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The United Methodist Church Flirts With Creationism

Posted: 03/28/2012 11:00 am

Sometimes, in conflict, important skirmishes arise purely spontaneously while at other times clashes are impeccably planned. Please be advised that the next important battle in the culture wars is scheduled to take place in Tampa. No, not at the Republican convention! The next major battle is coming to Tampa months before the Republicans are arriving. It will take place in late April at the United Methodist Church's Quadrennial General Conference. And like most conflicts in the culture wars, it threatens to move us into the past by a little more than 150 years.

The issue is the relationship between religion and science with what I can only hope to be a small group of United Methodists working to redefine the denomination's position to bring it fully in line with a fundamentalist, anti-science worldview.

The question is, will the 12 million members of this denomination opt to return to the scientific dark ages? Will they turn their collective backs on modern science? While I can't really imagine such an anti-intellectual thing happening, there are forces at work attempting to turn this position into reality. Let me explain.

At the last Quadrennial General Conference, the three following motions passed demonstrating that the United Methodist Church membership understood that religion and science need not conflict and that faith does not define scientific fact:

1. The sentence, "We find that science's descriptions of cosmological, geological, and biological evolution are not in conflict with theology," was added to the section on "Science and Technology" in the Church's Book of Discipline;
2. The Clergy Letter Project and Evolution Weekend were explicitly endorsed by the United Methodist Church; and
3. The Conference adopted a resolution explicitly opposing creationism in all of its forms: "The United Methodist Church goes on record as opposing the introduction of any faith-based theories such as Creationism or Intelligent Design into the science curriculum of our public schools."

I hasten to add that all three of these motions were adopted overwhelmingly.

But now, just four years later, forces are organizing to retract these strong statements. A resolution has been introduced to remove the word evolution from the Book of Discipline. Another has been introduced to retract the endorsement of The Clergy Letter Project and Evolution Weekend. And still a third has been introduced to delete the Church's clear opposition to creationism in the science classroom.

The latter two resolutions were offered by Reverend Gale Shunk from Pennsylvania. He's affiliated with the money-making operation known as Answers in Genesis, the group responsible for the theme park in Kentucky known as The Creation Museum and the group that promotes the belief that humans and dinosaurs playfully cavorted together about 6,000 years ago. Reverend Shunk has explained his position clearly in two essays he published on the Answers in Genesis web page.

In the first of the two, Reverend Shunk makes it clear that he is a young earth creationist who believes "that God created the universe in six solar days." But the good reverend goes further than merely expressing personal opinions that are in opposition to those held by the world's scientific community as well as the teachings of his own denomination. He attacks the very premise of science, the premise that has permitted scientific inquiry to dramatically advance our understanding of the natural world since the scientific method was established. He boldly asserts, "We all would do well to hold on to the changeless eternal Word of God and not put our faith in scientific principles that change constantly when a better theory arises."

The power of science is that all of its conclusions are tentative, open to further investigation and required to be formed in concert with available data. Science has permitted us to make so much progress for the simple reason that we always update our scientific theories as new information arises. But Reverend Shunk criticizes the discipline for its willingness to "change constantly when a better theory arises." Would he have us believe that maggots come from rotting meat, ignoring the theory offered by Louis Pasteur? Or would he have us return to the homunculus theory of human development which stated that fully formed, but very, very tiny, humans were present in each sperm?

In the second of his two Answers in Genesis essays, Reverend Shunk makes the stale argument that evolution should be considered a religion rather than a science: "naturalistic evolution is a belief system itself, not science." Since Reverend Shunk offers little to support his extreme position other than his opinion, I'll not bother to refute his argument other than to offer the following words by conservative judge William Overton, who, in a 1982 ruling, declared it unconstitutional to mandate the teaching of creationism in public school science classes: "it is clearly established in the case law, and perhaps also in common sense, that evolution is not a religion."

What will happen in Tampa? Will the United Methodist Church remain solidly rooted in the 21st century or will it begin a long and fruitless march into the past? You can sit back and watch; I'll keep you informed.

Or you can help shape the future. If you're one of the 12 million members of the denomination, speak up loudly and let your representatives to the Quadrennial Conference know your feelings. There are 998 delegates and you can find out who represents you by contacting your local annual conference office or the United Methodist Church general headquarters.

