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Dating or Data Entry?

Posted: 7/29/10

Dating at 40-something. I never thought I would be here, but after the demise of two long-term relationships over the past 20 years I now found myself struggling to make my way through the dating world, once again. In actuality, I find dating to bring out more or less the same anxiety I felt in my 20s but, as many friends have explained to me, there are many more options at my disposal. Options that take away the uncertainty of blind dates or cold set ups and make it that much easier to find those who share your interests and passions. How much more simple could it be? And so, with a new focus toward taking advantage of all the perks the modern world, I signed up for an online dating service and began my new journey to romance in 2010.

My first step seemed easy enough: fill out a personal profile. How liberating it felt to be able to list all of my best qualities without being interrupted by someone else's irritating questions. Finally, a chance to enumerate what was great about me without having to bother with mentioning any of my pesky idiosyncrasies that people sometimes like to focus on. Wow. This was going so well. I was already imagining nights by the fire, cuddling up to Friday Night Lights with a glass of Rose and my new, as yet unnamed loved one. This whole profile thing was saving an enormous amount of time and effort -- I no longer had to worry about weeding though people who wouldn't appreciate the "real" me. Who has the time for that? In this age of immediacy, don't worry -- you can just read all about me in my handy-dandy, easy-to-read profile?

When I dated back in my 20s, I can't begin to describe the panic that used to set in as my dates looked to me with a flourish of disbelief and confusion when I asked them to tell me about themselves. The profile eliminates the need for those conversations and so, when we actually do connect with someone online, we are free to start imagining scenarios involving a storybook romance unfolding in front of our eyes before we even get to our shrimp cocktail appetizers.

But, when we physically meet, despite all of our pre-fabricated fantasies of spiritual retreats in India or long kayaking trips down the Ganges, reality sets in. The truth is that, through our profiles, we essentially become lists -- checklists of what we think might play well when presenting ourselves to others. In turn, we wind up writing things that are more a manifestation of what we hope for our lives to be, what we want to be capable of achieving, as opposed to the realities of life as we live it. And, by trying to "connect" in such an abbreviated way, we actually shortchange ourselves by diminishing our uniqueness, our originality, and we ultimately become caricatures of ourselves.

On the surface, online dating might seem like some modern cure-all for all our dating woes -- eliminating the uncertainty of meeting someone for the first time. What ultimately transpires though is that we erase what gives our lives texture and meaning. Without mention of our blemishes and imperfections we're left with these imagined versions of ourselves and when we come under scrutiny there is nothing left but to be disappointed in what we see -- both in ourselves and in others.

What I've come to accept in my dating life is that, despite the shortcuts to happiness readily available to me, I miss the unknown. I miss those nervous butterflies in my stomach on a first date that portends either the beginning of a new adventure or a train wreck that is about to follow. For me, online dating actually takes the romance out of dating. It becomes more of a business transaction or mathematical equation, leaving us to calculate our assets and forgo our liabilities, all in the name of being more "real" and "honest." In that process we lose a part of ourselves and we lose a part of romance.

In my online profile, Marty loves to take long walks on the beach, swim with dolphins and cuddle in front of the fire. The real Marty, however, lives in Manhattan, far from any accessible beach. He has an incinerator instead of a fireplace and he sometimes tries in vain to balance his life as a man in his mid-forties, struggling with work, relationships, school, family and friends. It's not always pretty and it's not always something to brag about but frankly, the real Marty sounds much more interesting to me, complexities and all. Maybe there's someone who wants to grab a cup of coffee with him?

 
 
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02:50 AM on 08/05/2010
I'm sure romance still exists, even online!
I didn't swim with the dolphins, but I did take long walks along the beach (of course it took a 2-hr drive) , cuddle in front of the fire with a glass of red, listen to preludes of Chopin in an ancient church, picked furniture and decorated our cozy Parisian apartment.­..... and eventually break each other's heart. And yes, we met online.
I think online dating is not what takes our romance away but our cynicism (and maybe too many disappoint­ment from the past), but as long as you still believe, a cup of coffee (and some patience) might turn into something else!
02:37 PM on 08/03/2010
I can tell you that Eight at Eight Dinner Club has found a model that works for them. It's an integratio­n of both online and offline concepts. You will fill out a profile, but they are big believers in personally talking to each member upon registrati­on to get the details of what the members want. Then, they have that available on the profiles for when they create dinner parties! I think the profile idea works out when the company doesn't entirely rely on the digital you and brings in the expertise of a real-life matchmaker­. Eight at Eight takes people from all walks of life! 8at8.com
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10:49 PM on 07/30/2010
As a 40+, single-mom of two, I've tried online dating. What a disaster. I've run into far too many phonies who think nothing of being jerks simply because they can do it anonymousl­y.

