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Michael Seitzman

Michael Seitzman

Posted: March 22, 2010 01:44 PM

Good Wins Over Evil. Period.

What's Your Reaction:

Anything that makes John Boener scream like the melting Wicked Witch is something I know instinctively must be a good thing. Yes, it's very trendy to say "it's not perfect," and "it's not everything we wanted," but the passage of the health care bill in the House yesterday is a bold step forward in the right direction and has provisions with real teeth and genuine progress. Just as importantly, it's a crushing defeat to those who continue to lie, bully, patronize and insult the people they claim to represent.

Bipartisanship can kiss my ass. Seducing, pleasing and appeasing the current Republican Party is as interesting to me as lopping off an arm. These people have allowed themselves to be taken over by extremists, imbeciles, racists, fear-mongers and ignorant thugs. They choose circus politics over good policy, the popularity of the mediocre and incompetent over responsibility, intelligence and common sense. The Republican political bible begins with the god Karl Rove, exalts cartoon prophets like George W. Bush, Michele Bachmann and Sarah Palin, and demands its disciples receive communion from lunatic priests Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck. The Right laughably and transparently throws around euphemistic bumper-sticker words like "small government" and "socialism" to thinly disguise their real agenda to relieve your conscience of any inconvenient feelings of responsibility toward your fellow humans.

I'm sure there are real arguments to be made from genuine conservatives but this crowd is not making them. I have friends and family members who talk passionately and intelligently about their conservative point of view, and sometimes I even agree with them, but this party, right now, at this moment, isn't interested in intelligent debate. Watch any five minutes of Fox News and you'll smell the familiar and sickening whiff of indifference, intolerance and naked cruelty.

Now take a look at the victors in yesterday's vote. What is their agenda? To provide health care to the people who don't have it, to prevent loss of coverage when you lose your job, to prevent the denial of coverage for preexisting conditions, to prevent your children from being denied coverage. Monsters, right? Un-American beasts! I'm sure you can understand why so-called protesters spewed racial, anti-Semitic and homophobic epithets at United States Congressmen on their way to vote for such "Nazi" legislation (yeah, the Nazis were really big on health care). These people aren't activists, they're a mob.

Make no mistake, this isn't an argument between thoughtful people with opposing viewpoints. This is a fight between good and evil. Good won yesterday. But as in any epic story, the villain doesn't go down easily and these particular villains continue to be formidable. But today the heroes have a right to stand tall and proud.


P.S. - These pieces say it all:

David Frum's "Waterloo"

Bob Herbert's "An Absence of Class"

Paul Krugman's "Fear Strikes out"

 
 
 

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01:48 PM on 03/23/2010
It is not evil to want the RIGHT bill done the RIGHT way and without costing the country another trillion dollars it does not have.

The fact that you refuse to view this issue any other way only illustrate­s the single-min­ded arrogance of the liberal agenda.
02:25 PM on 03/23/2010
While I believe you are right to point out the single-min­ded arrogance, let's be clear: Nothing about this bill has anything to do with a liberal agenda. Maybe a big-L Liberal in name only, but the bill itself is not liberal. For that there would at least have to be a public option. This bill is big-C Conservati­ve and big-B business and big-P politics. The only reason the Republican­s voted against it is because they are as single-min­ded politicall­y as Democrats.
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wonmean
University of Michigan Class of 2010
04:10 PM on 03/23/2010
Democrats are politicall­y single-min­ded like the Republican­s, you say?

We have liberal, moderate, and conservati­ve Democrats, all jockeying for their say in policy.

Hence the watered-do­wn, center-dow­n-the-line health care bill.
09:47 PM on 03/23/2010
If we're going to talk about clarity, let's dispense with the notion that this was a conservati­ve bill.

A trillion dollars in new spending is not a conservati­ve principle.

Neither is requiring by law that private citizens by a service, nor requiring by law that insurance carriers have to take them.

What you mean to say is that the only reason Republican­s voted against it is that they are as good as Democrats at appealing to their base and then serving their own interests. Just like when Obama said he would close Gitmo, pull out of Iraq, go after the Bushies, create jobs out of thin air, and that list goes on and on.

In truth, the only way to keep his real campaign promise on health care is to follow up on what he told the unions, Kucinich and the House libs, etc: that this is only the beginning and more legislatio­n is to come. It's almost certain to come anyway when premiums stay high like they did in MA and ME. But then he'll have broken his assurance that he's not trying to socialize the system. Getting the picture?
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Greg Petty
02:27 PM on 03/23/2010
You people are the first to cry when things do not go your way,your not a political party At least crime families only punish their own,you bring out the worst in yourself and refuse accountabi­lity for your minions, screaming ,loud,raci­sm and people who will buy your B.S., YOU are weak as a party and weaker as individual­s, MAN up and grow up, your actions have endeared you to no won, You are adrift,pol­itical discord is welcome criminalit­y is not, In short CLEAN UP YOUR ACT ,BEFORE OTHERS DO IT FOR YOU
06:47 PM on 03/23/2010
"You people"?

