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Not the Most Important Presidential Debate!

Posted: 10/03/2012 8:30 am

Tonight President Obama and Mitt Romney will NOT be having "The Most Important Debate" of this election. The most important debate hasn't been scheduled yet.

Tonight's debate will focus on domestic issues. The next one on both domestic and foreign policy. And the third will focus entirely on foreign affairs.

Pretty big topics, right? Yes, but there's another topic that is bigger. Indeed it is so big that many people believe it now deserves a debate all of its own. In a recent poll almost 85% of likely voters said they wanted the candidates to hold a debate on Science. Why? Because, more than anything else, our kids' future health and happiness depend on it. And yet, in spite of the many critical issues involved, I'm willing to bet that almost none of the following questions get asked in any of the debates:

What does science know about climate change, and as president what will you do about it? What about the disastrous state of our oceans where entire species are at risk of extinction? What can we do about the oncoming crisis of fresh water scarcity? What will you do -- if anything -- to encourage the development of alternative energy sources less damaging to the environment? How much are you willing to spend on the space program which informs us not just about the scope and beauty of the universe but about the health of the earth? What about vaccinations and public health, the safety of our food, or lack of it, and the dangers of global pandemics and deliberate biological attacks?

Too grim? Too apocalyptic? Too "global"? Then how about some down-to-earth questions about science and the American economy? Science and technology have been responsible for over half the growth of the U.S. economy since WWII. Much of this economically bountiful innovation came as a result of government investment in scientific research. At what level should this continue? Or should big government get out of the way entirely? And where are the American innovators of the future going to come from when a recent comparison of 15-year-olds in 65 countries found the average science scores among U.S. students ranked 23rd, while average U.S. math scores ranked 31st?

Oops, never mind the end of the world, this could be the end of America!

Both Romney and Obama have answered "14 Questions On Science" sent to them by ScienceDebate.org and their answers have been published online here so that the public can vote with this vital information in mind. But there's nothing like debate to clarify and contrast different positions. If there isn't going to be a dedicated science debate, let's hope the moderators of all of the debates will examine the candidates' responses to ScienceDebate.org's questions so they can probe a little deeper.

 
 
 
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pixeloid
Reality has a liberal bias.
02:26 PM on 10/09/2012
The problem is, half of those voters simply want to verify that their candidate has no belief in science, facts, or anything else that might contradict their "faith".
04:20 AM on 10/05/2012
Why did the debate questions not include women's rights or the climate crisis?
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OldHick
09:55 PM on 10/04/2012
Without the fed stopping the pumping, Science is imperiled. The support of foreign investments, flattens out the interest in US research. Where production exists is where R&D flourishes.
WE are witnessing the disintegration of US research, the transfer of undergraduate ed to programs like the Open University in England, and a reorganization of the universities.
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gutenmorgen
a.k.a. crowsnest
08:50 AM on 10/04/2012
I am calling Mr. Romney a political chameleon but I will make one exception in the context of science. Given his embrace of oil, gas, and coal he either denies or ignores the scientific warnings about global warming and climate change thereby potentially endangering the lives of future Americans. On that point he has been consistent.
It was again chameleon-like when it came to supporting "green energy". He blamed the Obama administration for giving 90 billion dollars to "green" but he did not say what he would do. Zero dollars?
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parlimentMike
Terrorists keep you in fear
05:01 AM on 10/04/2012
Science shouldn't be a debate, it should be a yes or no question, with no's shown the door.
02:05 AM on 10/04/2012
One thing is sure. America will never adopt the successful education systems of Finland and South Korea because these are too "socialist" taking care too much of students what ever their socioeconomic background is. It' dangerous, it's too much against principles of "free market fundamentalism".
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keezze
01:28 AM on 10/04/2012
True. Even logic and common sence would be more welcome. School should start at 1 year not 5.
12:10 AM on 10/04/2012
The whole first debate was even more useless than i believed. No wonder why so many people have good reasons to think that politicians sucks. There is no debate about future of Military Empire, not how it has killed hope home and abroad, no debate how American education system has destroyed during the last 3 decades. They don't care at all. The debate was nothing but pure fraud.
10:39 PM on 10/03/2012
Sadly I was right:

