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Alan Simpson, co-chair of the Deficit Reduction Commission, once again has trouble with his mouth. The report he and co-chair Erskine Bowles issued in December recommended, in the words of South Florida NPR station WXEL, "Social Security benefit cuts via a higher retirement age, lower annual cost-of-living adjustments and a change in the way benefits are calculated." And, WXEL quoted Simpson in a just-released interview, as declaring, "We're not talking about privatization. These jerks that keep dragging that up are lying. We never suggested that."

But just a few weeks ago, he and co-chair Erskine Bowles let loose their deficit reduction report. Its "Recommendation 5.10" urged: "A serious bi-partisan conversation...regarding incentives to generate personal retirement savings that supplement Social Security...Americans need a fiscally responsible personal retirement savings system..."

Coming on the heels of their several proposed Social Security benefit reductions, those accounts would not simply "supplement" Social Security but would supplant significant parts of it. That in essence was George W. Bush's failed plan to divert a portion of Social Security revenue into private accounts. When "privatization" proved an unpopular term, President Bush tried, unsuccessfully, to disown it.

Former Senator Simpson is also trying to shuck it off. But, shucks, if it sounds so much like Bush's privatization gambit and would have essentially the same effects -- shrinking Social Security while expanding higher-cost, lower-reliability private plans, it makes sense to call that "privatization." Translated to Simpson-talk: "If it looks like a bum steer on Social Security, sounds like a bum steer, struts and staggers like a bum steer, we should just call it a bum steer."

 
 
 
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allenwsmith
07:19 PM on 02/08/2011
THERE IS NO RATIONAL REASON TO EVEN CONSIDER CUTTING SOCIAL SECURITY BENEFITSIf we could somehow clear away all the smoke and mirrors being used to confuse the American public about Social Security, any truly reasonable person would have great difficulty making any kind of argument for cutting Social Security benefits. We must not forget that we are still the richest nation in the world, and nothing that has happened in the past three years has changed that. What makes a nation rich is its productive resources. A lot of people lost a lot of money in the 2008 economic collapse, but how many productive resources did the nation lose? Did we lose our natural resources? Did we lose our factories and other production facilities­? Did our labor force die off or leave the country? The answer to all of these questions is no. We still have the same potential productive capacity that we had in 2007. We are just not using it. Many of our production facilities and many members of the labor force are idle because our government allowed our economic system to break down, much like it did in the 1930s. Our nation will become prosperous again. In the meantime we have to make some adjustment­s. But extending the tax cuts for the super rich while cutting Social Security benefits is not in the realm of rational behavior. If we do that, historians will wonder what brought on the mass insanity that caused us to behave irrational­ly.
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ProfessorDuh
02:27 PM on 02/09/2011
That's my econ prof talking, a fact that makes me proud.
06:08 PM on 02/08/2011
I don't accept your conclusion that the commission report was advocating privatization OF social security by advocating discussing the supplements TO social security.

"Lowering the the Cost of Living Adjustment" does not shrink the social security program, it just moves benefits from current to future retirees by defering the date at which the SS trust fund empties.

And their proposal "RECOMMENDATION 5.6: GRADUALLY INCREASE THE TAXABLE MAXIMUM TO COVER 90 PERCENT OF WAGES BY 2050."
provides new funds and grows the SS program.
12:31 PM on 02/08/2011
Interesting ... (think) :]

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allenwsmith
11:14 AM on 02/08/2011
THE TRUTH ABOUT THE SOCIAL SECURITY TRUST FUND IS COMING OUT

I have been posting comments on this blog for more than a year. Some of you may have believed me, but I suspect that a lot of you thought that I was a “nutty professor†who didn’t know what he was talking about. For more than nine years of my decade-long campaign to expose the looting of Social Security, I had almost no support from the media, but that is changing. In a recent post, I provided links to two of Allan Sloan’s columns on the subject. I hope you read them. Here are links to four other prominent journalists who are saying the same thing. PLEASE READ THEM!


The Social Security trust fund myth by E. Thomas McClanahan
Kansas City Star, December 26, 2010
http://voices.kansascity.com/entries/social-security-trust-fund-myth/


Social Security Turns 75, Starts Cadging From the Kids
Eric Schurenberg, Editor in Chief, CBSMoneyWatch.com
Posted: August 24, 2010 10:02 PM
http://moneywatch.bnet.com/retirement-planning/blog/financial-independence/social-security-turns-75-starts-cadging-from-the-kids/1006/


Your payroll taxes go into bottomless hole
BY TERRY SAVAGE Nov 28, 2010 0Chicago Sun-Times http://www.suntimes.com/business/savage/2291351-452/fica-tax-security-social-breakouttext.html

