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Michael Kieschnick

Michael Kieschnick

Posted: March 17, 2010 05:50 PM

Environmental Groups: Stop the Push for Global Warming Legislation

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Message to environmental groups. Stop the emails telling me that it is urgent to bring global warming legislation up for a vote in the Senate. Over the past two weeks, I have must have received twenty emails (yes, I am a junkie for environmental activism).

Today, E&E Reporter posted an article with the following headline:

CLIMATE: Senate trio courts industry in bid to pre-empt ad war (03/17/2010) Darren Samuelsohn, E&E reporter

The first sentence of the story? "The lead authors of the Senate climate bill are courting key members of an industry coalition that once cheered on Dick Cheney's energy policies."

It is time to admit the truth -- no legislation that actually addresses global warming will pass the Senate this year. With the great majority of the Republican minority committed to a no vote on almost anything, and with senators beholden to powerful coal (think Sen. Rockefeller), oil (think Sen. Murkowski) and nuclear (think Sen. Alexander) only interested in legislation that actually advances their destructive industries, this is a terrible climate to insist that there must be a vote. Anything that could get a supermajority will be a terrible bill.

And the bad news is that the Senate context will probably be worse next year.

There are several culprits, of course, but the biggest one is the tradition of a 60 vote filibuster in the Senate. There might be 50 senators willing to vote for legislation that would start to address global warming, but there are surely not 60. And senators 51 to 60 - that is, the senators needed to get to a sufficient number to break a filibuster - are almost entirely representative of the dirty fuel crowd.

And there price will be extremely high. It took $80 billion of subsidies to the dirtiest industry around - the coal industry - to get a handful of coal state Democrats to vote for a global warming bill in the House where only a majority is required. In the Senate, almost by definition, that $80 billion would be much bigger - and that is just for coal. The nuclear industry wants $100 billion. And these are some of the same people who say we cannot afford universal health care. Their audacity is breathtaking but effective.

I have no doubt that the planet is warming rapidly. I believe we must act rapidly and aggressively to slow and then reverse the accumulation of global warming gases. But the bitter reality is that Senate has demonstrated far beyond a shadow of a doubt that it cannot produce legislation that will move us forward.

Of course, we should not give up just because the Senate has been captured by hostile forces. We have to put as much fight into what can be done by regulatory agencies under the temporary control of President Obama. Coal plants can be denied permits. Appliance efficiency standards can be tightened. The Environmental Protection Agency can be defended against powerful efforts to prevent it from enforcing the Clean Air Act.

As long as we pretend that it is possible to pass strong global warming legislation through the Senate, the longer we waste the efforts of millions of committed environmentalists.

We can handle the truth. It is time to fight on a more favorable battlefield.

 
 
 
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Jimmy Seidita
10:58 PM on 03/30/2010
I agree 100% with Kieschnick. Much as I'd love to see a good climate bill emerge from the Senate, it is simply not conceivable in this political climate. We will get either an awful bill, loaded down with huge giveaways to coal and nuclear, and with the good stuff watered down and postponed so as to be meaningless; or else we'll have no bill at all, and no chance at revisiting the issue until after 2012.

It makes so much more sense for the EPA to start regulating carbon emissions right now. The agency already has the authority and expertise to limit carbon emissions, and the Supreme Court has opened the door for such regulations by rejecting the Bush EPA's argument that it could not regulate carbon. Then the vote in the Senate would be whether to prevent the EPA from taking action, and the 60 vote supermajority rule becomes our friend. Even if they get the 60 votes, the President can veto such a bill. And there are not enough votes there to override a presidential veto.

This all seems so obvious to anyone paying attention, I'm wondering why Senate leaders, Obama administration leaders, and the big national environmental groups all want to see a vote on a Senate bill. It makes no sense. Why must we be pilloried, defending an awful bill, that probably won't pass anyway, or won't help if it does?
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ReedYoung
global mean temperature, obviously INCREASING
11:48 PM on 03/22/2010
I agree, no climate bill worth the paper it's printed on will pass this Senate. Environmentalists should work on making cap and dividend a campaign issue in states where the environment is taken seriously and a Senate seat is available this November. In the meantime, put wind farms and rooftop solar into jobs bills if you can.
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04:59 PM on 03/23/2010
Sadly, have to agree with Reed on this one.
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03:10 PM on 03/22/2010
CO2 is a greenhouse gas and increasing, but are humans responsible?

