? odds are there are some.
Guest211
Stars Exploded to Make Me
08:51 PM on 05/02/2011
Can't quite remember... but somewhere, I'm sure I read something about "All Men Are Created Equal." I'm pretty sure I did anyway.

Honestly, I don't know if I've ever met anyone who has claimed we are all exactly equal as we all have our strengths and weaknesses.

That said, I STONGLY support the idea that we should all have equal rights and opportunities. You bet.
06:37 PM on 05/02/2011
Of course there is still a need for "Take Our Daughters to Work" day. There is also a newly emerging need to take sons to work as well. Women and girls are doing much better overall. I recently read an article claiming that the pay gap has closed. The generation of women coming up will not be also-rans, but there is a danger of young men being left behind. Our culture still breaks girls at 11 or 12 with messages like, "don't be smarter than the boys or you won't get married." But, it also still breaks boys at 2 or 3: "Be a good little soldier, big boys don't cry." For a society that claims to value freedom and individual accomplishment, we still do an awful lot to discourage the full emotional development that makes for accomplished and innovative adults.
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06:13 PM on 05/06/2011
Well, if the claim was published in the highly respected peer-reviewed journal Somewhere, then it must be true!