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11 Reasons Why the Unemployment Crisis Is Even Worse Than You Think

Posted: 09/18/11 08:36 PM ET

President Obama recently addressed the nation during a joint session of Congress and the main theme of that address was the need to create jobs, lots of jobs, millions of jobs. The Great Recession has cost US workers millions of jobs and those jobs have not come back as quickly as they disappeared and in many cases those jobs will never return. According to the Economic Policy Institute, "In total, there are 6.9 million fewer jobs today than there were in December 2007."

That is only a small part of the jobs-hole story, a story that is often ignored, overlooked and oversimplified by mass media.

The media has failed to present the unemployment problem, with all its associated economically devastating consequences, in the manner it deserves. It's possible that unemployment facts and figures don't translate well for advertisers, or they are too cumbersome to present in a two-minute segment. Whatever the reason, the mass media seem to avoid unemployment details as they would avoid describing and filming fresh road kill during a dinnertime newscast. While some excellent blogs clearly explain unemployment data, such as Mish's Economic Trend Analysis, Calculated Risk and Economic Populist, mass media sites are absent.

The unemployment rate remained at 9.1 percent for August. Unemployment to the mass media generally centers on that single point within the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) monthly employment report. There is passing mention of discouraged workers and the underemployed, but the true scale of the jobs crisis is given scant attention considering the magnitude of the problem.

What follows are 11 unemployment details that mass media underreports or ignores completely. This list will not be recalled fondly as a top-10 list of best quarterbacks or favorite vacation retreats would, but it's where the REAL unemployment crisis is exposed.

1. The jobs deficit: That is the total number of jobs lost PLUS jobs that should have been created since the recession began in December 2007; as mentioned above, there are 6.9 million fewer jobs today than at the start of the Great Recession, but that tells only half the tale of the jobs deficit. There is also the matter of creating jobs to keep up with the increase in workforce population. Those new workers include high school and college graduates, and immigrants. The number of jobs that need to be created each month to accommodate new entrants into the workforce ranges from 120,000 - 150,000. Adding together the jobs lost since the recession and the new jobs needed for population growth, the total jobs deficit is estimated to be 11.3 million. A few tax breaks, some targeted workforce retraining and some regulatory relief for businesses are not going to be the forces behind the creation of more than 11 million jobs. A massive effort is required to fill that gaping jobs hole.

2. Filling the jobs deficit: According to EPI: "To fill that gap in three years -- by mid-2014 -- while still keeping up with the growth in the working-age population -- would require adding around 400,000 jobs every single month. To fill the gap in five years -- by mid-2016 -- would mean adding 280,000 jobs each month. By comparison, over the last three months, the economy added just 35,000 jobs, on average."

It's striking that the economy has created only 105,000 jobs during the past three months. When considering only the new entrants to the workforce, such as recent college graduates, that three-month span produced a shortage of 270,000 or more jobs.

3. The Birth/Death Model: This is not births and deaths of people, but of businesses. The BLS estimates how many jobs were created or lost by business formations or closings. In August, the BLS estimated that 87,000 jobs were created by new businesses.

This is an often discussed employment barometer at many economy centered blogs, but mass media pays it meager attention. Why is that so? It's a complicated model that can make the head spin of even the most astute employment expert. But there appears to be agreement that the model has a tendency to misread the economic cycle, as Calculated Risk points out, "A few years ago several people -- myself included -- pointed out that the birth/death model would miss turning points in employment. I thought the model would overstate the number of jobs added as the economy slid into recession (and understate the number of jobs lost monthly during a recession). Sure enough that is what the annual benchmark revision showed during the employment recession."

To illustrate just how wide this model can be off the jobs mark, Bloomberg shows that 824,000 jobs "disappeared" after a birth/death model adjustment in February 2010. That adjustment is important because if it was known that job creation was weaker by 824,000 jobs during 2009, additional job creation efforts could have been considered. At present job creation is stagnant and we won't know what role the birth/death model has on today's job numbers until 2012. But if history is any guide, job creation may again be overstated.

4. JOLTS (Job Openings Labor Turnover Survey): This monthly BLS report gives an indication of the number of available jobs. On the occasion that it is mentioned by the media, it offers only a sliver of the issue, such as the number of unemployed per job opening, which stands currently at 4.3.

