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Is Wisconsin Now a Purple State?

Posted: 06/06/2012 12:38 pm

Does Scott Walker's victory in the Wisconsin recall election mean that Wisconsin is now in play in the November presidential election?

Short answer is no, for two reasons.

The first reason is that the exit polls show that if Obama was on the ballot, he would have won by a comfortable 51 percent to 44 percent margin.

What the exit polls do reveal for the Romney campaign is that 18 percent of Obama supporters voted for Walker. These persons represent potential persuadable voters that the Romney campaign will target if they decide to invest heavily in Wisconsin. What we do not know from the exit polls is why these voters would have split their vote between Obama and Walker. That mystery would have to be unraveled by additional polling to see if there is an opportunity to change these folks' votes. It very well could be that these voters' attitudes cannot be changed if, for example, they simply dislike recall elections. Still, even as Romney targets these voters, so too will Obama, so it will not be easy to changes these voters' support for Obama.

The second reason is that the recall electorate is different than what will likely be the November general election.

The total number of votes cast in the recall election was about 2.5 million, while about 3.0 million voters were present in 2008. Among those that chose to sit out the recall election are strong Democratic constituencies. In comparison to the 2008 exit polls, persons age 18-29 composed 16 percent of the recall electorate, while in 2008 they were 22 percent. Minorities constituted 9 percent of the recall electorate, and 11 percent of the 2008 electorate.

The presence of these Obama supporters in November will further tilt the balance evident in the exit polls in an Obama direction.

Additional polling would need to be done to determine why these key Democratic groups sat out the recall election, but it comes as no surprise. Like clockwork, young people and minorities vote at lower rates in state and local elections.

Certainly, these state and local elections affect all peoples' lives more directly, but for various reasons these groups do not perceive these elections as being as important as the presidential election. When the hand on the clock ticks to the general election, turnout among these groups will likely rise.

Of course, all of this is a snapshot of the Wisconsin recall electorate as of June 5, 2012. There is still a long way to go in the election. But, if Wisconsin is in play in November, it will likely be because the national mood has shifted towards Romney and there will be major problems for Obama in other battleground states. Wisconsin will perhaps be the least of Obama's worries if that comes to pass.

 
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emiliob6
Marines 66-69 Army retired 72-89
07:32 PM on 06/13/2012
It is beyond comprehension that 1 out of 3 voters voted against their best interest, school teachers, fire fighters and cops who voted for Walker, make me understand WHY ?????
06:10 PM on 06/12/2012
I think this is a hard question because I think it flips a lot. I mean Wisconsin had two Democratic senators which now looks they might have two Republican senators. So, I mean, clearly I suppose you could say its purple. However, the last 5 presidential elections went Democratic. Since 1995 the Republicans have had the House at a State level. Yet, since 1993, the State Senate flips almost every single session. United States house leans Democratic. Yet, Governor leans Republican. So, I think is far to say its PURPLE state. I mean clearly. However, it has been leaning Red, except for Presidential elections.
02:56 PM on 06/07/2012
No is the correct answer.
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CCSTCloud
12:16 PM on 06/07/2012
I live in Madison, so therefore have lived in a cozy liberal bubble. Last weekend I travelled up the "coast" to Green Bay, then back down the central part of the state.... I was flipped off no less than 3 times for displaying a "Obama 2012" bumper sticker on my car. It was then that I realized the recall was going to be a disaster.
03:00 PM on 06/07/2012
What would have happened if you had a "Go Vikings" sticker?
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SallyMaclennane
Yes I did build that!
08:40 AM on 06/07/2012
No....it's now RED!
12:35 PM on 06/07/2012
Ahhh...Sally. I wouldn't make the leap that it is now Red, especially since more than double the amount of Republicans in WI will likely vote for Obama.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/07/us-2012-president-48-obam_n_1577776.html
09:16 PM on 06/06/2012
These would those same exit polls that indicated that the race was a toss-up and "too close to call", until the counting started....
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reasonshouldrule
09:01 PM on 06/06/2012
I certainly hope Professor McDonald is right about this. However, with the voter suppression efforts going on in many states, including Wisconsin, the young and minorities may find it harder--or impossible--to actually vote in November. That' s the greatest danger I see in these conservative initiatives.
03:27 PM on 06/06/2012
If a governor as conservative as Scott Walker can win a recall election in Wisconsin, it is not a purple state, it is a RED STATE. Romney wins Wisconsin in November by 10%.
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wolfsvssarah
04:31 PM on 06/06/2012
LOL, not according to the polls. Besides which by November Walker will be in jail. He's under investigation now. I find it hard to believe that people would vote someone under suspicion of fraud into office, but hey money can buy a whole bunch of votes, and I'd be willing to bet you that The Koch brothers and Carl Rove bought their fair share.
04:37 PM on 06/06/2012
Enjoy the rest of your crack! :)
03:19 PM on 06/06/2012
Yes. its now a toss up. a stunning VICTORY for the people and a defeat for special interest Labor.
03:11 PM on 06/06/2012
Well, I don't know. What's the color of stupid?
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TommyObama
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03:10 PM on 06/06/2012
Some people who like to ticket split (my mother, for example), do so for that feeling of being an "arbiter of fairness", or a tiebreaker. And simply to frustrate power grabs by either party. I don't believe that, having just voted for Walker, these people will be very inclined to vote for Romney. They will proudly announce that they voted for Walker, AND for Obama. Twice each. Crazy, I know, but we can't talk Mom out of voting like this, and I don't suspect she's alone.
02:59 PM on 06/06/2012
Wisconsin has been a democratic-leaning swing state for at least the past 25 years. They've elected both dems and repubs to statewide office, but trend democratic at the presidential level. Gubernatorial elections are almost always separate from senatorial and presidential ones. California recalled Grey Davis, a democrat, as their governor and put a republican in his place, yet I don't see the state tuning purple. Also, states such as Wyoming, Kansas, Oklahoma and Tennessee, among others, have all had popular two-term democratic governors in the past decade but none will be voting democrat at the presidential level any time soon. People need to learn to separate state and federal politics.
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Fushek
02:15 PM on 06/06/2012
There's no way that you can use the exit polling data, that showed a 50-50 tie between Walker and Bennett and feel comfortable with a 51-44 lead for Obama. The 50-50 ended up as 53-46, a seven poing swing that pretty much wipes out that "comfortable" lead. On that alone, I think Wisconsin is purple.