 
 
 

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01:52 PM on 04/12/2012
The United Methodist Church’s worldview of Darwinian Evolution

My response to Dr. Mark Zimmerman’s Huffington Post article entitled “The United Methodist
Church Flirts with Creationism” attacking my view of the Holy Scriptures and Genesis in particular with such anger and arrogance is as follows. My rationale attached to the petition to take out the Clergy Letter endorsement from the Book of Resolutions and Discipline is simple. Here it is. “The Clergy Letter Project does not address environmental awareness, energy conservation, or “the perils that now threaten the integrity of God’s creation” nor does it reconcile science and Christianity or science and our Wesleyan Doctrinal Heritage, but rather propagandizes and promotes false doctrines of non-Christian religions and cults.” As United Methodist Christian believers our aim is to make disciples for the transformation of the world and to please God the Father. The “Clergy Letter Project” gets us off track with the main business of the United Methodist Church and dishonors our worship of the Triune God. The founding principles and worldview of the “Clergy Letter Project” are not in alignment with the fundamental Constitutional Doctrinal Standard of the United Methodist Church as expressed in our Book of Discipline Doctrinal Standards, Confession of Faith, and Preamble of the Social Principles. Therefore it should be removed from the Book of Resolutions Paragraph # 1027. That is my opinion and, I should be allowed the freedom to express it.
Sincerely, Rev. Dale (not Gale) R. Shunk
April 12, 1012
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Bob Metcalfe
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11:33 PM on 03/30/2012
" scientific principles that change constantly when a better theory arises. "

And this is bad why? Actually the principles of investigation remain the same, it's the conclusions that change. OF COURSE - that's what science does. I bet he won't question that mere theory of gravity :-).
11:41 AM on 03/30/2012
As some other comments have noted, this will probably not make it to the floor for voting at all because it goes against many principles of UMC theology and principles. Namely, the majority of Methodists are not biblical literalists and I personally know of no seminary trained pastors who are and it would be counter to several principles the UMC already has in place that the article noted - a stance against teaching creationism and encouragement of scientific progress. The UMC has a tradition and history of emphasizing the importance of reason and intelligence and I believe I'm with many who don't want to see any such nonsense as this upturn that.
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10:33 AM on 03/30/2012
We, as humans should observe Creation.............................................................................

An artist’s personality can be revealed by his paintings. Similarly, the “invisible qualities” of God, the Designer and Creator of the universe, are clearly seen in creation. (Romans 1:20) When we carefully observe God’s handiwork, we obtain a better understanding of his personality, and he thus becomes more real to us.

If you go beyond casual observation of things created by God, you may be deeply impressed with the reality of his qualities. For example, information about the navigational abilities of birds may well heighten your appreciation of God’s wisdom. In reading about the universe, you may learn that the Milky Way, which is about 100,000 light-years across, is only one of billions of galaxies throughout space. Does that not impress upon you the reality of the Creator’s wisdom?

Certainly, God’s wisdom is real! But what does that mean to you? Well, he surely cannot be perplexed by the problems that any of us take to him in prayer. Yes, even meager knowledge of creation can make God more real to you.
05:11 AM on 03/30/2012
"...We all would do well to hold on to the changeless eternal Word of God and not put our faith in scientific principles that change constantly when a better theory arises."

Christianity is copying Islam's rejection of rationalism which has brought it so much success: http://seanrobsville.blogspot.co.uk/2011/03/civilization-is-west-history-science-by.html
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01:22 AM on 03/30/2012
Creationism is about a God that made earth and man in six days then rested like God needs a rest. And of course humans riding around on dinosaurs. Of course the more liberal Christians don’t really believe in creationism just a God made in their image and a God of unconditional love that demanded a human sacrifice. Not any human but an only Son.

Then we have science better known as materialism scientism; that we exist due to some cosmic accident that cannot be repeated but because enough scientists believe it; it now becomes a fact taught as a fact that cannot be challenged.

This cosmic accident means there is no meaning and purpose to a human life other than what that human gives it meaning and purpose. The human ego loves that one: i.e. look at me at the meaning and purpose I have given to my life, ain’t I special.

Now what caused the universe known as the big bang to these scientists to keep their materialism valid in their minds; well infinite universes created infinite universes. Kind of like the turtles all the way down to hold up the earth.

These are the two choices most Americans make. And we wonder why we are a sinking ship in America?
12:49 AM on 03/30/2012
What could be more compelling to religious people for accepting evolution, than to know that evolution is helping fulfill two of Jesus' major missions – healing the sick, and feeding the hungry?

Just yesterday three UMC scientists posted a letter to one of the Legislative Committees considering an evolution petition saying: “a person who will never work in a pharmacogenetics laboratory can appreciate that the breakthroughs leading to widespread accessibility of a life saving drug, human insulin for human diabetics, would never have occurred without direct application of Darwin's evolutionary laws to the creation of genetically modified bacteria. The same applies to ongoing discovery of desperately needed vaccines, antibiotics and cancer drugs, and to the fields and barnyards where manifold enhancements of agricultural yields over the last 50 years have averted untold starvation and suffering, especially among the poorest and most vulnerable of God's children. The quiet magnificence and beneficence of Darwin's theory is well beyond proof of principle, and so to the extent Christians deny natural truths underpinning scientific evolution, we risk promoting rather than alleviating suffering.”

