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You Can Be Depressed Without Being Sad

Posted: 08/17/2012 2:25 pm

Co-authored by Michael B. Friedman, L.M.S.W. and Kenneth G. Terkelsen, M.D.

Depression can be dangerous. Most people who take their own lives have a depressive disorder at the time (1). And people with both chronic physical illnesses such as heart disease or diabetes and a depressive disorder are at higher risk for disability and premature death than are people with chronic physical disorders who do not also have a depressive disorder (2) (3). That is why it is important to identify depressive disorders and to intervene in ways that effectively counter them.

But identifying depressive disorders is not as easy as it sounds, in part because people can have a depressive disorder without being sad (4).

This seems very strange because of the difference between "depression" as a psychiatric diagnosis and as an ordinary English word. Obviously, in ordinary English being "depressed" means being very sad. But as a psychiatric diagnosis, "depression" refers to a particular combination of symptoms. To have a diagnosable "major depressive disorder" (sometimes called "clinical depression"), you must have at least one of two particular symptoms -- called "cardinal" symptoms. Deep sadness ("depressed mood") is one of the two cardinal symptoms. The other is called "anhedonia" (Greek for "without pleasure"), which means not taking pleasure in pretty much anything, even in things that used to give you pleasure -- your work, your hobbies, your grandchildren, your friends, etc.

So if you have become bored with life, if you mostly sit around doing nothing unless you absolutely have to, if you find it difficult to rouse yourself enough to do even what you absolutely have to do -- you may have a depressive disorder.

Anhedonia, even in combination with profound sadness, is not enough for a diagnosis of major depressive disorder. There must be at least five symptoms in all. In addition to the two cardinal symptoms, these could include: sleep problems, having little energy, eating too much or too little, difficulty concentrating, moving or speaking noticeably slowly or being fidgety and restless, feeling that you are a failure, or thinking that you would be better off dead (5). People with major depressive disorder may also experience distressing ruminations, be irritable, or rely on drugs or alcohol to dull painful feelings (6).

Many people have depressive disorders without being aware that they do, and many of them muddle through life without getting help. Often their depression comes and goes. But it is important to remember that a depressive disorder can be dangerous and that you can get help.

First and foremost, if you are considering taking your own life, you should seek help. But even if you are "just" bored to death, you may have a major depressive disorder that could be dangerous -- especially if you have heart problems, high blood pressure, diabetes, or other chronic illnesses.

Where can you turn? Whether you are feeling suicidal or not, The National Suicide Prevention Lifeline -- 1- 800-273-TALK (8255) -- can connect you with the nearest mental health crisis information and referral service. Or you can talk to your family physician. Or you can seek help from a local mental health provider. Some people find that religious advisers and mutual aid groups can be helpful.

Physicians, too, need to take anhedonia seriously. Screening for depressive disorders is now recommended as a standard part of physical examinations, though unfortunately many physicians still do not do it (7). Some physicians ignore all but the most obvious psychiatric symptoms. Others ask questions such as "Have you been depressed recently?" Physicians should also be asking, "Have you lost interest in life?" because this question identifies depression without sadness.

It is particularly important to identify depression without sadness (anhedonia) because recent research indicates that it may be anhedonia rather than sadness that correlates with poor physical health (8). Why is not clear, but it may be that people who have lost interest in life just don't care enough or have the inner energy to do what is necessary to cope with or overcome chronic illness -- exercise, diet, taking medication, and so forth.

What can be done to overcome a depressive disorder? There are, of course, many medications that can be helpful, and physicians obviously rely heavily on them (9). However, there are other effective ways to counter depression. Psychotherapies, such as problem solving therapy, can be effective (10). Exercise also may be effective (11). Some recent research indicates that helping others (people and animals) tends to reduce depression (12) (13). But the major antidote to depression probably is being involved in activities and with people.

The problem, of course, is that some people with depressive disorders -- especially those who experience anhedonia -- just can't get themselves going. They are caught in a vicious cycle: The more isolated and inactive they are, the more depressed they are, and the more depressed they are, the more isolated and inactive they become. Formal interventions including outreach to encourage people to get off their couches, go for therapy, take their medications, or take a walk may well be essential for people caught in this vicious cycle (14). And sometimes, just getting a call from a friend saying, "Let's take a walk" is what gets a person with anhedonia going.

Need help? In the U.S., call 1-800-273-8255 for the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline.

Kenneth G. Terkelsen, M.D., is a general psychiatrist and Assistant Director for Behavioral Health Services of the Community Health Center of Cape Cod.

