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Mike Lux

Mike Lux

Posted April 21, 2009 | 11:13 AM (EST)

Secession Politics


It's always fun to see conservatives openly discussing the whole secession from the union option, as Gov. Rick Perry did last week. Or to see conservative politicians with associations to openly secessionist groups, like Sarah and Todd Palin, become national icons for the conservative movement. I know a lot of people are surprised by secession talk -- one friend said to me, "I thought that was settled in 1865" -- but they shouldn't be. Conservatives have never given up on the states' rights ideas that drove us into the Civil War in 1861.

In fact, as I argue in my book, The Progressive Revolution: How the Best in America Came to Be, John C. Calhoun -- with his fiery philosophy of states' rights -- was in fact the founder of the political movement that became modern American conservatism. Calhoun argued that the rights and prerogatives of the individual states were more important than that of the federal government. He argued that states had originally joined the union of their own free will, and had every right to -- at any time and for any reason -- nullify national laws for that state, to refuse to enforce laws passed by the federal government, and to secede from the union.

It was the perfect philosophy for justifying the Civil War, and -- a century later -- for the defiant opposition to the federal Supreme Court decisions and civil rights laws that ended Jim Crow.

Now you would have thought that fighting the horrible and bloody Civil War, and being thoroughly crushed in that endeavor, would have ended the states' rights followers hopes and power in the American political system. Not so much. In fact, as I write in the Progressive Revolution:

Southern elites actually expected that all would return to the way things were before the war: that they would still have the catbird's seat in terms of congressional power, and that they would still have the right to control the lives of their former slaves despite emancipation.

While the radical Republicans were able to push through three outstanding progressive constitutional amendments immediately following the Civil War, and give freed slaves some civil rights in Reconstruction, after 1877 Southerners were able to regain their political power and put Jim Crow in place. 80 years later, the ideological heirs to those conservative states' rights leaders used the doctrine once again to bitterly, and in some cases violently, fight to preserve Jim Crow. And even after they lost that fight, conservatives continued to pay obeisance to the philosophy and rhetoric of states' rights. The ultimate example of this was a campaign stop in 1980. Again from The Progressive Revolution:

The most symbolically weighted moment of the new partnership between the South and the conservatives in the Republican Party occurred on August 3, 1980. Ronald Regan, in the official kickoff of his general election campaign, went to a little town called Philadelphia, Mississippi. Philadelphia was an odd choice in a whole lot of ways: it was a small town, kind of hard to get to, and not close to any major media markets. Mississippi was a small state with only seven electoral votes, and it certainly wasn't a swing state in the general election, as Regan was expected to carry it easily. And he sure wasn't there to hearken back to Bobby Kennedy's famous tour of destitute homes in the poor African American region of the Mississippi Delta.


The only thing Philadelphia, Mississippi, was noteworthy for in its history was that it was the town where the civil rights workers James Chaney, Andrew Goodman, and Michael Schwerner has been murdered during Freedom Summer, fifteen years prior.

Reagan wasn't there to talk about Chaney, Goodman, and Schwerner's deaths - he didn't mention them at all. What he did do was talk about states' rights: "I believe in states' rights; I believe in people doing as much as they can for themselves at the community level and at the private level. And I believe that we've distorted the balance of our government today by giving powers that were never intended in the Constitution to that federal establishment."

Reagan was there to seal the deal between the modern conservative movement and the old South. Going to the town where these courageous civil rights activists had been murdered in cold blood and talking about states' rights was one of the most shameful symbolic political acts in modern American history, but it was effective.

To this day, Conservatives continue to beat the dead horse of Calhoun's states' rights philosophy. Rejected by George Washington, James Madison, Andrew Jackson, Abraham Lincoln, the Warren Court, Martin Luther King, but beloved still by the conservative movement, the states' rights philosophy is one of the bedrocks of modern conservative thought. That philosophy has been embraced by conservative intellectuals like Russell Kirk and William Buckley, and politicians like Barry Goldwater, Ronald Reagan, Jesse Helms, and Newt Gingrich. It is as much a fundamental cornerstone of American conservatism as any other idea. So when Gov. Perry of Texas, or the Palins of Alaska associate themselves with something as crazy sounding as secession, don't be surprised: it really is what they believe.