We know humans produce ~35 Billion Tons of extra CO2/year. Yeah, old data says 26 billion, but we now have China and more people.

A ballpark question is: how much bigger is 35 Billion Tons than CO2's yearly rise rate? Answer:

Earth's radius = ~6,370,000 meters.
Scale Height of the atmosphere (height if it were all at sea level pressure) ~8 km.
Air Density at sea level: ~1.29 kg per cubic meter

So, mass of the atmosphere (4PI r squared x height) is: 4PI x 6,370,000m2 x 8,000m x 1.29 kg/m3 = ~5.26 quadrillion metric tons.

How much is CO2? At a current 388 ppm, it's (388/1,000,000) x 5.26 quadrillion tons = ~2.04 trillion tons.

So, 1 ppm of CO2 is 2.04 trillion tons/388 = 5.26 billion tons.

Ergo, human activity adds 35/5.26 = ~6.65 ppm to the yearly global CO2 budget.

Global CO2 is now rising at ~2.6 ppm per year. This suggests the Earth isn't a perfect sponge, but still re-adsorbs ~60% of our emissions, ~4 ppm per year!

More careful inventory says the Earth absorbs only ~50%.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airborne_fraction

But grab a calculator and check it yourself. No computer or outside authority needed.
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03:17 PM on 03/22/2010
Doubt we emit 35 Billion tons of CO2 per year? Check it yourself with a calculator & some wiki page factoids.

Americans emit ~20% of global CO2, ~21% via auto exhaust, 40% for home heat/light/appliances, the rest for industrial/commercial, transport, etc.

An average American drives ~12k miles/year at ~17.1mpg.
12,000 miles/17.1mpg = ~700gls of gas/year, or ~a tank a week.
Gasoline weighs ~6 lbs/gl. So, we burn ~6 x 700 = ~4,200 lbs of gasoline/year.

Gasoline is mostly iso-octane - C8H18 (C=12, H=1, so mol. wt. = 114); heptane is C7H16 (mol. wt. = 100). So, 89 octane yields an average mol. wt., of ~113. Burning a molecule of it yields ~7.9 molecules of CO2 (O=16; ergo, mol. wt. 7.9 x 44 = 348).

So, a U.S. auto emits ~(348/113) x 4,200 = ~12,930 lbs or ~ 5.9 metric tons of CO2/year.

If that's 21% of total, then each American emits ~5.9/0.21 = ~28 metric tons of CO2/year.

We have ~240 million U.S. cars/trucks. So, we make ~28 x 240 million = 6.7 billion tons of CO2/year, ~20% of the global total.

That yields 6.7/0.20 = ~33.6 billion tons of CO2 globally/year.

Chip in a few billion for forest fires, deforestation of the Amazon, southeast Asia, and Siberia, desertification of the Sahel, Gobi, Sahara, and there's MORE THAN 35 billion tons.
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03:22 PM on 03/22/2010
Thus, the persistent denier myth that human contributions are too small to impact CO2 levels is quite wrong. As the arithmetic above clearly shows (which anyone with a calculator can follow), humans are producing ~2.6x more CO2 yearly than its annual rise rate. Thus, CO2 rise rates correlate well with rising human CO2 production because the Earth manages to re-absorb roughly half of our excess emissions.

But the denier myth is dangerous in that it also ignores the intricate and finely tuned web of balances needed to maintain equilibrium in complex systems. Typically for stability, complex systems must juggle many delicate flux budgets, driven by nearly equal inputs and outputs. Even a small excess (e.g., human CO2 contributions), if added too quickly, can disrupt a metastable balance between two large opposing fluxes. Thus, a small deviation from net zero can amplify to change the basic state - doesn't bode well.

So, anthropogenic CO2 is destabilizing. I.e., CO2 level is largely independent of temperature, but water vapor (still the most dominant greenhouse gas) levels tend to rise with temperature. Thus, a little CO2-induced initial warming evaporates more oceanic water vapor, and warmer air holds more water vapor. Since more water vapor absorbs more thermal radiation, warming is amplified. Refinements, such as cellular transport and convection, cloud condensation/rain-out, etc., mitigate the basic notion, but the bottom line is:
THE WARMER IT GETS, THE FASTER IT'LL WARM.
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03:09 PM on 03/22/2010
Instead of he says/she says, we can rough-check climate models ourselves via real data, as follows:

Below is a 5 year moving average (satellite/surface data combo, heat island effects corrected), data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/graphs/Fig.A2.pdf

Shows temperature rising fast from ~1980 by ~0.6 degs. C. Since then, CO2 also rose from 337 to 388 ppm, ~1.7ppm/year, accelerating to +2ppm/year.
www.esrl.noaa.gov/gmd/ccgg/trends/#mlo_full

Combining the two graphs yields ~0.6 degs. C per 50ppm CO2 rise rate.