From the BLS, "The number of job openings in July was 3.2 million, little changed from June. Although the number of job openings remained below the 4.4 million openings when the recession began in December 2007, the level in July was 1.1 million openings higher than in July 2009 (the most recent trough). "

What is missing from that JOLTS report? Plenty. First, the 4.3 unemployed per job opening is limited to the 14 million U3 unemployed (the 9.1 percent). But those aren't the only unemployed wanting a full-time job. There are the 2.6 million marginally attached workers, 8.8 million underemployed (those who want full-time work, but are working part-time). I'm not going to include the 3.9 million non-unemployed unemployed (explained later). When those 11.4 million workers are included with the 14 million U3 unemployed, there are 25.4 million workers and 3.2 million jobs, or 8 unemployed or underemployed workers per job opening.

The second issue with JOLTS is that it doesn't distinguish whether the available jobs are full-time or part-time. According to a BLS representative "Part-time jobs are included in our job openings counts; however, we do not distinguish between full and part-time positions. We only ask if the position exists, not which type of position it is."

It's important to know how many job openings are part-time, since part-time jobs usually pay less and offer fewer, if any, benefits. Extrapolating from the BLS "Employed persons by class of worker and part-time status" data, there are 139,627,000 employed workers, of which 27,034,000 are part-timers. More than 19 percent of all workers work part-time. If nearly 20 percent of all available job openings are part-time, there are only 2.56 million full-time jobs for 25.4 million unemployed and underemployed who want full-time work, or 10 workers for each available full-time position; more than double the 4.3 workers per job opening touted by most media outlets.

5. The participation rate: Is, according to the BLS, "The labor force as a percent of the civilian noninstitutional population." Or, more simply, the percentage of the working-age population that is working or is actively looking for a job. The participation rate rose 0.1 percent in August to 64 percent, which is slightly above the 27-year low recorded in July of 63.9 percent.

If more jobs were available would there be more participation? More than likely that would be the case. The mass media very seldom mentions this point, but the participation rate shows the potential number of people waiting on the sidelines for the job market to improve before they jump back in.

A couple of striking graphs of the historical participation rate can be seen at ZeroHedge and BLS.

6. Marginally attached workers: From the BLS, "These individuals were not in the labor force, wanted and were available for work, and had looked for a job sometime in the prior 12 months. They were not counted as unemployed because they had not searched for work in the 4 weeks preceding the survey." I know, it's not an easily digested description, but it's a population of unemployed that want to work, but for various reasons have not looked for work recently. Currently 2.6 million workers are considered marginally attached. If they are included in the unemployment rate, that rate increases from 9.1 percent to 10.6 percent.

7. The underemployed: Who are the underemployed? "The number of persons employed part time for economic reasons (sometimes referred to as involuntary part-time workers). These individuals were working part time because their hours had been cut back or because they were unable to find a full-time job," states the BLS.

The August employment report indicated that underemployment increased from July by 400,000 to 8.8 million. Part-time jobs range in hours from one to 34, any job of more than 34 hours is considered full-time work. That might not be the case in the real world where a full-time job is considered 40 hours, but that is the case according to the BLS.

While some believe that part-time jobs eventually translate into full-time jobs, that hasn't been the case during this recession, as the linked graph from Calculated Risk illustrates. From 2000 to 2008, the number of underemployed ranged between 3 and 4 million. There are currently 4 million more unemployed than at the start of the recession. Businesses would need to see a dramatic uptick in business to place 4 million more part-timers into full-time slots.

The "real" unemployment rate increases to 16.2 percent when the underemployed and marginally attached workers are considered.

8. The not-unemployed unemployed: Yes, there is a point at which the BLS stops considering an unemployed person unemployed. That point is reached when an unemployed person has not looked for a job in the previous 12 months. When asked, the BLS replied, "The 3.9 million individuals not in the labor force that you are referring to responded that they wanted a job, but had not looked for a job in the last 12 months. They are not considered unemployed because they had not actively searched for work in the four weeks preceding the survey." I recall no mention of these 3.9 million from any mass media outlet.

This 3.9 million are the most discouraged of discouraged workers, but if the jobs market was improving, these millions would start to become part of the unemployed once more. If these 3.9 million were added to the "real" unemployment rate (U6) the rate would increase from 16.2 percent to 19 percent. Nearly one in five American workers is either unemployed or underemployed. Why isn't that disturbing fact in the media spotlight every day?

