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It's Not Israel's Critics Who Are Anti-Israel

Posted: 11/06/11 03:00 PM ET

As someone who blogs about Israel and Palestine almost daily, I elicit many reactions -- from left-wing supporters and hostile right-wing detractors.

Naturally the two groups don't agree on much of anything but sometimes supporters and detractors make the same mistake: they assume (or charge) that I am anti-Israel. To be fair, it is mostly the right-wing AIPAC types who make that assumption but occasionally my fellow opponents of the occupation make it as well.

Not long ago, I was on Al Jazeera and someone, I think from Damascus, called in to say how gratifying it was to see that there were "anti-Zionist Jews like Mr. Rosenberg" who are fighting to end the occupation.

I quickly corrected him. I told him that I was not anti-Israel. In fact, I am pro-Israel and if I wasn't, I doubt I would be involved so heavily in the fight for justice for the Palestinians.

Surprisingly, the caller said, "Even better. That means you can talk to other Jews to make them understand that being for Palestine does not make you anti-Israel."

And, of course, it doesn't.

To be honest, I exploit the fact that I am not anti-Israel whenever I appear on Arab media, making clear that I believe Israel has the absolute right to full security within the pre-'67 borders or whatever borders are ultimately agreed to in negotiations.

I do that because doing so helps to defuse the negative image many Arabs and some pro-Palestinian people here have about Jews.

Thanks to the pervasive influence of AIPAC and its satellites, they believe that virtually all Jews support the occupation, oppose Palestinian rights and even the rights of Muslims in the United States. By the same token, they believe that Jews who do support the Palestinian cause are either anti-Zionist, anti-Israel, or defectors from the Jewish people.

I see it as part of my mission to change that view which, I think, is both wrong and dangerous for Jews. While the right-wing Jewish organizations worry about a few anti-Semitic placards at "Occupy Wall Street," I worry that the perception that American Jews are more loyal to Israel than to the United States will ultimately prove harmful to all Jews here. I also worry that the Muslim world will come to believe that American Jews are all supporters of the occupation and of zealots like the settlers and Binyamin Netanyahu.

Of course, why wouldn't they think that? They see AIPAC and its Congressional cutouts never, ever, deviating from the line laid down by Jerusalem while showing no such deference to an American president. They know that Israel is the only public policy issue in America on which the two parties stand in enforced unity, a unity dictated by the "pro-Israel" lobby and the donors it has at its disposal. They watched President Obama retreat from his pledge to be a Middle East "honest broker" when Netanyahu and AIPAC demanded total 100 percent fealty to Israel.

How are they to know that according to the most comprehensive poll of American Jews, precisely 3 percent cast their votes for president based on attitudes toward Israel while the rest make their choice based on American issues, just like their neighbors.

I have been deeply involved with Israel since 1968 when, as a teenager, I made my first of dozens of visits there. I know the country well. In recent years, I've traveled to Palestine as well, even serving as an official U.S. observer of the 2006 Palestinian national election.

A photograph of the Tel Aviv coast can make my heart beat a little faster. I love the Israel that Tel Aviv -- in particular, north Tel Aviv -- represents (secular, left-wing, gay-friendly, young, and hip). Yes, I know that Tel Aviv is not Israel and that people there are accused of living in a "bubble," partying while Gaza suffers an hour away. But how are they any different from people in Manhattan, Ann Arbor, or West LA? People living in countries that have essentially gone crazy live in bubbles to avoid going crazy themselves.

So, to put it simply, one of the major reasons I despise the occupation, the Netanyahu government, and the lobby (AIPAC) that sustains it through campaign donations to Congress, is because they threaten the existence of the Israel that Tel Aviv represents.

Of course, my love for the "good" Israel is not the only reason I am vehemently opposed to the occupation and its sustainers. I know many Palestinians and I have seen the occupation with my own eyes.

One can argue about whether or not the Gaza blockade is legal or illegal but not over the fact that Israel continuously violates the fundamental human rights of the Palestinians of the West Bank (including East Jerusalem). Nor over the fact that war crimes were committed during the 2009 war in Gaza, regardless of what Justice Goldstone says in his next Op-ed. Nor that the policy that inflicts "collective punishment" on the people of Gaza is wrong by any standard.

Nothing I wrote above is anti-Israel. On the contrary, it is precisely because I want Israel to exist in peace and security that I oppose the occupation (and, just as much, the insane idea of bombing Iran which could ultimately lead to the destruction of the entire Israeli state). No, it is the supporters of the occupation and of war with Iran who should defend themselves for advocating policies (and forcing them on the United States) which could destroy Israel, the country and the dream.

