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What Happens When A Vegan Marries a Carnivore?

Posted: 10/24/11 10:54 AM ET

I recently met a truly fabulous couple who, like anyone planning to be married, share many common interests but one area they definitely disagree is diet. As a vegan myself, I was overjoyed to learn the bride is also vegan and wants to infuse the menu for their reception with many animal-free options. The groom on the other hand enjoys eating everything from roasted pork to juicy hamburgers so I'm excited about this dilemma. It should be interesting! The challenge is balancing the percentage of delicious, inventive vegan options with the non-vegan items. Unfortunately, not every caterer or chef out there is well versed in creating satisfying, unique and delicious vegan food so be prepared to do some research.

The second layer and perhaps the more important one in this challenge is making sure the couple feels as if the menu truly represents both of their visions. Your wedding day should be filled with personal touches and details that truly make it your own. If you don't want animal products featured or you prefer local, seasonal fruits and vegetables remember these are the details that truly say so much about who you are as individuals and as a couple. I have worked with vegan and vegetarian couples and the challenge was not finding common ground as a couple but rather with their families and friends. They received some (not so friendly) comments from family members who thought it would be totally insane to invite 200 guests to a wedding and serve no meat or dairy on the menu. I was very proud of my clients for staying true to their vision for the event. Just brace yourself for the endless stream of commentary! You will need to stay strong and focused. Getting outraged will get you nowhere when planning a wedding!

This all opens the door to many challenges and questions so here are a few things to keep in mind as you navigate the dietary battle with your fiancé. First, consider who's paying for the wedding. If your parents are paying for everything you need to sit down before making plans and decisions to express your own concerns regarding food and the overall direction of the event. You can't always win some of these battles when the funds are coming from somewhere other than your own bank account.

Next, if both of you aren't either vegan or vegetarian you need to find the perfect balance to create a menu that truly represents each of you as individuals. Perhaps the main course is vegan rather than the traditional & expected meat dish. The appetizer and/or salad courses can be a place to get creative and offer non-vegan options. You can also consider a "family style" menu so there are many vegan and non-vegan dishes displayed on each table for guests to make their own choices. Work with the caterer or chef to create dishes that are complete and satisfying for vegans and non-vegans. Finally, remember to do your research when choosing a caterer or venue. Not everyone will have experience with creating a delicious & inventive vegan menu. Also, you need to share information on what it actually means to be vegan. I meet people everyday that still think you might have a dish with butter or eat fish for lunch if you are vegan so ask the right questions and inform everyone involved!

You will have to balance many expectations and opinions along the way so be prepared to compromise. Marriage is, after all, about learning to compromise. I'm not suggesting you cave in and let go of your own moral compass or demands but be prepared to face the facts. You might need to find a way to fund the wedding on your own if you aren't willing to compromise or accommodate other requests or demands that aren't in line with your own vision for the menu. Good luck as you dive into the culinary challenges of your wedding day. Don't lose site of the true magic of the day, which comes from sharing your commitment as a couple with the people you love.

 

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I recently met a truly fabulous couple who, like anyone planning to be married, share many common interests but one area they definitely disagree is diet. As a vegan myself, I was overjoyed to learn t...
I recently met a truly fabulous couple who, like anyone planning to be married, share many common interests but one area they definitely disagree is diet. As a vegan myself, I was overjoyed to learn t...
 
