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When the White House announced last week that the President would be addressing a joint session of Congress on the health care issue, I suggested that the President was raising the stakes not just through the roof but to the stars beyond. Well, he hit the jackpot tonight. I have been listening closely to Presidential speeches for about 35 years now, have watched quite a few oldies but goodies from the past, have even contributed ideas to a fair share of speeches in the Clinton years, and I am sitting here thinking that was one of the very best Presidential speeches I have ever heard. JFK's inaugural and a couple of FDR's best are the only ones I can think of that moved me so much. More importantly, though, he did everything he needed to do:
I was also very happy that the President took the Republicans on quite forcefully. While continuing to offer his hand, he made clear he wasn't going to take their BS any longer without pushing back.
As one who has been unhappy about a fair amount of Obama's communications strategy on health care up until now, I came away from tonight's speech a very happy man. He took a very big gamble, but I think he will get a great pay-off from it. He stood and delivered. Now I just hope Congress will find it within itself to do the same.
Robert L. Borosage: The President's Speech
The President gives a great speech. He offers reason against hysteria. He summons us to our better angels. He challenges politicians and Americans to do "great things," because that is "who we are." He claims the center by defining himself against left and right, even as he acknowledges merit in both. It is time now for action, but Barack Obama is ill-served by the petty corruption and ideological venom of the right, and the docility of the left.
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The Speech notwithstanding, I remain very interested in the actual health care bill that crosses the president's desk. And while I'm happy to see Obama make a moral case for addressing the issue now, and for taking on and beating back many of the fasehoods that have propagated around it, I would have liked Obama to have presented his own bill, not more rhetoric that still hedges on specifics and essentials.
The legislative process for health care reform, with the chief executive marshalling allies and votes through intermediaries, is still mostly taking place beyond our sight for now, and what deals are made among members or between branches to insure passage or inclusion of certain provisions regarding coverage and costs are also unknown to us. In this case, 'How A Bill Becomes A Law' may be more like the running of a gauntlet, with a disfigured and battered little scroll slouching unrecognizably toward passage, still titled 'Health Care Reform", but otherwise resembling nothing of the kind. If there is no single payer, or even a robust public option, with much storm and noise our representatives in Congress and in the White House may yet again find a way to reward donors with a windfall of public money in the form of mandated insurance, with no cap on costs and no elimination of the industry practice of recission.
Obama would have be castigated if he actually created a bill. Secondly, I thought it was his responsibility to provide vision and guiding principles, not actually get into the weeds of writing the law.
He learned from the Clinton history that if you lead the charge you will become a causality. Instead, lay out the guiding principles, allow Congress and Senate debate the issue. Identify key concerns and summarize the debate.
This is what he has done for the past 6 months.
Just remember all of the non-healthcare related nonsense that we've heard during this period. Now imagine if he was the author of the bill what additional BS would have taken place.
Seconded. It was a great speech; I'm interested in the bill that gets passed.
Here is the list of the Senate Democrats listed as ""Don't know" on the Public Option :
Source : http://standwithdrdean.com/where_congress_stands?chamber=Senate&party=D&state=&hc_status=0&commit=Filter
Sen Max Baucus D MT Phone: 202-224-2651
Sen Evan Bayh D IN Phone: 202-224-5623
Sen Mark Begich D AK Phone: 202-224-3004
Sen Robert Byrd D WV Phone: 202-224-3954
Sen Thomas Carper D DE Phone: 202-224-2441
Sen Kent Conrad D ND Phone: 202-224-2043
Sen Mary Landrieu D LA Phone: 202-224-5824
Sen Blanche Lincoln D AR Phone: 202-224-4843
Sen Bill Nelson D FL Phone: 202-224-5274
Sen Benjamin Nelson D NE Phone: 202-224-6551
Sen Mark Pryor D AR Phone: 202-224-2353
Sen Jon Tester D MT Phone: 202-224-2644
Sen Mark Warner D VA Phone: 202-224-2023
Sen Ron Wyden D OR Phone: 202-224-5244
I wonder how solid these "Dont know" Senators will be come their re-election in 2010?????
Ron Wyden is on this list . Perhaps he needs to go the same way the voters dealt with Gordon Smith.
Good luck on the Congress thing.
