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Israel's New Coalition: Much Ado About Nothing

Posted: 05/10/2012 2:35 pm

It's impossible to understand why anyone who literally wasn't born yesterday would get excited about the new Likud-Kadima coalition forged by Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu and former Defense Minister Shaul Mofaz.

Of course, the coalition is great news for the members of the new coalition (94 out of the 120 Knesset members). Politicians love staying in office and don't enjoy facing the voters and this deal puts off the next election until 2013. For Netanyahu, this arrangement is a big win. Stable coalitions are rare in Israel and this one looks to be as stable as any in Israel's history.

But what is there to be excited about?

Some say that an Israeli attack on Iran is less likely because Mofaz is less hawkish on Iran than Netanyahu and that appears right.

But an attack on Iran was looking less and less likely anyway. Moreover, it can be assumed that Netanyahu would not have joined with Mofaz unless he had a commitment (probably in writing) that his new partner would back him should he decide to attack. Also, with 94 Knesset members in his new coalition, Netanyahu has the support to do whatever he wants to Iran -- with one giant caveat. It is the United States that can tie his hands, not other Israeli politicians, which appears to be what is happening.

On Palestinian issues, there is little difference between Netanyahu and Mofaz. Although Mofaz emphasizes the urgency of an agreement with the Palestinians, and is more forthcoming than Netanyahu about territorial withdrawal, his record as Minister of Defense shows him to be utterly brutal in dealing with Palestinians.

Nonetheless, some ever-optimistic doves see the possibility known, in abbreviated form, as Nixon/China.

Once President Richard Nixon was confident about his political future he threw over his old allies on the right and pursued the normalization of relations with China. In fact, he stood the world on its head by actually going to China, a scenario impossible to imagine until Nixon did it.

The Nixon/China analogy fails with Netanyahu for one reason: Nixon wanted to go to China. Netanyahu does not want to end the occupation or reduce tensions with Iran.

If Nixon had spent his first three years in office demonstrating unrelenting hostility to China, he would not have been able to make his historic trip. Instead, quietly, he laid the groundwork.

Netanyahu? Come on.

Looking at it from the other side, there is nothing that earth-shaking either. Writing in the Washington Post, Fareed Zakaria says that Israel is "now stronger than ever."

That view is also common in right-wing circles. Netanyahu is now the master of all he sees. And with him, Israel itself.

This might be true in some other time when nations were isolated from developments in other countries. The United States, separated by two oceans from Europe, was relatively isolated from the wars of the "Old World" until after World War 1. Obviously, FDR's United States was very much affected by events far away, which has been the case ever since.

As for Israel, its future (and its present) is affected by decisions made by Palestinians, Egyptians, Lebanese, Syrians, and Jordanians, (to name a few). Then there is Hamas and Hezbollah, and even Fatah.

Those are just the Arabs. Add the Iranians and Turks to the mix and it becomes even more clear that those who think a cosmetic change in Israel's government makes it "stronger than ever" are either blowing smoke or are just putting out the safe conventional wisdom.

No, it is not 1938 or 1942 as Prime Minister Netanyahu loves to say, and thank God for that. But neither is Israel some secure outpost that can continue to do whatever it wants, to whoever it chooses, whenever it wants to.

It has exactly one friend in the world and exactly two peace treaties with its neighbors (the more important of which, the peace treaty with Egypt, looks to be on its death bed).

Rather than pat himself on the back for creating a strong coalition, Netanyahu should strive to create a strong Israel. That, however, would require peace. And peace requires ending the occupation. That will not happen under this prime minister.

The new coalition is of no significance whatsoever.

 

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A Jew with a View
Act justly, love mercy, walk humbly
05:54 PM on 05/13/2012
"Governments have all kinds of partners in their ruling coalitions; what matters is the policies the coalition adopts -- not the views of its various components." MJ Rosenberg writiing on "Who Cares If Hamas Recognizes Israel?. HP May 11, 2011.