Given human greed and denial, there's little reason to believe we'll do more than shave the current rise rate back to 1.7ppm/year over the next 30 - 40 years. If so, we pass 450 ppm by 2050, for a total increase of 1.4 degs C (2.5 degs F) since 1980. Or 530ppm with 3.0 degs C (5.0 degs F) of increase by 2100.

This strictly linear calc ignores methane (21 times stronger a greenhouse gas than CO2) from thawing arctic peat bogs, lowered arctic albedo from melted polar ice caps, increased water vapor (still the dominant greenhouse gas) due to air warmed initially by CO2, etc. - all supra-linear effects, expected to increase the rise rate.

If you want a better estimate, try a full-blown model, like James Hansen's that says +5 degs C by AD 2100 and an eventual 9 meter sea level rise.
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03:23 PM on 03/22/2010
As said above, water vapor, the dominant greenhouse gas (unless methane overtakes it), is the main driver for supra-linear warming. Once CO2 initiates some warming by absorbing thermal radiation that would otherwise radiate to space, the extra warmth increases water vapor, since warmer oceans evaporate more water and warmed air can hold more water. The extra water absorbs more thermal radiation, further warming the air. Not only is this supra-linear, the vapor increase is also supra-linear with temperature.

How much more water can warmer air hold? If mean global surface temperature is T1 ~286.5 degs. Kelvin (56 degs F), what happens if temperature rises 3 degs. to T2 = 289.5 degs. K, a 1.05% increase?

From the Magnus relation for saturation vapor pressure (max amount of water vapor air can hold at a given temperature),

e(T2)/e(T1) = exp(17.625 x T2/(T2 + 243.04) )/exp(17.625 x T1/(T1 +243.04) )

= 1.0467 , or 4.67% more water vapor for a 1.05% temperature increase,
clearly supra-linear.

This rough check neglects many mitigating factors: transport, convection, cloud condensation, rain-out, etc., but consistent with basic thermodynamics, I can think of no instance where intra-system negative feedback ever compensated fully for an initial forcing. So, once CO2 warms the air initially, water vapor increases supra-linearly with temperature, begetting a positive feedback that induces more warming.
05:51 PM on 03/22/2010
Do you have the calculations on how much cooling occurs when the "supra-linear" water vapor finally "rains-out?" Next, how about showing some calculations on the percentage of radiation absorbed by CO2 in the presence of various levels of water vapor? Isn't this at the heart of global warming theory which predicts greatest warming occuring at the poles where cold minimizes water vapor?
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03:23 PM on 03/22/2010
Regarding denier attempts to discredit basic temperature data: "As suggested by the National Academy of Sciences in its 2006 report, Michael Mann and his colleagues have reconstructed northern hemisphere temperatures for the past 2000 years using a broader set of proxies than was available for the original "hockey stick" study and updated measurements from the recent past. The new reconstruction has been generated using two statistical methods, both different from that used in the original study. Like other temperature reconstructions done since 2001, it shows greater variability than the original hockey stick. Yet again, though, the key conclusion is the same: it's hotter now than it has been for at least 1000 years."
05:08 PM on 03/18/2010
Before there are any further considerations for either the house or senate energy bill, someone should take a hard look at how we could possibly achieve an 80% reduction in carbon emissions by 2050. If you take a hard look at all the major emission sources, it does not appear to be possible with current technology, no matter how much we are willing to sacrifice in costs. A detailed national plan is required. Just saying there is enough wind & solar capacity to cover all our power needs doesn't get it. There will still be a substantial natural gas backup required for days without wind & sun and power generation only represents half of our emissions.
03:58 PM on 03/19/2010
Solar,

wind

and

bio fuels

have been studied and have been determined to be more than able to supply all the worlds energy needs, cheaper, safer, cleaner and forever.

