My Interview With Pastor Hagee On His Anti-Semitic Statements (and What Will Lieberman Say Now?)

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Posted May 22, 2008 | 08:23 PM (EST)




During a press conference at the 2007 Christians United for Israel Washington-Israel Summit, I asked CUFI Executive Director Pastor John Hagee about passages in his book "Jerusalem Countdown" in which he appeared to blame Jews for their own persecution. Hagee was visibly piqued by my question, insisting that his statements were directly inspired by the Book of Deuteronomy. When I attempted to ask Hagee a follow-up question, a public relations agent, Kara Silverman, a former intern for AIPAC, cut me off.

Moments later, a team of off-duty DC police officers hired by CUFI surrounded my co-producer and I and demanded that we immediately leave the conference, threatening us with arrest if refused to comply. You can view my exchange with Hagee and the ensuing fracas at 7:45 of my video report on CUFI's summit, "Rapture Ready":

For nearly two years, a handful of independent journalists and I have raised the alarm about Hagee's long record of anti-Semitic statements. Until now, our reporting has been largely ignored by the mainstream press and the politicians who have clamored for Hagee's support. The supposedly "pro-Israel" groups that have joined with Hagee in support of Israeli military aggression, providing him with much-needed moral cover in the process, have also turned a blind eye to the pastor's Judeophobic tendencies.

Michelle Goldberg was, as far as I know, the first journalist to point out Hagee's Holocaust apologia, exposing his now-infamous "Hitler was a hunter" statement in a piece for the Huffington Post in November 2006. When AIPAC invited Hagee to headline its annual conference in March 2007, I noted Hagee's repugnant views on the Holocaust and his record of anti-Semitic remarks in a Huffington Post article entitled, "AIPAC Cheers an Anti-Semitic Holocaust Revisionist (and Abe Foxman Approves)."

Though this disturbing information was widely disseminated, and was accessible simply by Googling Hagee's name, the John McCain campaign courted Hagee's endorsement, and ultimately accepted it in a highly publicized ceremony three months ago.

Now, thanks to the work of the tenacious researcher Bruce Wilson, (see Bruce's video here) the website Talk2Action, and a massive push by the liberal blogosphere, the McCain campaign has been forced to cut ties with its most influential Christian right supporter. But McCain's reversal on Hagee's endorsement does not in any way signal that Hagee will suddenly recede from politics, or that the pastor's influence in Washington will wane. In fact, Hagee still maintains a close relationship with one of McCain's key political allies, a turncoat senator who is likely to become his secretary of defense if he is elected president: Joseph Lieberman.

During a banquet at CUFI's 2007 convention, I watched with astonishment as Lieberman strode to the stage, then compared Hagee to Moses (watch Lieberman's remarks at 5:30 of my video) "I want to take to opportunity to describe Pastor Hagee in the terms the Torah used to describe Moses," Lieberman declared. "He is an Ish Elohim. A man of God. And those words really do fit him. And I have something else," the senator continued. "Like Moses, he's become the leader of a mighty multitude. Even greater than the multitude that Moses led from Egypt to the Promised Land."

Was Lieberman aware at the time of Hagee's statements about Jews and the Holocaust? I don't know. But with McCain's tacit acknowledgment of Hagee's anti-Semitism, Lieberman must now decide: is Hagee a man of God, or just a mamzer?

Update: A friend just sent me Lieberman's defense of Hagee during a 5/13/08 Fox News segment:

SEN. LIEBERMAN: Well, look, I think that the DNC is obviously doing this because they set Pastor Hagee as some kind of response to Reverend Wright for Senator Obama. But I don't think that's fair in the basic way that everybody's already said which is that John McCain never went to Pastor Hagee's church. He accepted his endorsement. He represents a lot of people in this country, particularly Christians who care about the state of Israel. He founded a group called Christians United for Israel.

And statements that were brought out that he had made about the Catholic Church were a total surprise to me. I know to Senator McCain they were obviously reprehensible. And I give Pastor Hagee a lot of credit for just plain apologizing. And I must say there's a difference because Reverend Wright never did apologize. He just restated the objectionable and reprehensible things he had said.

Correction: I misidentified Kara Silverman as Alison Silverman and incorrectly stated that she was the former assistant communications director for AIPAC. She was an intern for AIPAC.

 
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Pro-Israel Christofascists.

Messianic Zionist Jews.

