Obama Exclusive (Audio): On V.P And Foreign Policy, Courting the Working Class, and Hard-Pressed Pennsylvanians

Posted April 11, 2008 | 08:20 PM (EST)



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Here is the full audio from Senator Barack Obama's fundraiser hosted at a home in Pacific Heights in San Francisco on Sunday, April 6, 2008. Sheila Jackson Lee makes the introduction.

Some highlights - Obama responds to Krugman toward the end of the audio (46:20); Obama discloses his trip to Pakistan (40:17); Obama discusses fundraising successes (15 min); Obama discusses energy, fuel efficient cars (18 min); "When people tell me they've all stressed about racial discord, well, you know, try slavery for a while." (26:02).


Some of the quotes from this speech include:

"I would like somebody who knows about a bunch of stuff that I'm not as expert on. I think a lot of people assume that might be some sort of military thing to make me look more Commander-in-Chief-like. Ironically, this is an area--foreign policy is the area where I am probably most confident that I know more and understand the world better than Senator Clinton or Senator McCain."
"It's ironic because this is supposedly the place where experience is most needed to be Commander-in-Chief. Experience in Washington is not knowledge of the world. This I know. When Senator Clinton brags 'I've met leaders from eighty countries'--I know what those trips are like! I've been on them. You go from the airport to the embassy. There's a group of children who do native dance. You meet with the CIA station chief and the embassy and they give you a briefing. You go take a tour of a plant that [with] the assistance of USAID has started something. And then--you go."
"You do that in eighty countries--you don't know those eighty countries. So when I speak about having lived in Indonesia for four years, having family that is impoverished in small villages in Africa--knowing the leaders is not important--what I know is the people. . . ."
"I traveled to Pakistan when I was in college--I knew what Sunni and Shia was [sic] before I joined the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. . . ."
"Nobody is entirely prepared for being Commander-in-Chief. The question is when the 3 AM phone call comes do you have somebody who has the judgment, the temperament to ask the right questions, to weigh the costs and benefits of military action, who insists on good intelligence, who is not going to be swayed by the short-term politics. By most criteria, I've passed those tests and my two opponents have not."
"People are misunderstanding the way the demographics in this contest are broken up the way they are. Because everybody just ascribes it to white working class don't want to vote for the black guy. There were intimations of this in an article in the Sunday New York Times today--kind of implies it's sort of a race thing. That's not what it is."
"You go into some of these small towns in Pennsylvania, and like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing's replaced them. And they fell through the Clinton Administration, and the Bush Administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna regenerate and they have not. And it's not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."

I reported on parts of his speech in "Obama: No Need For Foreign Policy Help From V.P." (4/7/08), "Obama Courts Working Class Through 'Future Generations''" (4/10/08), and "Obama: No Surprise That Hard-Pressed Pennsylvanians Turn Bitter" (4/11/08).


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Mayhill Fowler is NOT an Obama supporter. She's a plant. She was probably sent to hang around to play "gotcha" in case Obama said anything Clinton could use. This bitter thing was the best she could do. (pretty lame, and ineffective)

-Fowler pretended to be a "donor" to sneak into a private function which was off the record
-Previously, Fowler gave hundreds of dollars to Fred Thompson, a republican whose policies are diametrically opposed to Obamas. Very suspicious.
-Fowler's husband is a weallthy energy/realestate guy who supports McCain
-Fowler attended Wesley with Hillary
-Fowler's Junehill blog was anti-Obama and pro-Clinton
-Fowler's column was smearing Obama week after week: "cocky" "flirting", moneygrubbing, etc. just for doing the typical politicking.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 08:21 PM on 04/16/2008

hey everyone....

This is not the "full" conversation..just pasted excerpts......want the full story....see a David Coleman article posted here on April 14th. He tells the REAL story..see he was THERE too!!!!