9. The long-term unemployed: These 6.0 million are the jobless who have been looking for work for 6 months or more (this does not include the not-unemployed unemployed). Long-term unemployment receives occasional mass media recognition, but it scratches only the surface. There are subsets of the long-term unemployed that show the depth of the problem more clearly. The 6.0 million long-term unemployed represent 43.1 percent of all unemployed. Of that 6 million, 4.458 million have been jobless for 52 or more weeks and within that group 2.040 million, a record high, have been unemployed for 99 weeks or more (not to be confused with the "99ers" explained below). Even more startling than those numbers is the lack of response by lawmakers.

10. 99ers: These long-term unemployed have exhausted all unemployment benefits (not all unemployed collect unemployment benefits). The name "99ers" comes from the fact that some collected benefits for up to 99 weeks. It's a misnomer in the sense that only about 25 states are eligible for the 99 week maximum; many unemployed exhausted benefits in as little as 60 weeks.

Official statistics are not kept for this unemployed population. When Mish Shedlock of Global Economics Trend Analysis was asked about the 99ers population, he contacted Tim Wallace. Wallace has been digging into long-term unemployment data to try and weed out the number of unemployed who have exhausted all unemployment benefits. His most recent efforts show that, "we can safely assume that 3,058,152 people have exhausted all benefits -- they are no longer covered on either sets of (unemployment) rolls." But it doesn't end there, using some additional Department of Labor data Wallace pries out another 2.0 million 99ers, for a combined 5.1 million.

Other 99ers estimates range from 1.5 to 5.0 million, but as the linked graph at Here come the '99ers at Calculated Risk illustrates; the number of unemployed that are exhausting unemployment benefits is rapidly increasing.

While there may be disagreement about the total population of 99ers, Wallace concludes, "There is absolutely NO EXCUSE for this to not be a readily accessible piece of data daily. After all, Walmart can tell you how many strawberry Pop Tarts they sold yesterday." There is also no excuse for the mass media ignoring this vast unemployed population and not taking agencies to task for not reporting accurate 99ers data.

Millions of additional unemployed will become 99ers immediately unless extended unemployment benefits are renewed in December. A worker laid off today will be eligible for only 26 weeks of state benefits unless an extension is approved by a much divided Congress.

How can an economy function when so many are out of work and have exhausted unemployment benefits?

(To view Wallace's report, go to, How Many Unemployed Have Exhausted All Benefits?)

11. How many unemployed collect unemployment benefits? It may seem reasonable to assume that all 14 million unemployed collect unemployment insurance benefits, but that is not the case. In September 7.17 million unemployed collected benefits, which is only 51 percent of all unemployed (U3, the 9.1 percent).

Surprisingly, on average just one third of all unemployed are eligible for unemployment benefits at the state level (2011 data). As an example, temporary staff, self-employed and recent high school and college graduates may be out of work, but not eligible for benefits. Eligibility rates range from 57 percent in AK and PA to TX at 21 percent. Each state can set its own guidelines regarding eligibility requirements. When someone tells you they are unemployed, it's more than likely they are not collecting unemployment benefits.

Many pundits and some GOP lawmakers excoriate all unemployed for being lazy and enjoying life on the dole. Sen. Jim DeMint (R-SC)recently said, "People are gaming the system and refusing to take jobs because they get unemployment benefits and food stamps." That naïve and cruel assessment disparages all unemployed, but it's particularly insulting to the majority of unemployed who aren't eligible to collect or have exhausted unemployment benefits. If Sen. DeMint and his ilk want to see where the system is being gamed, he may want to look at Wall Street instead of Main Street.

What message can be taken from this list of realistic and discomforting unemployment figures? The bottom line is that unemployment is much worse than the 9.1 percent unemployment figure pushed by the media and many lawmakers; in fact it's considerably worse.

Mass media's inability to communicate the depth of the jobs crisis is one reason the response to it has been primarily weak and ineffectual. If the media mutes the crisis, lawmakers and corporations will continue to act slowly and impotently, forcing millions of American families to suffer needlessly.

Unemployment and jobs creation are national emergencies demanding focused attention with a wide-ranging and rapid response. This American jobs disaster will not vanish if neglected, but what will vanish are the hopes, dreams and financial well-being of millions of hard-working Americans.

This was first published at AlterNet.org.