It is wrong to believe that those of us who oppose the policies of AIPAC and company are outliers. We aren't. We just aren't as loud as AIPAC, nor -- and more importantly -- do we have the cold cash to lavish on Members of Congress.

And maybe that's our fault.

The week Barack Obama announced his candidacy for president, I told him that I hoped that when he became president he would not ignore the views of Jews like me who want the U.S. to pressure Israel hard to end the occupation for Israel's sake and America's. (He has ignored us, of course).

He responded by cupping his hand on his ear and saying, "if you want me to hear you, speak louder. I hear from AIPAC (he specifically named the AIPAC leader in Chicago) every week." I told him that I'd gladly call him every week!

He repeated: Speak louder.

That is what I try to do. Maybe one day, my friends and I will drown out the self-serving noise (and money) machine that is AIPAC. It doesn't seem likely. But then, who would have imagined Occupy Wall Street?

 

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Alan Ray
09:28 PM on 11/08/2011
70% of Israelis support the idea of a Palestinian state but the mindless ideologues here would have you think that only the most anti-Israeli people would support it.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/sep/23/israelis-largely-support-palestinian-state
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Alan Ray
09:28 PM on 11/08/2011
Many conservatives seem to have a very black and white view of the world in which either you're with one side or against it. Just look at the right's reaction to anti-Iraq war protesters. Instead of the anti-war protesters being against putting American soldiers in harm or Iraqi civilians in harm, the right portrayed anti-war protesters as pro-Islamic terrorism. It's a completely backless assumption but many people even to this day still believe it. It'd probably be a surprise to the pro-war people that Bin Laden was in the same camp as them. Several endless guerrilla wars only benefit Al Qaeda and other Islamic terrorist groups. They don't have anything to lose by the U.S. expending resources and getting people killed in places like Afghanistan and Iraq. Many of the Islamic extremists who we supported during the Soviet-Afghan war, see this current war as something that might bring down the U.S.

It's amazing that people can be seen as more patriotic by supporting a war that has shown very little success. Also, considering the fact two other super powers, Great Britain and the former Soviet Union were unsuccessful in Afghanistan doesn't give me much hope about the U.S. being any different.
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Bob Metcalfe
Caught at 1st. slip trying to cut
03:54 PM on 12/25/2011
True but it's also fundamentalist christians who believe israel is necessary for the end of days and the rapture right?
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Kramerica-Industries
And with Darren’s help, we’ll get that chicken
02:47 PM on 11/08/2011
OK Mr Rosenberg, you say you want the occupation to end so do most Israelis. But ending the occupation doesn't mean giving up to all Palestinian demands. Israel already offered a two state solution where not a single Palestinian lives under Israeli occpation and was turned down.
Everybody can say we need to reach a solution and end the occupation. Lets hear how you plan to do so if we take Olmerts peace offer, which the Palestinians didn't accept as a starting point. What more are you willing to offer them that Olmert did not already offer.
Lets say you are in charge of Israel what will your peace deal look like lets hear the details.
12:52 PM on 11/08/2011
MJ, you are an Israel supporter and thanks for pointing that out. Just because you publish a weekly article highly critical of anything Israel does does not make you a detractor. Just because you go on Arab web sites, Arab media, and meet with ANY Arab pressure group to give them support does not make you anti Israel. Your overt writings calling any self defense actions by Israel as somehow being "illegal," your open support of allowing Iranian arms into Gaza, and your day in and day out questioning of the character of any Israeli government official does not make you Anti Israel. Your refusal to criticize any terrorist attack on Israel, excuse it, and blame Israel for it also does not make you "anti Israel." Who would say something like that?
02:36 PM on 11/08/2011
Can you make this point without lying about his positions? It would certainly make it work better as an argument. Or were you trying to make his point by parodying the people who say he is anti-Israel?
09:56 AM on 11/09/2011
Sure, I just did. Maybe you could specifically point out where I am "lying?"
10:35 AM on 11/08/2011
Israel's threat of bombing Iran is actually a great help for the Iranian regime, because they are trying to prevent UN agency from disclosing full details of Iranians attempt to build a bomb. Iranian regime has good friends even in Israel.
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Trollstein
Once you go Schwartz, you never go back baby
08:24 AM on 11/08/2011
"It's Not Israel's Critics Who Are Anti-Israel "
No, Israels critics are its friends and its its proponents are its adversaries?
George Orwell just called, he wants his manuscript back.
02:38 PM on 11/08/2011
This has to be the most twisted take on Orwell one could imagine. Orwell saw the importance of criticism to a healthy state. That was part of what he was trying to defend in attacking double speak. There is nothing Orwellian in the idea that people could criticize Israel in the hopes of making Israel stronger and more sustainable.