It's always fun to see conservatives openly discussing the whole secession from the union option, as Gov. Rick Perry did last week. Or to see conservative politicians with associations to openly seces...
It's always fun to see conservatives openly discussing the whole secession from the union option, as Gov. Rick Perry did last week. Or to see conservative politicians with associations to openly seces...
 
 
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10:49 AM on 04/27/2009
I say we let them. Then all the crazy Republicans will move there and we won't have to deal with them as much.
11:12 AM on 04/22/2009
i totally agree we should leave the "union" as we are in the top ten in just about everything, and i mean top ten in the world, why should we be dictated to by 49 other states as to where our taxes are spent. we as Texans believe at our core in personal responsibility and strength of character, which is why we are the only state to have been its own country. unfortunately there are a bunch of yankee carpetbaggers here pushing us to the left, but we will resist and overcome i am confident. everyone involved in oppressing anyone for any reason is wrong especially those who do it in the name of faith. every person has worth in the eyes of God and as we created in his image should show reverence to one another and not be so selfish, but government cannot force an individual into anything without resentment. man must move by his own will or he will not want to move at all. when the government can do as it wishes the person connot! there are no examples of a socialist central government that can respect the individual. show me one, i challenge you. also as an afterthought, we here in texas obviously are doin somethin right, as our economic outlook is bright while america burns! if you seperate yourself from ideals and bias any intelligent person will find less intrusion in your lives makes for a better society.
10:48 AM on 04/27/2009
Let's see here...
1.) Stupidly evangelical
2.) No idea what socialism is (here's your example[s]: Sweden, Canada)
3.) Blind to how much his state is failing (49th in teacher pay, 46th in SAT scores and graduating high schoolers)

Yep, you're a Texan, all right. Here's a free tinfoil hat. Now, secede so we don't have to deal with people like you.
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12:17 AM on 04/22/2009
Funny when California asserted its state rights concerning medical marijuana, the holy bush hunta asserted the federal law, regardless of how unpopular it was in California. Seems state rights only when it suits the agenda of the Christian right.
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MajorKong
If the pilot's good, see, I mean if he's reeeally
08:44 PM on 04/21/2009
The GOP doesn't particularly care about State's Rights. They care about helping their corporate donors.

If that can best be accomplished at the state level, then they're all about States' Rights. If it can best be accomplished at the federal level, then that's fine too.
02:48 PM on 04/21/2009
I say let Texas leave, they can join OPEC.
02:38 PM on 04/21/2009
Not meaning to sound like a conspiracy theorist, BUT...

Is the governor of Texas proposing this so that two of his most famous residents (Bush and Cheney) will be protected from prosecution from the Obama administration? Think about it... Texas forms its own union and then refuses extradition of Bush and/or Cheney.

Would make a fun movie or novel if nothing else ;)
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LeftisBetter
Vote sanity. Obama 2012
03:55 PM on 04/21/2009
Unfortunately Cheney is Wyoming's problem (at least at his last disclosed position)
02:01 PM on 04/21/2009
Dear Red States:

Since you brought it up, we've decided we're leaving. We intend to form our own country, and we're taking the other Blue States with us. In case you aren't aware, that includes California, Hawaii, Oregon, Washington, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, Illinois and all the Northeast. We believe this split will be beneficial to the nation, and especially to the people of the new country of New California.

To sum up briefly: You get Texas , Oklahoma and all the slave states. We get stem cell research and the best beaches. We get the Statue of Liberty. You get Dollywood.

We get Intel and Microsoft. You get WorldCom. We get Harvard. You get Ole' Miss. We get 85% of America 's venture capital and entrepreneurs. You get Alabama .