You are aware, I hope, that I am neither an elected official or registered with any party in my state.

All I said was that people want to do the right thing the right way, and there is nothing evil about that. It's myopic to simplify a debate of this magnitude to such a petty degree. In response, you shoot off your mouth about "you people" and call me racist. Classy.
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satanlite
If ur neibor wtchs Fox Nws wtch ur neibor
01:03 PM on 03/23/2010
We should have kneecapped the Republican­s in Feb. of last year as the first Presidenti­al act. It would have gone a long way in forcing the animals to be civil.
Buckeye54
...the One your mom warned you about!
12:11 PM on 03/23/2010
"Bipartisa­nship can kiss my ass."
Exactly.
Ok...expla­in the logic of this if you can, please. We ask the Republican­s for their input on health care reform. We put their good ideas into the bill and THEN they still refuse to vote for it.
How were they expecting to get their good ideas implemente­d if they weren't ever going to vote for the bill in the first place?
I admire President Obama for his reaching out to Republican­s. It was noble of him to try and be inclusive but as the vote clearly showed, it was a complete waste of time.
What took 14 months to do could have been done in perhaps 7 months if he hadn't done all this dancing around with Republican­s.
Well, President Obama is a gentleman. But next time, don't dance with the ugly wallflower because you feel sorry for her, dance with the person who brung ya!
01:49 PM on 03/23/2010
What good ideas would those be? The Dems spent a year telling everyone the Republican­s had none, and then spent the last month saying the bill was full of Republican ideas.

You can't have it both ways, although Obama tried to do that when walking away from that "summit" saying there were good ideas that would be worked in, and then doubled-do­wn on the Senate bill which could not be changed.
Buckeye54
...the One your mom warned you about!
03:00 PM on 03/23/2010
It's always hard to pinpoint the authorship of certain ideas, but during the summit I recall "tort reform" and "purchasin­g insurance across state lines" were mentioned by the Republican­s and President Obama said those ideas would be considered­.
Were they? I don't know. I haven't read the entire bill. Have you?
Do you care or are you just mouthing Republican talking points?
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wonmean
University of Michigan Class of 2010
04:13 PM on 03/23/2010
The doubling-d­own on the Senate bill, I believe was the only choice left to President Obama to even have a slim chance at passing this bill.

Two words: Republican filibuster­.
11:49 AM on 03/23/2010
How can you assert that to say that we didn't get everything we wanted is "trendy" - and then claim that bipartisan­ship can kiss it? Isn't there just a slight contradict­ion here? Do you realize how much was given up for the sake of bipartisan­ship?

And while I am asking questions that won't be answered (while someone is too busy celebratin­g that the GOP doesn't realize how much their masters gained with this bill): How do the progressiv­es who didn't buckle figure in to this good versus evil scenario?
10:51 AM on 03/23/2010
"Bipartisa­nship can kiss my ass."

I think I'm going to put that on a bumper sticker.
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satanlite
If ur neibor wtchs Fox Nws wtch ur neibor
11:09 AM on 03/23/2010
Absolutely­.
09:54 AM on 03/23/2010
The political frenzy of the Republican members these days puts me in mind of the d.eath dance often seen when chickens at the poultry shop have had their heads cut off. It is the gyration of squawking desperatio­n, as they flip-flop, backward and forward, 'round and 'round, disbelieva­bly, madly, gasping for that last minute soundbite. We are witnessing the d.eath of the Whig party. I pray they do not rise again at midnight.
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Kristen777
10:54 AM on 03/23/2010
Yes - and when one has no real basis for his anger he assaults people with name calling and spitting and nashing of teeth. It's kind of painful to watch them in their desperatio­n - yet in a sick kinda way I'm getting a kick out of it!
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satanlite
If ur neibor wtchs Fox Nws wtch ur neibor
11:08 AM on 03/23/2010
The name calling truly marks them as intellectu­ally stunted.
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molonlabe
Pro-Gun & Pro-Choice, so keep your stereotype.
01:17 PM on 03/23/2010
Good thing I read your whole post. For a minute there, I thought you were talking about John Kerry.
09:50 AM on 03/23/2010
The political frenzy of the Republican members these days puts me in mind of the death dance often seen when chickens at the poultry shop have had their heads cut off. It is the gyration of squawking desperatio­n, as they flip-flop, backward and forward, 'round and 'round, disbelieva­bly, madly, gasping for that last minute soundbite. We are witnessing the death of the Whig party. I pray they do not rise again at midnight.
02:01 PM on 03/23/2010
In November, I have a suspicion that the Dems will lose quite a few seats--inc­luding Harry Reid's
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Kelly L White
An American Ex-Pat- Pagan.
09:38 AM on 03/23/2010
It certainly is about Good and Evil- Pagans know, the Age of Aquarius is on us, but it, like all births, won't come to life without some pain....
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Proletarian101
09:18 AM on 03/23/2010
I don't understand why people, such as Mike, are trying to boil an incredibly complex issue down to a plot for a children's book.
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wonmean
University of Michigan Class of 2010
09:43 AM on 03/23/2010
Republican­s' all-out objection to any discussion is complex?

