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Michele Bachmann Marriage Pledge Loses Her a Young Conservative

Posted: 07/17/11 03:17 PM ET

Michele Bachmann, meet Ben Haney.

In other circumstances, Ben could have been a real asset to your campaign. He's a 28-year-old Republican with experience as a traveling advance man for John McCain and Sarah Palin in 2008. Ben was born and raised in the critically important suburbs of Philadelphia. Having taught government at a high school, Ben now runs his own real estate investment company and co-owns a bar in Old City. In fact, one of his business partners is Rob McElhenney, star and creator of the TV show It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia.

Ben was raised Catholic. He was educated by the Jesuits at St. Joseph's Prep and graduated from Notre Dame after spending a semester interning for Sen. Richard Lugar (R., Ind.) in Washington. Ben comes from a great family and I can personally attest to his character. For two summers he interned for my talk-radio program (on a station that then featured conservative icons Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh, and Sean Hannity). I will never forget the day he jumped unsolicited into his car and drove three hours to the nation's capital to stand in line and pay his respects to President Ronald Reagan as the Gipper lay in state -- all while providing my listening audience with live reports.

Ben is troubled by your signing of a 14-point pro-marriage pledge at the request of the Family Leader, an Iowa social conservative group. It's not only the part about black kids being better off under slavery than they are today that caught his eye. (Yes, he knows that language was dropped after you signed the pledge.) It's the verbiage about sexuality being a choice.

You signed a document that challenges the belief that sexuality is predetermined. The Family Leader pledge laments that marriage is "debased" by, among other things, an "antiscientific bias which holds, in complete absence of empirical proof, that nonheterosexual inclinations are genetically determined, irresistible, and akin to innate traits like race, gender, and eye color."

See, my friend and former intern Ben is gay. And he never made any such choice.

Your thinking is nothing new and it runs in your family.

In 2004, at the National Education Leadership Conference, you said of the gay lifestyle: "It's a very sad life. It's part of Satan, I think, to say this is gay. It's anything but gay."

Then there's your husband, Marcus, who obtained his Ph.D. by virtue of a correspondence course. He runs a mental-health clinic but, according to Politico, is not registered with any of the three state boards that certify mental health practitioners. (Minnesota is one of the only states in which you can practice mental health without a license.) Last year, when asked during a radio interview about parenting homosexual children, he said:

We have to understand: barbarians need to be educated. They need to be disciplined. Just because someone feels it or thinks it doesn't mean that we are supposed to go down that road. That's what is called the sinful nature. We have a responsibility as parents and as authority figures not to encourage such thoughts and feelings from moving into the action steps. . .

Marcus Bachmann has denied that his clinic engages in attempts to "pray away the gay," but ABC's Nightline recently aired an interview with a man who said that, at age 17, he sought help from Bachmann & Associates and: "path for my therapy would be to read the Bible, pray to God that I would no longer be gay."

Naturally, Ben, a proud Notre Dame alum, doesn't appreciate the reference to the devil, nor being compared to barbarians. His life is anything but "sad," and there are a number of things he thinks you should know.

First, he's always known he was gay. "I've always known something was different," he told me. "Coming out is more a process of accepting yourself than anything else."

Second, there is nothing in his background that caused this. He is part of a conservative family and attended a Catholic high school and college -- an upbringing that he says did nothing to "promote being gay."

And he wonders who exactly you think would "choose" to be gay, given the myriad personal, emotional, and legal issues that a homosexual lifestyle introduces.

"If you could simply choose who you were sexually attracted to," Ben wondered, "wouldn't you choose the path of least resistance? Being gay creates problems and obstacles in life that no one would willingly choose."

Yet despite these obstacles, Ben still believes that once the predisposition toward sexuality is understood as being just that, the basis for the discrimination he faces as a gay man will dissipate.

"Thankfully we live in a country that, for the most part, does not permit discrimination against those things a person cannot control. We don't tolerate bias based on race, or gender, or disabilities, because people don't choose these fates," Ben said.

"Sadly, obstacles remain in regards to sexuality due to ignorance by many toward the gay community. Once there is a realization that gays are normal members of their families and society who just want a chance to live their lives like anyone else, we're one step closer to equality."