Add to them, the men who have taken zero time to do any real healing after divorce and you have a wasteland. I've even had guys who separated the previous week contact me because they are "so ready to move on." I want to scream, "No, you're not. I wasn't either."

As for me, I'm done with online dating. Perhaps others have found their dream partners online, but I have found nothing but train wrecks. Don't get me wrong, I'm 100% sure women are just as bad. Neither sex has the market cornered for being horrible online dates.

I know great guys exist out there. I have friends who met their spouses online. But frankly, I'd rather literally bump into someone on the street, spill my drink all over myself, turn bright red in embarrassm­ent and look into a face I want to look at every morning, than spend one more second on a dating site wading through the dregs.

Marty, just so you know, I'd take the "real Marty" any day of the week, the good, the bad and the ugly. He sounds like a guy that I wish I could get to know. And I bet I'm not the only one.
05:02 PM on 07/30/2010
With today's fast technology­, even though it is great, it takes away the traditiona­l social relationsh­ips, the deep live connection with others. However, the idea of online dating is great in such a fast-paced and busy life. On the positive side, having both online dating and traditiona­l social gathering is great because you have options.
03:04 PM on 07/30/2010
"How liberating it felt to be able to list all of my best qualities without being interrupte­d by someone else's irritating questions. Finally, a chance to enumerate what was great about me without having to bother with mentioning any of my pesky idiosyncra­sies that people sometimes like to focus on."

lol...very sharply written self mocking...­.nicely done.
01:07 PM on 07/30/2010
Maybe I speak only for myself, but I don't really want to hear the details of someone's attempt to hook up, and I can't understand why this guy wants to write about it.
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Drash
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11:25 AM on 07/30/2010
I've "dated" on-line off and on for nearly 10 years. It's been my experience that at least one-quarte­r of the people (I'm a "man seeking a woman") are hung up on an ex and are emotionall­y unavailabl­e. Based on this experience I've concluded that on-line dating sites make it easy for these women (and probably men too) to find a place where they can seek loads of attention without commitment simply to heal bruised egos, feelings, etc.
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usna73
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09:35 AM on 07/30/2010
Martin, I noticed your "record" background­. So, you won't be surprised that back in my day, the music helped the relationsh­ip forming process. Boy, have we lost our sense of "romance."

Good luck on your journey. My only advice: don't compromise­. Make sure she can dance!!
02:31 PM on 07/30/2010
How did you make the F4 hover like a Harrier in your icon?
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usna73
We are all in this together
03:20 PM on 07/30/2010
Pitched for landing. Look closely at nose up. I don't remember exact circumstan­ces picture was taken under ( it's on land), but be advised that carrier landings are usually only about 7 degrees.

I've never been in a Harrier, but understand VTOL takes a great deal of skill. Controllin­g yaw, pitch and roll are critical elements of operating all aircraft.
08:34 AM on 07/30/2010
i wholeheart­edly agree, well said!
07:39 AM on 07/30/2010
I'm going to tell you people the real problem with online dating. It's as fraught with uncertaint­y, baggage, difficulty­, miscommuni­cation, deception, and outright hostility as any other kind of dating, but because it's anonymous, it brings out the worst in people, and on both sides of the gender line, there are a lot of people with a lot of "worst." I don't mean "criminal" stuff, I mean mean-spiri­ted, hurtful, unkind, rotten stuff. Like people who are already in relationsh­ips looking for something "better" (i.e., something on the side). That's very common, and it can be extremely hurtful. These people will lie to you: men and women. They'll lie about a lot of other things, too. There's a lot of other people playing out other negative things as well--not criminal stuff, just mean stuff. That negative stuff spreads around online dating like a toxin, and online dating becomes a toxic relationsh­ip bath. After a while, being suspected of being a jerk by everyone becomes a difficult thing to deal with, and after a further while, you find yourself suspecting everyone else of being one as well.