We get two-thirds of the tax revenue, you get to make the red states pay their fair share.

Since our aggregate divorce rate is 22% lower than the Christian Coalition's, we get a bunch of happy families. You get a bunch of single moms.
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bighat
Truth as I see it
03:00 PM on 04/21/2009
Texas prefers going it alone. Take your beaches, welfare, and your taxes. If New York keeps raising taxes Wall Street may prefer to move to Texas. We do not want Harvard or any liberal college where professors give bad grades to those that disagree with their liberal view. Outlaw guns and push for a larger govt.

You can thrive I am sure with your city income taxes, state income taxes, and of course New California taxes. Since you will be using electric or hybrid cars the govt will have to find a way to make up the loss of revenue from gas taxes. Hence you will get a gps in your car so govt can track you everywhere you go and the speed at which you trave. Hey another revenue source for speeding.

We are financially secure while Californai and New York is broke. I guess New Californai needs to raise taxes and come up with new schemes for more taxation

We are financially secure without even a state income tax. We will also send you our illegals so you can keep the democrats in power

Please write your congress and get them to bring it up for Texas to secede. We will also help pack, give gas money, and snacks to the few in Texas that wants to move to New California.
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kathy001
Don't bogart that duck
05:37 PM on 04/21/2009
Wrong. Texas is not financially secure. Texas' unemployment coffers are empty because so many Texans are out of work. Huge office buildings in Dallas and other cities stand empty and are being valdalized because of so many business closures. Texas is last in the nation in so many things that it takes one State Rep all year to compile the list, along with all the evidence.

Texas has a very large Democratic population with more Republicans turning away from extreme conservatism every day. Those of you advocating secession are in the minority. You're all hat and no cattle.
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MajorKong
If the pilot's good, see, I mean if he's reeeally
08:47 PM on 04/21/2009
See how well you do without out all the federal money that supports those military bases.

Those B-1s at Dyess don't run on jet fuel they run on $$$, lots of $$$. Even your Air National Guard units are roughly 70% federally funded.
03:01 PM on 04/21/2009
The best you're going to get are the urban areas, even in most of those states. Ignore the silly mdia conceit of Red State/Blue State and look instead at the county-wide US map of the 2008 election. That's the best model for rational secession--which makes our upcoming secession the most interesting one in recent world history, since it isn't geographically divided in terms of easily specifiable regions. It's urban versus rural. That's should be enough to whet any political thinker's imagination--even you non-libertarians.
01:39 PM on 04/21/2009
Your analysis is right on the mark. The resurgence of this type of right-winged hate, does not bode well for a progressive future. What is the best progressive response to this renewed right-winged hate?
01:11 PM on 04/21/2009
States Rights is always code for abusing people