 
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11:03 AM on 10/26/2011
It's going to end in one of two ways, he becomes a vegan or divorce, happy wife bearable life
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mmerteuil
I'm pretty sure I'm connected to the moon.
09:29 AM on 10/26/2011
I think it all depends on the person you are getting married to. If this person obviously loves you and understand this aspect of your life, why would he mind serving a vegetarian (or vegan) meal? Its just one day. I am vegetarian (eat mostly vegan) and my husband never considered serving animals for our wedding because he new that I wouldn't want to celebrate my special day by hurting these creatures that I love so dearly. It doesn't have to be an issue. And no one, even the pickiest eater, will die of starvation or malnutrition because they don't like tempeh cakes. I think that its always expected that vegans or vegetarians will abide to people's choices because they are the different ones and they have to compromise and I do. I usually try to cater to people's needs when I have to, even if I don't agree with it in order not to create a comotion but not in my wedding. It had to reflect me, one of the most important things of my life and my husband always understood because you know what, a sausage is not important in this day: our happiness is.
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Kelly Jade
11:56 AM on 10/26/2011
I see your point and agree. I get very tired of "well, not everyone eats what you eat". I didn't see that put into practice when they were cooking and I would be there. The one thing I will not abide is being critizcied in my own home after I cook (unless the food didnt turn out well) ESPECIALLY if I made meat. I did Thanksgiving at my place, made a turkey the whole 9 yards and someone had the gaul to made disgusted noises and mocked me for my vegetarian entree as he piled the turkey I had bought, cooked and not eaten onto his plate. He was aksed to remove himself from my home and not invited back. Respect me and my efforts or don't eat at my table.
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Fonsini
Let there be pie.
06:51 PM on 10/25/2011
Instead of being consumed by love, the vegan will of course be consumed by the carnivore.
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sdterp
Queer, Vegetarian Atheist -- Livin' Large
11:05 AM on 10/25/2011
For me, not eating flesh is not only a personal choice but a matter of morality. To offer meat at my wedding would be similar to a pro-lifer offering abortion clinic gift cards as parting gifts. That aside, I'm more offended by several comments where we see a female veggie/vegan and a male omnivore. I can't believe how many people suggested she should make her own meal, then a separate one for him!? A couple of issues here. First, why is she doing his cooking if he doesn't want to eat what she's preparing? Why is it HER responsibility to make two meals? Secondly, it's not just an issue of the smell of meat for me. I don't want animal fats in my cookware. I cook mostly on cast iron..it doesn't come out of the pores of the metal. I'd basically be cooking in those animal fats forever. I don't even let people cook meat on my grill. I'd say if he has to have his meat, fine. Let him order it (and pay for it) when out at a restaurant or let him get his own cookware and cook his own meals.
02:08 PM on 10/25/2011
I'm extremely pro-choice, but I find the idea of eating meat being the equivalent of an abortion to be simplistic and borderline offensive. You make a few good points — namely that it shouldn't be on the wife to cook everything for her husband — but you lost me with the second sentence. That kind of an attitude is what keeps people from taking vegans seriously.
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mmerteuil
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09:37 AM on 10/26/2011
Not all vegans are like that, I promisse. I find it embarassing too. That is why i hardly ever tell people I'm vegetarian anymore. Some people can just ruin for everybody else. Why cant we just make a choice and be happy with it and move on, instead of creating a huge animosity by making unfortunate comments everytime we get the choice just to rub at people's faces how special we think we are for not eating something. Its a choice. Make it for yourself and live with it. I really dislike this sort of analogies... they do a disservice to animal welfare.
11:10 AM on 10/26/2011
Hence my earlier comment, he becomes vegan or else!!
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LivelyLexie
Don't panic.
08:58 AM on 10/25/2011
If THIS is a source of stress and major contention for you, you may be getting married for the wrong reasons. Just saying.
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loveis22984
ah wah wrong wi yah
03:45 AM on 10/25/2011
You cook two different meals and move on. I know a couple like where the wife is a vegan, and the husband eats meat, she cooks a different dinner for him. The bigger problem is when the woman is vegan, gets pregnant, breast feeds, and when the child is old enough to eat solid foods, refuses to and the doctors threaten to report her to social services because the child is underweight. This is what is happening to the couple I know.
09:13 AM on 10/26/2011
What educational background do you have, or factual base for your claims? There are plenty of ways to get a child enough nutrition and make it taste appealing. If a child refuses to eat on any diet, there could be an issue, there for it is not limited to a vegan or vegetarian. I think the people you know didn't educate themselves before hand about proper nutrition for a vegan/vegetarian baby. Most Americans, no matter what diet they eat, could stand to learn much more about proper nutrition.
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loveis22984
ah wah wrong wi yah
10:04 AM on 10/26/2011
I never said the baby was vegan or vegetarian and refused to eat things on that diet, I said the baby refuses to eat, period end of story. The mother is the only vegan in the house, however the child did grow up on vegan breastmilk. The child hate everything except red jello and glucose water! The doctor is threatening to call social services. Knowing this family is how I acquired my educational background and they are the facts I have to back it up
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mmerteuil
I'm pretty sure I'm connected to the moon.
09:31 AM on 10/26/2011
Erm, underweight omnivoe children also happen, by the way. Sorry to tell you. You dont feed your child properly, doesnt matter the diet: the kid will suffer.
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loveis22984
ah wah wrong wi yah
10:12 AM on 10/26/2011
I never said the child was under weight because the child is vegan. The baby just won't eat. However, I do believe the child aversion to food have s lot to dowith the mothers diet while she was pregnant and while she breast fed. Do I have any proof, nope but it's what I believe. The child has eaten meat, eggs and milk you know, just not in decent sized portion.
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Chuck Bluestein
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03:21 AM on 10/25/2011
There are some excellent fake meats. They served boca burgers in Texas and they were surprised that it was not meat. I got one in a restaurant and I told them that I think they gave me meat by mistake. They have fake hot dogs. Put one on a roll and add mustard, sauerkraut and other things and it tastes like a real hot dog.