 

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11:30 AM on 09/26/2011
Good Article... I find it interesting that no one is looking further ahead though. Unemployment will continue to rise for two undeniable reasons; technology will never stop advancing, and the human population will never stop reproducing (doubling and tripling death rates). No one can factually argue these two points and they are going to continue to be problematic until dramatic innovation/reform is implemented or at least recognized and acknowledged. I wrote an article (The Promise of Unemployment) about this topic on my personal site, but I'm just an interested citizen, not some prolific writer/researcher that has any clout.
If you consider the unbelievable resources being used, economies still diving, dysfunctional governments, uneducated populations, progressive technology advancements, and uncontrollable human reproduction/agriculture, you've have very little to argue about concerning the promise of future job growth. I think we'll find ourselves in a more modern tribal setting, producing and supplying in small/local economies as described in Beyond Civilization by author and profound philosopher Daniel Quinn. At any rate, I won't run everyone off with those deep of thoughts and perspectives, but I thought I'd mention the topic if you might find it interesting to investigate. It's a very legitimate discussion we should all be having, may be not for ourselves, but for our children and grandchildren sake.
Everyone make it a great day!
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11:02 PM on 09/24/2011
when will they write an article that explains what to do when your unemployment insurance runs out.i have been out of work for nine months.have filled out close to 400 applications.have been interviewed on some of them 2 or 3 times still no job.what do you do when i run out of money
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Democrats create jobs and build strong economies
03:03 PM on 09/24/2011
There comes a point where this country simply has to look out for our own best interest. This includes laying tariffs on foreign goods such as Walmart stocking the majority of its shelves with cheap Chinese crap. The government needs to pressure Walmart to replace a majority of this with American made goods. The government needs to strictly purchase American products. The government needs to heavily tax penalize corporations that outsource jobs instead of providing them with tax benefits. The government needs to tax reward corporations who replace outsourced jobs with American citizen hiring, including giving corporations 6 months worth of unemployment payments. Finally the government needs to invest in new technology manufacturing, alternative energy manufacturing, and just straight manufacturing again.
11:11 PM on 09/22/2011
People say that all we have to do is buy american, or lower taxes, etc. I don't think we appreciate the true extent of the problem. Automation in both the blue and white collar industries is increasing exponentially, eliminating a good chunk of our unskilled jobs. Even if we took our jobs back from china, it would only delay the inevitable. There will be no demand for he unskilled, and they will all have to be on welfare. it would be incredibly unwise to cut this, as doing so will lead to starvation and civil war.
01:12 PM on 09/21/2011
This is a great article and makes a lot of sense. Yes quit understating the magnitude of the problem,buy american made products,take away the tax loopholes for the rich and corporations,modify our trade agreements to our benefit for a change,close our borders to immigration until we get a handle on our affairs ,tone down our wars ( again close our borders to stop terrorists from coming in ),bring back small businesses and most of all elect people into office that act like adults and have the ----- to tackle these problems and bring lasting change that benefits all of the people .And most of all come together from all walks of life american helping american .We are the greatest country in the world and the principles that we stand for are even greater.If we don,t get over our greed,ignorance and inaction then we will come apart from within and then where will we be,all of us.
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03:05 PM on 09/24/2011
It's sad, but only the great destroy themselves. It's not even China and the other countries that will destroy us, but our own greed and stupidity that will destroy ourselves. Really sad that we are all watching it happen, but nobody is doing anything to stop it.
12:00 PM on 09/20/2011
Why doesn't this article address one of the biggest root causes of unemloyment, underemployment, poverty, and welfare which is outsourcing of US manufacturing workers and service jobs.

All anyone has to do to prove the disaster of outsourcing is compare unemployment statistics prior to free trade agreements that made no provisions to limit unbalanced trade and todays high unemployment.figures and poverty levels.

Then compare the average salaries of both periods adjusted for inflation, plus the fact that 42 perceint of US workers no longer make enough to qualify to pay any Federal Income taxes and millions receive tax credits to suppliment their poverty incomes.All at the same time poverty rates are increasing in the USA to the highest level in history.

All they free trader proponents claim that free trade creates more jobs than it destroys in the USA, yet all the items I mentioned show contrary when the actual statistics are presented side by side. For example, an average American family saves $2300 a year by buying cheaper imported products. The trade off is that 30 million US workers lost their $40,000 dollar a year manufacturing jobs, plus the millions more US service workers jobs were outsourced service to India, and now the displaced US workers make $25,000 or less a year by working two part time jobs without benefits and now exisit on the government dole..

What a great trade Congress negotiated for US workers.
07:41 PM on 09/20/2011
While you make some excellent points, the reason that none of that was mentioned in this article is because that simply wasn't the point of this article.

