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Why Do Meteorologists Dismiss Climate Change Science?

Posted: 02/22/2012 4:03 pm

John Coleman, the founder of The Weather Channel and the original weatherman on Good Morning America: "There isn't any climate crisis," he said. "It's totally manufactured."


Meteorologists are notoriously reluctant to accept climate change. Why so? Theirs is a profession that studies the weather, which is akin to what climate scientists do by studying the weather over relatively long periods. Of course, they are not as educated as climate scientists who have PhD's in their field, while many meteorologists have college degrees unrelated to meteorology. Meteorologists know the pitfalls of being wrong when making a forecast, however, they do not seem to realize that the conclusions of climate scientists are not the same as saying there is a 50% chance of precipitation tomorrow. The International Panel on Climate Change or IPCC put a probability that it is more than 90% likely that man is causing climate change. Do meteorologists, weathermen to use a more prosaic term, just feel inferior to climate scientists or just why are they so dismissive about climate change?


According to a 2010 survey...

Twenty-nine percent of the 121 meteorologists who replied agreed ...--not that global warming was unproven, or unlikely, but that it was a scam. Just 24 percent of them believed that humans were responsible for most of the change in climate over the past half century--half were sure this wasn't true, and another quarter were "neutral" on the issue." It is a scary statistic considering climate change may be the most important topic of our day.


A more recent survey in 2012 showed that more than half of TV weather reporters don't believe in human-induced climate change, even as our agitated weather grows more extreme.


Weathermen communicate directly with the public in the intimacies of their living rooms each evening and therefore can greatly influence public perceptions about climate change. In a 2008 survey, it was learned that 66% of people trusted meteorologists most for their source of information about climate change. Climate scientists were considered more credible, but few people knew one or kept up with the latest scientific findings. Consequently, there is a battle going on for the hearts and minds of weather forecasters with far-right think tanks, like the Heartland Institute, vying for the souls of weathermen pitted against legitimate organizations like The National Science Foundation and the Congress-funded National Environmental Education Foundation.


As the only professional who speaks about science in an atmosphere of 30-second sound bites, weather forecasters are often asked to gauge an opinion on anything that may touch upon a scientific topic, although they may have scant knowledge of the field. These inquiries may give them the impression they are more omniscient in their science knowledge than they really are. "There is one little problem with this: most weather forecasters are not really scientists. When a broad pool of weather forecasters were surveyed in a study barely half of them had a college degree in meteorology or another atmospheric science. Only 17 percent had received a graduate degree, effectively a prerequisite for an academic researcher in any scientific field."


"Among the certified meteorologists surveyed in 2008, 79 percent considered it appropriate to educate their communities about climate change. Few of them, however, had taken the steps necessary to fully educate themselves about it. When asked which source of information on climate change they most trusted, 22 percent named the American Meteorological Society (AMS). But the next most popular answer, with 16 percent, was "no one." The third was "myself.""


Meteorologists almost uniformly base much of their skepticism of climate science on the use of models. "Meteorologists know the inaccuracies of their own models," Brian Neudorff, a meteorologist at WROC in Rochester, said. "There's a lot of error and bias. We'll use five different models and come back with five different things. So when we hear that climatological models are saying this, how accurate are they?"


Besides the fact that models predicted such events as the climatic effects of the eruption of Mt. Pinatubo after being fed data on the eruption and other effects of climate change, what about the documented evidence that is gathered by scientists like the loss of polar ice or the melting of mountain glaciers, which many photographers have captured in time-lapse comparisons?


Apparently meteorologists not only have large gaps in their understanding of climate change science, but do not even realize the extent of these gaps. For example, they are seemingly unaware of the uniformity of the scientific consensus. In fact, scientists may be partly to blame for these misconceptions. "I don't see my job as convincing anyone of anything," Michael Mann, a climatologist and professor at Penn State University, said. (7) So perhaps both sides share some of the blame - Meteorologists for not recognizing the limitations of their knowledge of climate science and the scientists themselves for not doing a better job of convincing the professionals best positioned to inform the listening public. One day perhaps even John Coleman, of The Weather Channel fame, can be convinced of the reality of warming.

 
 
 
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BluePhantom2
The Blacksmith & the Artist reflected in their art
07:02 PM on 02/28/2012
So maybe they just are not buying it either!
03:13 PM on 02/27/2012
I understand the point that Mr. Meadors was trying to make with this article but as a meteorologist (who is in graduate school) I disagree with the view that the author has of meteorologists. Not all meteorologists work in broadcast, in fact many work at the National Weather Service, in the private sector, and in academia. It is inaccurate to call a weatherperson on television a meteorologist if they have no background in the science of meteorology, these people are forecasters. And while many forecasters may disagree with climate change theory you would be fairly hard pressed to find a meteorologist who's completed even just a bachelor's degree that disagrees with climate change.

