The Case for Hillary Clinton

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Posted June 23, 2008 | 10:49 AM (EST)



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As a believer that Barack Obama is the presidential candidate most likely to pilot the mothership that is the U.S. government away from the black hole that is the Bush administration, I, like many Obama supporters, did not like where Hillary Clinton let her campaign go. Her cynical insinuations about her opponent, her clumsy attempts to enhance her status, sniper-style, and the trash-talk tactics employed by her team sanded the varnish off her candidacy, revealing the sketchy wood of which it was built. She could have bowed out more gracefully. Her husband's games often seemed, well, gamey. Had the Clinton campaign not veered so visibly into the gutter, I'd have a much easier time making the case for this, but here goes:

Obama-Clinton is the ticket.

I know, right? I am every bit as perplexed by the fact that I wrote this as many people will be by reading it. The "Dream Ticket" washed out during the primary with the tide of public opinion. But now that Obama and Clinton are ready to begin their barnstorming tour (a trial run?), maybe it's time to re-visit the possibility.

Let's begin by addressing some of Senator Clinton's perceived negatives:

She's a woman. There are schools of thought that claim a woman will run poorly with a person of color. That is speculation by demography junkies. The fact is that an Obama-Clinton ticket will get people talking, and when people are talking they are not fighting. By the time Hillary is finished speaking sense to smart, wealthy women like herself, and Harriet Christian has taken to the streets behalf of the ticket, Cindy McCain will be the only woman she knows not voting for Obama.

She has personal baggage. Let's not confuse the baggage with the trip. Hillary Clinton has made a storied and very public climb to new heights for a woman in U.S. political life. The journey has informed and armored her in ways that will be important to the Obama administration. Most of the baggage belongs to Bill, anyway. (Some would say the baggage is Bill.) If he starts schlepping his own stuff, she will fly like Mary Poppins.

She will be a political liability. A liability occurs when what the value of what is owed exceeds the value of what is due. During the primaries, the Obama campaign did a good job of focusing the media on the debit side of Clinton's political ledger. At the same time, as she frequently reminded us, she was racking up impressive credits. Let's not underestimate the value of what she is owed, which is a lot, by a lot of people.

She is owned by PACs and lobbyists. Same as above. This is a media-created fable. She did not get to be the power player she is by owing more to her supporters than she is owed. She knows how to dance with the fat cats, and when she does, she knows how to lead.

She mis-managed her primary campaign, and the health care initiative she championed in 1993. Obama ran a great campaign. Hers was mis-managed in comparison to it, but if he had not run and she had been the nominee, it would have been praised as 'successful.' As for the failed health care program, imagine what an incredible learning experience that must have been. For every mistake she made, the likelihood increases that the same mistake will not be made again by an Obama administration in which she is the VP.

If she is Vice-President, she will have her own agenda. This would make her different from any other Vice-President how, exactly? What will matter to the Obama administration is not whether the Vice-President has his or her own agenda -- that's a given--it is whether that agenda jibes with his administration's or undercuts it. There is little evidence that Clinton, as VP, will undercut Obama. It is just as likely that making her VP will liberate her from her husband's agenda (whatever that is), which undercut her candidacy in the primaries.

She and Michelle Obama will not get along. Right. These are two powerful, stylish, beautiful, smart women raising lovely daughters, who both grew up in Chicago, and will both have been married to Presidents of the United States, decorated the White House and shared the global stage. And they're not going to find common ground? Please.

All these negatives are perceptions that have been shaped and sold by the media in the interest of keeping the primary saga lively. Not only is it entirely possible to turn Clinton's negative perceptions into positive ones, it is in the interest of the media to do so. Who doesn't love a good re-hab story? Re-hab stories pull ratings.

In addition, Sen. Clinton already has many positives going for her that will get amplified in her "reinvention" as Vice President. Among them:

She is a fighter. Hillary Clinton is one of the fiercest competitors in politics. The woman has amazing stamina, bright energy and no quit in her constitution. After five months of nearly non-stop campaigning she looked fresher and more radiant on the last day than she did at the start. Her relentless campaigning became the measure of Obama's greatness, like Joe Frazier became the measure of Muhammad Ali. To paraphrase another well-known fighter, I pity the poor Republican if Hillary is in the race.

Girl got game. She is a learner, and she learned a lot from campaigning against Obama. It would be a shame to let that learning go to waste by giving her anything less than the #2 billing. After the election, she has the surgical skills to get legislation through the twisted intestines of Washington. An Obama administration can cook some serious chicken on the Hill with Hill.