Which side of the evolution fence would Jesus want his representatives (the United Methodist Church in this case) to be sitting on???
09:55 PM on 03/29/2012
What does it mean to turn your back on science?
Perhaps it means not pledging a vow of loyalty to any theory, pronouncement or hypothesis which is accepted by scientists.
Scary.
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09:38 PM on 03/29/2012
Science is not a belief system, but a tool for understanding the natural world and the universe. Science only considers natural causes for natural events, because, using the tools of science, things that operate OUTSIDE of our universe can't be tested for. Does that mean they don't exist? No. It just means that science isn't the appropriate tool for conducting that inquiry. Religious belief is faith-based, and does not rely on evidence, as science does. How can anyone's faith be threatened by teaching factual information, like evolution, to kids in public school science classes? Creationism belongs in a religious setting, not an educational one.
11:57 PM on 03/29/2012
Saying mere mindless matter could provide "a tool for understanding the natural world ", itself seems ridiculous enough on its face to discard. Efoolusionism is a belief system supported by nothing but the force of its own conjecture and oft repeating in all major media. It is the purest "say-so science" whimsy. Real science deals with sufficient causes for observed effects. Mere minerals, rocks, did not make us, because rocks can't write. They do rock things and are the picture of contentment at it. Jesus made us. Written DNA instructions make our bodies, symbols carefully placed to convey desired meaning. He saw our face and DNA code ordered the matter as directed. Darwin was a creative yarn-spinner. It took him decades the construct the greatest hoax in history, but others augmented the deception. Think seriously; ask questions--there's nothing there but puffery.
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01:40 AM on 03/30/2012
"Saying mere mindless matter could provide "a tool for understanding the natural world ", itself seems ridiculous enough on its face to discard. "

That isn't what I said, though is it? Science methodology is a very stringent way to understand the workings of the natural world. Since you misunderstand/mischaracterize what science actually is, I'm not surprised that you prefer the feel-good mythology of religion. Knock yourself out!

"Real science deals with sufficient causes for observed effects."
Wrong. Real science only accepts natural causes for natural phenomena. That's why creationism will never be considered as anything but pseudoscience.

"Jesus made us."
And your evidence for that is...?

"Written DNA instructions make our bodies, symbols carefully placed to convey desired meaning."
Another misunderstanding. DNA is a "language" in metaphor only.

"Darwin was a creative yarn-spinner. "
And that "yarn" has been supported by over 150 years of evidence.

"Think seriously; ask questions"
There you go--that's how science works!
01:59 AM on 03/30/2012
Well done Quentin, thanks for providing us with a nice example of creationist spin. Well I left toe pro-creationist camp because I kept on noticing lies and deceit. Creationist leaders don't have a choice- they have to lie to make their cases. Saying stuff like "Darwin was a creative yarn-spinner. It took him decades the construct the greatest hoax in history, but others augmented the deception." is unsubstantiated drivel. Do you have any idea just how robustly evolution withstands testing and challenging- now and back in Darwin's time?
As for this oft cited claim that we came from rocks- too much Kent Hovind will melt your mind. He loved to say that evolution teaches we come from rocks.
I suggest folks do some research. Read the other side's claims. Read them from their own writings. I read creationist stuff regularly, nowadays in the ever more vain hope of finding something honest and correct. I often read something by YECSers and think "could this be correct?" and hope it is. I am always disappointed. This saddens me that fellow Christians should be so committed to untruth.
"Think seriously; ask questions--there's nothing there but puffery. "
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06:54 PM on 03/29/2012
Thanks for keeping us all abreast of this kind of thing, Michael.

Feel free to pass on this link to any United Methodist connections you have:

EVOLUTIONARY CREATION
(leading evangelicals who celebrate evolution sharing their "testimonials")
http://EvolutionaryCreation.com

I urge you to listen to even just one or two of the short audio clips. They are FABULOUS!!

Here they all are stitched together in a podcast: http://evolvingfaith.libsyn.com/webpage/6-evolutionary-creation-samples-of-10-episode-audioseries

Enjoy!

~ Michael
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Djay0252
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03:34 PM on 03/29/2012
As a member of the UMC I am not turning my back on science to enter the dark ages. I AM turning my back on the idea that science will solve everything which many people Methodist or not seem to be believing. What i am seeing that as people turn to science they are turning their back on God
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11:34 PM on 04/01/2012
I "turned by back on god", not for science, but for secular humanism (although it was a long time before I could put a name to it). Science is a part of that, but it is not its entirity.