Since we have yet to learn what the policies that this coalition has yet to adopt, Rosenberg seems precoccupied by the individual players. I wish he would be more consistent.
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Kramerica-Industries
And with Darren’s help, we’ll get that chicken
04:08 AM on 05/13/2012
You end your piece by writing that Israel's peace deal with Egypt is on it's death bed because the Islamic party there is likely to get hold of power and cancel it.
and a sentences later you claim that the only way to achieve a strong Israel is to sign a peace deal with current Palestinian government.
I mean seriously can't you see how that would be hard for people to swallow. Why should Israel put itself in a much more dangerous situation giving away so much for a peace which is only a piece of paper which can be canceled the moment the Islamic party of Hamas wins the elections.
Instead what you should be writing is that if the United States and the rest of the world really wants to assure Israel would put its trust in peace agreements with neighboring Arabs we must come down hard on Egypt and make sure they follow the peace agreement to the last clause.
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NorthernBorder
10:06 AM on 05/12/2012
The coalition is less strong than meets the eye. There are the religous parties who are resisting being called into army as per demands of the Supreme court
There are the extreme settlers in govt who have to accept the govt removing settlement on private arab land - also supreme court
Lieberman is about to be arraigned for a hundred multi million shekel crimes
There is a huge chasm between Likud (tea party) and Kadima(center maybe) on social issues.
Both the biggest parties Likud and Kadima want to change the hilarious voting system.
And many other stuff I cant remember.
The coalition at this incredulous number is definately not hard fact
If there is a scene with Iran everything may change off course. (maybe a lot less voters for one)
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Geo80
Truth. Reality. Smart, sane people agree with me
01:42 AM on 05/12/2012
The children of Jewish refugees now run tech companies (or whatever) in Israel.

The children of Palestinian refugees sit in poor conditions in Arab countries being lied to by crazed religious leaders about how they will somehow wipe the Jews out and turn Israel into Palestine.
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NorthernBorder
10:13 AM on 05/12/2012
while given a half a chance can send our stuff to them for outsourcing and much more, pulling out of 3rd world status in an hour and a half. Their hate (not all BTW) is so white that money instead of being used for the betterment of the population is squanderd on more and more weapons ( see Gaza)
or sending billions to Switzerland ( see Arafat and now mrs arafat)
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06:07 PM on 05/13/2012
another black/white view again.....we're great, they are scum.....what an EGO !
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austinreid
Cheers, Prost, Campai, L'chayim
10:02 PM on 05/11/2012
the "deal puts off the next election until 2013." Yes this deal made it so the elections did not have to take place before they were scheduled to in 2013. I don’t think put off is the right word it makes it seem as if the elections were moved from when they were supposed to take place till a later date that is not what happened. Also, this is the largest coalition in at least 30 years its very remarkable. Fareed Zakaria is NOT a Conservative far from it I also think he has far more credentials then the author of this article.
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discocapper
Israel Only Fires Back!
02:33 AM on 05/12/2012
In his pinkie alone.
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dougsabbag
Bostonian / American
03:37 PM on 05/11/2012
ALL of the violence of this vicious cycle of casulaties, on BOTH sides will only end when the oppression and the plight of the refugees is RESOLVED.

And that can only be accomplished through fair actions based upon Justice for ALL, not on bullets, and not on offers with a rifle to their heads.

The sickening part is how some people try to rationalize NOT applying Justice for ALL and equality under the law to human beings within a society.

ALL humans deserve nothing less.
Rosin the Bow
Palestine doesn't want peace. Meshaal said so
04:16 PM on 05/11/2012
How does serially lying about the causes of this conflict promote "Justice for ALL"?
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dougsabbag
Bostonian / American
07:06 PM on 05/11/2012
If anyone is "lying" it is you since you "act" as though you are a supporter of Israel however in reality you don't think they deserve Justice for ALL, and the resultant peaceful co-existence which I think they DESERVE.

Since EVERYONE deserves that, except perhaps an anti-semite.....
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06:09 PM on 05/13/2012
let me get this straight....'You' are talking about lying....?!?!
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erehwon2
04:23 PM on 05/11/2012
"ALL humans deserve nothing less."

Except for Israelis who, according to Doug, deserve to have rockets shot at their kindergartens and school buses, families including infants slaughtered in their beds, and any other acts of violence against innocent civilians which Doug views as "justice."

Such a humanitarian...
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dougsabbag
Bostonian / American
04:27 PM on 05/11/2012
Is that what I said? No it is NOT. However, by your reasoning, Israelis don't deserve Justice too?

Strange, as a supporter of Israel, I would think you would support them enjoying the fruits and the peaceful co-existence of Justice for ALL, and equality under the law, as these principles provide the basis for humans to achieve and to enjoy.
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dougsabbag
Bostonian / American
04:34 PM on 05/11/2012
In fact, if "erehwon2" does NOT support Justice for ALL and Equality under the Law being embodied and enforced in Israel, than YOU are actually the one here who believes that the Israelis deserve to continue to exist within a war zone of conflcit as they have throughout their ENTIRE EXISTENCE!

Sad, very sad.... I would think that you would want better lives for them, with a true opportunity for them ALL to achieve a peaceful co-existence.