She is an insider. We are kidding ourselves if we think the heavy lifting of Obama-backed legislation isn't going to get done by seasoned pols inside the Beltway. Getting the economy moving again, dealing with the environment and patching up foreign policy is going to be an Outside-Inside game, with Obama stoking support and eliciting new ideas from the world outside Washington, and his administration working inside the Beltway to get shit done. Hillary can be the queen of getting shit done.

She is a team player. Nobody in modern politics ever took one for the team like Hillary Clinton when she held her chin high and stood by her man, and a lot of people besides Tammy Wynette fans identify with that. As a team-oriented player himself, Obama has got to respect that quality in a person.

The story has legs. I mean, come on. It can't end now! We're just getting started! Will she or won't she? How will Bill and Obama get along? What bone will Obama throw the big dog? What books are they reading? Is Michelle preggers? How much money will the campaign raise when they go on Oprah together? Will Bill hit on Carla Bruni at a White House dinner? Or will it be it the other way around? Omigod, you guys, how cute will it be when Chelsea babysits Malia and Sasha? An Obama-Clinton ticket presents unlimited fuel for the world's media networks. John McCain will be lucky to find time on local cable access channels.

Barack Obama can win in November with or without Hillary Clinton. That's not really the issue. The Democrats have to do more than win in November. They have to win big, so big that the tragically rigged policies of the past eight years can be extinguished once and for all. An Obama-Clinton ticket can do that. On so many fronts -- from education to energy to the financial markets to international relations to the environment -- there is no time to lose. It's now or never. The Obama administration has to hit the ground running and quickly turn the political mandate of a historically huge win into sweeping public policy.

Let's hope he asks her, and if he does, let's hope she says yes. It is the best shot we're gong to have to get the mothership back on course and up to speed.

Mike Bonifer is the author of GameChangers - Improvisation for Business in the Networked World. His website is www.gamechangers.com

 
 

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- arthuride See Profile I'm a Fan of arthuride permalink

I was (and am) a Hillary supporter--long before she announced for the presidency. I do not (nor ever have) liked Obama. But I am also a realist. The only way Obama can get the votes of people like me is if he has Hillary as his running mate. She has power, poise, position, personality, and the ability to swing votes. That is why she is with him, campaigning for those votes. I would vote for her and Obama. But without her on the ticket, it would be impossible to vote Democrat in the fall--not so much because of Obama, but because his supporters are neither realistic nor able to see the end results except through Obama-filtered lenses.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:47 PM on 06/24/2008
- ellenandron See Profile I'm a Fan of ellenandron permalink

And let us not forget she brings 18 million votes with her!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:18 PM on 06/25/2008
- several See Profile I'm a Fan of several permalink

Let us not forget that of that 18 million, only a tiny angry percentage would vote against every policy Hillary stands for by voting for McCain or by staying home.

Real Hillary supporters (those who support her because of her policies not because of a cult of personality) will vote for Obama in November because that is the best way to support the things that are important to Hillary.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:21 AM on 06/27/2008
- LizM See Profile I'm a Fan of LizM permalink

It is disheartening, to say the least, that you could fail to mention the most important and relevant negative about having Senator Clinton, and any number of potential running mates, on the Democratic presidential ticket. That would be the fact that she, like Senator Obama himself, does not come with a comprehensive and viable strategy to reverse US policy in Iraq by promoting a sustainable political solution. Neither one of them, in fact, understand the first thing about what will be required to end the civil war in Iraq and withdraw US forces without leaving a failed state in their wake. (Of course, the same can be said about Senator McCain. This entire election campaign would be pathetically laughable if the stakes were not so dangerously critical to America's future, domestically and internationally)

If Senator Obama is as smart and wise as he thinks he is, he will know instinctively - without the aid of vetters or VP search teams or an endless supply of free advice from the blogosphere - that what is needed is a gamechanger and his name is Joe Biden.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:07 PM on 06/23/2008
- Freesia2 See Profile I'm a Fan of Freesia2 permalink

LizM, I would be all for Joe Biden for vp if for his performance this past Sunday on "Meet The Press" alone. It was a kind of sad morning, in proportion because I didn't know Tim Russert personally, but I was feeling a little blue because the usual Sunday morning wasn't going to be happening (Get up- make coffee - take my dog down out to powder her nose-back in and settle down to watch a half hour of church and then on to "Meet The Press") but then I got to watch Joe Biden hand it back to that annoying Lindsey Graham and I cheered right up. (Total aside, but not only do I hate his politics, but Lindsey has this almost childlike look and way of speaking and I half except him to cry and drum his heels on the floor when he's losing the argument. Needs a spanking). Anyway, Joe Biden swatted him and held his own and was an excellent spokesman for Obama. With his background in foreign policy, I wouldn't cry and drum my heels if he were selected. Obama needs someone like him or...him!