Mayhill Folwer......you are on the side of Hillary...it truely shows

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 12:43 PM on 04/16/2008

Obama was introduced by Barbara Lee, not Sheila Jackson-Lee as Ms. Fowler states. Barbara Lee is a congresswoman in California, Sheila Jackson Lee is a congresswoman in Texas and a Clinton supporter. They are, however, both African American women, so she got that part right. Also, since Ms. Fowler lives in Oakland, Barbara Lee is actually her representative in Congress. OK, maybe she got the names mixed up, maybe she didn't vote, maybe she doesn't know who her representative is. But then again, she's not a "real" political reporter, or your average "real" Obama supporter, she's a "citizen journalist".

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 03:55 PM on 04/15/2008

I agree! I thought, while reading Ms. Fowler's lead-in into her story that she couldn't have meant Sheila Jackson Lee. I know she is for Hillary and wondered what she was doing in California introducing Obama for a fundraiser. (That should have opened the media's eyes then and let them know that the person's journalism is questionable). Anybody and start and stop taping a person's conversation and make it seem like whatever they want. That's why that person should not have been allowed to post that garbage!

As a blessing, most of the voters in every state know Senator Obama and ignored that article and snipet of his actual words. What makes me mad is that MSNBC & CNN spent 4 days talking about that crap! They jump onto any negative bandwagon about Obama and ride it until everyone is sick and tired of it. They think if they spin it enough, it will force us to believe that it is true.

Unfortunately, Huffingtonpost.com is getting the credit and blame for running the article and tape first, and I think Huffingtonpost is a wonderful form of information. They need to check olther sources before publishing. I hope they didn't pay Ms. Fowler for the hatchet job. I hate for them to fall the way of FOX, MSNBC and CNN.

I am so glad Mr. Coleman stepped forward and wish he would go on MSNBC and CNN (FOX doesnt matter) and make these statements and tell the full truth.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 06:43 PM on 04/16/2008

Thanks a million for posting something that may bring that good man down. Hope you enjoy having John McCain as your next president. The witch Hillary has no chance against McCain.

SHAME, SHAME, SHAME upon you for generations to come.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:05 AM on 04/15/2008

I agree--perhaps you could have given a moment's thought to the impact of this posting. You had to know this had the potential of derailing Obama. Too bad you aren't a McCain supporter.
MORE SHAME--You brought our best hope down.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:35 PM on 04/15/2008

Shame, shame is the truth.
Something is wrong with a person who first of all, would betray a confidence (the affair was supposed to be private, and so 'off the record'), and do intentional damage to a cause she is supposed to believe in. No person is flawless, and so Obama, like all of us, must assume the protection of friends and persons of like mind. Ms Fowler is a Judas, an Iago, a betrayer of conscience and a higher cause. Shame on you for pretending to be his supporter. I wonder how you treat your friends. Very sad what you have done.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:16 PM on 04/15/2008

Actually Fowler might not be that upset if McCain won. Check out this info about her husband:

As the wife of attorney James C. Fowler (a UCSB undergrad; UC Berkley J.D. circa 1968), a Mc Cain supporter and boat lover who owns a 43 foot yacht via some kind of revokable trust he established, and who is a partner with the prestigious firm Bingham & McClutchen, which list's Mehran's firm as a client on it's website, specializes in real estate law, does work in the energy sector, and who's clients also ocassionaly include people who buy military bases that have been closed, Mayhill Fowler inhabits that rarified air of the truly rich and truly elite. Evidently the irony was lost on this Wesley Girl, who married so well, when she wrote her article disparaging Barack Obama as an "elitist".

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 08:23 PM on 04/16/2008

Mayhill Fowler, two comments:
First, I do not believe that you support Obama. If you did than you would not have posted this land mine. I had to dig throughout this website to get the Total Statement in Context and I do Agree with what he is saying. I cannot believe that you thought that the News Media would not Report this in a Positive Way. You should have known that they would Make it as Negative as Possible, select only the words that would convey the most Negative Image possible in an effort to Sway Voters Opinion to Hillary.
Secondly, Hillary Clinton and John McCain who are Multi-Millionaires cannot relate to us Ordinary People who are "BITTER" about losing our Jobs to on-shore, off-shore and Near-shore Outsourcing; Losing our Homes; Losing the ability to support our families; and losing the ability for us to have a Healthy Economy where our dollar has Buying Power.
We need HELP fixing this REAL problem in Upstate NY and throughout the Country. Obama is not an "Elitist". Obama is the poorest Elitist that I know, i.e., Hillary with her $100+ millions household income and McCain with his Multi-millions. They are the True Elitist . This is why they are trying to point to Obama so that you do see who they Really are.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 06:46 AM on 04/15/2008

