Max Blumenthal

Max Blumenthal

Posted: October 16, 2009 11:34 AM

Joe Scarborough, the "Real Conservative," Has Been Blinded by the Right

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Before I first appeared on Morning Joe on September 22, I was warned about Joe Scarborough's tendency to filibuster guests he does not agree with, and to do so in a belligerent manner. But to my surprise, the former Republican congressman proved a remarkably genial host, presiding over a civil but spirited discussion of my book, Republican Gomorrah and extremism in the GOP.

Perhaps Joe's civility was rooted in cluelessness; when I was announced on the set as "the YouTube Michael Moore," Scarborough excitedly asked a producer if I was "the ACORN guy," referring to James O'Keefe, the young right-wing activist whose hidden cameras prompted a congressional investigation into the Obama-linked community- organizing group. Nevertheless, by the end of my segment, Joe promised to bring me back on. "I want to debate you more on this," Scarborough insisted.

I returned on October 7, just days after Scarborough instigated a food fight with Rush Limbaugh, by criticizing his higher-rated competitor for celebrating Obama's failure to secure the 2016 Olympics for Chicago. Scarborough opened the segment by launching a scattershot of breathless accusations at me, including that I was being "intolerant" of evangelical Christians "concerned by the radicalism of the 1960s."

When I attempted to respond that figures like Rep. Trent Franks (R-AZ), who had labeled President Barack Obama "an enemy of humanity," were the truly intolerant ones, and that the right-wing opposition sought nothing less than the delegitimization of the president, Scarborough rattled off a flurry of examples -- each one without context -- of supposed Democratic extremism. Joe pointed twice to Rep. Jerry Nadler, who had called the disruptions of town hall-style health care forums by the far-right Tea Party movement "a fascist tactic."

"My point to you was that we can both pick out extreme rhetoric on both sides who are reckless and irresponsible on both sides" Scarborough declared. "We've gotta step back and try to figure out how to heal this country."

But were "both sides" equally culpable for the conflict currently polarizing the country? This narrative had been popular among many pundits during Obama's campaign for president and might have survived after his inauguration had Obama not gone to excessive lengths to generate bipartisan Republican sponsorship for health care reform while tens of thousands of right-wingers marched on the National Mall with signs comparing him to Hitler and Stalin; or if Senator Charles Grassley (R-IA), of the ranking Republican negotiating health care on the Finance Committee, had not warned that Obama might "pull the plug on grandma" if his health care plan passed, and urged his constituents to read Glenn Beck.

If I agreed with Scarborough's storyline celebrating an end to the culture war the right has intensified against Obama, then, as Rodney King might have said, we could have all just got along. Instead, when I refused to accept his version and debated it, the host grew exasperated and angry, shouting again, "You're being intolerant!"

Scarborough's reflexive response to the question of the right's responsibility for the trashing of Obama was to dilute and confuse the issue by blaming "the 1960s," the original focus of the right's culture war for decades. With the dog-whistle of "the 1960's," Joe instantly transformed into a 1994 re-enactor, recalling the crusade when he and a group of young conservatives backed Newt Gingrich's Contract for America, attempted to cut off AIDS research funding, seized the Congress, twice shut down the federal government, and impeached Bill Clinton in the name of the culture war. In touting his record as an authentic "small government conservative," Scarborough claimed credit for the federal budget surplus, prompting me to remind him that the surplus was created through Clinton's economic stewardship. The mere mention of Clinton seemed to incite Scarborough's rage even further.

As the interview turned into a heated debate because I insisted on answering his accusations, Scarborough muttered to a producer, "I'm done!" After remaining silent throughout the confrontation with a Stepford-like stare, Joe's co-host, Mika Brzezinski, terminated the segment. "We don't do Crossfire here," Scarborough muttered to me after the cameras went off. He was visibly upset and unable to make eye contact with me.

As I was hurried off the tense set, I wonder why, when challenged, did Scarborough retreat into an attempt to validate his own career in Congress? Perhaps he believes the hype of a few pundits who claim he could contend for the 2012 GOP presidential nomination by campaigning, in the words of Andy Ostrow, as "the guy to bring a different GOP tone to the next election." Or perhaps he is trying to balance constituencies, appealing to his old conservative base while trying to project as a healer blaming all sides for the vicious attacks on Obama.

But as Scarborough observes national politics from a hermetically-sealed studio inside 30 Rock, long removed from his old congressional district in Florida, the Republican Party had sailed past the farthest shores of the right. And as Joe conjures stereotypical scenes of "Real Americans" alienated by "the 1960s," grassroots conservative activists have waging a '60s-style guerrilla campaign astro-turfed by right-wing groups determined disrupt the public debate, demonize Obama and overthrow him.

I became a target of this campaign when I appeared at the University of California-Riverside on October 1 to discuss my book and join in a panel discussion about the Republican Party in the age of Obama. As soon as the panel began, a group of approximately twenty College Republicans leapt in front of the stage, deliberately blocking the view of audience members with signs labeling me a "Michael Moore Wannabe" and "Leftist Hack."

The demonstration might have been amusing had it stopped there.

