New Mexico Young Republicans Work To Change The Party

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The voters of southern New Mexico -- I would like to say simply "New Mexicans," but that doesn't sound right in our immigration-fraught climate -- are hungry to meet the presidential candidates. "We matter, even if we are small-town America," Susana Martinez, the local district attorney, says as she introduces John McCain Wednesday. Her fellow citizens are frustrated that by the end of summer 2008 Senators McCain and Obama have held only small and tightly-controlled events in their state. May 26, Memorial Day, Obama hosted an invitation-only town hall meeting with carefully-picked Democratic veterans at a ranching museum in Las Cruces, and, according even to the non-partisan attendees at the McCain town hall meeting in Las Cruces August 20, that decision was a mistake. New Mexico is home to many veterans, and many of those many felt shut out of the Obama event. Las Cruces is still smarting three months later. (Obama held a town hall meeting two hundred miles north in Albuquerque on August 19.)

2008-06-03-otb_onthetrail_v2.jpgSimilarly, if not quite as angrily, the locals complained that they had notice of the McCain event only the day before in the Las Cruces Sun-News, and by then the 500 tickets were gone. Aaron Henry Diaz, at age 21 already a comer in Dona Ana County Republican circles, had 250 of those tickets to distribute. He gave them to a younger group, including many students at New Mexico State University, where the McCain town hall was held. "See," he tells me proudly, "the event at Las Cruces is diverse." Without having to say more, he knows that I know that he means in comparison to the town hall meeting in Albuquerque July 15, which like most of the McCain events I've attended skewed AARP. Diaz and I first met in Albuquerque, and he has invited me back to Dona Ana County to talk with some Young Republicans here.

Diaz points to the rows of young people sitting on the stage in the Pan Am Center at New Mexico State. "I bet most of them are registered Democrats," he says by way of launching into an explanation of the peculiarities of New Mexico politics. Being a Democrat is part of the cultural identity in this part of the Southwest, particularly for Hispanics. "But they won't vote Democrat," Diaz explains. Identifying Democratic but voting Republican is a way of life in southern New Mexico. Before McCain arrives, Diaz introduces me to his grandfather, a retired sheriff of the county, a self-described Blue Dog Democrat who several years ago told Aaron Henry, when he came of age, to join the Republican Party because there's the future for political activists interested in issues of fiscal restraint.

That future would seem to wait on the far horizon, as Aaron Henry and his Young Republican friends agree when we talk after the town hall meeting. Las Cruces has been a good day for McCain, who seems buoyed and focused, perhaps because of his success with Rick Warren at the Saddleback Church civil forum on faith and politics Saturday night. McCain works the Saddleback moment into his summer-long disappointment that Obama has not joined him in these town hall meetings. "I'm sorry that Senator Obama is not here with me today. I asked a long time ago for Senator Obama to come, to come to town hall meetings with me. A little bit of history: Barry Goldwater and Jack Kennedy had agreed to fly around the country to hold town hall meetings all over America. Unfortunately, the tragedy of Dallas intervened. But that's what it's supposed to be about. Not the sound bites, the various attack ads and all the stuff which seems to go on which I don't think inform the American people very well. Saturday night I had the opportunity at least to respond to the same questions that Senator Obama had, and I think the American people have made a judgment on that."

This is classic McCain 2008 -- the expression of genuine regret that Senator Obama refused the joint town hall meetings coupled with a sense of detachment from "all the stuff that goes on" back at headquarters in Virginia. Whatever his own performance, whoever the audience -- and in Las Cruces McCain gets two confrontational questions, one on choosing a vice president who is pro-life and one on care at the local VA hospital -- McCain always seems to be having a grand time on the campaign trail, as if he were enjoying a perpetual recess from the real, distasteful work on his behalf happening somewhere else.

When McCain has finished his hour in Las Cruces, Aaron Henry Diaz rounds up the Young Republicans as he hails and is hailed by everybody who is anybody in the county. Eventually Diaz, who attends Loyola in Chicago, and five other students at New Mexico State gather. Although all will vote for McCain in November, they say little specifically about him. Their focus is on the Republican Party -- why they've joined when so many of their peers are for Obama, and where they see the future of the party.

