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When asked whether the U.S. can win the World Cup, many of the American players have been circumspect. Some dodge the question. U.S. star Landon Donovan even did his best not to emulate Joe Namath by dismissing the possibility of the U.S. lifting the cup. While this demonstrates that our players are relatively self-aware and grounded, there is an easy answer to the question of whether the U.S. can win the World Cup: YES.

Now, I don't think the U.S. will win the World Cup, and the 50 to 1 betting odds of the U.S. winning are about right (in 2002, we were 200 to 1). Only seven countries have won it, after all. But while the U.S. is not a likely contender, we should not go into this tournament with such a defeatist attitude. We can win this thing. This is the 30th anniversary of the Miracle on Ice, and the similarities between the periods are striking -- a deep economic recession, a nation depressed in the wake of an ill-pursued war, and an oil crisis -- by that fact, we are destined to win this thing!

More seriously, while saying we can win might seem far-fetched, a victory might not be as miraculous as one would think. Here are some reasons for hope:

This is a tournament, not a league season, and crazy things can happen. Remember Butler got to the NCAA basketball finals this year -- they were a 40 to 1 shot. George Mason got to the final four a few years back as well. Okay, that's basketball, but in 2002 the Greeks won the European championships, which is overall a more competitive tournament than the World Cup. Denmark similarly won the Euros in 1992. In fact, the potential unpredictability of a World Cup is enhanced because the teams are made up of players that don't regularly play together. Some teams with great players just don't work well together, are unbalanced, or never quite gel. That said, some teams gel seamlessly and can get hot and go on a run. Throw in a few lucky bounces or refereeing decisions, and boom you're in reach of the Cup.

We have come close. ln 2002, the U.S. dominated Germany in the quarterfinals and were a handball away from the semifinals where they would have faced a South Korea team that they had already drawn with. It would have been quite conceivable that the U.S. could have beaten South Korea, finding themselves in the finals against Brazil -- we almost assuredly would have lost, but who knows what can happen in 90 minutes. Also, just last year the U.S. got to the finals in the Confederations' Cup, beat Spain and were 2-0 up on Brazil. The US can play with the worlds best and is capable of pulling off an upset.

It's not in Europe and it's cold. European teams tend to do badly when the tournament isn't close to them. In 2002, the big teams collapsed like flies, leading South Korea and Turkey to make the semifinals. In 2006, the European clubs did well. Additionally, it will be fairly cold, since it is winter in South Africa. This should cause some problems for, bizarrely, African teams, as well as South American sides. In other words, when the World Cup is played outside of Europe and South America, wacky things can happen.

The draw is relatively favorable. The top half of the World Cup draw -- groups A, B, C, D -- are weaker than the other four. The best teams in this half of the draw are Argentina, England, Germany, Serbia and France. Compare that to Brazil, Portugal, Holland, Spain and Italy. With the exception of Argentina, the U.S. matches up fairly well against the rest. Should the U.S. make it out of the group, it will likely play an injury-hampered Germany or Serbia. The U.S. would be expected to lose, but both those teams play a physical European style that the U.S. can match up to well. Now, if the U.S. gets past that game, things get interesting. If the U.S. were to avoid Argentina (by winning the group or Argentina falling apart under Diego Maradona), and should France collapse, the U.S. could quite reasonably face rival Mexico in the quarterfinals -- a game the US might be favored to win. The path to the semifinals could be through Serbia and Mexico. At that point, the U.S. is in the semifinals and who knows what can happen.

World football is more balanced. Yes only seven teams have won the World Cup, but much of this is due to the fact that world football for the 20th century was essentially dominated by Europe and a few South American countries. That is still the case, but talent is spreading more widely now, and the top leagues now feature players from all over the world -- Africa, Asia, and North America.

Finally, you got to believe you can. Do I think the US is going to? I wouldn't bet on it, but it is not so far-fetched that one shouldn't hold out hope.

As the World Cup goes on, the elite teams that remain tend to start clicking on all cylinders, which means that the U.S., even if they are playing out of their heads, are likely going to lose at some point. But just as hope springs eternal every February when pitchers and catchers report to spring training, in the week prior to the World Cup, hope should be springing in the U.S.

 
When asked whether the U.S. can win the World Cup, many of the American players have been circumspect. Some dodge the question. U.S. star Landon Donovan even did his best not to emulate Joe Namath by ...
When asked whether the U.S. can win the World Cup, many of the American players have been circumspect. Some dodge the question. U.S. star Landon Donovan even did his best not to emulate Joe Namath by ...
 
 
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04:14 AM on 06/10/2010
LOL
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DrObvious
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09:34 PM on 06/09/2010
Like Mr. Bergmann's attitude. It'd be good to get out of group, and not out of reach. Anything past that would be real success. Go US!
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07:49 PM on 06/09/2010
It all boils down to effectiveness in front of the net. A clear goal missed is a goal against. I remember back in 2002 when my country (Costa Rica) played Brazil. On paper it was a complete mismatch, and the finally score reflected that reality (2-5). Only thing is, Costa Rica missed 5 clear opportunities to score in that game. It's usually teams that can press, defend well, (which usually translates to clear fast break opportunities) and have high effectiveness in front of goal the one's that advance. Dominating your opponent without it being reflected in the scoreboard is worthless. Also, a healthy amount of luck goes a long way in the tournament, even though some country's weigh heavily on the referees. Holland, Spain, and Mexico are legit. All those three nations practice offensive and effective football. Mexico is a definite dark horse, and looked extremely polished in their friendly against Italy. Argentina could make some noise, and they tend to do well when entering the tournament with lower expectations. Specially after having a very difficult qualifying campaign and mediocre friendlies.
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02:51 PM on 06/09/2010
For me, moving on from the Round Robin would be very good. Getting a win in the knockout round would be a major victory.