I really don't think its honest to suggest that atheists or agnostics expect science to be everything in their lives. There is still room, even if you accept the truths of science, for spirituality. Just not dogma based religion.
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Djay0252
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10:41 AM on 04/02/2012
secular humanism...another way of saying you fill your world (and garage) with things.......thinking that they will fulfill your life....and they never do.
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02:13 PM on 03/29/2012
It's something to threaten children with: "If you don't learn to tell the difference between what's true, and what you *wish* were true, you will grow up into a young earth creationist!"
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01:27 AM on 03/30/2012
So theories are facts and facts are true meaning truths.

"If you don't learn to tell the difference between what's true, and what you *wish* were true,"

This is a perfect example of theories becoming facts and facts becoming truths in the minds of materialists, exactly like those christians thinking their bible is all truth. amazing how alike religion and scientism have become more alike than different.
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03:45 PM on 03/30/2012
You're missing the crucial difference. In science, an idea that is well-supported by evidence, experimentation, and observation, and has withstood attempts by other scientists to disprove it can be called a "theory", as evolution is. In contrast, creationism offers no evidence supporting it, is not being researched (even among creationists!), and has no explanatory power. If you feel better about accepting wild, unsupported ideas about supernatural beings and dinosaurs and humans hanging out together about 6,000 years ago, no one's stopping you. Just don't try to equate a religiously-based belief system with the extremely efficient methodology of the scientific method that yields new factual information we can actually use to make our lives better.
03:28 PM on 03/28/2012
A Deity is compatible with evolution. There need not be any conflict.
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04:03 PM on 03/28/2012
I fanned you. I like you. But a deity doesn't give answers. It is the answer. Science gives us answers to questions on this Earth. A deity didn't give us antibiotics and laser surgery. Humans did. (sigh..why am I getting onto your case? it's me, not you) We, as a people or/and a species, need to move forward; not stand in place. I don't want our species to stagnate. There could be a designer, yes, but for goodness's sake don't stop asking questions and learning and challenging. I get so tired sometimes. Yes, there could be a creator or Creator but he/she/it left us to ourselves. We humans did this; all of this: computer, food, animals, housing, environment. Sorry, Brightening, I guess you're getting it today from me. I just don't get it. Even if you're a believer in one of the religions it doesn't mean you get a free pass to destroy the Earth. I'm sorry, Brightening.
05:23 PM on 03/28/2012
Thanks! :)

I just believe in a Deity with no organised religion. Also I believe we do have a guiding influence.

I agree that all this is up to us to deal with and that humans must push forward.
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06:43 PM on 03/28/2012
Actually if one actually studies evolutionary science, one will find that there is no discussion of the deity one way or the other. The existence or non-existence of a deity is simply not a scientific question. Although scientists may think about and talk about the deity in their private lives, it simply does not enter into their professional life via journal articles and professional conferences. When I was a practicing scientist, I often worked with religious scientists but it never once entered into their professional work. So the deity is not compatible with evolution because it is irrelevant to evolution. To understand evolution one must study comparative anatomy, historical geology, embryology, paleontology, genetics, cell biology, radiometrics and so forth not Leviticus, Job or Genesis.
05:35 AM on 03/29/2012
What I'm saying is that evolution does not rule out a Deity.
03:07 PM on 03/28/2012
Wow Michael of all the things to focus on that will be raised at the General Conference you focus on this?! The Church will undertake one of the most substantial re-organization questions in the history of the modern church--and try to do it without splitting the Church. If we pull it off we will be the only Christian denomination to do it in the last 50 years. So forgive me as a scholar and a UMC member if I ignore the contrived hysterics of your article!
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04:05 PM on 03/28/2012
Excuse me? I guess I can understand not wanting to split "the church". But what will you gain? Scratch that: no, I don't understand. Please explain. Thank you.
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07:36 PM on 03/28/2012
He's focusing on this because it's his cause celebre. These are important items, but they don't by themselves diminish other issues.
11:43 AM on 03/28/2012
you've gotta love religion!

you can almost hear the thought process - "hey, they already believe in crazy stuff, let's see if they'll swallow this whole!"
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jbarelli
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06:00 PM on 03/28/2012
No need to read the article, just replying to the headline is much more fun, isn't it?
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Djay0252
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03:38 PM on 03/29/2012
What you hear is your OWN thought process....filled with inconsistencies, falsehoods, and distortions. Sit in a quiet place someday and open your mind and heart to God. You will be amazed.
03:52 PM on 03/29/2012
um, no thanks. i was raised on God, and after careful consideration, decided i would simply waste my time on other endeavors. you can feel free to continue though.

i have no idea if you, or jbarelli are Creationists. if so, there is no reason to attempt to communicate with you. i've tried in the past, but logic and reason have past these people by. so, if the UMC wants to consider Creation or ID teaching, you can add them to the list of hopeful time travelers who wish Scientific discovery had never taken place. it has, and their children will be left in the dust by the rest of the civilized world.

as for my thought process, what would you know about it? you have as little evidence based on my 2 line comment as you have for your belief in God, which is to say exactly zero.