I'm willing to bet that almost none of the following questions get asked in any of the debates:

What does science know about climate change, and as president what will you do about it? What about the disastrous state of our oceans where entire species are at risk of extinction? What can we do about the oncoming crisis of fresh water scarcity? What will you do -- if anything -- to encourage the development of alternative energy sources less damaging to the environment? How much are you willing to spend on the space program which informs us not just about the scope and beauty of the universe but about the health of the earth? What about vaccinations and public health, the safety of our food, or lack of it, and the dangers of global pandemics and deliberate biological attacks?

Go to http://www.sciencedebate.org and ask for a science debate
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paisleyface
if we're not gonna have sex, get off my back
08:49 PM on 10/03/2012
Ladies and Gentleman, is there really much more to say than "The Creation Museum"?
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paisleyface
if we're not gonna have sex, get off my back
08:43 PM on 10/03/2012
I love Obama. He said some years ago "god is in the mix". It was a point against him. Now, he's pitted against a man with an even crazier belief system. Science is riding in the back of the station wagon with the faux wood panels, looking out that big back window and not really caring about what the driver sees.
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Mover
Father, Husband, Ret 1SG
04:03 PM on 10/03/2012
"Tonight President Obama and Mitt Romney will NOT be having "The Most Important Debate" of this election. The most important debate hasn't been scheduled yet."

First, I'd like to note that the 'science' debate that you would like isn't going to happen between presidential candidates... ever. The reason is simple: Leaders, and pretend leaders, do not involve themselves in the minutia that a serious discussion on science would require. They leave that to their staff, who will brief them in sound bites when requested, and they will otherwise be engaged in more direct issues, like how to keep their power.

As for this debate being important: It is and it qualifies as the most important for this reason: It is Romney's coming out party.

The legacy media (widely known as the main stream media or MSM) have been actively campaigning for President Obama and have covered candidate Romney minimally (only enough to paint him negatively). Since this debate will be broadcast throughout the MSM, it will be Romney's night to make a first impression.
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Jeff Wolverton
(not my real name)
08:12 PM on 10/03/2012
>> "The legacy media (widely known as the main stream media or MSM) have been actively campaigning for President Obama and have covered candidate Romney minimally (only enough to paint him negatively)."

Uh, you know which news network has the MOST viewers, right? (hint: rhymes with "box").
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Mover
Father, Husband, Ret 1SG
07:08 AM on 10/04/2012
"Uh, you know which news network has the MOST viewers, right? (hint: rhymes with "box")."

Correction: Fox News Channel has he most viewers on cable. There are many more Americans who get their news from the broadcast media (ABC, CBS, NBC & PBS).

Facts are stubborn things.
02:56 PM on 10/03/2012
Socialism or Capitalism? I'd say it's about as important as WWII.
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parlimentMike
Terrorists keep you in fear
05:05 AM on 10/04/2012
I believe it is WWIII. The last way to consume the remaining fuel in the Capitalist fire is to spend the last bit of wealth on military adventures. When the people have nothing left to create demand, only terrorism remains to stimulate spending. The Capitalists must resort to terrorism.
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Jay Daterman
Dump The Teapot
02:51 PM on 10/03/2012
Given the increasingly obvious anti science pogrom of the bible banging teapublicans and the way that party is so obviously the puppet of oil and coal good luck. The interests of those groups in having a largely dumbed down population are obvious.
02:09 PM on 10/03/2012
'End of the US '. Hope not. But it's unbelievable that this US is hamstrung by the Bible, so evolution is openly mocked by major political players, that AGW is, to them, a hoax because any science they and the Bible are unhappy with is junk science, and, most significant, that they have a very large following. " Every political structure carries the seed of its own downfall " . In this case, the Bible ?