Living in Rochester NY/upstate NY where we are Losing Jobs and Homes to Hillary Clinton's "Best Sourcing" Strategy. I totally agree with Obama stated in total Context vs the Negative Slant and SPIN that Hillaryhas put on it. He was trying to explain that it was Not Race that was causing Voters to Not Vote for him But Failed Adminstration under Clinton and the Bush(s) i.e., over 25 years of Failed Campaign Promises to restore Jobs and rebuild the Industry in various areas of Pennsylvania.
Hillary promised 200,000+ jobs as each of her Campaign Promises and Have Failed to Delivered. Instead of Focusing on Revitalizing Upstate as she promised, she has been too busy Positioning herself to Campaign for President. She is Not concern with this issue.
Upstate New Yorkers are Bitter and Antipathy against Outsourcing and Non-US Citizens who use H1 Visas to bring low cost workers to America where they live and take Jobs from Degreed Highly Qualified US Citizens. Upstate NY has lost Manufacturing, IT, Administrative and caller center jobs to Canada-Asia Pacific Realm, India, Mexico and other countries. Upstate New Yorkers are "Bitter", Bitter, Bitter....
Outsoucing Destroys families by losing jobs, homes and the ability to support your Families. Why Should Americans have to be the ones without JOBS... Of course, Hillary with her $100m dollar household income has demonstrated to Upstate NY that she Does not Care or Cannot Relate to our Plight.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 06:08 AM on 04/15/2008

{{ If you don't like the mortgage industry's practices, then read their documents before you sign them, don't buy more house than you can afford, and don't take out loans that you can't honor.}}

Now this is something I can agree with.
____________________________________________________________

Tsk Tsk

If you feel that bad then go over and help them. But your assumption of the US allowing this to happen is totally ignorant.

There are people who live in those countries and if it is a problem then maybe they should stand and fight for "their country", because it is not our fight!

If this was going on here then I would think that would a problem

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 05:02 PM on 04/14/2008

Keep out of North Carolina, sweetie.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 04:39 PM on 04/14/2008

Make that South Carolina too. In fact don't even decide to visit the entire east coast, mid-west, south, northwest, nor California. Just stay home you Benedict Arnold.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 08:32 PM on 04/14/2008

As a San Franciscan transplant, I know firsthand how annoyingly elitist and self-righteous we can appear and often times are. I am kind of upset, however, that at a venue where Obama was told there would absolutely be no reporters, Mayhill has the audacity to sneakingly tape his speech. She's as much a fraud as Obama is an elitist, if we're throwing stones and slinging mud. And, after growing up in the Midwest and living on both coasts later, I kind of agree with what he said. Go Obama!

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 01:50 PM on 04/14/2008

Its too bad that CNN/FOX/MSNBC did not report the full speech so the voters could hear the comments in the full context in which they were made. It it true that Sen.Obama said that his comments were "off the record" "informal" Did you inform anyone there you were recording him?

I personally think that when a person runs for Political Office its hard to believe that anythingthing the say or do during the campaign is "Off the Record. The only exception of course is converstations made at their homes to family members. Did you offer this tape to the varoius "News" agencies
and insist it be used in full context?. I don't know if you have the time to respond to these questions
with all thats going on before the 22nd, but certainly would appreciate anything you can do to resolve these questions.