The Social Security Trust Fund Myth
By Steve Vernon, CBS Money Watch | Feb 1, 2011
http://moneywatch.bnet.com/retirement-planning/blog/money-life/the-social-security-trust-fund-myth/2944/
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allenwsmith
09:31 AM on 02/08/2011
THE BRUTAL FACTS

Most of the discussion about the financial status of Social Security is framed around the perception that Social Security has a surplus of $2.6 trillion and that is enough money to pay full benefits until 2037. Neither of these statements is true. They should be true, and they would be true, if the $2.6 trillion in surplus revenue, generated by the 1983 payroll tax hike, had been saved and invested in real marketable U.S. Treasury bonds as was the intent of the 1983 legislation. BUT THAT DID NOT HAPPEN!

When the first surplus revenue flowed into the Treasury in 1985, instead of using the money to purchase real Treasury bonds, it was diverted to the general fund and spent on other things. That practice continued, unchanged, until 2010 when years of surpluses came to an end and the nation entered into a period of permanent deficits. Social Security does not have a surplus of $2.6 trillion. It has no surplus because all of the money was looted and spent on other programs by the government. The government owes Social Security $2.6 trillion, but it has made no provisions to repay the money, and it does not currently have the means with which to repay the money. That is why politicians are trying to cut benefits, so the money will not have to be repaid. WE DARE NOT ALLOW THE GOVERNMENT TO GET BY WITH THIS TERRIBLE FRAUD!
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10:12 PM on 02/07/2011
He who yells the loudest has the most to hide.

simpson is lying about SS and the louder he gets the more he's trying to distract the American people.
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allenwsmith
08:31 PM on 02/07/2011
It is absolutlely crucial that the truth about what happened to the $2.6 trillion in surplus Social Security contributions, paid by the baby boomers, be exposed. That more than anything else will bring the stampede toward cutting Social Security benefits to a halt. What if tomorrow morning the headlines in newspapers across the country read, GOVERNMENT HAS SPENT $2.6 TRILLION OF SOCIAL SECURITY MONEY ON WARS AND OTHER GOVERNMENT PROGRAMS? Would that shake up a few people? Would that put a damper on the race to cut Social Security benefits? Of course it would. The above headline is absolutely true. The only reason that we have not read such headlines a long time ago is that the media does not have nearly the degree of freedom of the press that most people think it has. The corporate media play along with the powers that be a lot more than most people suspect. In the last post I included links to two articles by Allan Sloan. He is one of the most respected journalists in his field. He has won the prestigious Gerald Loeb Award seven times, and he was at Newsweek before going to Fortune. He has put his reputation on the line to help expose the Social Security scam. Please read his columns and ask yourself why such a person would take the risks involved in reporting a story that the government did not want reported. He has the courage that most journalists lack!
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allenwsmith
06:58 PM on 02/07/2011
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Throughout my long campaign to expose the looting of Social Security, the mainstream media has avoided the subject like the plague. The government does not want the story reported, so the media does not report it. That changed, at least a little, when Allan Sloan, Senior Editor at Large for Fortune Magazine, quoted me, and referred to one of my books, in his August 10, 2010 Washington Post column. Once Sloan broke the taboo, several other journalists followed, and Sloan wrote an even harder-hitting article on December 21 that included these words:
“The trust fund is nothing more than a trap and a fantasy for those who think it's a solid foundation for Social Security.â€
I think most journalists are still too “job scared†to cover the story. The Dan Rather Syndrome has had a powerful impact on journalists, especially given the fact that job security in the field of journalism may be at an all time low today. A major letters-to-the-editor campaign would be one way of helping journalists to publicize this issue without putting themselve at risk. They can publish the opinions of letter writers without being held responsible for the content. Here are links to Allan Sloan’s two articles on Social Security:

Allan Sloan, August 10, 2010
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/08/09/AR2010080905559.html

Allan Sloan, December 21, 2010

http://finance.fortune.cnn.com/2010/12/21/dont-trust-social-securitys-fund/
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allenwsmith
05:07 PM on 02/07/2011
"LET THE PEOPLE KNOW THE TRUTH AND THE COUNTRY IS SAFE" --Abraham Lincoln

We could sure use a President Lincoln today, coudn't we? I don't know whether or not Lincoln was as honest as historians protray him, but I do know that for the past 25 years, under five presidents, two Democrats and three Republicans, the American people have been hoodwinked and deliberately misled by their government to a greater degree than ever behore in American history. This is not exaggeration or hyperbole. If the truth ever comes out about the great Social Security scam, historians will be able to document what I say above.