(To blaqntelligence below: Thank you for your kind words. I was in a rush and was afraid I wrote a bad muddle.)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:58 PM on 06/23/2008
- jmpurser See Profile I'm a Fan of jmpurser permalink

So, depending on your point of view the argument is "if no one thought about Hillary the way everyone does and/or if Hillary wasn't the person she was then she's make a good addition to the ticket."

Okay, a really good argument for Hillary to run in an alternate universe. Good luck to her. As an argument for politics in THIS universe it's worse than bizzare, it's self immolating.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:37 PM on 06/23/2008
- BLinCincinnati See Profile I'm a Fan of BLinCincinnati permalink

"Barack Obama can win in November with or without Hillary Clinton. That's not really the issue."

No... that is the issue. Winning by 1% or 20% doesn't make a difference, he'd still be President.

Polls show adding Clinton would NOT change his turn out... just as many are more likely to vote for him as less likely. But it WOULD increase McCain's turn out.

She'd make governing nearly impossible with her constant need to be in charge. She'd undercut him every step of the way.

It won't matter anyway, no matter how hard people like you keep pushing it... she's not going to be VP.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:01 PM on 06/23/2008
- statsguy See Profile I'm a Fan of statsguy permalink

"Polls show adding Clinton would NOT change his turn out... just as many are more likely to vote for him as less likely. But it WOULD increase McCain's turn out."

These polls are wrong. The question in the polls asks "Would you be more or less likely to vote for Obama if Clinton were on the ticket?," but the polls don't assess the likelihood of voting for Obama.

Most of the "Not Clinton" people in polls, when you look at the cross-tabs are Obama supporters or hard-core Republicans. The Obama supporters will of course vote for Obama-Clinton, even if their likelihood of doing so has dropped from 100% to 90%. And the GOP voters aren't voting for Obama, period. They will be less likely to with Clinton, but they weren't anyway.

Adding Clinton to the ticket, based on a recent national poll, increase Obama's Democratic vote from about 66% to 90% support and increased his independent vote by 10%. It is a net win from Dems + independents, with no effect on Republicans.

Look at the cross-tabs of these polls. She is a net plus, and strategically it helps undercut McCain, who is working hard to reach Clinton supporters right now. He only needs 25-30% of Clinton supporters (or less in some states) to make it possible to beat Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:34 PM on 06/23/2008
- kvet See Profile I'm a Fan of kvet permalink

btw,,,,Im not Bashing Hillary Supporters and Dont Condone it......What Im Bashing is Complete Stupidity.....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:23 PM on 06/23/2008
- kvet See Profile I'm a Fan of kvet permalink

One more thing....For those of you who will be voting for John Mccain because youre Upset......Be my Guest!....You will only be Approving the Agenda for WW3.....Im ready,,,Are You ?....Plain and Simple...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:18 PM on 06/23/2008
- kvet See Profile I'm a Fan of kvet permalink

Get a Grip !!!.....All of YOU,,,,,whos wallowing in your pity of self absorbedness....If you cant exercise "Your Pure Rational Intellect" ???....Youre all Lost Causes...
This Election is Bigger than any one Candidate.....Its about America !!!....
Whoever you Choose to Vote for because of Your Tantrums,,,well,,,,thats your Problem and such is Life.....
With that Said,,,,,,,You might want to apply Higher Standards of Self Evolution....and Initiate Sense.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:13 PM on 06/23/2008
- Johnnn See Profile I'm a Fan of Johnnn permalink

So, we have someone talking sense here.
Just as many of you Obama supporters will hold your noses as you vote for a ticket with Hillary on it, the only way I would vote for your hero Obama is if Hillary is the VP. Otherwise, I will gladly vote for McCain. Me and millions of still angry, even angrier than before, Hillary voters.
If any of you have to ask me how I can vote for McCain if I like Hillary when there's the Supreme Court, the Iraq War, yada yada yada...then you don't understand voter angry and revenge. I've been voting this way since 1984. As the Roman General said in Ben Hur: "hate keeps a man alive". I should live for a long, long time.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:53 AM on 06/23/2008
- LizM See Profile I'm a Fan of LizM permalink

But, how would you react to an Obama/Biden combo? And, tell me what you REALLY think!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:12 PM on 06/23/2008
- Freesia2 See Profile I'm a Fan of Freesia2 permalink

And therein lies the problem. And you do a great disservice to her. Because when she was standing up saying "I would be the best President because (insert issues) you were hearing "I would be the best President because (insert I'm Hillary and he's not! Who cares about issues.). Or so it reads everytime I see one of her supporters saying the things you've written above. Revenge in her name served up as advocacy does her no favors.