PEACE
John

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 01:39 PM on 04/14/2008

This is the last time I will click on a Mayhill Fowler article, that is unless you sneak into a McCain and Hillary fundraiser event

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 01:36 PM on 04/14/2008

I'm confused and hope someone can enlighten me:

This article states that the introduction given for Obama was given by Sheila Jackson Lee, who has consistently been a HRC backer and served as a co-chair of her campaign. Has Lee switched camps or is this article inaccurate?

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 01:30 PM on 04/14/2008

I keep asking myself why it took months for Hillary's flat out lies to come to light, and how sad it is that any issue is being made of this.

The Clintons have gone from respected politicians to a circus act behind this campaign.

How many other folks remember the moment when you realized you wanted a woman for president, but you just couldn't ignore HRC's lies and constant double talk?

If she can't run a campaign (without resorting to playground politics), then how can she run a country? I really want to know how anyone can believe she could manage the United States when she has had so much trouble with her campaign? I really would like someone who supports HRC to explain it to me.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 01:08 PM on 04/14/2008

"This is something he will probably have to address more, as it's a figure sure to be analyzed and exploited by the Republicans should he ultimately win the nomination."

Well said. Fowler betrayed Obama with off the record remarks. She's a sneak.

Go check her previous articles. She labels Obama "cocky" every week!

A real dishonest character. She apparently gave money to Fred Thomspon's campaign.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:26 AM on 04/14/2008



Lets face it folks, Mayhill Fowler is a slag for Hillary Clinton. If there's any satisfaction, Hillary was booed at a campaign ( I think it was earlier today) when she tried to gain mileage out of it.
I gather most people who have heard about it, agrees with his sentiment, so good for him.
"
A politican looks forward only to the next election. A statesman looks forward to the next generation". Thomas Jefferson

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 05:39 PM on 04/14/2008

Thank you Mayhill Fowler for bringing out the truth about Obama's feelings about ordinary working-class americans like myself. You have done voters a great service by bringing these 'hidden' remarks out in the open.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 06:18 AM on 04/14/2008

Apparently you did not understand his comment. We in upstate NY are Ordinary working class people who have Lost our Jobs, is losing our houses and ability to support our families. He trying to explain that reason that people are Not voting for him is not "Race" related as indicated in the NY Times but more of 25 years been of broken promises to restoration of Jobs and Instustries by the Clinton and Bushs Administration .
Upstate New Yorkers are "Bitter". Hillary Clinton Promised upstate NY, which includes Rochester, that she would deliver 200,000+ jobs over the pass 6 years and have not. We have and still is losing homes, industries, the abilities to provide for our familities and jobs to outsourcing.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 07:14 AM on 04/15/2008

Obama includes religion, along with guns, xenophobia, and bigotry as things that small town people cling to because they are bitter at their economic disadvantage.

He says this in private to wealthy San Fransisco donors, who probably feel the same way and did not consider it controversial.

His attempt to "unsay" it and claim that what he meant to say was some construct he obviously wished he had said was laughable.

There was nothing unclear about his original statement on April 6. He thinks religion is an anachronism that will disappear with prosperity.

While his supporters may "cling" to the hope that this will blow over, Obama is toast.

Americans will rightfully not elect a secular humanist or atheist as president.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:04 PM on 04/13/2008

"He thinks religion is an anachronism that will disappear with prosperity."

Well, on average this is true. People who have to struggle more to get by in life are on average more religious. Of course, there are plenty of exceptions.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 03:51 PM on 04/14/2008

"If [Republicans] could cut funding for Medicare, Medicaid, education, and the environment, middle-class Americans would see fewer benefits from their tax dollars, feel more resentful paying taxes, and become even more receptive to their appeals for tax cuts and their strategy of waging campaigns on divisive social and cultural issues like abortion, gay rights, and guns."