In the same boat.

Where is it going?

Shhhhhhhh. Don't ask. Both groups are silent.

One group thinks it will convert the other to get where it wants.

The other group thinks it can use the other group and then make it want what it gets.

Ok.

So where IS it going?

Think Titanic.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:04 AM on 05/28/2008
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The scary thing is that these people organize and vote!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:07 PM on 05/25/2008

What is scary and tragic is that Hagee has a congregation of several thousand people including African Americans and Latinos. A few years back his church was doing a fund raiser where they conducted a "slave auction". Hagee later apologized for this act of insensitivity.

The man apart from being a glutton (he weighs around 300 or more pounds) has a lot of simple minded "christians" duped into thinking his teachings are the real thing! My bet is that if Jesus were around he would chastise this bloated bag of hate and send him straight to hell where he and kind belong!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:39 AM on 05/27/2008
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"Ever wonder who is responsible for causing more wars? Religion or Israel? Go back and look at the history of each! "
-FalseFlagWorld

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Cant say explicitly which is worse; but this should shed some light.

http://www.pubrecord.org/index.php?view=article&catid=8%3Acommentary&id=61%3Apentagon-connected-ministrys-obama-bashing-message&option=com_content&Itemid=11

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:39 PM on 05/25/2008

As one who is fighting the big lie propaganda against Rev. Wright, I have learned to be very skeptical of well chosen sound bites.

Hearing the actual words of Wright compared to the snippets makes me very wary about my belief that Max Blumenthal's mocumentary of snippets is a fair representation of Hagee.

So take it all in as unprocessed information, but don't make any drastic decisions until you have a chance to find out more.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:30 PM on 05/25/2008

Ever wonder who is responsible for causing more wars? Religion or Israel? Go back and look at the history of each!

Peace to all
especially realists!
There is no god.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:19 PM on 05/25/2008

It's frightening how these zealots can talk about peace in the middle east in one breath, and then root for a "pre-emptive" strike against Iran the next. I saw a bumper sticker once that said "Religion stops a thinking mind"--no better proof of that than the right wingnuts in the video. If it wasn't so dangerous to our entire world, it would be funny.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:40 AM on 05/24/2008

I met someone who said Hitler killed all those Jews because he couldn't get a student loan. People have all kinds of different views. As for Hagee, I think he is a non issue when it comes to who is going to be president. Just like Wright. These are not the people who will be running the country and I do not believe that John or Barack share their views. I hope this country will focus on the issues. As for these Pastors, who cares. Wake up America and vote on the issues.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:56 AM on 05/24/2008

People like Hagee intend to influence foreign policy- it is not just a matter of the beliefs of evangelicals, but the fact that they have a religious doctrine about "the end times" that makes democratic debate and thoughtful discussion simply impossible. The fact that a candidate for the U.S. presidency sought out this loon ought to make people question Mr. McCain's faculties.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:50 AM on 05/25/2008

Lieberman. Now there is a piece of war mongering work. A true waste of air and water. McCain 's Brain...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:56 AM on 05/25/2008

"Poets, priests and politicians, have words to thank for their positions; words that scream for your submission...". The "Holy Bible" has been edited and re-translated so many times, to suit the political bias of the times... I think there IS a GOD, who creates and then moves on, who built us with the free will to love all creation, or try to exploit and deform it, for selfish motives. It's kinda like a sting operation where you can't prove guilt until the perp actually commits the crime. Life is a pop quiz with only one question; what will you do with yours?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:50 PM on 05/23/2008

Mr. Blumenthal,

Your characterization of Mr. Hagee is disingenuous of his heart for the Jewish people. He is not any more anti-Semitic than a prophet in the Old Testament. I don"t agree with all of his interpretations of scripture, but you cannot say he has any hostility whatsoever toward any Jewish person. Rather the complete opposite. Christians are commanded in scripture to love and pray for Israel and the Jewish people. We support the Jewish people, but have a different view of theology.

It is also a complete misrepresentation to suggest evangelism is anti-Semitic. Every major faith instructs the believer to proselytize their faith to a "non-believer" out of love in an effort to save their soul. Every person who believes what they believe, does so because they believe it is the *true* path to God and Heaven or happiness. If you didn"t, why would you waste your time? The stylish outfits? Every true believer believes their faith is right and every other faith is wrong. Not just the nuts blowing themselves up or the ticked-off folks rioting in the streets over cartoons. And anyone who thinks all paths lead to the same place, really doesn"t believe in anything at all.