(1) American Association of Suicidology. "Some Facts About Depression and Suicide." 2010. http://www.suicidology.org/c/document_library/get_file?folderId=232&name=DLFE-246.pdf

(2) For example, Freedland K. et al. "Impact of Depression on Prognosis in Heart Failure" in PubMedCentral, January 2012. http://ukpmc.ac.uk/articles/PMC3032411

(3) Ciechanowski, P. et al. "Depression and Depression ... " in Archives of Internal Medicine, November 2000. http://archinte.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=485556

(4) Gallo, J. et al. "Depression Without Sadness..." in Journal of The American Geriatric Society, May 1997. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9158577

(5) Drawn from a standardized screening instrument for depression, known as the PHQ-9 http://www.integration.samhsa.gov/images/res/PHQ%20-%20Questions.pdf

(6) Anonymous. "DSM-IV Criteria for Diagnosing Depression" in Depression Today. http://www.mental-health-today.com/dep/dsm.htm

(7) Maurer, D. "Screening for Depression" in American Family Physician, January 15, 2012. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22335214

(8) Davidson, K. et al. "Association of Anhedonia With Major Adverse Cardiac Events ..." in Archives of General Psychiatry, May 2010. http://archpsyc.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=210778

(9) National Institute of Mental Health. "How Depression Is Diagnosed and Treated". http://nimh.nih.gov/health/publications/depression/how-is-depression-diagnosed-and-treated.shtml

(10) National Institute of Mental Health. "How Depression Is Diagnosed and Treated". http://nimh.nih.gov/health/publications/depression/how-is-depression-diagnosed-and-treated.shtml

(11) Mead, G., et al. "Exercise for Depression" in The Cochrane Library January 2010. http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/14651858.CD004366.pub4/abstract

(12) Layous, K. et al. "Delivering Happiness: Translating Positive Psychology Intervention Research..." in The Journal of Alternative and Complementary Medicine, 2011. http://www.faculty.ucr.edu/~sonja/papers/LCLWD2011.pdf

(13) Thompson, D. "With Depression Helping Others May In Turn Help You" in Health Day, January 2, 2012. http://consumer.healthday.com/Article.asp?AID=656391

(14) Katon, W. et al. "Collaborative Care for Patients With Depression and Chronic Illness" in New England Journal of Medicine, December 30, 2010. http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa1003955

 

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04:04 PM on 09/11/2012
For depressed patients, antidepressants provide only partial relief to 50% and no relief for 40%. Only 30% respond to an antidepressant initially and this may take up to 6 weeks to achieve. The most common side effects of antidepressants are weight gain and decreased libido. A new treatment, transcranial direct current stimulation (tDCS) uses an imperceptibly small amount of electricity from a stimulator powered by a 9 volt battery administered by sponge electrodes over targeted areas of the brain. tDCS is similar to transcranial magnetic stimulation (TMS) in effect, but much safer. In a study published earlier this year, tDCS reduced depression scores 50% for patients unresponsive to antidepressants and this was maintained for at least 3 months. Cognitive function improves with the initial 20-minute tDCS treatment and depression lessens within a week. tDCS is non-invasive, easy to do, without side effects and can be done by the patient at home. The life-time cost of tDCS is less than the cost of an antidepressant for a year and less than a quarter of the cost of a single TMS protocol. Using a different electrode montage, tDCS provides relief for chronic pain including migraine, fibromyalgia and complex regional pain. tDCS is effective, safe, easy to do, with no side effects and cost-effective.
12:30 AM on 08/22/2012
To me, what is labelled "depression" is when emotions(anger, sadness, fear, joy and hope) become bottled up, this, due to a pressure not to feel anything else but happy.

I find much energy being able to accept feelings of sadness, anger, and even fear, this, at what I think are the injustices of the world.

All the psychiatric labels and drugs cannot balance brain chemistry like receiving deep compassion, empathy and understanding, 24/7 if need be, from those who feel a geniune need to give it.

Why does traditional care get so much positive attention, when still many people are not being helped with such drug "guessing games." State hospitals still exists, 840,000 suicide attempts yearly in America, and 1,000,000 successful suicides globally and 35,000 suicides in America each year. Lawsuits have been won declaring pysch drugs cause violence.

A tremendous gap of care exists in Psychiatry, and I think it can't be closed with more brain altering drugs.

Psychiatry is far, very far, from being an exact science, or even close to being a scientific approach at all, this, because there still is not a medical test that proves a person has a defected brain.
10:46 PM on 08/21/2012
"anhedonia". It is a sad day when nothing gets rid of the grey inside. You can smile, but you don't really feel it. You feel nothing. If you are not used to that it could be disturbing. Not knowing where to turn or how to get it back. You don't feel human. Maybe some go through life like this? But you can see it in their eyes, not really smiling. Just going through the motions.

Usually associated with not accepting something in life or aggrandizing bad situations & making short sighted assumptions about life.

How to get out of it? I wish I could tell you definitively. Maybe time, getting help & working on emotional demons with honesty? Hold on to any little bit of happiness/joy you can get like it is a lifeboat.