-- Bill Clinton, in his 2004 memoirs, My Life, making the same argument as Sen. Barack Obama.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 01:53 PM on 04/14/2008

I think the comment expresses exactly how Senator Obama perceives many Americans and it troubles me greatly. This is not a single issue election. The genuine beliefs and perceptions of our President will effect all of us throughout his presidency. I have never had the gift of faith, but I certainly understand and respect the faith of others. And I am certainly aware that their faith is not based upon bitterness. And I am greatly troubled by the difference that this comment demonstrates between the Senator's actual feelings and those he expresses in his prepared speeches. And, forgive me if this is questioning his veracity about such a complicated and personal and sacred issue, but I cannot believe that a person of faith could so misunderstand the nature of faith and question the existence of that faith in others. (And as a San Franciscan, I was also troubled by the laughing acquiescence that you hear in the background from the usual limousine phonies who pay several thousand dollars to hobnob with whoever is passing through town at the moment).

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 01:07 PM on 04/13/2008

Obviously you didn't read his full discussion,. He was talkign about god and gun as "Wedge issues" not about religion per se.

Go read the book "What's the Matter with Kansas"

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:25 AM on 04/14/2008

I was actually leaning towards Hillary until I heard Obama's speech after he won in Iowa. Listening to him made me feel something I have not felt in many years. I was actually laughing at my reaction...he was peeling away years of being jaded with every word. I felt like the optomistic 18 year old I once was when I thought anything was possible. By the end of the speech I sat alone in my room cheering! I was seriously undecided until the day of my primary and felt female guilt for choosing Obama. But I never was a woman who had to burn her bra to feel liberated...I did not wear one. This time I did not compromise...not this time. I voted for the reason you want to vote...to feel hopeful that someone will fight the good fight. I do not say what I am about to say lightly. I was in Ohio in the last election handing out food and water to minority voters who waited 8 to 10 hours to vote. I am not a person who stands on the sidlines watching the election unfold. But if the super delegates take away the nomination from Obama, for the first time in my life I will not vote. As for Ms Fowler and her secret tape recorder..she got her 15 minutes of fame. She will more than likely loose what is most important to her...her standing with the San Fran social set.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 12:39 PM on 04/13/2008

Yes, but now you are a grown woman, not a naive 18 year old. You surely realize that a great speaker and inspiration is not enough to begin to solve the problems in our country that Bush Jr. has created.

I too find Obama's speeches well-done and he is a great speaker, but I also realize that won't solve this country's problems. It will take a lot of hard work with the Iraq war, the economy, the health insurance crisis, repairing relations with other countries....I will go with the more boring but hard working Clinton.

I doubt the super delegates would take the nomination from Obama. In fact, the party hierarchy is strongly on Obama's side and trying to force Clinton to withdrawal. Which I hope she does not as those who have not voted yet in their states' primaries should be able to to exercise their democratic vote for her if they so choose. I rue the day I gave $ to the Democratic Congressional Campaign if the party is going to try to stop the primary process.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 06:38 AM on 04/14/2008

Kikiva..., think your post is a very courageous one considering the very apparent anti-Hillary milieu on this post, as a matter of fact on any HuffPo thread. And I very much agree that the Democratic heirarchy better not just stop the primaries, with or without the superdelegates' support. Not sure what my response will be to that, should it happen, but just don't see myself doing the work I am doing to support Clinton for Barack Obama. Speeches we probably don't need. Inspiration should come from ideas and issues fulfilled in legislation and political action.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 10:22 AM on 04/14/2008

Hey Mayhill Fowler, seems to me like you have some more information on Barack Obama - Why not puke the whole lot, so the DNC could ask him to step down and we can then all throw our support behind HRC -

First - it was wright

Second - The truth about how some of us in country side America feel, due to the economic crunch. Btw: We are not small America. We are part of this great, blessed and highly favoured nation. So HRC and McCain, please stop calling us small America -

Third - What next Mayhill Fowler ???

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 06:29 AM on 04/13/2008

Im bitter about ex presidents making 800,000 for speeches from a country who you know wants help to pass this "new trade bill".. the last one the clintons gave us did us so much good, not. damn right im bitter... these people didnt come to washington being called "slick" for no reason...

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 11:09 PM on 04/12/2008

I wonder if you could get Obama to make a promise that if he is elected our President he will never take money for speeches, books, etc... after he leaves office.
I really doubt it.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 02:16 PM on 04/14