Mr. Hagee and Mr. Robertson genuinely love the Jewish people. If you want to expose anti-Semitism, turn on Iranian or Palestinian state TV. It's even corrupted their kid's cartoons! I've seen it!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:37 PM on 05/23/2008

Many do not think other people's faiths are wrong. They simply choose to believe what they believe, often the faith with which they were raised. Many have a respect or even reverence for another's faith, even if different from their own.

The evangelical Christian's believe the Jewish people will not be saved unless they come to accept Jesus. So they will not be saved until they become Christians themselves. It is sort of a love by negation. It is like saying we support you, but really only if you become like us. Israel is only an afterthought to Hagee of Robertson, as a step on the way to the End Times.

Both show hostility toward Islam and a believe that radicals of the faith must be contained through warfare. This approach creates more radicals and reconciliation should be an approach taught by people of faith. I think Hagee and Robertson both have acted on a misinterpretation of the gospels that is very limited and misses the spirit of forgiveness and social justice expressed there..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:06 AM on 05/24/2008

Hagee wants Jews and Arabs in continuous war so that he can profit from his niche end-time jibberish. The fat slob is a psychopath.

Anyone who thinks all paths lead to the same place, and don't think like you and Hagee, so they don't believe anything? Typical evangelical hate speech.

You friggin nut jobs want to get the U.S. at the center of your psychotic Jew/Muslim end-time war, which is what makes you especially dangerous to Americans and the world.

Hagee and Lieberman will be stopped as more people become aware of how dangerous Hagee and CUFI are. We brought down DeLay, and Santorum.

The best thing to happen was Hagee endorsing McBush so that it shines a bigger spot light on CUFI, Hagee, Lieberman, and all these wacko evangelicals that want nothing but war, and wants the U.S. to wage it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:36 AM on 05/24/2008

Oh, yeah "Mr. Hagee and Mr. Robertson genuinely love the Jewish people", if by "love" you mean think that they will go to hell if they don't accept Jesus and the sole reason for the exitance of Israel is to fullfill some end time prophecy. Just look at what 2,000 years of "Christian love" for the Jews have wrought!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:35 AM on 05/24/2008
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You're absolutely right. Hagee loves Jewish people almost as much as Pharaoh did.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:44 AM on 05/25/2008

"Every major faith instructs the believer to proselytize their faith to a "non-believer" out of love in an effort to save their soul."

This is just factually incorrect. Jews do not proselytize and neither do they believe that souls need to be saved. That's a Christian construct. You seem to have an inability to think outside of your own known reality -- you seem to need to apply your reality to other people before you can even attempt to understand them.

"And anyone who thinks all paths lead to the same place, really doesn"t believe in anything at all."

More evidence that you cannot understand ideas that exist outside of your own mental constructs.

I suggest that you stop trying to argue faith-based ideas. It's inappropriate. Belief is fine if it makes you happy and brings meaning to your life, but as soon as you try to argue using your beliefs as premises, then your conclusions are going to be flimsy at best, probably offensive to anyone outside your own narrow sect, and speciously irrational by nature.

Being an apologist for Hagee and Robertson and insisting that you know of their genuine love for the Jewish people is something you might want to reconsider. I think it's possible that the Pro-Israel statements are just good marketing for his niche market and the "Hitler was sent by God" statement is what the man really believes. The two ideas seem incompatible to me. Something's wrong here.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:49 AM on 05/25/2008

Let me put it this way.

If you are a believer in major faith as a Christian, Jew, Muslim, etc...

You believe in certain things you must accept, and/or do, and/or not do, in order to not be punished in something like hell and be rewarded in something like heaven.

If you disagree with this, then why bother practicing the faith? For the fun of it? The snazzy outfits?

In other words you believe you must meet that criteria that exists within your faith. Therefore, if you take your beliefs literally, you also believe those who pursue another faith are not meeting the criteria of your faith. Consequently, you could say anyone who doesn't practice your faith is going to something like hell and/or not going to something like heaven. An "infidel" is a gentile to Jew, muslim to a Christian, Christian to a muslim, etc... Thus it is unfair for Mr. Blumenthal to single out just one manifestation of this view, when it is in fact a reality common to all.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:33 PM on 05/25/2008

Lieberman needs to be held accountable for his high praise of this radical zealot who calls for a preemptive military strike on Iran, and who is known for his fierce opposition to Israel's involvement in any and all peace negotiations. (Hagee sees the peace process as inherently evil.)