I don't know enough about the players on the field, but hearing about the captain of the England team being out with an injury gives me some hope.

Is this enough for us to have a reasonable chance of upsetting the Brits?
03:28 PM on 06/09/2010
Beating England would be no greater upset than the U.S. beating Spain last summer. So sure, it's possible. Still, I think the odds are remote. Even without Rio Ferdinand, England's defensive players are far superior to the U.S.'s, as are the likes of Lampard and Gerrard in midfield and the incomparable Rooney at striker. Not to mention the fact that Capello is unlikely to leave his team unprepared. Still, anything can happen. Howard could play out of his mind in goal and the U.S. could get one or two scores on a quick counterattack.
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09:38 PM on 06/09/2010
gotta figure England to dominate possession, given their talent. so quick counters, or an unusually strong match holding the ball could create the opportunities we need. let's hope we finish every chance
02:19 PM on 06/09/2010
Theoretically, anything's possible. But in recent history, there has never been an out-and-out underdog from a non-soccer-power country that has won. Brazil, Argentina, Germany, France, Italy, England -- that's it, right? Given that, I'd say the odds of the U.S. winning should be more like 1,000 to 1 than 50 to 1. But if they get hot like they did last summer in South Africa, making it to the first round, quarterfinals and perhaps even semi-finals is not out of the question.

The main reason why I think this won't happen, however, is that the U.S. is very weak in defense. Onyewu can't be at 100 percent and DeMerit and Goodson aren't good enough. They could move Bocanegra to central defense but that would leave a gaping hole on the side (he and Cherundolo are the U.S.' only good outside backs). And I don't think any team can go far without solid D. Also (as I've noted elsewhere), the exclusion of the most talented player IMHO, Torres, is an utter mystery.

I'm rooting for Spain because their game is the prettiest, though I suspect Brazil's toughness under Dunga might cause them to prevail (ironic for Brazil to win ugly). If Maradona didn't coach Argentina, I'd put them right up there. And as always, England is overhyped and overrated, though they should beat the US and for once they have a quality coach.
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03:05 PM on 06/09/2010
Uruguay too, but that was a long time ago
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Tasies
07:51 PM on 06/09/2010
England tends to be over hyped. They, off course had 66, and performed well in 90', but I stopped putting my chips in England's basket after 98.'
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01:09 PM on 06/09/2010
good luck to the US. i hope they do well so that more of them get into football and realise why the rest of the world plays it - cos it's the beautiful game y'see..

they did well in the last world cup - good game against Italy and then they went on to beat Spain last year which was epic and hardly anyone in the US even realises how momentous that was seeing as Spain were rated as no.1 in the world.

all i hope as an england fan is that for once we go out there and play boldly and beautifully, trouble is we never do, we always go out there and suck, scrape-thru the groups stages while the coach says, 'oh it's all part of the plan' and then as soon as we come to a team of real quality we fall apart and blame it on whatever random bullshit we can come up with.

the problem with england is we rely on set-pieces and they are not entertaining and do not win world cups.. teams like Argentina, Spain and Brazil will always prevail against us while we maintain that attitude.

so to the game on saturday, good luck to you guys but better luck to us..

: )

60 years since eh? bring it on!!!!
12:39 PM on 06/09/2010
Absolutely no chance of the USA winning the World Cup


Second phase at most.
12:40 AM on 06/10/2010
im glad you didn't get elected president... sheesh
08:37 AM on 06/09/2010
I guess USA has pretty good chances of being 3rd or 4th, no more than that. The problem with the USA team is the lack of a real star. It´s a very competitive team, but without a real franchise player (Ronaldo, Messi, Kaká, Rooney et. al.) it´s quite difficult to get it. That´s why I think Spain will fail, although they´ve got the best team.
Regarding the comment "It´s not Europe but it´s cold", I would say it does not make sense. Brazil won the World Cup in Sweden. Argentina, Uruguay and Chile, three of the Latin America contenders, have cold winters and their top players are mostly playing in Europe.
06:30 AM on 06/09/2010
Good article, one of few about footy on the Huff. Being an England fan I similarly feel quite optimistic about our chances of progressing on this side of the draw, I have no doubt that both England and the USA will qualify from the group and then anything can happen. One thing that wasn't mentioned up there was about how well Australia performed at the last World Cup, I think this would be a good comparison given that both teams have plenty of players in European club football and the national sides have improved over the last decade or so. Australia should have progressed further last time and got knocked out by the eventual winners of the tournament despite out playing them for 85 minutes then getting a bad decision given against them. Can argue that they should have taken their chances but on another day they'd have put three or four past Italy.

FYI, it was Euro 2004 that Greece won (not 2002 as above). Don't mean to be pedantic but I actually went. Was a great tournament and got to see Greece knock out France which was hilarious (also got to see Portugal knock out England on penalties which was slightly less funny).

Come on England!
04:48 PM on 06/08/2010
Well no, the US has zero chance of winning the World Cup

We don't have an elite coach as has been shown NUMEROUS times
We don't have anywhere close to the talent as has been shown EVERY time
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06:05 PM on 06/08/2010
zero chance----then if i bet a dollar on the us you would pay an infinite number of dollars to me if they do win? that is correct math.
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03:02 PM on 06/09/2010
50 to 1 odds. Do the math =)
11:51 AM on 06/08/2010
Hell yeah! I'm rooting for US all the way! I know the odds are long, but its great to be the underdogs sometimes.
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06:48 PM on 06/08/2010
lol...now you lot know what its like to be English. We say the same thing every two years (euros thrown in) even though we know deep down (well, not so deep down...) that we will be out in the quarterfinals to penalties.

Saying that, the US have no chance. England will bring football home.

*cries*