It is mindless support that Orwell was opposed to.
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Domingo Cardoza
USARMY Ret. _Unabowed America-Firster
04:37 PM on 11/08/2011
Great response and point well made
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Trollstein
Once you go Schwartz, you never go back baby
06:54 PM on 11/08/2011
Orwell also joined the British version of the "Lincoln Brigades" to go and fight the fascists in Spain. At that time, most people were of the (mistaken) belief that the fascists posed little threat to their own little comfortable lifestyle and in fact, corporate-based fascism had significant support (mainly from affluent classes) worldwide. However, some forward thinking people knew that fascism was the prototype for a world in chaos.
Just as today many people (falsely) believe that the global Islamic revolution poses no threat to their own comfortable lifestyles. They believe it can be appeased and by blaming the traditional scapegoat (the Hebrews) people are distracted enough to loose sight of the true threat to their freedoms, which, in reality, has nothing whatsoever to do with Israel and in fact, Israel is at the front lines of this conflict and is creating a barrier that prolongs our own survival as free humans.
My earlier comment was not only fair, it was precisely appropriate (for reasons both obvious and already stated). I have no problem with legitimate criticisms of Israel and do it myself from time-to-time. But there is a difference between legitimate criticism and anti-Semitic hyperbole. Anyone who thinks that all criticism of Israel is anti-Semitic is off one one tangent. But equally, anyone who thinks that no criticism of the Jewish nation is anti-Jewish is (in so doing) quite possibly committing an act of anti-Semitism.
01:42 AM on 11/08/2011
If there is no two-state solution then Israel won't be viable over the long run because of demographics.
11:24 PM on 11/07/2011
The conversation then drifted to Netanyahu, at which time Sarkozy declared: "I cannot stand him. He is a liar." According to the report, Obama replied: "You're fed up with him, but I have to deal with him every day!"
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Trollstein
Once you go Schwartz, you never go back baby
08:32 AM on 11/08/2011
Well, Obama does NOT have to deal with Netanyuhu every day and the concept is interesting because it reveals how some are obsessed with Israel and its perceived wrongdoing, which, is often seen as the most serious threat to the world's future viability. In reality, the Jewish nation is the best hope that the world has to accomplish meaningful social and scientific evolution.
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Trollstein
Once you go Schwartz, you never go back baby
08:33 AM on 11/08/2011
As far as France, in an adequate world, Israel would their their permanant seat in the UNSC.
01:04 PM on 11/08/2011
Israel take the place of France on the UNSC? And you're serious aren't you? Well dream on!!
11:09 PM on 11/07/2011
MEMO 7 Nov by Dr. Hanan Chehata -- The Russell Tribunal on Palestine and its eminent panel of jurists has determined that Israel's practices against the Palestinian people are in breach of the prohibition of apartheid under international law. Following two intense days in Cape Town listening to testimony from expert witnesses, the Tribunal concluded unanimously that "Israel subjects the Palestinian people to an institutionalised regime of domination amounting to apartheid as defined under international law." The jury reached this conclusion having paid particular attention to the legal definition of apartheid and ensuring that each of the defining criteria was met.
JacksonJones
Absit iniuria verbis!
10:52 AM on 11/08/2011
Unfortunately for those people, the Arabs who actually live in Israel disagree.
Satirist1
All 4 d best in the best of all possible worlds
08:10 PM on 11/07/2011
“Oh what a tangled web mj weaves...."
09:18 AM on 11/08/2011
MJ is honest . . so he is weaving nothing . . just stating the facts . . .
Satirist1
All 4 d best in the best of all possible worlds
11:16 AM on 11/08/2011
Cute.
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nypoet22
Psychology Ph.D., Civics Teacher, Songwriter
07:15 PM on 11/07/2011
the president seems beset by the same malady as the supreme court, the belief that money is the same thing as free speech. "speak louder," indeed.
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Aussieposter
And so it begins
05:49 PM on 11/07/2011
Mr Rosenberg. My Grandparents were forced at gunpoint away from their home in Palestine.

1 I believe that the British promised Palestine in 1915 as part of an Arab state.

2 I do not believe that the British had the moral or legal right to make the Balfour Declaration ignoring the wishes of the majority population.

For these and numerous other consideration if I had a vote prior to the establishment of Israel. My vote would be no. That does not make me anti-Jewish. It simply means that I believe that the Palestinians had a better case.

Once the egg is broken its almost impossible to put it back together. Further I doubt that there would be any chance of a one state solution. It would therefore seem that the only viable option for the Palestinians is the two state solution based on the pre-1967 borders. In this situation Idealism must give way to pragmatism.