The other items I can agree with. If the youth come out again in droves and the minorities step it up again, Obama wins. Unfortunately for the dems, the enthusiam seems to be down on the youth vote ...

Purple yes ... still in the Obama column, more than likely.
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BillinFla
03:10 PM on 06/06/2012
You seem to have your polling criteria mixed up. "Exit polling" is done as actual voters are leaving the polling place having just voted.

The pre-election polling uses a different methodology to try and determine who will vote.

In none of the pre-election polling the week of the recall did Bennett finish 50-50. The most favorable poll showed him at a 47-50 disadvantage. That's within that poll's "margin of error" of plus or minus 3 points, so some reporters call it "a statistical tie.

Other pre-election polls showed Walker with about a 6-point lead - which is what he finished with. And even that result was still within the margin of error for the most favorable pool as Bennett finished with the 47% the poll predicted and Walker picked up 3 points.

This exit poll showed that 17% of the people who ACTUALLY DID VOTE in the recall said they intended to vote for Obama. That is a different methodology than any other poll currently conducted in the state.

Wisconsin is purple in that it has a Republican governor, one of the houses of the state legislature has a Republican majority, and has one Democratic Senator and one Republican Senator. But as it regards the Presidential contest, Obama's current numbers still give him an edge even if the entire margin of error were to shift to Romney's side.

But it's still very early in the election season to be worrying about these poll numbers.
03:20 PM on 06/06/2012
right. people have had it with Obama. and for good reason.

Odd that this story was not front page on HuffP.......LOL, LOL
04:08 AM on 06/07/2012
And as many people have had it with big money and republican obstructionism.
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Awake-and-Sing
named after a great play written by Clifford Odets
01:18 PM on 06/06/2012
America is a federal system of government and the electorate has been splitting their tickets for years.

Yesterday, two national polls came out giving President Obama an 8-point lead over Romney, larger than his decisive 7-point win over McCain.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/05/us-2012-president-50-obam_n_1571761.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/05/us-2012-president-50-obam_n_1572091.html

Plus, he's 12-points ahead in Pennsylvania.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/06/pa-2012-president-48-obam_n_1574267.html

If anything, Romney will be lucky to only lose as badly as McCain did.
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BillinFla
03:12 PM on 06/06/2012
Don't book your trip for the Inaugural Ball just yet. There's a lot of the election season to come. Romney hasn't even named his VP yet. If you remember, McCain was ahead in the polls as late as September of 2008.
04:43 PM on 06/06/2012
And then he started to lose - why - his VP pick (for one reason). On the flipside, don't be so presumptious to think that Romney's VP pick is going to be your savior.
03:21 PM on 06/06/2012
this is a major defeat for the greedy overpaid government Unions - and its only the beginning.
04:44 PM on 06/06/2012
This is a defeat, yes....do you also believe that the beginning was the Ohio win against their current government? Or, wasn't it the beginning because you didn't win that one?

I bet you're one of those "one in a row," kind of persons, and start counting when the outcome is to your liking.
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reasonshouldrule
09:06 PM on 06/06/2012
And a major victory for the greedy, obscenely wealthy Kochs and friends who are after complete control of the whole country.