Ben also has a political observation he wishes to share. Signing a pledge that says he and others chose their sexuality, your husband's equating homosexuals with barbarians, and attempts to pray out of one's sexual preference are shortsighted and show your naivete about winning the presidency.

Such beliefs may win you the votes for the Republican nomination, but they all but guarantee that you will not win the moderate voters who continually decide presidential elections. To them and most of the nation, your positions are out of touch, insulting, and downright flaky.

This post first appeared in the Philadelphia Inquirer.

 
 
 
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professor
Correkt the Spelling and Pick on the Moniker
10:43 PM on 07/24/2011
I thought this guy used to be one of those loud-talking abusive AM radio shylls.

This article might sound reasonable. But it is just this shyll's advice to the Republican National Committee. Pay it no mind. Let us hope lots of the great young clueless unwashed go for notjub in a big way.
10:23 PM on 07/24/2011
Very well said. Bachmann scores points by preaching to the faithful, but seems to go out of her way to alienate rational conservatives like me.

I do wish the media would start asking her, and all the other, the hard questions. Don't let them dodge and deflect. I want answers!
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MMMMarilyn
08:42 PM on 07/24/2011
People like Bachmann have to alter reality to fit their warped view of the universe.
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Catch 22
Plan for Mid to Long Term.
08:24 PM on 07/24/2011
As I was out today, I saw a flock of Canada Geese, blocking a lane on a secondary road. The traffic was at a standstill. As I took a closer look, I realized one of the geese had been struck by a passing car, and about five others were standing there in the driving lane fussing over the wounded bird. It made me realize that animals sometimes show more compassion to their own, than we humans do. It's a sad testament to our world today.
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Johnagain
WTFWJD?
08:02 PM on 07/24/2011
Young conservative. An oxymoron. Or at least it should be. If one is conservative (socially) when they're young, it means the open-mindedness, curiosity, hopefulness, and idealism of youth never touched them. I can't wait to see what these people are like when they're in their 50s when all youthful energy and optimism are gone. Nihilism is their next step I suppose.
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TraceyES
09:02 PM on 07/24/2011
I had Conservative leanings when I was in my teens and early 20s.

Luckily, I recovered.
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liberalarmyfamily
let them eat blue velvet cake!
10:44 AM on 07/25/2011
when you're young you're more self centered. You want to hold on to your money or you may listen to your parents. You are not as educated either. As you mature, hopefully you realize that the world isn't all about you. Or at least that is kind of what I've witnessed.
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Johnagain
WTFWJD?
11:13 AM on 07/25/2011
That makes a lot of sense. I guess much of this is culturally defined too. A look at the TV shows, music, and celebrities that occupy kids' attention today gives a clue as to why they can be so materialistic and prone to retain their adolescent self-absorption well into adulthood.
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UnqleFungus
Let's agree to be respectful even when we disagree
07:38 PM on 07/24/2011
I have a lot of compassion for Michelle and people who think like her. It must be very hard to be what passes for "conservative" today. The want the world to stand still in time, or better yet, go backward in selective ways. And yet they know that change always comes. Their cause is doomed, because time will leave them behind. All they can do is grasp at strands and shreds of what they think might have been. It is sad - pathetic really - to watch them struggle in vais for some fantasy world that never was, and never can be.
mountaingal
Liberty and justice for all.
07:12 PM on 07/24/2011
I really wonder just how serious Bachmann is about this race or is she just pulling a Palin? She won't get any moderates or Dems and perhaps only 60% of GOP votes. I think she is angling for speaking tours and a Fox Un-News program to rake in millions. Running for president is a step to higher speaking fees and her small but adoring fans will support her.
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Richard McRae
I fan awesome people.
08:15 PM on 07/24/2011
I have no doubt that she's not seriously trying to get into the presidency - she's just trying to get the $100k+ speaking fee Palin gets as she tours.
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Richard McRae
I fan awesome people.
05:55 PM on 07/24/2011
It's always amazing to me that humans can call themselves mammals, but not think they are biologically animals. More englightened to be sure, but we are just highly-evolved animals. Considering that there are over 30,000 species of animals that have homosexual members it's hard to argue that homosexuality is unnatural.
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lisalulu
I stand for Planned Parenthood.
07:38 PM on 07/24/2011
F/F Diversity if life!
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UnqleFungus
Let's agree to be respectful even when we disagree
07:43 PM on 07/24/2011
A religious friend of mine recently asked, "If God dislikes gays so much, why does he keep making so many?"
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Zilo
Indie--The GOP opposes critical thinking
08:53 PM on 07/24/2011
I guess that's why most religious people still make the "argument" that gays are gay by choice. Because otherwise they'd have to admit that their god made gay people and yet they (the religious) hate god's creation...I have to admit..it's one of the few arguments they've kind of thought through, at least on the surface of it.Now when you get beneath that, you realize it's still a severely flawed argument at best.
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commentsareus
05:31 PM on 07/24/2011
The letter from this guy needs to be sent to michele bachmann's brother Gary Amble meteorologist from Kansas City, KCTV5 More in the Morning Show and The noon weather.. He said in a recent interview that when he sees his sister they only talk about family matters not politics.. way to put your head in the sand Gary! I don't think I will be watching your weather report from now on, or the news station that carries you.. By the way bachmann's own step sister is openly gay and calls Michele publicly on her virulent bigotry why can't you Gary?
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Rider3
Do the right thing, and you will never regret it.
05:24 PM on 07/24/2011
"Minnesota is one of the only states in which you can practice mental health without a license."