After most big political issues, I channel surf to see the response that FOX gives to things. If you only watched FOX, you would think that a 5th grade civics student wrote the speech. Just like in the debates where FOX said it was a clean republican sweep, (according to them McCain won both debates and Palin beat Biden), they are completely tone deaf and divorced from reality. They feign ignorarance on elementary issues and tell you that you did not just see what you just saw. "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain".
Yet I must say that none of the MSM covered key elements like, how is this really going to get paid for and they bought into O's explanation, or that illegals won't be included (yet the current bill says no but has nothing in it to enforce it). It's little things like that where you need other channels to get real information as opposed to MSM fawning all over him.
That is why it to good to get all perspectives. Sorry to say this but keep your friends close and your enemies closer.
The question for FOX:
Is there anything that you like about President Obama?
We like President Obama because he is half-white.
Is there anything that you don't like about President Obama?
We don't like President Obama because he is half-white.
The moderate Republicans need to find there voice.
I certainly hope that if he compromises and removes the public option, that he also removes the billions of dollars of funding in the bill.
As Howard Dean said on Hardball, it would be a travesty to take the public option out and leave all that money in for the insurance companies to pilfer.
Not one dime...NOT ONE DIME I tell you .... will come from the national deficit to pay for this HC bill. It will all be funded by the savings we get from fraud and waste in the present system." That statement alone should be enough to scare the hell out of us. Will we hear any criticism from PBO's personal guard dog media..MSNBC CBS ABC NY Times etc. Of course not and that's even scarier !
$900 Billion dollars worth. So everyone on this site should be p$#* off that the President admitted that at least 2 government programs, Medicaid and Medicare are FULL of waste and fraud to the tune of at least $50 -100 Billion a year! So why isn't there a panel in place TODAY, THIS MORNING that is going to tackle this regardless of how the health care reform unfolds. This is absolutely unacceptable yet he proposes that the government start another program that will certainly be full of waste and fraud.
zipowitz, the two programs are full of was and fraud because the insurance companies are scamming the system, which is why we are calling for insurance reform and the implementation of public option.
This is a huge part of the health 'reform' bill. The bill is your panel.
No, it is the private insurance companies that are partnered with Medicaid that are perpetuating the fraud. When private incurance companies got their little claws into the Medicaid and Medicare programs, is when these programs began to fail, scam seniors out of their money by incresing premiums, creating the gap in coverage and limits in coverage that did not exist with Medicare until the Private Insurance industry managed to weasel itself into the system.
There is an amazing amount of waste in all medical care. If actually addressed, there is a lot of savings to be had. But I am not worried about the money we need for health care. I'm worried about the money for war. The money taken by the financial giants. The 8 billion in cash taken from the pallets they were flown in on in Iraq. The tax-cuts which have gutted our social services. Now, that could be called real money.
what? Why are you scared, you are scared that the fraud that you must be engaged in might get uncovered?
"personal guard dog media"? where the hell do you get that? Independent media monitors have indicated time and time again that all media outlets have been favoring gop rhetoric for a long time, and now its not the exception. The right wing gets way more air time and positive commentary by the media hacks of practically every media outlet, including msnbc--except for Olberman and Maddow. The media has been responsible for perpetuating the lies and misinformation the gop has been spewing about the health care reform byt repeating what these imbeciles without evern engaging in responsible fact checking. The media loves the gop because they are the sensationalist, and that is what the media likes.
How old are you, Pinkie? When you need an MRI for a procedure on August 9th, and you get sent to another "specialist" on September 4th, is a second MRI necessary? I think not and neither do the doctors at the Mayo Clinic or the Cleveland Clinic. The SOLE reason for duplicate, expensive procedures is because doctors or paid for the number of procedures they do, not the end result.
Insurance companies have their greedy hands in the pot as well. READ, ask questions, and KNOW what you're talking about please, before you speak. Or go back to listening to fox noise, they probably talk more along the lines of what you want to hear.
Hi Gardner...
Until Obama made the comparison last night to automobile insurance
I didn't see the light.
I live in Texas, where 1 in every 4 motorists is uninsured.
So as Icommute to and from work everyday and look at the
literally dozens of cars ahead and behind me and to my left
and right at any time, it is most discomforting to realize that
at any given moment at least 3 of them are uninsured.