The 1983 payroll tax hike, imposed on the baby boomers, allegedly so they would prepay the cost of their own Social Security benefits, has been effectively confiscated by the government and used to offset the lost revenue resulting from the unaffordable income tax cuts under Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush. Income and wealth have been transferred from the lower and middle-income classes to the upper class, with most of it ending up in the pockets of the richest 2 or 3 percent. The $2.6 trillion in surplus S.S. revenue was all spent by the government on other programs, and the government has made no provisions for repaying it. Those who want to cut S.S. benefits are trying to find a way to avoid repaying the Social Security money that has been "borrowed" or "stolen."
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10:10 PM on 02/07/2011
Borrowed is a kind word for what was done with our money. We paid into a fund and the money was flat out stolen.

If the government doesn't have the money to pay it back from the general funds (and leave it alone) they might want to think about getting it back from those who received it-----the rich.
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allenwsmith
04:48 PM on 02/07/2011
The American people had better wake up and begin to take action soon, if they want to save Social Security as we now know it. Regular readers will know that I have been researching and writing about Social Security for more than a decade, and I have been on a personal crusade for that long trying to expose the great Social Security scam. That scam is that the government has, for the past 25 years, under five presidents, diverted all Social Security surplus revenue into the general fund and spent the money for wars and other government programs. The government has been able to keep this secret for so many years because Social Security was always running surpluses. That has all changed. Social Security rand a $41 billion deficit in 2010, and is projected to run a $45 billion deficit in 2011. Social Security now needs the surplus revenue, but the government has made no provisions for repaying the money, so they are determined to cut benefits so they will not have to repay the money. THE PUBLIC MUST DEMAND REPAYMENT OF THE LOOTED MONEY!
Allen W. Smith, Ph.D.
Professor of Economics, Emeritus
Eastern Illinois University
Website: www.thebiglie.net
Email: ironwoodas@aol.com
Phone: 1-800-840-6812
04:06 PM on 02/07/2011
Today Obama said to the Chamber of Commerce.

".. I’ve proposed that we freeze annual domestic spending for the next five years. Understand what this means. This would reduce the deficit by more than $400 billion over the next decade, and bring this spending -- domestic discretionary spending -- down to the lowest share of our economy since Eisenhower was president. That was a long time ago."
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Defense and domestic discretionary spending compose nearly all of discretionary spending. I assume that Defense is not considered part of 'domestic discretionary spending'. According to some, projected future growth in entitlement program outlays may put severe pressure on discretionary spending unless policy changes are enacted or federal revenues are increased. Correct me if I am wrong, but Obama may have betrayed the average American once again.

How does he plan on paying back Social Security?
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bg66astoria
Research Helps
03:36 PM on 02/07/2011
Cut Social Security benefits that already don't cover expenses for most recipients?

Simpson is not dealing with reality!

Remove the salary cap from FICA, extend the tax to cash bonuses, cash incentives, etc. Include the hedge funders' 2% & 20% as normal earned income, make capital gains normal earned income!
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Searching for truth
02:36 PM on 02/07/2011
So, does he understand that we have IRA's and 401K plans already available? And does he know that we can put money into savings acocunts and certificates of Deposit or invest in the market, buy real estate, or other investments? So, what is going to change except that we won't be able to ALSO have Social Security.

For at least 15 years, we have been asked the simple but very pointed questions about whether we think Social Security will be there when we retire...as a way to condition us to it being taken away from us. But little is talked about that it does not contribute to the deficit because the government never has contributed any money to the Social Security program. Instead, we, the employees, along with our employers, contribute to the program and it has never failed to pay the beneficiaries of the Retirement Program.

And, when the recession took trillions in value from our homes and th estock market, Social Security didn't lose a penny. So, as they have tried in the past, and with the market agian climbing, they want to make us believe that the market is a safer place to put our retirement funds...until the next market crash takes away even more of our retirement dollars, maybe just when you are planning to retire. Do you want to trust your future to the risky Stock Market? I won't unless I have some secure funds in place first. Social Security is that.
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Welib
Peace on Earth!
02:16 PM on 02/07/2011
Simpson is a fossil and needs to be removed from any position of power.  To begin with, he targets nothing but lifelines and safety net programs for the American people.  He is a typical Republicans with antiquated ideas that are 50 or 60 years out of date.

The man is 80 years old for heavens sake.  He can't even relate to our youth, he has a typical Republican attitude toward women that is archaic and not 21st century thinking.  Simpson thinks he's a big shot when he's just an old man that has nothing to offer except what will most certainly hurt our people.

No one needs to cut these programs.  They need to cut the military and leave lifelines ALONE.  TAKE THE TAX PAYERS CREDIT CARD AWAY FROM REPUBLICANS since they can't seem to stop using it like they own it as in the 140 billion they added in December to the debt!  Remove any authority they have to spend money and let the Dems pay the debt down like they always have.