There's nothing in here at all about CAUSES of unemployment, he just wanted to clarify why unemplyment data touted by most media outlets doesn't really represent the gravity of our unemplyment situation, although it is caused in large part by the reason(s) you mentioned.

A whole additional article, or even a 1000-page research paper, could probably be written addressing the causes of this unemployment mess.
09:37 PM on 09/20/2011
I don't agree that a 1000 paper is necessary. If you set up a flow chart and start with outsourcing US workers manufacturing and service jobs, and then start attaching lines to the ramifications of 30 million US workers jobs salaries being either eliminated or downgraded, the final line will be apparent. No job, no money, no new housing boom, no appliance sales and low tax revenues equals Fed Deficits.
Then add expenses like unpaid wars, welfare, and interest payments on the debt equals no money to invest in education, plants, modern equipment, technology. hope for future opportunity.

That can all fit on a one page flowchart in my humble opinion.
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08:34 AM on 09/20/2011
People wonder why banks, except for their mortgage lending, are doing well. The reason for it explains the high jobless rate. For years Americans spent instead of saved. In 2008 individual Americans averaged a debt to income ration of 111%. Today, after massive deleveraging and foreclosure it is only down to 108%.

Instead of buying items which are not truly necessary, most working Americans are paying down their debts as quickly as they can. Many families have been hit by the recession but not fatally. One member is now working only part time or not at all while another is still full time. This means there is no cash for discretionary spending, but basic expenses are being met.

The results of our predictable lost decade will be many individuals coming out of it much more fiscally sound than they were going in. A paper loss in the value of your house means absolutely nothing if you can buy as good or better a home for whatever your house sells for in the current market. Especially if you have little or no other debt than a mortgage and have accrued 6 months living expenses worth of cash in savings.

The downside of people not spending is, quite simply, job loss. We may have to find a way of living as a country which is not based on every family member working.
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12:47 AM on 09/20/2011
http://www.epi.org/publication/webfeatures_viewpoints_global_strat_labor/
A Global Strategy for Labor

"The overwhelming majority of people in this world must work in order to live. The definition of Labor in the global marketplace includes those who are unionized and those who are not. It includes those who work in cities and those who work on farms. It includes those both in the formal and informal sectors. It includes those who work at home and small business people who live by exploiting their own labor. It follows that full employment, adequate wages, and a healthy environment ought to be the common sense goals of global economy.

But the global marketplace, like all markets, is built on a set of rules. Indeed, according to a former director-general of the World Trade Organization (WTO), the rules of the WTO represents the “constitution” of the new global economy. The current rules of the global market — those of the WTO, the International Monetary Fund (IMF), the World Bank, and other global regulators — were not established to promote the dignity and well-being of Labor. They were established to protect the interest of those who invest for a living, at the expense of those who must work.

Investor Protectionism

The investor protectionist policies imposed by those who set the rules for the world’s commerce include trade de-regulation, privatization, weakening of collective bargaining and financial liberalization..."
10:45 PM on 09/19/2011
Yes a very good article and dead on. This just shows how shallow the media really is. It also shows what a poor job are politicians are doing in understanding and stating the the problem and then trying to address it.