Then a husky young man Ryan Sorba who seemed to be directing the College Republican theatrics began heckling my fellow panelists with racist and homophobic slurs. When Mark Takano, an openly gay former Democratic congressional candidate and local community college trustee, attempted to speak, Sorba blew kisses at him and shouted, "Autograph my dick!" Sorba echoed Glenn Beck's critique of Obama as "a guy who has a deep-seated hatred of white people" in heckling Jonathan Walton, an African-American professor of religion. "Racist! Racist!" Sorba screamed when Walton attempted to field questions from the audience.

When a university administrator summoned campus police to remove Sorba, he was dismissively told by Sgt. Seth Morrison that I was "not a legitimate speaker," though I was invited as part of a regular university speakers' program. And the disruption continued.

Sorba, I discovered, is not a disgruntled citizen, but a professional agitator, a paid operative of the Intercollegiate Studies Institute, a heavily funded, Delaware-based outfit that provides a support structure for conservative academics while grooming a cadre of student activists to, in the group's own words, "battle the radicals and PC types on campuses." Sorba has received his paycheck through a fellowship established by Rich DeVos, a far-right Republican billionaire who founded the Amway pyramid scheme and owns the Orlando Magic (Ryan's bio has been mysteriously scrubbed from ISI's website since I first published this.)

Besides founding dozens of Republican youth groups across the country, Sorba has devoted an exceptional amount of energy to his interest in homosexuals. With help from ISI's publishing arm, Sorba authored a voluminous tract called "The Born Gay Hoax," arguing that homosexuality is at once a curable disease and a bogus trend manufactured by academic leftists.

After my talk, two UC-Riverside students revealed to me that they had attended junior high school with Sorba. "He always had serious behavior issues," one of them remarked. "He's like a character from your book," said another. Thus the culture war against "the 1960s" lives on.

Back in New York, Scarborough was reeling from Limbaugh's counterattack. The day after I appeared on Morning Joe, Limbaugh mocked Scarborough as "a neutered, chickified moderate" desperate to "sell another couple of books to go with the 1,000 he already sold to Democrats." Scarborough, for his part, projected himself as the "real conservative" while accusing Limbaugh of having "put [his] testicles in a blind trust for George W. Bush for eight years."

Swinging wildly between calculated appeals to "healing" and defensive claims to ideological purity, Scarborough has become a living embodiment of the conflict consuming the Republican Party -- the "real conservative" blinded by the right. It was not surprising that my appearance on his show became contentious because it shed light on his and many Republicans' dilemma -- "I'm done."

 

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- DanialThom I'm a Fan of DanialThom 4 fans permalink

Polls show that a lot more people than right-wing republicans think that Obama is dangerous. Its just abut everyone who is paying attention

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:35 AM on 10/23/2009
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Mr. Blumenthal, you are so "right-on point"! I did not see the show for two reasons: (1) it became so difficult for me to stomach loud mouth Joe's ("Bat" Buchanan's and others) right-wing hateful rant and rhetoric; to watch Mika (the "Stepford wife") cow down and kiss his ass; and (2) I am American living in Dubai and, amazingly, and very correctly, the show was stripped from all cable channels, along with Fox News! Hallelujah! The only thing I miss is credible when guests come on and rip his bigoted (and his right-wing cohearts) ass to shreads! I never understood why anyone credible and truth-telling, like Dr. Bzenski (who should be totally embarassed) and yourself, would ever come on the show anyway! I totally agree with Kevin G above, "Sigh...MoJoe should replace Fox&Friends for all I care...." One thing is for sure: you will never be invited back!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:18 AM on 10/21/2009
- texmike I'm a Fan of texmike 11 fans permalink

All it comes down to is that time and time again, conservatives bypass rational, substantive arguments (or are simply incapable of making them) and choose to be consumed by and intimidate others through hysteria, paranoia and fear. And then act befuddled as to why they aren't taken more seriously.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:48 AM on 10/20/2009
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Thank you, texmike.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:33 PM on 10/20/2009

So the Dems saying back in the 90's that the Repub Congress wanted your grandparents to eat dog food and that the GOP wanted them to die, or the allegations that the Reagan and Bush I administrations sold crack to inner city minorities, or that Bush II had a secret deal with the Saudi royals and planned and knew about 911, or Speaker Pelosi calling the town hallers brown-shir­ts...those aren't incendiary? Its got to stop but both sides do it.

Look at Clinton and the war in Kosovo - Dems supported it, Repubs hated it. Bush II in Iraq, Repubs support, Dems hate it. Did it ever occur to anyone that no one is consistent and all we end up doing is hating the other side and opposing things not b/c we disagree with the issue, but b/c we don't like the other side?

Now, Obama hates Fox, Bush hated MSNBC. How about they both let them do whatever reporting they want. No matter who is president, I want someone out there who reports things the president does not want them to report. Just like MSNBC and CNN did to Bush, I want Fox there for Obama. Let people speak and be heard. Yeah First Amendment!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:06 AM on 10/20/2009
- tdpubs I'm a Fan of tdpubs 88 fans permalink
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I just want everyone to tell the truth. That's the difference. There really is truth out there. If everyone did that, I see no problem with opposition. The problem is that one side of the isle prefers to ignore the truth. The other side is too weak kneed to call them on it.