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Diaz begins by talking about his own family. "We were a legacy Democrat family," he says. "We established the Democratic Party right after Territory days, right after the Civil War. That's my New Mexico lineage. They've been Democrats, elected Democrats, and of course as a youngster I was supporting Democrats." He mentions the grandfather I've met earlier. "He was a conservative Blue Dog southern Democrat, and that's how he has remained voting. All of us who have Democratic relatives" -- he points to the other students -- "they are conservative as well. Fiscally conservative. Security conservative. Socially conservative. But I flirted with it [liberalism]. What changed me, and I think also my peers here, was the conservative movement epitomized in the feeling after 9/11. I think that really had an impact on our generation. And I think also for liberals, as well. It either emboldened them or it converted them. And I think it did the same with us."

Justin, a senior in pre-med biology, agrees about the influence of 9/11 on their generation. One of the effects he sees is "a big shift from idealism to realism," in that especially now post-9/11 the Republican Party must acknowledge a few truths.

Dax, who works for the RNC Victory Fund, goes further. "We've lost our focus. Evangelicals have alienated a lot of people who would like to vote Republican but see us as extremists." Dax, a Catholic, grew up in politics, going out on campaign drives with his dad from an early age.

"Neo-conservatism is dead," Diaz says. "We're moving away from neo-conservatism. We're moving away from Evangelicalism. And I think it's necessary in order to be a successful party. We can't be talking about abortion and gay rights all the damn time. They're gonna alienate conservative voters who don't actually want to hear any of that. It's about fiscal responsibility, national security and I think the third most important thing is education. Those are the three things that the Republican Party is moving towards, that we are focusing on. Bringing private components to help with public school systems has been proven in Utah and Nevada to be overwhelmingly successful."

I ask where this new or renewed party is going to find its base. "I think you're looking at it right here," Diaz says. "Two Hispanics." He points to Dax and Justin. "The 9/11 Generation, where national security is a huge component to our politics."

Justin says that in fact he is French and Italian. "Latin! They're our cousins!" Dax says. Everybody laughs, including Jo Marie, who like many of the young New Mexico Republicans comes from a ranching family, and Julia, a freshman who works for Congressman Steve Pearce. The young women, who don't say much, are content to listen to Dax.

"The Republicans are having an identity crisis with Hispanics," Dax says. "It's kind of a cultural thing, because if you're a Hispanic, you're going to join the Democratic Party, even though they're pro-choice, even though they're supporting all these ideals not necessarily tied to them. Hispanics rightfully should be Republicans -- they just don't know it."

"We're a group that's going to be fought for in the next eight years," Diaz adds. "Hispanics have the opportunity to be the biggest minority component for the Republican Party. That's the biggest place it's going to start, in the familia, right there. It's the conversation within the family unit. Once there's young conservatives who are standing up, and are Hispanic, then it's okay to be Republican. We have to be a more inclusive party. I concede that. The Republican Party has not always been inclusive. This group here" -- again he points to his fellow students -- is going to break that down."

One way Dax and Diaz intend to do that is through the conservative blog they are starting. Aaron Henry is a fan of Politico, so he is calling the blog New Mexico Politico. Dax and he have ambitious plans. "I want Democrats blogging on our site, too," he says. "I'm going to tell them that if they want conservatives to listen to their arguments, they have to present them on a conservative site, as well. I want a real conversation going."

The students bemoan the fact that Democratic bloggers have a head start. "Democrats tend to be -- I hate to use the word -- more hip and in tune with the use of technology," Justin says. "Republicans are more traditional and don't get the information out there the same way to their constituents. I think that's a definite barrier that has to be crossed. As a general rule of thumb, the Democratic candidate here [in New Mexico] has a flashier web site, and the Republicans are lacking. Look at our blogs on the internet. But you're not going to see it [change] until we start it."

"When you have one of the founders of Facebook working for Obama's web site, he has a slight advantage in networking," Dax says.

"And organized outreach -- we don't have it -- we're not there yet," Diaz says. "Young leadership has recognized that. If the older leadership doesn't see it in this election, they'll see it in the next." He wants to reach out to the young business community. He wants the New Mexico Republican Party to be pro-business, not just Evangelical.

Dax agrees, adding, "with the ag college here -- that's how the university was founded, agriculture -- there should be more Young Republicans."