J Street, are you listening???? We could use your help here!

http://jstreet.org/about/contact

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:19 PM on 05/23/2008

Hitler and the Zionists both came to the same conclusion: the jews should leave Europe. The Zionists felt that the survival of jewish identity in the face of accelerating cultural assimilation and secularisation in Europe required the establishment of a jewish state in Palestine. Hitler did not like the cultural exclusivity of the jews. Hitler would have been happy for the jews to go to Palestine. It would remove the jews and create big political and military problems for Britain in the Middle-east.
The " final solution" came about because of the refusal of Britain to allow unrestricted jewish migration to Palestine and the refusal of other western powers, namely the US, to accept the European jews. jews were officially encouraged to emmigrate up until 1941. The Zionists were busy resisting any resettlement proposals which did not center on Palestine. Hagee is a nut for believing that Hitler was following God's will in perpetrating the holocaust, but he is not being anti-semitic in pointing out the ironical congruence of thought between the Nazi's and the Zionists on jewish migration.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:59 PM on 05/23/2008

"Hitler would have been happy for the Jews to go to Palestine"??? Eyendall: That is extremely naive. If that were the case he would have merely deported them, not exterminated them.

I've personally been to the Holocaust museum in Israel. One thing that stood out to me was this: a map of the world with before and after Jewish population numbers from the Holocaust.

Which country at the time of Hitler had the highest population of Jewish people? It wasn't Germany. It was the first place Hitler invaded, Poland. Which country saw the largest number of Jewish people murdered? Again, Poland. Hitler was pure evil and he murdered millions of precious, persecuted people. That was his objective. Hitler would not have been "happy" with anything less.

Hagee is not a nut. He is merely interpreting scripture, which means he can be wrong, misinformed on some level. It is never God's will that anyone should suffer. It is absurd to think the Holocaust was God's will. God never ever *wanted* it to happen.

But at the same time, God did allow it to happen, for one simple reason. Free will.

The real question is, since God knew ahead of time it would happen, why did God allow Hitler to be born? Why not just give his mom a miscarriage? Or just give Hitler a heart attack. I'd like to sit down and ask Him. Some believe it was tragically necessary to allow the formation of the state of Israel.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:19 PM on 05/23/2008
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Hey, before any prayer's go up before some throne, so many seem to be praying too; lots of other great spirits (as I call them) decide whether the big boy should be taken away from his 3-cushion billiard table, or Candle Pin Bowling Alley.

Things were set in motion eons ago. The Garden of Eden could not be totally explained to Abraham, who must have been told IT first. Long before Moses.

If you bother to listen to the Rock and Roll Music, of the 7 Pearls of Thunder, kept secret in Revelation 10, you might just open your minds to true reality of these latter days we are living in. Which Daniel, the Lamb and other prophets said would come.

Maybe if you still have a mind to add things all up, this OEN article will stir some stuff up in your head.

http://www.opednews.com/articles/genera_michael__080523_pearls_of_thunder.htm

If not I hope some of you enjoy some tunes that could help this Land show the rest of this Beautiful Planet how things should be done!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:37 PM on 05/23/2008

and therein lies the fallacy, that an all powerful God needed Hitler as a basis for the formation of Isreal? Only nutcases belive this crap. Your so called support for isreal is nothing more than a self centered focus wrapped in words of endearment every now and then to support Israel. If the end product was the creation of Isreal, God could have put it into motion without having to go through Hitler. People like Hagee are opposed to the two state solution, when majority of the residents in Isreal support a two state solution. Who the hell do the Hagees think they are to tell the Jewish people what's best for them, How can Lieberman even defend this man? The status quo is not sustainable for Israel. It would require Genocide against the Palestinians and other Arabs or an Aparthied system which is also not sustainable in the long run. The best option is a two state solution

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:14 AM on 05/25/2008

It's always reassuring to feel the gentle guidance of his noodly appendages.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:35 PM on 05/25/2008

I think that this sort of idea is why I have become an adherant of NO god.