Opinion is not fact. It is simply opinion.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:36 AM on 10/20/2009

but that is your opinion tdpubs. Are you the monitor of truth? B/c many conservatives believe that those on the left ignore the truth and/or reality. That doesn't make the left liars. Libs are just as inconsistent as conservs. Were the Dems inconsistent by supporting a war in Kosovo but not in Iraq and Afghanistan? Yes, in the same way it makes conservs inconsistent to have not supported the war in Kosovo. Its just funny to me how libs miss that very important point. Further, just as they hate conservs for being "intolerant," libs are intolerant of opposing views and opinions.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:51 PM on 10/20/2009
- BlueFloyd I'm a Fan of BlueFloyd 87 fans permalink
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keep it up my man!!! we got your back against the uglies!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:07 AM on 10/20/2009
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You being yourself, Max, and Joe being the quintessential conservative whose republiCAN'T party has now pushed aside - will NOT soon see eye-to-eye.

Being an ex-Senator of perhaps far more moderate opinions than the general republican't party these days, he STILL prefers his blinkers and traditional liberal enemies - regardless of right and wrong. He's undoubtedly frustrated by all of it too, with nowhere to turn for relief. It's NOT your responsibility to in any way provide him with that bit of wiggle-room either, that the 'rushers' of his own party will not.

From what I've ALWAYS seen, Max being Max likes to make it clear he'll support nobody's hypocrisy. He saves his judgments for those that would pass judgment on others, his intolerance for those being intolerant of others, and his personal prejudice for anyone employing bigotry against others.
I'm your fan, young man, because I feel you BELIEVE this ...just as I do.

As ALL claiming to be progressive SHOULD...

In hindsight, it likely could never have played out otherwise.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:19 PM on 10/19/2009

He was never a Senator.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:06 AM on 10/20/2009
- dillydawg I'm a Fan of dillydawg 58 fans permalink
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Joe S. is guilty of having tunnel vision. The show is unwatchable.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:51 AM on 10/17/2009
- ilse I'm a Fan of ilse 51 fans permalink

Joe couldn't outdo you so he ended the show. Too funny! We should be compiling a list of all the crazy right wing and republican officials that have made the biggest fools out of themselves. The list is long and we can give the winner a prize out of a cracker jack box. Of course it's not the same as president Obama getting the Nobel Peace Prize, but you only get what you're worth.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:38 AM on 10/17/2009
- underoath I'm a Fan of underoath 253 fans permalink
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Scarborough only see's what he want's to see

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:08 AM on 10/17/2009
- bdaved I'm a Fan of bdaved 30 fans permalink

"People only see the things they think they want to see."
from "x's for i's"

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:45 PM on 10/17/2009
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MoJoe is simply living in a fantasy land like all Republicans are. They wish to death we were the most powerful country on earth (China now has that honor), that we didn't spend money on anything that helps the poor, that the things the SCOTUS of the 50s and 60s created never were created, that women are nothing more than housewives and have no choice when it comes to abortion, and that all Television was strictly shows you'd find on the christian networks and Pat Robertson's establishment. They are so in that fantasy, that they tune out those with a different opinion. And every day MoJoe's attitude is different, as if he's drunk one day and sober the next. And Mika isn't any better as she's the resident "Stepford Wife" to MoJoe. WillieG is the only guy on that show that doesn't make me think he/she is weird AND HE'S THE ODD NEWS GUY. Sigh...MoJoe should replace Fox&Friends for all I care....

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:53 AM on 10/17/2009

Joe is living in the past, relating everything happening today to his short - and long ago - term in Congress. Things have changed dramatically since then but Joe has trouble admitting that his party has fallen off a cliff, and he either has to become more tolerant of Democrats or openly join the Wingnuts. No wonder he's conflicted!

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:24 AM on 10/17/2009
- goodog I'm a Fan of goodog 128 fans permalink
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Max touched th severed nerve and the 9/12 teabirthers exploded in P(olitical­)C(onserva­tive) outrage and victimhood.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:07 AM on 10/17/2009
- water57 I'm a Fan of water57 22 fans permalink

Joe is always trying to justify the far right behavior by bring up far left passed behavior. When he try to justify their behavior, he is actually condone it. Joe share one behavior trait with the far left, his level of anger.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:11 AM on 10/17/2009
- postman66 I'm a Fan of postman66 315 fans permalink
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Max I watch Morning Joe daily and while not a fan of Joe's I find the format engaging. You are so right, Joe is sooo conflicted, that one does not know what to expect from one day to the next. By the way bought the book after seeing you on YouTube, thanks.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:54 AM on 10/17/2009

Joe belongs on Fox and because his inability to hear a different view than his like he did with Blumenthal, I quit watching the show all together. If anything interesting happens on the show (not often) I can read it on the internet. Three hours, a big waste of time.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:44 AM on 10/17/2009
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