I ask about the down ballot races in New Mexico, where four of five congressional seats are open, where Steve Pearce is locked in a fierce battle for Pete Domenici's Senate seat with Democratic challenger Tom Udall. "I don't think down ballot races are going to do as well as the presidential race," Diaz says. "Why? Because people are realizing the old Republican game plan is not working anymore. I think there's going to be a disconnect in New Mexico. I'm not going to say who wins or who loses, but it's going to be very close. You're going to have the old Republicans running against a Democrat, in a year for change. I think McCain's race is distinctly separate from everything else." He has said earlier that in southern New Mexico people don't vote the straight party ticket. "People will vote party ticket in Roswell, but not here. Sometimes change has to happen." This seems to be his way of saying that Pearce, who is ten points down to Udall but gaining, could lose the Senate race.

Justin sees the same outcome. "It's going to be difficult on the down ticket. Republicans don't want to change or compromise their values."

Diaz says Republicans need to have more of an open mind. "The Republicans up north are killing us down here on immigration." Until the Republican Party changes its views on immigration, Diaz observes, elections are going to be lost. But on the day when the party wakes up to a few hard truths, when realism wins out over idealism, Aaron Henry Diaz and his fellow Young Republicans will be ready to move.

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The voters of southern New Mexico -- I would like to say simply "New Mexicans," but that doesn't sound right in our immigration-fraught climate -- are hungry to meet the presidential candidates. "We m...
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- ched See Profile I'm a Fan of ched permalink

These less than fully formed young men may be right that old-style conservative ideals have more in common with traditional hispanic family values than with 21st century progressive liberal thinking. Only problem is that the party which claims to be the home of those values - the republiks - want nothing to do with these guys, and would just as soon see their entire families deported. It's one thing to want to fit in so badly that you're willing to compromise your ideals to do so; but to identify with those who hate you and would rather you weren't here is just twisted.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:23 PM on 08/25/2008
- CryptoMan See Profile I'm a Fan of CryptoMan permalink

As a 30 year Barry Goldwater real conservative, there is one and only one way remaining to "fix" the existing brain-dead, principally and ideally-bankrupt and corrupt Republican Party: Let it die a painful and overdue death, then resurrect it with real Republicans not Neocon Chickenhawks, Evangelistas and the Status Quo that infests it now. This is not the Republican Party that any self-respecting real Republican can inhabit any longer.

Dax and Diaz and other young people along that line are painfully naive and woefully unaware of the history that has lead the Party to this nadir. John McCain is the death rattle of the current party, whether he wins or loses.

The totally ignorant, economic and national defense-challenged liberal Democrats will have almost free-rein while the remaining real Republicans rebuild a Party to once again put the childish and cartoonish, feel-good, liberal Democrat view of the world back in the toy box.

However, I blame no one but the aforementioned fake, corrupt Republicans and the sadly small number of real remaining Republicans not willing to do the heavy lifting to toss those bastards out on their ass. I didn't see them in the caucuses, pre-primaries, primaries or county convention in the necessary numbers to smack them down. What a shame it has to come to this.

Sometimes, the only effective way left to fix a mistake is to allow it to proceed to its own destructive end. I fear for my grandchildren.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:35 PM on 08/25/2008
- walktothesea See Profile I'm a Fan of walktothesea permalink

Young Republicans=contradiction in terms

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:23 PM on 08/24/2008
- isis See Profile I'm a Fan of isis permalink

If one of the founders of Facebook is working for Obama's web site then why is there no Facebook link on Huff-Po? And yes he is right that Democrats are more hip an do not need constant bail outs to keep their old school businesses a float. Most innovative people or liberal or to the left moderates. Conservatives rule with fear, not innovation.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:55 AM on 08/24/2008
- isis See Profile I'm a Fan of isis permalink

A pre-med is going to be republican because he wants to keep the cash rolling in, not our of any sense of insight or intelligence. I have a friend who interviewed at a medical school in the south. They had a fit because she had studied in Europe (socialized medicine-the horror!) and they asked her if she supported the horrible Hillary Clinton. What is that saying "conservatism is moral justification for being selfish" or something like that? Don't think that the AMA has our health in mind. Pocketbooks come first. And it starts before they even hit medical school.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:28 AM on 08/24/2008
- jferrari See Profile I'm a Fan of jferrari permalink

"A pre-med is going to be republican because he wants to keep the cash rolling in, not our of any sense of insight or intelligence."

That might be the single most ignorant statement I have come across throughout this entire attempt at rational discussion.

Let me introduce myself. I am Justin. The Justin that happened to be interviewed. My reasons for wanting to become a doctor down the road stretch far beyond the scope of self-interest and wanting to make money, and it's insulting that you would assume otherwise.

