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CNN: N/A Is Still Not OK

Posted: 04/22/11 04:10 PM ET

Earlier this week CNN/Opinion Research released a series of national polls that seemed to represent young Americans (under the age of 35) marginally at best, if at all. Specifically, they listed respondent data on questions pertaining to "the legalization of marijuana" and "marriages between gay and lesbian couples" as N/A (not available) from the 18-34 age demographic.

To the average person -- N/A would appear to mean that they did not pursue, could not reach, or did not obtain enough responses from Americans under age 35 to constitute statistical significance. And in response, my organization, OUR TIME (ourtime.org), which stands up for the economic and civic interests of young Americans, released a petition -- "N/A is not OK" -- to show CNN that they have a responsibility to survey our age cohort proportionately when conveying public opinion news.

Our "N/A is not OK" petition obtained more than 2,500 signatures in less than 12 hours, and hundreds of OUR TIME members conveyed their frustration with the polling process on Facebook and Twitter. In fact, the digital activism of OUR TIME members in addition to that of other groups, such as GetEQUAL, who highlighted the poll, warranted a response from Keating Holland, CNN's polling director.

Keating ballparked that roughly 9-10 percent of the 824 poll respondents were under the age of 35, but refused to release the raw number of young survey respondents. CNN also issued the following statement:

The 18-34 year-old age group is included in all surveys conducted and released by CNN. The group was also included in the poll released on Tuesday, April 19, 2011. The data for the 18-to-34 age group is listed as "N/A" in the breakdown of age groups because the sample size was too small for statistically valid analysis. CNN polls, like all other polls conducted by news organizations, adjusts many groups to reflect their actual share of the total adult population as reported by the U.S. Census, so the overall results are unaffected by the small number of 18-to-34 year olds interviewed.

OUR TIME told CNN that there are more than 70 million Americans between the ages of 18-34 and this age group represents more than 30 percent of the adult population over 18. Thus, if the CNN poll was to interview young Americans proportionately to their size in the population -- they would have surveyed roughly 247, not the roughly 74-82 that would comprise the 9-10 percent they cited. Instead, during my call with Keating it became clear to me that they had to weight the poll so that each young American polled was multiplied by three. Meanwhile Keating informed me that citizens over the age of 65 responded to the poll in such high numbers that CNN underweighted them to make the overall results representative.

In essence: 70 million young Americans were poorly represented because the sample size was too small to be meaningful. This information illustrates a larger societal problem in how we speak for younger generations, and Keating and I ended our call yesterday in amicable agreement that OUR TIME and CNN should collaborate in the future to explore ways that we can make public opinion data more indicative of young voices.

OUR TIME regrets that a part of our messaging was technically inaccurate regarding the "exclusion" of young respondents. We would like to amend any statements that claim no people under the age of 35 were included in the poll to reflect that those who were contacted were too few to indicate reliably the views of 70 million young Americans.

What's more important are the following takeaways:

1) Perception often becomes reality, and when N/A is listed in public opinion polls, it appears that negligible data is available for specific demographics. Media outlets have a responsibility to explain how and to what degree these polls are weighted.

2) This practice is not specific to CNN, but is common in the entire polling industry, and as we head into 2012, OUR TIME will highlight the importance of reaching young Americans -- whether by cell phone or through internet outreach.

3) The polling industry must innovate -- Americans under 35 are not contacted in 2011 in the same way it was done in 1981 -- before there were cell phones and social media outlets. Multimillion dollar news outlets must make the investment to reach our demographic in order to reflect public opinion accurately. The commercial world can reach us. It is not too much to expect the polling industry to be able to reach us.

We invite Keating Holland, polling analysts such as Nate Silver, and other leading pollsters to work with OUR TIME to make polls truly representational samples of young people and call on OUR TIME members to propose solutions around ways to increase accessibility to our generation.

 

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Earlier this week CNN/Opinion Research released a series of national polls that seemed to represent young Americans (under the age of 35) marginally at best, if at all. Specifically, they listed respo...
Earlier this week CNN/Opinion Research released a series of national polls that seemed to represent young Americans (under the age of 35) marginally at best, if at all. Specifically, they listed respo...
 
 
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01:24 PM on 04/25/2011
As polling in recent elections have shown, phone polls are scewed conservative by around 5%. This is mostly due to the lack of young and minority respondents who are less likely to use landline phones and who tend to hold progressive views.
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Desiree Martello
05:11 PM on 04/24/2011
I'm in that in between baby boomer age of 47. If we ever want to change our country's archaic good ole boy democracy we have to listen to our young people. They are the Nation's future.
ydrittmann
Vitter patronizes women.
11:32 AM on 04/25/2011
They are also poorly educated. Not their fault but scary.
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Kriol Kidd
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02:12 PM on 04/23/2011
CNN is getting less and less relevant by the minute. Nothing is more frustrating than waking up and wanting to check the news just to make sure its still safe to go outside, and CNN has 3 overly chipper hosts telling us what kind of cake is going to be served at the royal wedding. I'm not the least bit surprised that they took such a lousy survey. It's sad when you have to get your U.S. news from the BBC.
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11:07 PM on 04/22/2011
100% of respondents between 18 and 34 didn't give a crap about gays getting married, and the desk of CNN's boss caught on fire.