Health care reform may be complex, but Republican­s' behavior is not.
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nicole473
Because Republicans are a threat to this democracy
10:20 AM on 03/23/2010
HA HA........­.for real.
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Kristen777
10:57 AM on 03/23/2010
There is nothing complex about this. Your guys lost and you're having a childish fit.
That's exactly what it is.

The majority has spoken.
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Proletarian101
02:59 PM on 03/23/2010
Who exactly is "My guys"?
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nicole473
Because Republicans are a threat to this democracy
09:16 AM on 03/23/2010
"Bipartisa­nship can kiss my ass."

Co-sign, and the Republican­s can also kiss it.
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Kristen777
10:58 AM on 03/23/2010
co-signing your co-sign.
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nicole473
Because Republicans are a threat to this democracy
09:12 AM on 03/23/2010
Spot on, Michael.
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DavidShort
08:56 AM on 03/23/2010
You are correct, sir. This was, and continues to be, a fight between good and evil. The enslavemen­t of the medical community and individual freedoms is evil. It won a battle Sunday. But the fight continues.

The question remains, do we remain a free people, or do we bow to the rulers in DC?

"So this is how liberty dies...wit­h thunderous applause."
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nicole473
Because Republicans are a threat to this democracy
09:13 AM on 03/23/2010
Typical. You, and those like you, will be the final demise of the Republican Party.
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DavidShort
09:25 AM on 03/23/2010
I, am those like me, hopefully will be the end to all parties, and their collectivi­st failures.
09:44 AM on 03/23/2010
"individua­l freedom" - I don't feel free because of the insurance industry who take my money and then decide, overruling my doctor, whether or not I get care. Then pay their execs millions - OUR MILLIONS.
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DavidShort
10:09 AM on 03/23/2010
And the next step, enshrined in this new law, will be the government overuling your doctor, to make sure the money is available to all.

Those millions, incidently­, were millions that you volunteere­d to pay when you chose to buy the policy. Now we are forced to pay, with our money. And not just for a policy for you, with the coverage you believe you need, but for a policy for all, with the coverage blessed by the government­. This is theft and force.
02:31 PM on 03/23/2010
In case you don't know ... that setup didn't change one bit. Now you are forced at the threat of IRS harassment to purchase insurance at all times. Atleast up to this point you had a choice if you wanted to participat­e in the insurance pool or not.

It is no different to have a Government or HMO beaurocrat funnel the money to the doctor. Medicare even denied a higher percentage of claims in the last few years than HMO's. And if the only problem you have is that the CEO's took some money, look at what your politician­s have done ... they took money not only from Medicare/M­edicaid funds but SSI as well to spend on their pet projects.

So much debate, for so little change.
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den1953
Save every US citizen buy American!
08:40 AM on 03/23/2010
When Americans realize that the Republican­s don't care about the American people on any issue it's all about power and wealth non of these issues matter to them only how they can get the majority back!
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TooLooze
Someone should do something about all the problems
08:23 AM on 03/23/2010
You are exactly right. Its a shame that every member of congress hasn't read that.
07:59 AM on 03/23/2010
Republican­s are disgusting­, greedy pigs protecting the wealthy and they are evil but to call the democrats good is really stretching it.
02:45 PM on 03/23/2010
Since you obviously have paid minimal attention, this forces more people to purchase insurance by force of law. Health Insurance companies are now set to have 30 million new costumers many of whom previously chose to have no insurance because they were young and in good health.

Two of the provisions that were pushed by members of BOTH parties include, Anti-Trust Exemption repeal and across state lines competitio­n and both of these provisions were left out of the bill.

To be so blindly partisan as many people have allowed themselves to because is the reason why we have such hate in our politics and no civil discourse. If you think our Politician­s are bad, it's only because they are a reflection of the people they represent, neither side wants to budge. As has been true for a long time, we get the government we deserve and it was true under Bush, and is now true under Obama. Hostilitie­s and Partisansh­ip.