However the longer that this process is dragged the more land that Israel accumulates, the greater are the chances of a one state solution. Israel would be wise to withdraw its objection to Palestinian recognition. Should this bid fail I believe that the only option that the Palestinians have left would be to dissolve the the Palestinian Authority seek Israeli citizenship and the right to vote.
Satirist1
All 4 d best in the best of all possible worlds
08:21 PM on 11/07/2011
Palestinian have been offered-- numerous times-- their own state from 1947 until today. They rejected. Every. Single One. Always with some convenient pretext. Always waiting for some outside savior-- Nasser, Sadat,Soviet Union, Hussein, Khomeini, Assad, Saladin, Anything but rational negotiations..
Meanwhile, The Jewish state is getting more prosperous and powerful and Palestinains are getting weaker. And due to at time irrational mythology and belief in their own PR collectively and severally incapable of rational negotiations.
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Talab
I tot i taw a putty tat
05:01 AM on 11/08/2011
So your idea of how Palestinians should "negotiate" is to humbly accept the scraps from the Israeli table as a state ? With Israel controlling their movement and water at all times? No Israeli or American would accept the same conditions imposed on them by Palestinians if their roles were reversed including the Balfour doctrine or the Mandate. What would the jewish response have been if the UN had awarded 55% of the jewish lands to the Palestinians and they got to keep the land they already owned too? Thats what the mandate did to Palestinians . To be honest the european powers did this so they wouldnt have to take the refugees from Hitler's final solution them selves ... instead they handed off the problem to Arabs and now want to vilify Arabs for not wanting their problems either. What a sour joke it became when it turned out that major portions of the world's oil supplies were under Arab lands and now these same countries need Arab good will or subservience ( one or the other) but with their support of the displacement of Arabs it is unlikely they will ever receive either
12:57 PM on 11/08/2011
Cute.
Satirist1
All 4 d best in the best of all possible worlds
08:28 PM on 11/07/2011
Subject:.One state:
Arab, Jewish and Christian Israel want no part of the Palestinian disaster. Especially now with Hamas fanatics in charge of most of Palestinian population this is laughable non-starter.
Thousands of Arab Jerusalemites run screaming for Israeli citizenship anytime a rumor of Palestinain over emerges.
The choices for Palestinains are such:
1.Their own state with a capital in Ramallah. On the lands negotiated from Israels.
2. One state autonomous status with Jordanians, who are majority Palestinians any way.
3. Present quasi-state status with the land available to them getting gradually smaller.
Everything else, including return to bucolic farm( now the mega shopping mall) is stuff of fairy tales Palestinain leaders cynically feed their populations in order to stoke belligerence and recruit more canon fodder.
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Anybodyseenthepopos
Like you Really give a rats...
04:35 PM on 11/07/2011
Apology not accepted. And I won't believe you until your columns are evenhanded and your points are laid out in context.
08:01 PM on 11/07/2011
SRY LITTLE BOY BUT FACTS ARE FACTS.

ISRAEL IS WRONG AND ACTING LIKE A BRUTAL BULLY. FAIR AND BALANCE ONLY WORKS IN PROPAGANDA...IN THE REAL WORLD WE WANT FACTS AND FACTS ARE DAMNING TO ISRAEL.
09:01 PM on 11/07/2011
"FAIR AND BALANCE ONLY WORKS IN PROPAGANDA­."

huh ? do you have any understanding of what propaganda is? seriously dude quit yelling and get an education or at least a dictionary.
09:17 PM on 11/07/2011
You are speaking the truth.
But please lay off the CAPS.
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QuakerJewish
Reality over myth.
09:43 PM on 11/07/2011
He wasn't apologizing, Popos, so you have nothing to "not accept". He was very evenhanded and his points were laid out in complete context, something you never seem to accomplish yourself.

And to Israel's detriment, you continue to not listen.
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Sam Adamson
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04:18 PM on 11/07/2011
I wonder what prompted the author to write such an apologetic post.
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mjc
Avoid printing any..
03:48 PM on 11/07/2011
MJ Rosenberg, it is very difficult to post anything on any thread that deals with Israel because there is this hate-filled, angry, close-minded group of disciples who will never allow any criticism and it is always their ultimate charge that any criticism defines an anti-Jew, anti-Semite. Think this attitude along will ultimately bring Israel down, from within, because if one can't view their own country honestly and openly, flaws and all, the problems will go on and on, those with Israel's neighbors and those with the Palestinians. Israel has become increasingly isolated and if the US is their only friend and ally, that will make it impossible for even US leaders...like Obama...to even suggest a change in behavior. Can't believe Obama actually confirmed his closeness with AIPAC. Very scary especially now that the final solution for Israel seems to be bombing Iran and the US isn't really backing down very much from their support of that Israeli policy.