I have been vegetarian for many years but love meat. There is a Chinese vegetarian restaurant that is great at making fake meat. My favorite was the fake duck and I had never tasted real duck. People said it was kind of greasy. http://bit.ly/ucZORh So I went to a buffet and got some real duck. It was greasy and not as good as the fake duck! Indians eat mostly vegetarian and they make great meals. Growing up meat was my favorite food. I wonder if Hillary Clinton stills eats meat when Bill does not eat meat.
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pranalisa
mom,yoga teacher,holistic nutritionist,junk dealer
04:13 PM on 10/25/2011
unfortunately Chuck, the fake stuff is generally GMO soy, wheat gluten, filled with all kinds of yucky, unhealthy, processed ingredients. I would sooner eat a 4 oz grass fed steak than a Boca burger of tofurkey. Remember, contributing to obesity and disease with processed foods, whether vegan or not, causes the need to more drugs to be prescribed, and often animal testing is needed to make these drugs. Much more humane to avoid factory farmed animal products and stick to a whole foods plant based diet with high quality organic (if possible), REAL protein sources.
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All Seeing Guy
Bottomless ATM.
03:20 AM on 10/25/2011
"They received some (not so friendly) comments from family members who thought it would be totally insane to invite 200 guests to a wedding and serve no meat or dairy on the menu."

That's why you have the courtesy of holding the wedding near a good steak house, and don't complain when everyone leaves to get something to eat.
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Kelly Jade
12:00 PM on 10/26/2011
You are very rude and closed minded. Sorry someone else's wedding isn't about you?
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All Seeing Guy
Bottomless ATM.
12:30 PM on 10/26/2011
Mans gotta eat.
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All Seeing Guy
Bottomless ATM.
03:17 AM on 10/25/2011
"The challenge is balancing the percentage of delicious, inventive vegan options with even more succulent, tasty, and delicious prime cut non-vegan items."