WHAT THE WHAT? This is so scary and dangerous, not only to the individual, but to society as well. Wow...
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UnqleFungus
Let's agree to be respectful even when we disagree
07:31 PM on 07/24/2011
It explains a couple things.
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maxfax
Taa - dah!
04:22 PM on 07/24/2011
When will Americans begin to understand how any of these so-called pledges are against the very Constitution Congress swears to uphold?
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Ktbu Lfu
Tired of people making fun of my micro-bio
04:02 PM on 07/24/2011
"Out of touch, insulting and downright flaky"

Simply and succintly put and absolutely right on.
04:00 PM on 07/24/2011
Bravo! Is the author really a radio host? Seems far too reasonable.
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MmeFlutterbye
Mmeflutterbye
05:00 PM on 07/24/2011
Well, he's toward the liberal persuasion, but not rabid. That may be one of the reasons he makes sense.
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Johnagain
WTFWJD?
08:08 PM on 07/24/2011
Smerconish is like a number of other high profile right wing pundits who has shifted ever so slightly as of about the time Obama was elected to a more liberal viewpoint on many subjects, particularly the social ones that the Republicans are taking down a dead-end path. I think he's just doing what he thinks will keep him in the pundit business longer. It's hard to tell what his real views are, but I'd put him in the same category as David Brooks. A right winger millionaire, who wants to stay that way.
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sillylittleme
humble cosmos shaker
03:30 PM on 07/24/2011
Great article. Listening to our youth will ensure that the world we leave them is one they want to live.
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anelder
04:11 PM on 07/24/2011
As historian, darn forgot his name, on Zaheera's show today stated, he is full of hope for the future because of the young he sees daily in his teaching and lecturing circuit.

I wholeheartedly agree that my grandchildren are smarter and far more accepting than their elders. So glad I'm around to see this happening.
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MmeFlutterbye
Mmeflutterbye
05:14 PM on 07/24/2011
McCulloch, I think is his name. I, too, was encouraged by what he said. It made for a nice Sunday morning. He mentioned the Great Depression and our wars which he said were much worse than our present experience. I lived through the G.Depression...not pleasant. There were beggars knocking at out door many times every day asking for a penny or for food. It was MUCH worse than today's experience. For the most part, our leaders were trying to remedy the situation. I don't recall that they were preparing for the next election spewing the rhetoric that is so popular nowadays instead of working on giving people a hand up. They really helped us. The WPA improved roads, made our national parks into something we can be proud of...and so many other things that I don't remember right now. Best of all, in 1937 Social Security came into being. Those beggars that came to our doors or who died overnight of starvation or disease in some alley would have done well with something like that. I look at our inexperience, vocal,greedy Congresspeople who want to take us back to those "good old days" and I feel so very sorry that we might have to start all over again instead of building on what it took us so many years to acquire.
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Steamboater
Forget hope. Agitate.
02:53 PM on 07/24/2011
The majority of the voting populace already gets it. Bachmann has migraines and she probably hears voices too.