You make it seem as though she should be the Co-President. It doesn't work that way. The president is Chief Executive. And like all executives, it is not just his right, but it is also his responsibility to organize a team he can lead. Lead. Not defer to. You want her in the White House as the VP, but view that as a mere technicality. You would always think of her as the Real President.

We've had 7 years of that. His name is Dick Cheney. He's been running the White House and wearing the name tag that says "VP" just for show. I don't care for a repeat.

I don't think Obama deserves this. Hillary wouldn't have either if the situation were reversed. And when you speak the way have here, you make it clear that you are so angry that would ignore and disregard all the issues she spoke of.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:06 PM on 06/23/2008
- frustratedinohio See Profile I'm a Fan of frustratedinohio permalink

If Obama actually wants to win, then Hillary must be on the ticket. As a Hillary supporter it's not want I want either, but it's a fact. It's the only way I would vote for Obama, however . . . . . . . . it better happen soon.

The Patti Solis-Doyle thing really irked me. Too many things like that and I won't vote for him even if he has her on the ticket. I don't want to wait until the convention either when he puts her on the ticket because he gets scared by some polls. Do it soon.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:50 AM on 06/23/2008
- blaqntelligence See Profile I'm a Fan of blaqntelligence permalink

Johnnn, frustratedinohio, this persistent stupidity is not a good look for either of you.

Vote for mccain or stay home but the blatant disrespect shown by so-called hillary supporters at this stage of the game is more than a little old.

frustratedinohio: "If Obama actually wants to win, then Hillary must be on the ticket. As a Hillary supporter it's not want I want either, but it's a fact. It's the only way I would vote for Obama, however . . . . . . . . it better happen soon."

One seriously loses credibility when the losing team believe they are relevant enough to make demands of the winning team....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:56 PM on 06/23/2008
- BADEN See Profile I'm a Fan of BADEN permalink

"She will be a political liability. A liability occurs when what the value of what is owed exceeds the value of what is due. During the primaries, the Obama campaign did a good job of focusing the media on the debit side of Clinton's political ledger. At the same time, as she frequently reminded us, she was racking up impressive credits. Let's not underestimate the value of what she is owed, which is a lot, by a lot of people.

She is owned by PACs and lobbyists. Same as above. This is a media-created fable. She did not get to be the power player she is by owing more to her supporters than she is owed. She knows how to dance with the fat cats, and when she does, she knows how to lead."

Uh....I just threw up in my mouth a little.

You CAN'T believe what you just wrote above.....honestly, now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:47 AM on 06/23/2008
- ddoston10 See Profile I'm a Fan of ddoston10 permalink

See Olbermann's special comment about Clinton's assignation remarks as to why Clinton should be no where near the ticket.

Your first comment about only CIndy McCain would be the only woman voting for McCain if Hillary was on the ticket is a direct insult to women voters and could easily be disapproved by the fact that not all women voted for Hillary in the primaries and there are republican and independents would never vote for her.

Hillary made arguments that never didn't hold up for a week after she left the race. You know the one about her having 18 million votes as if these people were locked in a closet waiting marching orders from their fearless leader. If 18 million democrats were waiting orders from HIllary, Obama would never had been leading in the polls against McCain.

The truth is, Obama does not need Hillary on the ticket. 60% of Hillary votes has come from States that Obama will carry on his own or from states that Obama most likely does not need to win (like Texas, NY, Cali, IL)


Indepeneds in FL, OH and PA, the big swing states say they do not want Hillary on the ticket. by huge margins .... I could go on but I won't.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:45 AM on 06/23/2008
- Freesia2 See Profile I'm a Fan of Freesia2 permalink

Well it started off a fairly nice day.

The only way it will actually continue to be a good one though is if Obama picks a running mate today, preferably by noon, so that I will never again have to read another article justifying why Clinton would be a good vp. I suppose, to paraphrase the senator from NY, that would make the skies open and celestial choirs would start singing.

Please stop this. Please. You have every right to write and mull over whatever you like, but I am truly tired of hearing about this. (I know, I know - if I don't like it I should just not read it.) He couldn't even enjoy June 3, in fact none of us could, because she was too busy ignoring it and then drowning it out with clamoring from her surrogates demanding her right to a spot on the ticket she didn't even acknowledge he'd won, as though the vp slot were the silver medal, a consolation prize she was owed.