All the Bible believer I have met seem to use the arguement that Good things happen because of god and bad things happen because of free will. "Never Gods will that anyone would suffer" However this All powerful being seems to be perfectly happy if they do, the god involved won't stop the suffering. I am always reminded of the saying "for evil to triumph all that is necessary is for good to do nothing" I hate to say it but that seems to sum up the god of some people. He does nothing and evil triumphs.

Or possibly humans are just crappy people quite often. God's creatures one and all.

I still wish that Christians could tell me, Who did Adam's children marry? Or was it incest that populated the earth? Have wondered about that since I was 12. Never did gat a good answer.. The most common one was that there are things we don't understand.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:41 PM on 05/25/2008

In June of 1895, the first entry into his new journal on Zionism, Theodor Hertzl wrote:
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"In Paris, as I have said, I achieved a freer attitude toward anti-Semitism, which I now began to understand historically and to pardon. Above all, I recognized the emptiness and futility of trying to 'combat' anti-Semitism."
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From Tom Segev, "The Seventh Million: Israelis and the Holocaust" Hill and Wang, NY, 1993

"Traveling on to Cairo, he [Eichmann] summoned a Jew from Jerusalem, one Fiebl Folkes. A report from Eichmann wrote of his trip and the record of his interrogation by the Israeli police decades later indicate[s] that Folkes was a member of the Haganah--the clandestine Jewish defense force--and a Nazi agent. On one occasion he even met with Eichmann in Berlin. The Nazis paid him for his information, mostly rather general political and economic evaluations. Among other things, Eichmann quoted Folkes to the effect that Zionist leaders were pleased by the persecution of German Jewry, since it would encourage immigration to Palestine." (p.
30)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:20 PM on 05/24/2008

Why are these valid quotes not being allowed to be posted? What blog policies are being violated?

In June of 1895, the first entry into his new journal on Zionism, Theodor Hertzl wrote:
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"In Paris, as I have said, I achieved a freer attitude toward anti-Semitism, which I now began to understand historically and to pardon. Above all, I recognized the emptiness and futility of trying to 'combat' anti-Semitism."
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From Tom Segev, "The Seventh Million: Israelis and the Holocaust" Hill and Wang, NY, 1993

"Traveling on to Cairo, he [Eichmann] summoned a Jew from Jerusalem, one Fiebl Folkes. A report from Eichmann wrote of his trip and the record of his interrogation by the Israeli police decades later indicate[s] that Folkes was a member of the Haganah--the clandestine Jewish defense force--and a Nazi agent. On one occasion he even met with Eichmann in Berlin. The Nazis paid him for his information, mostly rather general political and economic evaluations. Among other things, Eichmann quoted Folkes to the effect that Zionist leaders were pleased by the persecution of German Jewry, since it would encourage immigration to Palestine." (p. 30)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:04 PM on 05/24/2008

One bad apple does not a conspiracy make. Also, let's remember that even if Folkes - who doesn't seem to represent the Zionist movement - was in favor of persecution of Jews, he probably didn't imagine the forms that persecution took. It was only late in the war that allied leaders learned what was happening, and only after the war that it became common knowledge.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:12 PM on 05/25/2008
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There are some like Hagee, who are going to be in for a rude awakening. It will purge, purify and refine them. In Jeremiah 23 it does say "that wrath will go forth and burst upon the head of the wicky...in the latter days you will clearly understand it." That wrath will purify their minds. In Jer. 23 the prophets of Jerusalem, from who pollution has been spread out throughout the land, is are the leaders of the far right themselves. Jer.23:33-40 says clearly do not listen to what those prophets are saying for they have polluted the words of god. For each man's own words will become the oracle.-that is the Liberty that the Patriots of old did dream of.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:24 PM on 05/23/2008

Part 1 - The Israelis and the Palestinians are both Semitic peoples. They carry the exact same DNA. They also carry each others blood. Does that mean anything? Israel has set up an apartheid type of segregation and people can not move around in freedom. It is exactly what went on for 150+ years in South Africa. That is why the white South Africans were so terrified to release Mandela. He was elected President almost immediately and everything changed, although the Africans are still living in horrific poverty. Aids infection is the second hightest in Africa, and medicine is in short supply for the poor. The big difference is the white South Africans are not building a stupid wall, and they are not cutting off access to Israel so the Palistinians can't go to work and feed their families, go to doctors, and their children can't go to school. This atrocious policy is exactly what brings out the fanatics who cross over and bomb the smithereens out of grocery stores, discos, etc. This is exactly why the Arabic countries hate our policies toward Israel.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:45 PM on 05/23/2008

1. Israel let in Arafat and his posse and began in earnest negotiations with Arafat and Slinton.
2. Arafat answered by a terrorist campaign in a idiotically misguided effort to get better terms on a deal.
3. Palestinians and Israelis are suffering the results of that terrorist campaign to this day.