To assert that republicans are greedy and selfish - to say that our primary goals lie in the accumulation of wealth and materialism - is absolutely ridiculous and off-base. That's like somebody with my leanings coming out and saying democrats are lazy and want handouts.

Go ahead and hate me for the simple fact that I'm republican, but please get your facts straight.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:58 PM on 08/26/2008
- CAPTAINSKIPPY See Profile I'm a Fan of CAPTAINSKIPPY permalink

You got it - yes, rightfully (& foolishly) Republicans, until they awaken realizing they've been had, over and over. Get over the greed & blind opportunism, it only helps a few at the top, and only hurts you. Of course, for you, it will be different (in your wildest dreams)!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:25 AM on 08/23/2008
- Mikecoatl See Profile I'm a Fan of Mikecoatl permalink

The Republicans were on the brink of snagging many Hispanics into their so-called big tent party, but the far right's obsession with the immigration issue threw away any chance they had of taking the Hispanic vote from the Democrats. Obama will win New Mexico and probably Colorado and Nevada - states that are demographically very similar to Arizona. The only states with a large Hispanic population that (should) be certain to go red are Arizona (McCain's home state) and Texas (southern roots). Pretty much any state in the region should be a natural fit for McCain, but apparently they are not.

This is because Westerners are not stupid. They know how destructive and divisive the GOP has been. And if the people in this article honestly think they are going to go into the Republican Party and change all that, then Naive is the kindest thing I can call them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:34 PM on 08/22/2008
- LightningJoe See Profile I'm a Fan of LightningJoe permalink

So, Latinos "by rights should be Republican?" they "just don't know it?"

Well, THAT's some respect for individual conscience, isn't it? I've known straights who say there's no such thing as gay. I've known gays who say the same thing about straights. We're all familiar with Religiosos who think non-believers will go to heck for having convictions counter to those of the Church (whichever church).

Most rich people in this country have forgotten that making the personality adjustments and ethical tradeoffs that let a person amass worldly wealth is also a choice. A mercenary choice that many of us can't in good conscience make. It's a choice to stop thinking about what's good for your neighbor, unless what's good for them is also good for your bank account (and a vanishingly small portion of good, that is!)

Now we see the same from a smattering of Republican Latinos, dutifully (and how appropriately!) covered by a wealthy white woman, who married her money.

Bringing this home is easy enough. Mayhill seems to put her hoped-for Latino-Republican revolution down to a phase-shift in concern after 9/11, and the perception that the Republicans had the right response to that tragedy. Well, our warlike response has certainly led to a more peaceful world, hasn't it? (that's called irony)

Where were Republicans while Dems were supporting Cesar Chavez? I'll tell you: hiring scab workers, THAT'S where! If this mindset is "good for" Latinos, I'm:

-- Queen Mary

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:24 PM on 08/22/2008
- swift_goat_pet_for_truth See Profile I'm a Fan of swift_goat_pet_for_truth permalink

"So, Latinos "by rights should be Republican?" they "just don't know it?"

Yeah.
Translation: Latinos are too stupid to know what is good for them.
This from a party whose most effective tactics are lies and fearmongering.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:52 AM on 08/23/2008
- addicted2purchase See Profile I'm a Fan of addicted2purchase permalink

As a native New Mexican I registered as a Republican when I reached voting age. During the Reagan years when Republicans gained the majority of both houses of congress I became troubled by direction that certian factions of the Republican Party seemed to be headed. So troubled that I joined the ACLU because I could see that civil liberties were coming under attack.
THE BIG LIE: "Republicans are pro business". Yes... If your a BIG muilti-national business. "Republicans are for small government." Reality check!... Government has ballooned out of control under the Republicans. The biggest lie... TAX CUTS. Yes ....but only if your are big oil or one of the fat cats. Republicans make up the loss of income by borrowing thus throwing future tax payers under the bus of staggering debt.
"Under the Bushes" is where we all will be sleeping if Republicans get another term in any office in our government. They spout the Republican mantra of old, but march to the beat of unlimited power and greed.
I am no longer a Republican. The GOP I joined has morphed into a different GOP. (GREEDY OLD PROSTITUTES) Selling out our Constitution to the Johns who are able to pay for it. Bush/Cheney have pimped out our country to highest bidder. Haliburton for Cheney and BIG OIL for Bush.
Young Hispanics need to look at the reality of what is happening now or later they may find themselves looking longingly North over that Republican Values fence.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:29 PM on 08/22/2008
- ibsteve2u See Profile I'm a Fan of ibsteve2u permalink

Dax says. "Hispanics rightfully should be Republicans -- they just don't know it."