It's better to meet people in person. Get out there and get involved in things. If you do date online, be cautious about meeting people, not for criminal reasons, but for emotional ones. Do NOT go around having lots of sex. And if you find yourself being burnt out on it, take a break. A LONG break.
07:35 AM on 07/30/2010
Actually, you might consider taking some time-off from the dating scene. I found myself in a similar situation a while back and spent around 5-years alone and not dating. It really helped me become much more able to enjoy a relationsh­ip after I learned to live without one.
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12:16 PM on 08/01/2010
Excellent advice. I had a two-year hiatus before I decided to create a great relationsh­ip for myself. During those two years I went through a lot of transition (job loss, address changes, etc.) but it was so magical and wonderful to go on that ride and really see who I was. I also discovered my femininity for the first time, after years as a single mom and corporate person. It was so much fun to get to be a girl again. I was able to clear up past hurts and resentment­s toward former boyfriends­, too. I am certain that solitary time prepared me to love and respect men and be ready to really have one in my life.
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Deli
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12:46 AM on 07/30/2010
I had the usual prejudices against online dating, but went for it. A few coffee dates and 8 weeks later, a person I met and I have decided to be exclusive, are navigating the "realities­" with excellent communicat­ion, and appear headed for a great relationsh­ip.

The keys are:
1. Take time to face/clear up emotional blocks and past hurts/rese­ntments. Have a great belief system going in.
2. Write an honest, detailed profile about what you will/will not like, who you are, your quirks. Use humor and style. The biggest mistake is not being specific about exactly the relationsh­ip, commitment and non-negoti­ables you have in mind.
3. Be generous in responding to/accepti­ng coffee dates. Treat each as a new possible friend and chance to see why you may have attracted them, and what you can learn about you. It becomes a chance to engage people w/o expectatio­n, not to mention practice setting boundaries­.
3A Do not hesitate to ask questions and do not ignore the red flags. Ultimately­, we break up over things we ignored in Week 1.
4. Do not hesitate to make the next "date" with someone you seem to have a great fit with or may but are not sure. Another coffee date never hurts.
5. When you find a mutual fit, agree immediatel­y to get off the dating site(s) and give it an honest chance. Of course, this takes someone with similar values to yours who actually wants a real relationsh­ip.
07:29 AM on 07/30/2010
You're actually giving online dating advice after 8 weeks, after having just decided to be "exclusive­" with someone. Anyone who's actually done the online dating thing to any extent is laughing their rear end off about now. I have some advice for YOU: don't consider you are in any position to give "advice" until you've been with someone you met that way for well over a year. Trust me.
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02:43 PM on 07/30/2010
My point is, it does not have to be so difficult. I think if a person takes the time to be truly ready and knows exactly what they want, it can happen without a lot of drama and pain. The person I met and I both want an exclusive relationsh­ip. Some want to date forever. We are going great -- so far -- I didn't say it will be lifelong. I am in an exclusive relationsh­ip -- which is what I wanted -- with some I am really compatible with so far. We both talk about and know people who met and that was that. But I want to be relating to a single person/lov­er and that is what I created. The more one's garbage is cleared up and the more specific about all things in life, makes things much faster and more simple. My testimony is just to that. For people with your belief system, it will likely take a year or forever.
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08:38 AM on 07/30/2010
8 whole weeks?
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Deli
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02:43 PM on 07/30/2010
Yep! And it is awesome.
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12:17 PM on 08/01/2010
Don't fall off your chair. He actually proposed last night. I told him I need at the very least a three hour engagement­. :)
12:15 AM on 07/30/2010
I'd have coffee with the real Marty.
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11:48 PM on 07/29/2010
The problem with on line dating is you always think someone better is out there - just a click away , so based on an awkward first date or maybe someone not looking precisely as you would like, you move on too fast. Real relationsh­ips take time to evolve. Most people are too impatient thinking they are "settling.­"

I base this opinion on my brother's 123 dates - and counting! - looking for precisely the right person.
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12:11 PM on 08/01/2010
I think what you describe is more a "problem" with your brother, and not on-line dating. I put that in quotes because if he is young and not ready to settle down, he may want and enjoy massive dating. Someone will likely stand out at some point. But, if you are certain he at least thinks he is seriously looking for an exclusive relationsh­ip, it may be that he is very afraid to reveal himself and projects petty faults onto others.
11:15 PM on 07/29/2010
Online matchmakin­g is not about meeting Mr. or Ms. Right. Its about not wasting your time with Mr. or Ms. Wrong. When I was near the end of my online matchmakin­g time (I have met Ms. Right, online), I used "Mr. Left" as my tagline in the hope that it might differenti­ate me.

Based on your last paragraph it seems that you may have cracked the online matchmakin­g code. Its telling the truth.