Background:

Major cause of Palestinian suffering--- their astounding knack for electing the worst leadership possible. From Mufti of Jerusalem to Arafat to Hamas and Abbas.

Arabs in Palestine backs the wrong horse EVERY time: supported Ottoman in WWI, Supported Hitler in WW2, Supported Hussein. Every step of the way there was a price to pay for that.

Palestinians are feared and despised all over Middle East, especially in large groups ( the empty rhetoric notwithstanding).

Palestinians are suffering much greater discrimination in Lebanon, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia than in West Bank or Gaza.

In the history of Palestinian movement their leadership never, EVER concluded an agreement with ANYONE, Arab or Jew which they faithfully carried out.

Lebanon ( usurped land); Jordan ( attempted coup d;etat against the king); Gulf States (actively supported Hussein) Europe or U.S. ( broke every agreement ever reached, committed acts of terrorism).

Nice people, terrible leadership.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:31 PM on 05/24/2008

You make some cogent points. When the English left Palestine, there were thousands of Jewish people running back to their ancient home. This was the only place for them to go to escape the Nazi ovens. Do you remember the boat full of Jewish people that sailed for more than 2 months, desperately trying to find a country to take them and save them, and they were sent back to die in Germany? The Israelis began their systematic campaign of removing the Arabs from their homes. This sent the Palistinians on a quest for a new home, but most ended up in those horrible refugee camps, or Lebanon, and this began to breed the Arafats of the world. Both have elected horrible leadership, and both have created systematic terror against each other. Israel may not have suicide bombers but why would they need them? The US has armed them to the teeth. You are right, no country in ME wants them, but can you blame them? The Israelis decide they don't want to keep parts of the latest treaty, and the Palistinians use suicide bombers. Now after Bush forced elections down their throat, Hamas is in control. The US has made a complete mess out of this peace process. All it would take is the countries of the ME to sit down and solve this crisis, or the cycle will continue forever.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:13 PM on 05/25/2008
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You will never get a straight answer from Hagee. He is not a religious person, he is a business man looking for power and money.

Remember when he declared that God sent hurricane Katrina to punish New Orleans? I sent an email to his ministry as a former resident of Homestead asking what God said we did wrong to justify hurricane Andrew. I also asked, for general information, why God was punishing Oklahoma with tornados and Myanmar with a cyclone. What did they do wrong?

The answer I received was a copy of a letter they sent to the Catholic Church apologizing about some comment totally unrelated to my question. I restated and sent again. No reply yet. Perhaps he lost God's cell phone number and can't get an update on those other disasters.

The fact that Hagee openly courts politicians ( agents of the devil ) says all you need to know about the likes of Hagee. Beware of preachers and politics.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:21 PM on 05/23/2008

Why did you bother? Hagee made it quite clear that God was punishing them for their upcoming gay pride parade. What could be more reasonable? That's also why God just squashed 50,000 people in Sichuan province, China and drowned 100,000 in Burma. Gotta love that Old Testament God.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:01 PM on 05/23/2008

Hagee's god also has crappy aim. If New Orleans was being punished for moral turpitude, you'd think the French Quarter might have been hit and the Lower 9th Ward spared, instead of vice versa. "I'll show the sinners... I'll hurt a whole bunch of poor minorities NEARBY."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:28 PM on 05/23/2008

You would think an all powerful god would be capable of a more surgical strike.
Killed over a thousand people in NewOrleans because other people were allegedly planning a parade. Towns that regularly have gay pride parades get off scot free. God obeys Robertson and shifts a hurricane away from Robertson but dumps it on other people, I bet a lot of them were as good and as Christian as Robertson who is neither.
God caused 9-11 because of feminists and homosexuals. He didn't kill the homosexuals and feminists he went off and killed a whole lot of people who were neither. Seems like god has bad aim to me.
Makes you wonder??