We are the sound bite generations and equally the sound bite solutions, which provide no real solutions. Just put forth to win votes, not help the country.
07:46 PM on 09/20/2011
You are probably mostly right on your assessment, although sometimes I get the feeling the media is trying to downplay the situation so as not to create mass panic. Although, there are certainly plenty of alarmist media outlets that would jump at the chance to make something sound worse or as bad as possible (it increases their ratings), so it is probably much more likely that most of the media and politicians simply don't understand the numbers... unfortunately for us. :-/
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09:35 PM on 09/19/2011
Thanks for a great article MIke, you are always right on the mark. However, there is something all of us can do beginning today that will absolutely improve the unemployment picture in America. Question is, will we do it?
Let's say 300,000,00­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­0 Americans each simply reallocate­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­d 1 dollar per day, spending 1 dollar less on foreign-ma­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­d­­e goods, 1 dollar more on American-m­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­a­­d­­e goods. That's only $30 per month, per person, and it is NOT an extra $30 per month, but just WHERE you spend it! After a year, this would add up to $108,000,0­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­­0­­0­­,­­0­­­0­­­0­­­­…­­­­. that is ONE HUNDRED EIGHT BILLION DOLLARS !!!! What could the American economy do with an extra $108 billion? How about 2,700,000 jobs, that’s TWO MILLION SEVEN HUNDRED THOUSAND NEW JOBS paying at least $40,000 per year!
That is just ONE DOLLAR MORE on American made goods. Just think how we could begin to improve our economy we committed $5 MORE or even $10 MORE to American produced goods. Nothing made in America anymore you say? Wrong, please take the time to look at this; www.americansworking.com and www.stillmadeinamerica.com. There are literally thousands upon thousands of products still being manufactur­­­­­­ed in this country but most Americans buy the imports because they cost less and it does take some work and diligence to buy American. We must change our purchasing habits.This is a "Jobs Bill" we all can buy into but we must start today.
07:46 PM on 09/19/2011
Great research and writing as always Mike.
08:41 PM on 09/19/2011
Agree. Don't have time to read the entire article right now, but, I'll come back to it tonite. I've been laid off 3 times since 2007, and have been following Mike Thornton, off and on, for two or three years now. I believe he's very passionate about this long-term unemployment issue. He gives me good information, and HOPE!
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09:26 PM on 09/19/2011
Not much hope in this article, but a great read.
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is this microbiology?
05:43 PM on 09/19/2011
A fine synthesis of all these bits and pieces of the unemployment picture, and one that's long overdue. Maybe new we can start talking about this like it's a disaster, not just a bad patch of luck.
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04:26 PM on 09/19/2011
The media is not about to begin pointing to the glaring hole in our jobs because then it would lead to the revelation that the Emperor Has No Clothes with the last decade of rabid outsourcing. Nafta was only North America, the real mass exodus began with the Singapore and East Indian (Bangalor) Free Trade Agreements passed in 2002 and 2003 respectively.
05:17 PM on 09/19/2011
OMG!!!
That is freaky!
Are you saying that our trade policy or lack of policy has lead us to this point!

Well that is not only accurate but factual.
05:27 PM on 09/19/2011
Good point. It's too bad nobody has tried to link important economic issues to "Tot Mom".

Then we'd get 24 hr. coverage.
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04:05 PM on 09/19/2011
Depressing. Just. Really. Depressing.
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05:18 PM on 09/19/2011
Agree whole-heartedly, Jen. Here's why (for me):

1 - It's a blessing not having all the Not-Sees that usually trash these types of articles and comments turning it into a m@ssacre. All the same, however, 90 comments? That's it? Less than 100 thoughts occur to people after reading this? Or is there TMI, to which I alluded earlier.

2 - The fact MT isn't a household name by now, a major player in this crisis. We've had drive-bys from some caucuses and individuals in elected positions and a few tirades and cursory talking point generalities from politicians, but there isn't ONE ten-penny nail to be found on major network or print media with this information. That is tragic.

3 - That there is "something" in politics today demanding this information be kept quiet. You'd guess some politician trying to just score points for their party would hammer this topic endlessly given the number of eligible voters (from both sides) that are 99ers, unemployed and running out the Tiers, and the underemployed. Why the silence? The numbers will only increase as time passes. No money's spent faster closer to "home" than UI benefits.

4 - For every nasty, degrading post they throw at us here, there isn't ONE of them that will turn in all of the "them bums" for ripping off the system. The DOL provides BIG money for info that leads to charges and convictions. How do trawls know sooooo many 'artistes' and not turn them in?
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zogimperator
is this microbiology?
05:46 PM on 09/19/2011
Very true. This dismal analysis should make headlines everywhere, and we all know it won't.
04:00 PM on 09/19/2011
A 30-hour workweek would speed up the recovery. Just take 25% of the hours that employed people are working and start hiring (and yes training if needed) new people to make up the extra time. In the 1930s companies like Kellogg tried it voluntarily. Today, we probably need some prompting from lawmakers.
04:29 PM on 09/19/2011
I believe France tried this, and it bombed. Big hit on productivity. How can one new employee do 25% of four other jobs? The concept only works when the job is a simple "commodity", say you have 100 ditch diggers, and you want to share the hours with other ditch diggers.

The fact that Kellogg would try this in the 30's, and Keynes would try "stimulus" spending in the 30's too, says how far we've come since then in our understanding of economics.
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zogimperator
is this microbiology?
05:47 PM on 09/19/2011
So what's you solution? Less regulation? Lower taxes?
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07:25 PM on 09/19/2011
Somebody wrote either here or in another article about the unemployment situation just a day or so ago about a similar plan in Germany that worked very well. My sense is that it could work well, but it would need to be implemented over time. I always thought that by the time we were 50 or 60, we'd all be working 30 hour work weeks anyway due to automation. Hah.