Ya know, that is the essence of being a Republican: You have your personal goals - usually wealth accumulation - and everybody who is not helping you achieve those goals is ignorant.

(Ignorant, that is, until the aftermath of a Republican election loss, at which point the Republicans begin calling you "lazy" and talking about how you are a drain on America's economy yadda yadda yadda...)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:27 PM on 08/22/2008
- rosal See Profile I'm a Fan of rosal permalink

As a Hispanic, I never had and I never will vote Republican. I am not so brainless as to vote against my own interest, and the interest of every Hispanic. Just listening to the talking heads on cable dissing Latinos should sent every Latino to the Democrat side. Until Hispanics become aware of how the right uses them, their vote will only continue to put in power politicians that couldn't care less about their well being and that of their families.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:16 PM on 08/22/2008
- biglover See Profile I'm a Fan of biglover permalink

The republicans are very skilled at dividing and conquering. They have demonized blacks in the eyes of latinos and demonized latinos in the eyes of blacks so they have created the perfect scenario.

One of the attorneys in our office is a young Latino man who is definitely voting for Obama but tells me his father will never vote for a black man. He said this has been engrained in him since a young man.

Divide and conquer. How well it works so well that even common sense doesn't make a bit of difference.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:01 PM on 08/22/2008
- swift_goat_pet_for_truth See Profile I'm a Fan of swift_goat_pet_for_truth permalink

Well said.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:54 AM on 08/23/2008
- woodywood See Profile I'm a Fan of woodywood permalink

Fiscal Restraint ?. The Republican Party described as the Party of Fiscal Restraint ?. An Illegal Invasion of Iraq at a Tax Payer cost of 10 Billion Dollars a MONTH. I can only hope They are intelligent enough to see the Wolf in Sheep's Clothing.
The Republican Party Leaders have tallied a Multi TRILLION DOLLAR Debt on all of Us. The Goal of the "Project of the New American Century" Group that includes; Paul Wolfowitz, Richard Pearle, John Bolton, Elliot Abrahms, Douglas Feith, John Ashcroft, Jeb Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney. During the Clinton Presidential Years these Men bunkered down in D.C. to hatch a plan to Use the American Military to invade Iraq, Iran and other Oil Rich Nations to seize Their Oil Reserves, You know as stealing.
This Group also wanted to Change Our Government or what it calls, "COG" to eliminate the Constitutional Rights protecting the American People and Our Way of Governance. In short, These Men are Treasonous and are greatly responsible for the Invasion of Iraq, the Draining of Our Treasury from a Multi-Million Dollar Surplus from President Bill Clinton to a Multi-Trillion Dollar Deficit under President Dick Cheney and Minion George Bush. Their other main Goal is to remove ALL Domestic Social Programs like Social Security. They have accomplished much with Their All Star Member Dick Cheney.
Invasion of Iraq=Done. Drain The American Treasury=Done. Break and Destroy the Constitution=Mostly Done. Remove All Domestic Social Programs=Well on Their Way.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:52 PM on 08/22/2008
- Quitcherbichin See Profile I'm a Fan of Quitcherbichin permalink

"An Illegal Invasion of Iraq"

If the war in Iraq is illegal then the Democrat party is at lease as culpable as the Repubs. I did not see any Republicans holding guns to the heads of the Democrat congressional members forcing the to vote to enforce the UN mandates.

I guess what you are saying is that the Democrats were not smart enough to see that the documentation supporting the war was flawed..in other words they were DUPED! Doesn't say much for them does it?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:50 PM on 08/23/2008
- Tulka2 See Profile I'm a Fan of Tulka2 permalink

Republicans the party of fiscal restraint? Just say it and some few will always believe it. "You can fool all of the people some of the time and some of the people all of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time". The Bush administration has overseen the biggest rip-off in human history. They are pirates with no loyalty to this country.

As far as being anti-choice so that's why Hispanics should link arms with the GOP.....? I am always amazed. It's as if the anti-choice hardliners have tiny hearts that only fetuses and kittens can fit into. Too easy. Way too easy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:44 PM on 08/22/2008
- LightningJoe See Profile I'm a Fan of LightningJoe permalink

But they ARE the party of fiscal restraint, as long as it's YOUR fiscal restraint that's at issue. But if the restraint in question involves NOT selling off government assets to unreliable and secretive profit interests, well then that's not fiscal restraint at all!