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:55 PM on 05/25/2008

Suggesting Hagee lost God's cell phone number is indeed a sin. I am sure Hagee has it right in his breast pocket. Hagee may not know what sins caused all the different hurricanes. All he knows is that global warming had nothing to do with it. Hagee's theology is much more political than biblical in any some of the word. These evangelical's are a strange mixture of angry, apocalyptic rhetoric and single-mindedness.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:49 PM on 05/23/2008

Good for you! Any little thing that can prick this fat cat's balloon is good!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:18 PM on 05/23/2008

Hagee and his followers are crazy.. The best thing to do is contain them so they can't do any harm to themselves or others. These crazy preachers got started because people wanted somebody to guarantee them life after death, so these preachers spin their stories and go into LaLa Land, and pretty soon they're believing their own stories.These preachers live a very fancy life with God's money, while thir parishoners struggle to survive. They usually don't harm anyone else except to pollute the air with all that noise, but sometimes they decide to kill gays or nurses and doctors who work in pro-choice clinics. I call them "born again bombers" All we can do is go about our lives with love and compassion, and hope that they will eventually evolve into people who seek their own truths,and a higher purpose.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:21 AM on 05/24/2008

It's not God's money, it's taxpayers money. They are tax exempt, subsized while getting government services, like TV. They are subsidized by the government for being agents of Satan, the Anti-Christ which does not mean against Christ but pretending to be Christ, for spreading hate by the Harlot Biblical ministers with their Biblical Fornications.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:58 AM on 05/25/2008

Lieberman as McCain's Sof Defense. That would really mean protecting Israel's right to continue it's terror on the ME for McCain's potential 100 yr occupation.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:18 PM on 05/23/2008

Lieberman is not qualified to be Sec of Defense. But you must be out of your mind or totally blind to reality.
Israel has never used sucide bombers as weapons, including children and women.
Israel has never shot unprovoked missiles at any community or population in the ME.
Israel has never denied any of it's neighbors their right to exist.
Israel has never made it's goal the extermination of any of it's neighbors in the ME
Israel has never used innocent people as human shields in their military conflicts.
Israel has never turned down an offer of peace negotiations.
Israel has never forced their own people to accept political leadership at gunpoint.
Israel is not Hamas, Hezbollah, the Egyptian Brotherhood, or Al Qaeda, who all hate the U.S and Israel, and are responsible for continuing terror and human atrocities in the ME.

Please educate yourself.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:47 PM on 05/23/2008

Education tells me

Israel has killed thousands of innocent civilians
Israel has engaged in collective punishment in violation of human rights
Israel has refused sign United Nations Human Rights Agreements
Israel has repeatedly denied basic quality of life to the people its occupying
Israel has discriminated against non Jewish Israelis denying them access to land
Israel has bull dozed houses by the dozen as an act of collective punshment
Israel has engaged in extra judicial killing by way of Air to Ground missles from Aircraft
Israel has imprisioned thousands without trial
Israel has built a giant aparitied wall to isolate non jewish ethnic groups
Israel has invaded its neigbhors at the slightest provocation
Israel has engaged in ethnic cleansing
Israel has ...... This list goes on

Israel is an awful violator of human rights, defending Israel's actions is like defending apartied in South Africa. Breeding of hate through violence against the Palistinians serves no cause. Israel's actions offend the world disgrace America and breed terrorism. Right wing religious extremist deny the humanity of of Arabs and Muslims to serve their political agenda. Hagee is just one example of such persons.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:19 PM on 05/23/2008

I'm not going to pick apart your points one by one, but anyone fully educated about the conflict knows there's plenty of blame to go around (including in the U.S.), and that Israel, like most nations, is imperfect. And like many nations in the region, it too has its own minority of violent religious zealots, some of whom are guilty of killing unarmed civilians, who have disproportionate political power.

The bottom line is that Israel holds all the cards, with unconditional U.S. support and complete control of all territory, borders, infrastructure, resources, and trade. What more could it ask for? What use is all of this leverage if it's not willing to use it to secure peace? Israel intentionally sought and acheived near-total power in the occupied terrorities with the goal of its own security. Now that it has that, as well as tremendous economic prosperity, it also bears the greater burden of bringing about peace. As in the U.S. and Europe, with privilege, comes responsibility. Just because it is challenging is no reason to shirk it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:09 PM on 05/23/2008

Lieberman is a Zionist 1st and an American 2nd. He's Israels Senator.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:00 AM on 05/25/2008
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