"Chief Executive Jeff Bewkes received total compensation for 2010 of about $26.3 million."
10:21 PM on 04/22/2011
CNN is an Establishment megaphone, and its polling and reporting reflect that. CNN apparently never saw a war or a big corporation that it didn't like. CNN's idea of fair reporting is to interview two Establishment spokesmen who differ only slightly on the issues. Not that the other networks are much better; they all reek of Establishment values and complacency. None of networks -- that I have seen -- reports honestly on the wars. They have virtually given up reporting the numerous civilian casualties, many of whom are women and children. They all bend over backward to suck up to the Establishment and to further the political agendas of the rich and powerful. Only MSNBC's evening lineup provides some intelligent dissent and "inconvenient truth"; without those folks there would be no television alternative to the lies and distortions dished out by Establishment politicians and their media surrogates. I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for CNN to report that most American young people want marijuana and gay marriage to be legalized. That might anger the religious right, which obviously wields considerable influence over CNN these days. I can't wait for Sunday, when CNN no doubt will devote hours to footage of old men in strange hats engaged in esoteric rituals -- but you can bet that none of those rituals will involve marijuana or anyone who is openly gay.
ydrittmann
Vitter patronizes women.
11:33 AM on 04/25/2011
Openly.
05:05 PM on 04/22/2011
This is a waste of time. Polling is a science that takes a very small sample of the targeted group and if they do the correct job, they take all sub groups within the target into account. Further, CNN's polls are not at all influential. They have been noted for doing "push polling" where the respondent is asked leading questions.
04:18 PM on 04/22/2011
I will say I have been called for polls by Rasmussen on my cell phone.
04:08 PM on 04/22/2011
This is why I do not trust the popularity figures for our President.I do not believe the pollsters are adequately marking the younger generation because it is the 65+ age group who is most likely to answer the pollsters when they call. The younger of us have stuff to do, 65+ age group doesn't.
02:24 AM on 04/23/2011
That may be true, but also the 65+ crowd votes at a much higher rate as well. Even in 2008, 20 year olds turned out to vote at about 45% while 60 year olds turned out around 73%. Even those who are 30 only turned out around 57%, those from about 55-78 or so turned out around 70-73% it didn't drop off until 80+ (which I would guess is because as people get older it is harder to vote, or are more likely to be in failing health).

So if the only ages voting over 70% are those from 55-78, polls that lean more heavily on them, are probably more accurate since they are the ones who will vote. For all 20 year olds who had love for Obama only about 45% tuned out.

http://www.pollster.com/blogs/turnout_by_age_20002008.php?nr=1
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Leadsled
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01:43 PM on 04/25/2011
You are right, he would probably be far less popular if they polled a larger percentage of the people who elected him thinking he would, you know, actually do something for us. Most of my fellow young democrats that I know would support a primary challenge from the left.
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04:02 PM on 04/22/2011
Agreed. There are way too many polls professing to some 'truth' or 'meaning' which have absolutely no meaning or truth due to the faulty input. As we say in my profession: Garbage in, garbage out. Why even spend the money? You prove nothing. Utter. Waste. Of. Time.
03:56 PM on 04/22/2011
It's understandable that you want CNN and other pollsters to include a fair number of younger people, but what you're missing is that, under the Telephone Consumer Protection Act, it's illegal to call cell phones using random digit dialing, which as you know is how most pollsters conduct telephone polls (I'd say something like 90% or more telephone polls are conducted this way). In order to reach out to mobile users, pollsters would have to incur grotesquely large costs, and polls would take much, much longer.

A poll isn't reality: it's just a little picture of what reality possibly (probably) is. Why spend so much time and money on a little picture that will be retaken by someone else in a month or so anyway? Besides, the overall integrity of the CNN poll remains intact: it fits the trend we're seeing in all nationwide polls on this issue.

By the way, when Prop 8 and similar bills come up for actual votes, you're going to want polls that show what "likely voters" are thinking - and people in my generation just don't tend to fall into that category as much as older people do. I'd rather get a realistic picture than a "fair" one.

I agree with your sentiment (despite the gigantic error in your original email, which is generously buried in this blog post), but I think you're grossly oversimplifying the issue.
06:48 PM on 04/22/2011
If younger people weren't also prejudiced against gays, then why is there such a serious problem with gays being bullied in school? And why is Jerry Falwell's KKKristian University still in business?
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01:44 PM on 04/25/2011
First off, because media hype makes you think it is a "serious problem". Secondly, because 7 year old "younger people" are very different from 30 year old "younger people". Thirdly, because one bully out of a group of 100 people can still bully even if everyone else has little problem with homosexuality.
03:48 PM on 04/22/2011
Part of the issue is that they often have to poll people that pick up a landline phone. Since most younger people rely on cell phones it's harder to poll them.
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Desiree Martello
05:20 PM on 04/24/2011
There is no excuse. Social media has made a way to even that discrepancy.