Conservative (in the REAL sense!) policy has been redefined by the Neo's as bloated government. Neo-Cons want private citizens to have no common cause (most especially any common economic cause) with each other, because such "collusion of interests" is "anti-competitive." In this context, that's a code-word for no cracks in the market that would let profit interests pry you away from your wherewithal, and funnel it into their own pockets.

Government, acting in people's interests, represents the last frontier that can still be efficiently stripped of resources. The colonizers have run out of third-world countries in which to make their "killings" and there's only one resource left for them. Neo-Cons are all about selling government functions for private profit. If you LIKE such an idea, you are a Neo-Con, whatever you would prefer to be known as.

Such plain sense has been labeled "socialist" by the Neo-Cons -- who are all about labels, as the most efficient way to bias people who don't think much. But now their brand has suffered (small wonder!), and they're trying to put some air between themselves and the label Neo-Con.

Good luck, it's still the same inverted-funnel-of-wealth.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:51 PM on 08/22/2008
- WorkingClass See Profile I'm a Fan of WorkingClass permalink

The Republican party is a felon. Republicans are scum. Its not going to change.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:09 PM on 08/22/2008
- TScheisskopf See Profile I'm a Fan of TScheisskopf permalink

Note to young Mr. Diaz:

I also grew up in a moderate Republican family. Eisenhower Republicans all. Let me leave you with this:

My mother, before she passed on, said this to me "I have been a Republican all my life, a Southern Republican, from when that stood for a lot of good things. Now, I would not vote for a Republican running for dogcatcher. I look at what they have done to this country and I wish I had never had you and your brother. I didn't want you to live in a country like this."

I would advocate for you to change your magical thinking about the Republican Party. Back in the early 90's, their die was cast when they tasked Helen Chenoweth to reach out to the militia movement and other areas of the most radical of the radical right. They are now nativist, white-exceptionalist and are infested at their core with people who measure human worth on wealth attained and the amount of melanin in someone's skin. They are the very definition of plutocrats. You, like your brothers and sisters in the Log Cabin Republicans, are playing a fool's game. It will be, easily, one to two generations before you get a fair shake in your party of choice. If ever.

Eschew futility.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:52 AM on 08/22/2008
- swift_goat_pet_for_truth See Profile I'm a Fan of swift_goat_pet_for_truth permalink

"Eschew futility"

This could be a great bumper sticker.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:57 AM on 08/23/2008
- bruja See Profile I'm a Fan of bruja permalink

Totally agree with your comment. These young folks must be part of the "me,myself and I" group. They don't seem to understand that the only folks the GOP cares about are the likes of Bush, Cheney, McCain and corporate miilionaires. Guess they want to see if they can somehow get on the gravy train.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:54 PM on 08/22/2008
- way out left in san francisco See Profile I'm a Fan of way out left in san francisco permalink

Bravo! These young Hispanics are blind opportunists - very similar to the gay Log Cabin Republicans. They allow themselves to be manipulated by a party that at its core hates them but will use them to stay in office. For some the lure is greed which puts a blind eye on how they are voting against their own best interests. For the rest it is sheer stupidity and racism. In a way similar to those who supported the Senator from New York yet repudiate O even though his positions on social issues would be to their benefit and the greater good of the nation.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:48 PM on 08/22/2008
- lavisiter See Profile I'm a Fan of lavisiter permalink

As for the "gay" Log Cabin Republicans - I've also wondered how (especially gay men) could turn their heads and continue their loyalty to a party who simultaneously turns their hypocritical backs on these supporters while perpetuating the kind of hated against all homosexuals that is as debilitating as racism or perhaps more so -it is more insidious! But I also respect everyone's right to CHOOSE! - AFTERALL, this is a DEMOCRACY! ALL minorities have to grapple with the idea of whether to make attempts at being a part of the mainstream for the purpose of making measurable gains or face the possibility of remaining estranged and powerless! That is unless they've got the strength and creativity to creatively find alternative power! Why else do you think this society is now seeing the momentum of same sex marriage - and all despite the fact that the heterosexual model of marriage is a failure in this country. And unless I'm mistaken isn't Barack Obama one of those guilty of trying to join the mainstream as disgusting as that joining might seem at times! It's called the American DREAM! Obama has CHANGED on so many issues in order to JOIN the mainstream - one wouldn't have ANY CLUE what to expect of him anymore?

I completely REJECT your typically (Obama supporter