We have become a society that will try to get away with most
anything. Our collective conscience and our individual morals
have been largely deserted. We may not like to admit that,
but it's true. So what Obama is realizing and I admit has
awakened me to as well is that given the chance we will
game the system every bit as much as the pharmas and
insurance giants.
Now, there remains the larger arguement, that every other
free country in the world insures its people. We, the wealthiest
of all nations in that world, can't even agree on a public system
which is hardly free -- it just makes insurance affordable.
France, Germany, Italy, Canada, England and many dozens
of other countries maintain armies or navies or air forces,
or all of the above, and also manage to offer citizens
absolutely free health care.
What is it so different or special in the United States that we
can't do the same?
The difference is that we function in the most extreme capitalist ic country in the world, which breed extremely greedy, self-serving, selfish citizens.
The difference is that the people of this country have not yet wakened up to the fact that we have the most corrupt government in the industrialized world. Everything the higher-ups do is for the benefit of the top 2%, who in their turn give huge chunks of the money deregulation has allowed them to accumulate to the politicians.
It is also PAST time the people stood up and demanded an ammendment to our Constitution that gives supreme court justices TERM LIMITS! That SOB roberts, awarded a plum job by the "leader" of the most corrupt administration this nation has ever known, is twisting arms to restructure the laws governing campaign contributions by CORPORATIONS! The rich will have ALL the say, ALL the time. And we have bush and his corporate buddies to thank for the absolute destruction of our nation.
Also, you might want to consider moving out of Texas. You're living too close to bush and the rest of the wingnuts.
LOL.
Rep Wilson's disgraceful outburst elevated President Obama
an immeasurable distance last night. Someone on the White
House staff has to find the way to prod Wilson to attend all functions
where Obama is scheduled to speak in the future and goad him into
making similar comments. One or two more of these and health
care passage will be a cake walk.
He's got my vote.
contrast the brilliance of our president with the hateful childish rudeness and ignorance of the GOP........pretty amazing. I did not see this comming. I knew the world was full of hateful ignorant horrible people and that decency and heroism were rare indeed but I had no idea my own country would be taken over by the worst elements of humanity. so this is what it has come to!
it takes so very little for the liberals to get excited about the chosen one. He just steps out and makes another vacuous speech and they all go the way of Chris Matthews.
Get a brain and shortly thereafter a life.
You said it. Never in my lifetime did I think I would see this day. Torture. Imperialism. Bailouts. Bubbles. Invasions. Surprise attacks. Arguing over the right to health care. HEALTH CARE. Stealing from the young and giving to the old in such a blatant fashion it takes your breath away. How can a conservative parent look their children in the face. I don't know. All I know is that thru history whenever fairness becomes extinct you get revolution and right now In America fairness is DEAD.
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i guess Wilson never heard of the internet. LOL.
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What? Did we watch the same speech? On the public option, I heard..."The public option is great. But, it doesn't matter to me whether we have it or not." This is most certainly NOT what advocates of the public option wanted to hear.
The final bit about Ted Kennedy's letter was spectacular though. Brilliant case for why reform is needed AND why the government has a role to play in it.
I agree Klondiker. I guess Progressives are looking at through the glass half-full philosophy. But as you also mentioned they can still fight to have it included whether Obama is willing to or not.
Hate to disagree, but Obama plainly stated that there *will* be a public option for those that are not covered any other way. There will be premiums, as there should be, but no one will be left without insurance.
What I heard: He didn't endorse "THE public option" but he gave a strong defense of "A public option" and said that it DID matter to him, that it was important to offer some kind of government sponsored alternative to private insurance to guarantee choice.
I will agree that he really nailed it at the end with a strong moral argument for reform.
READ THE SPEECH! Don't speculate on what he said or didn't say and then run with it, this is how misinformation is spread. If in doubt, take a few minutes to print out the speech and read it carefully!! We can't afford to contribute to the misinformation train headed by the Repugs.
Sorry Mike. I'm not with you on this one. Your optimism has blinded you. Progressives in Congress are going to have to force the President to include a public option by threatening to kill any bill without it. If they don't, true reform is dead.
Don' t get so hang up on the means, it's the end that matters, full,quality , affordable, secure coverage... that is what he's aiming for and will get passed. It's time u guys start thinking strategically, like our president.
The jackpot is when the bill is passed and what it contains.
Mike, I totally agree with your article, and I want I always appreciate your perspective on political issues. Kudos!
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