Fixed that for ya.
11:14 PM on 10/24/2011
I agree that it's all about compromise. In the case of a vegan marrying a non-vegan/vegetarian, I would think the obvious choice would be to offer at least two options at every stage of the meal — canapes, starters, mains and dessert — and make one option vegan and one not. The article reiterated a vegan main and "creative" or "non-vegan" starter, which I couldn't help but notice dodged the question of whether meat was involved. How is that compromise, exactly? If two vegans/vegetarians want to do an entirely vegan/vegetarian menu, good on them. But if one of them is a meat-eater and one isn't, both sides deserve equal representation.
My boyfriend and I are both ardent meat-eaters but also enjoy our fruit and veg, but have many vegetarian friends. Because of this, we're offering two vegetarian canapes, a vegetarian soup, a meatless spinach-and-fruit salad and a vegetarian main as options. The two of us would be happy to have meat included everywhere — and we're using a catering company that works with local English farms and suppliers — but it's important to me to include my non-meat-eating friends as well.
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Matthew Robbins
06:35 PM on 10/26/2011
Thanks for sharing your menu ideas. The focus of my article is to highlight the importance of providing equal representation for a vegan/vegetarian and a meat eater. For a vegan, the issue is more than just no meat...it would require no animal products on the menu. As a good host one should always provide a vegetarian option for guests who don't eat meat but my article is focused on the couple...not the guests. The compromise is a personal issue and will be a different set of rules for every couple so I did not want to make assumptions or set guidelines for anyone to suggest there might be a perfect compromise. Good luck and enjoy!
09:55 PM on 10/24/2011
There's an old saying: He who pays, says. But it seems to me that it is just plain good manners to offer food at a reception that everyone can eat. If there are too many dietary needs that must be addressed, why have a sit-down dinner at all? Simply serve a variety of foods buffet style. Let the diners pick what they wish from the variety on the buffet table.
09:19 AM on 10/26/2011
I'm confused. Are you saying everyone can't eat vegetables? Or that not having any meat or dairy for one meal would be offensive or cruel? Please clarify.
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mmerteuil
I'm pretty sure I'm connected to the moon.
09:34 AM on 10/26/2011
Ok, if we are talking about a meal that EVERYONE can eat, wouldnt the bride have to be able to eat too? I mean, the BRIDE, like, along with the groom are the CENTRAL CHARACTERS of this party (hi!). They are not serving MUD with pineapple, they are serving beautiful food. Why cant people for once understand is not about them and sit and enjoy something? When its your wedding, you can serve all you want (and she has the choice to like it or not). I've always had problems before going vegetarian because I couldnt eat seafood and that was like, 100% of the menus. And NOBODY cared.
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Matthew Robbins
06:36 PM on 10/26/2011
I agree 100% and thank you for focusing on the heart of the issue in my article. The menu should represent the couple and their vision for the event!
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AbsolutDemocrat
09:11 PM on 10/24/2011
This was an uncompromising piece of journalism. It's heartening to know that society can be falling apart, but we will never have to live without a breathless analysis of the myriad of intricacies to be understood, and the mind-boggling moral choices to be made, when something as earth-shattering as a vegan marries a carnivore. Bravo!
08:44 PM on 10/24/2011
It's simple--------------It's all about compromise.
08:11 PM on 10/24/2011
One of my favorites is when a bride books her wedding video through her D.J. then complains about how bad the quality is ............. that's like buying a Kia then complaining to the dealership that it doesn't ride like a BMW!
05:55 PM on 10/24/2011
I'm a vegan, happily married to a carnivore. It is actually very easy, maybe because my wife is so wonderful.

As the article suggests, I think it's important that the caterer knows how to make delicious, hearty vegan food. Too many caterers seem to think vegan means nothing but vegetables and grains, and don't appreciate the wide variety of vegan proteins, like chickpeas, nuts, tofu, yuba (tofu skin), tempeh, seitan, quinoa, and various mock meats (which themselves vary tremendously). It's easy to make these things taste amazing, but you kind of have to know what you're doing. Being a great chef doesn't necessarily mean you know the first thing about cooking for vegans, but it's easy to learn or follow a recipe from a cookbook.

It's also nice to have a vegan cake, especially since they usually taste better anyway! http://www.quarrygirl.com/2010/06/22/vegan-cupcakes-ftw-chloe-coscarellis-huge-food-network-victory/
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Matthew Robbins
06:39 PM on 10/26/2011
Thanks for your comment! I'm delighted to know you are happily married to a carnivore and the compromise is easy!