I wish you healthy healing if you are struggling with depression. You are not alone & everyone is not happier or better than you. I hope it is just a transition for you to grow compassion for others who suffer emotionally.
07:54 PM on 08/21/2012
There are also medical conditions that can cause depression, muddled thinking, listlessness and a host of other problems. One of the foremost and most common is thyroid disease. It's been proven that thyroid disease, in particular, Hashimoto's disease, can cause panic attacks. Make sure your doctor tests not just your TSH, but also Free T3 and Free T4. If your M.D. only tests TSH, he's missing the boat. Find another doctor. Thyroid problems usually can be fixed fairly easily. It's been found that some people on mood-elevating drugs and even those showing early signs of dementia actually have thyroid disorders. Hope this helps someone.
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07:02 PM on 08/21/2012
These same people who think depression (I call it "clinical depression" so people understand the difference) is some kind of joke, probably don't realize that somebody they know or somebody in their family suffers from depression and needs medical help. I hope they will look around and try to detect that person, or discuss this article with friends and suggest that they might know someone who is suffering. If someone seems to be asking for help, offer it; you may be the last person they reach out to before they commit suicide.

In college, a girl in our building who was one of the most cheerful people I knew tried to jump out of the window of the apartment building next door. The boys who lived there were able to stop her by grabbing her clothes as she jumped, but we needed someone to commit her. I ran to the college and got a psychiatrist from the Psychology Department, and after talking to her, he called an ambulance and had her committed. We called her parents to take care of her and she had to leave school. A lot of the time, you can't tell unless you know what to look for, or are listening closely.
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03:31 PM on 08/21/2012
people don't understand that just because a person seems to be just fine, they can be screaming on the inside. they just hide it so they don't burden those they know.
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03:23 PM on 08/21/2012
Anhedonia used to be referred to by a different name and was commonly recognized... It was called ennui. Very often it's mentioned in the works of 19th century writers like Jane Austin and Tolstoy...Unfortunately, because the stories very often centered on wealthy characters and treated the working class and poor differently, it was not recogized to be a problem common to all. For the poor - they were poor... what pleasure could they expect to have anyway? So the term went out of fashion.

Which came first???? Lack of energy or anhedonia? Seems to me that if one's energy could be boosted, anhedonia might be mitigated. However, is anhedonia linked only to pleasure.... what of those who have a narrow range of emotion.... never very happy, but also never very sad, never really angry. It's as if there is a middle line of emotion.... and a normal person would vary between +30 on the happy side on a normal day and -30 on the down side on a normal day. Instead, there are those who never go much more than +5 or -5.... even when it comes to grief.

When they delve into that more deeply with regard to health, I'd be curious to know if the dampening of emotions is causing the lack of energy... or some physical problem... hormonal? digestive? circulatory? causing low energy, which makes it very difficult care one way or the other.
12:45 PM on 08/20/2012
Well in that case, I was depressed for all of my teenage years.
02:58 PM on 08/21/2012
Then apparently you have no grasp on what clinical depression is.
01:20 AM on 08/22/2012
this isn't a competition about who is more depressed. i feel no need to explain what i've been through, what sort of harm i've inflicted upon myself, or how i felt. don't judge me, you don't know a single thing about me.
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04:48 PM on 08/22/2012
That is an insensitive comment.
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Mark Helfgott
11:59 PM on 08/17/2012
My dealer says you can be stoned without being high. In Yemen for sure.
01:38 AM on 08/20/2012
It is a really damn shame that the only comment here is yours.

The joke is not a bad one, but much like the stones being thrown, it is aimed at an innocent target, undeserving of such treatment. It is obvious that you lack the intelligence to fully grasp this information, but deal with your underdeveloped mind privately. There is no need belittle this article or the people who collaborated in this study who are masters in their field. Are you a professor at Columbia, or anywhere? Have you read even a chapter of even one of the 14 books mentioned here as sources or a full book on this topic?

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For those of you wishing to expand your mind, here is what the article is saying:

When diagnosing depression (the mental disorder), a patient must show at least 1 of 2 cardinal symptoms; Sadness and Adhedonia (lack of enjoyment in all you used to enjoy/demotivation).

A lot of people overlook Adhedonia, thinking the psychiatric term depression MUST involve sadness. One can suffer from adhedonia, but not sadness. Thus, many people go undiagnosed and untreated for depression. This article could help save lives.

I'm sure many experts in their fields have to deal with lay people over simplifying things they do not understand.
12:14 PM on 08/20/2012
I enjoyed reading this article and I enjoyed Dr. Sanchez's remarks. I think depression is very misunderstood and the point of the article - you can be depressed without being sad - is a good point.

Depression is very difficult to diagnose, and it is often more difficult for the depressed person to seek help. I hope people who have suspected depressed friends/aquaintances in their lives read this article and help that person by 'going for a walk'!.
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Mark Helfgott
08:44 PM on 08/20/2012
There is nothing sacred. Thanks for liking my gag. I'm on Zoloft. I know very well what's going on here.