It's time to remove any semblence of that "right'. forbid conservatives from holding office and unify our country once and for all under a strong, progressive federal governement.. Conservatism is typically tied to sociopathy and clinical paranoia, the mentally ill cannot hold office can they?
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bighat
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04:59 PM on 04/21/2009
If you are looking for paranoia then look at the directives given homeland security, FBI, and other national law enforcement. returrning veterans, as right wing extremeists anyone with a bumber sticker that is chiristian, anti abortion, Ron Paul, Bob Barr as well as others need closer watching because home grown terrorism is spring up everywhere. Sounds more more lihe the clinical paranoia you speak of
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MajorKong
If the pilot's good, see, I mean if he's reeeally
08:48 PM on 04/21/2009
Better hide. I think I just heard a UN black helicopter go by.
12:27 PM on 04/24/2009
really? does your opinion allow you to insult me. its you who are filled with hate. your momma must have told you that you were so smart but 100 i.q. is only average so dont think yourself an expert. the unintelligent who think themselves smarter generally turn out to be the followers of popular charismatic progressive leaders such as lenin, stalin, hitler, che guverra, castro, chavez, mugabe, akmidinejad?(who cares if i misspelled it), all murderers with blood on their hands. i guess you progressives, who came up with eugenics under teddy roosevelt and woodrow wilson, the process hitler coopted to kill jews, really only care about helping those you dont kill first who meet your standard of life. these people are murderers. would any of shaken o.j.s hand. or dahlmer. how about charles manson, there is no difference. how is it hate to say we dont agree with you. am i a racist for wanting to be more frugal? am i bigot for questioning the actions of our government. you just reinforce my opinion that liberalism = selfishness! what you propose is tyrranny like china and the ussr no freedoms, just the party line. just as a warning, you forget yourself sir, when it comes down to your talk becoming actions we will stand up. as for sociopathy or paranoia, you are an idiot!
01:02 PM on 04/21/2009
I'm sold. Secession for Republicans! Let's give them their precious Jesusland - then we can finally step unhindered into the new century and fix everything they've destroyed without their ideological dead weight dragging down our coattails.
01:52 PM on 04/21/2009
Glad to hear you say this. Finally we agree on something. Although states rights and secession aren't Republican ideas--they're libertarian to their core, as Robert Nozick argued correctly in Part III if his 1973 Anarchy, State, and Utopia. But I do wonder: after the secession, what will you enlightened folks in your urban wonderlands be eating? Your ipods and cell phones? ("Need to grow your own food? There's an app for that," I suppose?)
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WASanford
I think, therefore I am mad as hell!
02:28 PM on 04/21/2009
We will have the California inland valley that feeds a good portion of the world. What are you guys going to eat, cotton?
12:34 PM on 04/21/2009
The concept of "Real America" allows conservatives to equate secession with patriotism. If those folks over there don't behave the way I behave then they are not America/ns.

It's "destroying the village to save it", by another name.
12:33 PM on 04/21/2009
Where exactly in the Constitution does it say that a state cannot leave the Union? Also, who or what says that the states have to give over their rights to federal government? If leaving the Union is against the Constitution why were there no trials for treason after the war for southern independence? Why wasn't Jefferson Davis put on trial? Davis was held for over 2yrs and no charges were brought against him even though he pushed to have a trial.
I would think that libs would love to have red states leave the union. You would get more Dem reps in Congress and have total control over the Government for as long as you wanted.
01:05 PM on 04/21/2009
I don't know about the Constitution, but in the Pledge of Allegiance we do say, "one nation, under God, INDIVISIBLE, with liberty and justice for all." When was the last time Gov. Perry said the pledge?
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02:10 PM on 04/21/2009
Not only were Jefferson Davis and other secessionists NOT tried for treason.... they are HONORED. Please... if you've never been... go to Richmond, VA. They have a street there lined w/ the "Heroes of the Confederacy".... statues of all the good ole boys... RE Lee, Stonewall Jackson, et al. And let's not forget about that Confederate Flag that gets to fly everywhere as "freedom of speech".

Remarkable !!
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12:04 PM on 04/21/2009
One of the big problems in this country is that states with small populations get outsize representation, especially in the Senate.
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MajorKong
If the pilot's good, see, I mean if he's reeeally
12:00 PM on 04/21/2009
It's worth nothing that the Confederate States of America had no provision for its member states to secede from it.

I guess it's one secession per customer.
11:45 AM on 04/21/2009
Too bad the phony "states rights" hypocrites in the GOP don't extend that philosophy to elections. The RNC has money to spend on prolonging election recounts in Minnesota and New York State. After all, what right do these upstart state Courts have to rule against a republican in a recount battle?
12:22 PM on 04/21/2009
I agree. The conservatives only support states rights when it is in their interests. Whether it's the pre-civil war slave hunters the south would send up into northern states to chase down freed slaves, or modern day conservative attacks on states that legalize medicinal marijuana or gay marriage, or the elections in Minnesota and New York, most conservatives will trample all over state rights without a second thought if it will increase their wealth and power - which ultimately is all they really care about.
02:47 PM on 04/21/2009
interesting point...
So if states rights had been respected in Florida, Al Gore would have been president?