I hope he gives her a place in his cabinet. She's a bright woman. But not the vp slot. He has to have someone he can work with and not against and around and in spite of.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:40 AM on 06/23/2008
- CornellRedneck See Profile I'm a Fan of CornellRedneck permalink

You're right, of course. Hillary would be ironically splendid as the White House Travel Bureau Manager.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:49 PM on 06/23/2008
- blaqntelligence See Profile I'm a Fan of blaqntelligence permalink

Thank you Freesia2!!!!!

You said exactly what I feel, except far more diplomatically.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:59 PM on 06/23/2008
- Epenthesis See Profile I'm a Fan of Epenthesis permalink

Do you honestly think that this is a ticket that can win big? Obama/Clinton is at best a squeaker victory--she attracts lots of people on the other side but few who won't vote Obama in the end. (Please don't even try to contradict me there. It's the truth and we all know it.) Obama will probably win comfortably with anyone else--she contracts the appeal of the ticket rather than expanding it. Add the fact that the VP is a job best given to a close ally who can be trusted to work independently without getting in the president's way, and you've got a lousy situation all around.

The Clinton spec is getting wanky. The only way he will choose her is if he in fact has no choice in the matter--if she's tied his hands to the point where another choice is impossible. And at the moment he's flush in cash and ahead in the polls without her. Game, set, match, and please put the keyboard down now and go get some fresh air.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:34 AM on 06/23/2008
- several See Profile I'm a Fan of several permalink

How many licks does it take to get to the center of a Hillary-won't-be-VP-realization pop?

1) "I think that since we now know Sen. McCain will be the nominee for the Republican Party, national security will be front and center in this election. We all know that. And I think it"s imperative that each of us be able to demonstrate we can cross the commander-in-chief threshold. I believe that I"ve done that. Certainly, Sen. McCain has done that and you"ll have to ask Sen. Obama with respect to his candidacy." -- Sen. Hillary Clinton - March 5th, 2008

2) "I will be making no decisions tonight" -- Sen Hillary Clinton - June 3rd, 2008

3) Her baggage is too large to fit into the overhead bin. Bill will never release the donor lists for his foundation and library. A fully vetted spouse is a requirement for a VP nomination.

Three. Three licks to get to the center of a Hillary-won't-be-VP-realization pop.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:32 AM on 06/23/2008
- AuntSally See Profile I'm a Fan of AuntSally permalink

Clinton's primary supporters are already voting for Obama; he can certainly win w/out her on the ticket (witness this weekend's Newsweek poll).

I don't see how you can call it a 'change' ticket w/ Clinton on the ticket.

Hillary Clinton is not a second fiddle, don't try to make her into one.

It's a bad, bad, bad, bad idea. Drop it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:29 AM on 06/23/2008
- statsguy See Profile I'm a Fan of statsguy permalink

This makes a lot of sense. Obama-Clinton, unlike any other ticket I can conceive of, will likely result in a blowout in November. We can already see that McCain's strategy is to convince women and Clinton supporters (male or female) to move over to his side. If McCain can get even 20-25% of Clinton supporters in key states like Ohio and Pennsylvania, McCain will win (albeit barely) or Obama will win but only by a hair.

Obama-Clinton results in merging the party together and winning huge. African-Americans, young voters, Latinos and Latinas, lower-income whites, and women will all turn out in large numbers. In polls asking "Do you want Hillary Clinton as vp?", even independents are generally in favor of her (a large group of people against her are Obama supporters, but they won't abandon their candidate, but she will bring people along--the magic of the 2 joining forces).

It could be an unstoppable ticket, likely leading to massive pickups in the Senate and House.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:04 AM on 06/23/2008
- TurnThePageGA See Profile I'm a Fan of TurnThePageGA permalink

As a long time Obama supporter this would "checkmate" McCain's pathetic pandering attempts at some of Hillary's most ardent supporters (and the move should not be made until near the end of the convention with a few more moves like the one with Solis Doyles to throw everyone off in between). I could never get the thought of this in my head during the primaries but now I ain't so sure it couldn't work.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:41 AM on 06/23/2008
- statsguy See Profile I'm a Fan of statsguy permalink

TurnThePageGA: I think you are definitely on to something. McCain is making a play, with some success at about 1/4 of Clinton supporters right now based on polls. This 1/4 may or may not be decisive, but if McCain wins, it will only occur because of disaffect "Clinton Democrats."

If Obama picks Clinton in 1-2 months from now, all that McCain leg work will be for naught, and it will be a checkmate.

In contrast, if Obama picks someone else, especially a man, McCain can then announce Sarah Palin or Carly Fiorina for veep, and it wouldn't surprise me if 30-35% of Clinton supporters vote for McCain at that point.

Both need to think about what the other is doing, and Clinton supporters could hold the balance of power.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:31 PM on 06/23/2008
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