Basically, please keep in mind that many meteorologists are scientists as well :) Also if you look at any faculty list at a well respected university with an atmospheric science program you will find not only climate scientists but also meteorologists with PhDs, they're just referred to as atmospheric scientists.
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zSpin2001
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07:43 PM on 02/26/2012
The difference is a matter of scale. In other words, weather and climate are not the same thing. Stochastic changes in weather become a pattern over a long period of time.
08:33 AM on 02/25/2012
The truth is the knowledge of climate is not very good. Climate science is very new science and that's why very vulnerable for skillful manipulation of any group of advocates. Perhaps it will take some couple of decades until science know much more what's really happening. Until that day we have to try to limit pollution.
03:48 AM on 02/24/2012
I admire the commentators like chris3d who doggedly, dedicatedly, recount the facts over and over to the deniers with their absurd disinformation. But when is it going to make any difference? We have no time to waste, guys! People are dying, losing their livelihoods, animals are dying, whole species are going extinct... Stop hiding and start taking action to prevent climate change getting any worse.
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Marvin Meadors
10:32 AM on 02/24/2012
Great post and great job chrisd3!
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Marvin Meadors
09:24 PM on 02/23/2012
Thanks to everyone for your thoughtful comments. It was a pleasure reading them.
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RichieB
Science is true whether you believe it or not
08:37 PM on 02/23/2012
Nice article Marvin. Part of the problem is that many TV Meteorologists are hired to be TV personalities. They are paid to read the script and be a friendly face in the community. The science behind AGW is solid and no reasonable person that has studied the facts can deny it.
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realpolitic
When in Rome.......
03:51 PM on 02/24/2012
Thank you!
06:41 PM on 02/23/2012
I took the time and effort to read and learn the basics and evidence of Global Warming. It does take effort and a fair share amount of time. Already bought the Michael Mann's title "The Hockey Stick" and realize (like I did before) vested interests that a making great profits off of selling fossil fuels will fight to maintain the status quo. Unfortunately, time is ticking, we wasted at least 10-15 years and will do so again because of self interests.
11:21 PM on 02/24/2012
So you are a believer in Mann's 'Hockey Stick'. Even the IPCC has thrown that junk science out.
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Huffdoo
06:16 PM on 02/23/2012
Actually IPCC's original predictions were based on modeling using modified weather predicting software.
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eaarth2
“An era ends when its illusions are exhausted
05:38 PM on 02/23/2012
Manufactured? The facts and evidence all lie in geology and the Paleo climate records- unless the founder of the weather channel chooses to ignore them- which is obviously so.
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Phreaked
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05:34 PM on 02/23/2012
Meteorologists do nothing by read the forecasts coming from actual scientists

They do not do any math besides counting their pay check
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LeftyHeinz
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05:29 PM on 02/23/2012
Global Warming has little to no empirical support, relies on highly inaccurate computer models that cannot forecast current much less future weather and is not supported by a broad scientific consensus. To the extent there is warming going on it is due to the sun. While these facts do not conclusively prove that global warming is not occurring - it is impossible to prove a negative - they certainly suggest that it is not. Americans need not fear the earth. God is still up there.
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A. Siegel
10:04 AM on 02/24/2012
Let us be clear -- this comment is utterly misleading and move beyond truthiness to untruths.

"due to the sun" ... no, the measurements of solar activity prove your point false.

Re "consensus" -- a joke point that, well, is disproved by the HuffPost post just above this one on the science page: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/a-siegel/climate-change-science-_b_1290259.html

Etc ...
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Marvin Meadors
10:33 AM on 02/24/2012
Nothing you say is true based on what scientist's say.
11:26 PM on 02/24/2012
And we all know all scientists say the same thing... Not. Of course if you are religious you will claim only high priest scientists (ones of your same belief) are to be followed. Stone the skeptics.
ThinkCreeps
Seriously, it's time.
03:24 PM on 02/23/2012
Why doesn't the gas station attendant design cars?
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WI Patriot
Defending the Constitution.
01:01 PM on 02/23/2012
Seeing how we have no solid understanding how weather works precisely - is it too much of a stretch to say that more information is needed to support a claim that climate change is man-made?
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TakeSake
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02:22 PM on 02/23/2012
No.
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chrisd3
02:28 PM on 02/23/2012
"is it too much of a stretch to say that more information is needed to support a claim that climate change is man-made"

Yes, it is. Weather and climate are very different. We have plenty of information to know that the bulk of the recent warming is related to the increased level of atmospheric CO2. This is a question that has been resolved.
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phal4875
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12:57 PM on 02/23/2012
It is difficult to understand why a well-spoken person with little scientific training would be consulted for climate science questions. This person is usually paid to look good, sound confident, and talk about the weather in Boston or Boise for the next few days. This seems to have little to do with climate change.