Cheaper when you factor in what we should be charging fossil and nuke for their environment damage.

Rooftop pv can already be the cheapest power you can buy.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/users/profile/research?action=profile

We need to stop waiting for better tech, and spend the money and the very good tech products we have now.

We need a trillion dollar 10 years program of producing and installing rooftop pvs solar in the sunny spots, and wind and bio fuels where appropriate.

and all those fossil and nukes subsides and research should be shifted immediately to green energy, not rich old fat monopolies.

And we need small business preferences to prevent the giants from stamping out and eating up all the new tech companies.

We are at a very good point in hour history to make this change, solar has Finally become available cheaper before subsides. similar for wind. Bio Fuels can be implemented very quickly if the refinery companies would get behind them. It's all old chemistry. (Not food land ethanol!)
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02:31 PM on 03/21/2010
Development time constraints and total option potentials say there's really only one doable general energy road map.

1) 2010 - 2020: first 30% reduction requires basic birth control and individual/institutional conservation. I.e., eating 2/3rds less beef (carbon-equivalent to driving 1/3rd less miles), use power strips to short phantom current, phase out tungsten filaments and gas guzzlers. Phase in white roofs in sunny climes, caulking/weatherstripping, programmable thermostats, heat pumps, TELECOMMUTING, etc., all cheap or cost-free to implement.

2) 2010 - 2030: next 20% requires full-scale wind energy deployment, over a 20 year period, with solar, wave, tidal, and geo filling in to help a smart grid. At 25% utilization and $2M per 2.5 MW peak turbine, that's ~$3.2 billion per GW wind farm, ~1/3rd of a nuke plant. Offshore farms run ~ double that. If residential photovoltaic gets cheap enough - well, GREAT. Meanwhile, electric autos, much higher efficiency appliances, and near zero energy homes and high rises, with high-speed rail, cellulosic ethanol, algae fuels, start phasing in.

3) 2030 - 2070: Final 50%. It'll take at least 20 years to begin deploying advanced nuclear - i.e., liquid fluoride thorium reactors (LFTR). They burn existing rad wastes, are proliferation-resistant, have zero-meltdown potential. Traveling wave design eliminates reprocessing rad risk. Thorium's plentiful, and far cheaper to mine than uranium.

Doing ALL of it would stabilize climate. Sadly, most people don't care enough about their progeny to take this on.
11:54 AM on 03/22/2010
You are dreaming. Stabilize a climate that's been warming and cooling for millions of years? If we cared about our progeny, we wouldn't keep letting our gov't spend us into ruin. We need a stable economy, not a stable climate.
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03:06 PM on 03/22/2010
Sorry, but the above is what it is. Saying the climate keeps changing says basically nothing at all, without taking time scales into account.

I.e., though ice ages have come and gone over time scales of several tens of thousands of years, what we're doing now to warm the planet in a couple hundred years is maybe a hundred times faster than what happens during an interglacial period. So, to use your tired sports analogy, it's "taken climate change to a whole new level."
03:32 PM on 03/18/2010
My personal hope is policy makers would look to incentivize investment by favorable treatment of green practices.

Target major energy consumers and create intensity factors for their business output and give tax breaks to companies exceeding that intensity by a percent amount. In short directly subsidize activities that reduce emissions per output. This benefits the person financing the activity and the company providing the technology that creates the efficiency.

I think it is very possible in a highly cost conscious world to create vehicles that advance the agenda without a hard mandate. Of course getting the low hanging fruit and removing it from a potential cap and trade offset table might also spur the heavy emitters to come around to getting a bill sooner rather than later. Every reduction voluntarily implemented becomes one removed as a potential offset. If the producers don't want to move first, incentivize the consumers to. It also works on the demand curve as well as the supply curve.
01:41 PM on 03/18/2010
OK I’ll try again…

If anyone wants to raise our electricity rates by $3,000 a year, please first invest some time and see for yourself what the uncovered CRU emails and computer programs actually revealed. You never got the full story from the American press. Pay yourselves $300/hour instead and spend 10 hours looking into it for yourself.

The datasets appear as though they were corrupted by the Jones team, and need to be reviewed by an independent team of scientists & mathematicians. This would give us all a six month or so “cooling down” period on this debate. This thing isn’t going anywhere until that is resolved, I assure you. From initial analysis every bias was incorporated into the data always seems to increase the temps in the raw data they received, automatically “proving” that we face a crisis. Everybody uses this SAME data set that has been “adjusted” by Jones, NASA, NOAA GIST etc.

In 1975 Newsweek published an article warning about the imminent dangers of global cooling crisis and how to prevent another imminent ice age, which ended: “The longer the planners delay, the more difficult will they find it to cope with climatic change once the results become grim reality.”

http://www.denisdutton.com/cooling_world.htm
02:30 PM on 03/18/2010
"If anyone wants to raise our electricity rates by $3,000 a year, please first invest some time and see for yourself "

Rooftop solar pv is already the cheapest electricity in Hawaii, and CA.

rooftop solar, better, cheaper.

see my profile for proof.

Climate change or not.
04:25 PM on 03/18/2010
No problem. No one is stopping you - I hope it becomes more affordable so more people can rig this solar electricity up. But what if your homeowners assoc. or village doesn't allow it? What if you rent? How much extra will we pay for manufactured goods where they need reliable coal powered electricity? Manufactured goods like dishes, clothes, chairs, etc. that we buy for our home? Saw mills that make the lumber for your house and the truck that drives it to you. They will not likely be powering the factories with solar. I need to drive to work or take a bus. Energy costs are a part of almost everything. I think the $3,000 estimate may include all this stuff (I hope!) And thats every year cost going forward.

We don't want to go there just on somebody's whim or crazy idea or cooked numbers
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eddiestardust
03:48 PM on 03/20/2010
Here in The United States we spend roughly $2 Billion lighting up the undersides of Clouds, Birds & Airplanes...

UNLESS YOU ARE GEORGE JETSON..YOU DON'T NEED TO DO THIS!
01:17 PM on 03/18/2010
Was my comment censored? Why? Not being rude to anyone here. Do you think its abusive to suggest an outside inquiry to see if Jones has been lying about his data? That is outrageous. In fact- its being done right now formally at east anglia.
12:34 PM on 03/18/2010
It’s not about “the science” any more, and it never was. It’s about economics, politics, and of course MONEY... The hard working taxpayers versus big government.... The environmentalist`s ideas may be green, but their motivations are RED!
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jsgaetano
"Conservative" is not a political party, genius.
11:39 AM on 03/18/2010
Is there EVER a good time to start fighting for something?

No matter what the issue is, some politico somewhere is going to say "let's not do this just now".
12:21 PM on 03/18/2010
Yes, and only a fool rushes into a fight that he can't win.
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jsgaetano
"Conservative" is not a political party, genius.
03:14 PM on 03/18/2010
Tell that to Ghandi.
10:31 AM on 03/18/2010
Great article; but in paragraph 8 you want "their price," not "there price."

You don't need to post this, just wanted to let you guys know.
10:09 AM on 03/18/2010
Using climate change as a reason to pass a bill for a low-carbon economy is the wrong strategy. The economic and national security issues are more compelling and more likely to get a biparisan approach.

Our investment experts, the EU and China all believe that the global market for clean tech will be over 5 trillion by 2020 which is why the Chinese government is investing 9 billion/month in clean tech. They want to corner the global market. We are seeing Japan, Brazil, Germany, Spain, South Africa and others following suit. America is falling way behind. If we invest via a clean energy bill we garner large market share. How many American jobs would be created by a 2 Trillion global market share?

We now spend over $300 billion per year in importing foreign oil much of which comes from countries that are adverse to us. One way to look at this is that we are funding both sides of the wars we are in. We are currently spending $50 billion per year patrolling the Straits of Hormuz to keep oil shipping lanes open

So, if we approach a new energy bill from these perspectives we are more likely to get something comprehensive through and in doing so we begin to address climate change at the same time.
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My politics do not meet guidelines.
09:32 AM on 03/18/2010
Sadly, this is all too true.

Any environmental legislation likely to pass THIS Congress will prove environmentally destructive.
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rougebaisers
08:14 AM on 03/18/2010
Pass everything....pass nothing. What's the diff? The vast majority of humanity does not have long on this planet we rape and pillage every moment of every day. For those that are left, well let's just say you will not want to live in the world with humans after the desperation ensues.
ThatsTheTheWayItIs
religion, ideology, partisanship are delusional
08:07 AM on 03/18/2010
An energy bill will pass easily, once oil returns to $140 a barrel.