So why don't you want Israelis to achieve a true sustainable peaceful co-existence in their homeland? Are you an anti-semite?
02:58 PM on 05/11/2012
When it comes to dispossessing Palestinians of their land, it has made no difference whether the party in power in Israel was "left" or "right" wing. There is a remarkable consensus of agreement amongst nearly all shades of Zionists on this issue, and this is not something new.

"The fact of the matter is that the Israeli Labour party has supported all the wars Israel has waged, and actually ran and instigated most of them. The two latest gory interventions, in Lebanon in 2006 and in Gaza this year, were both orchestrated by Labour ministers of defence, Amir Peretz and Barak. Paying lip service to the division of Palestine while planning and propagating territorial expansionism and land-grabbing has been the policy of the Labour party ever since the early days of the Zionist movement..."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/mar/26/israel-labour-binyamin-netanyahu-ehud-barak

For those who believe that "liberal" values and Zionism (as currently articulated) can coexist:

"It is time for any Israeli with an enlightened self-image to look at the mirror and see Avigdor Lieberman staring back. It is time to stop the procrastination over the question whether Israel can be both Jewish and democratic ... It is time to stop fidgeting, and to admit that mono-ethnicism cannot be a framework for liberal values ... It is time to rethink Zionism."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/feb/16/israelandthepalestinians-israeli-elections-2009
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Geo80
Truth. Reality. Smart, sane people agree with me
05:10 PM on 05/11/2012
The Palestinians are on their land right now, actually.

That's why they're still there.
04:05 PM on 05/12/2012
And that land is in Israel. To change their status they should apply for Israeli CITIZENSHIP and pledge allegiance to the State of Israel. I have had to do that in the U.S., and also in The Netherlands, apply for citizenship and pledge allegiance. Goes together.

Palestinians/Arabs, and others, in Israel have an opportunity to apply for CITIZENSHIP there if they reside there. They have citizenship if they are born there. They are DENIED such opportunities, as well as voting rights anywhere OUTSIDE of Israel.

Palestinians do not WANT to be Israelis. That is their choice. The results are they forego any rights associated with citizenship. They would encounter the same situation if they lived in the U.S. or a number of other nations. The remedy is to change their mind, to accept the situation as is, or to move elsewhere. That is, if they wish to change their status. There are people, the woprld over, who live either illegally, or as legal residents, in countries of which they are not citizens. That inevitably involves a lack of rights accorded to citizens, but also duties, such as serving in the military.
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austinreid
Cheers, Prost, Campai, L'chayim
10:08 PM on 05/11/2012
Has Israel ever started a war unprovoked? Tell me in your mind how many rockets had to be fired indiscriminately into Israel before Israel had the right to invade since you don’t think hundreds of rocket attacks were enough to warrant an invasion?
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hmp49
I....have a mole?
10:26 PM on 05/11/2012
For all those morally superior Americans - how many attacks on US soil did it take to get the US to spend 10 years killing Afghan and Iraqi civilians (when the Afghans and Iraqis were not even involved - in stark contrast to continuing attacks by the Palestinians)

Stated another way, how many missiles from Mexico would it take before the US responded?
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bad spelling grammar
Help save Big Cats from extinction!
02:07 PM on 05/11/2012
nice democracy LOL
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dougsabbag
Bostonian / American
03:31 PM on 05/11/2012
Whereas millions of people under the authority of Israel can not vote in Israeli elections, that is not democracy at all.
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08:58 PM on 05/11/2012
As with other sovereign nations, only citizens can vote. In this case, that would be those who have pledged loyalty to Israel.
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hmp49
I....have a mole?
10:30 PM on 05/11/2012
The US has 737 military bases in countries around the world. How many of those people get to vote in US elections?

http://www.alternet.org/story/47998/

Moreover, Gaza and the West Bank have their own governments. Should Israelis get to vote in their elections?

Your comment makes no sense.
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austinreid
Cheers, Prost, Campai, L'chayim
10:10 PM on 05/11/2012
Yes look at all the diverse parties working together I wish we could do that we can’t even get our two parties to agree on anything besides supporting Israel of course. Support for Israel is the only bi-partisan issue in Washington today.
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bad spelling grammar
Help save Big Cats from extinction!
12:44 PM on 05/14/2012
because Israel lobbies to both parties, its easy to understand
12:26 PM on 05/11/2012
You don't have to read the article to know what it it contains,. Namely, the usual paint-by-the numbers shouting at Israeli Jews.
12:46 PM on 05/11/2012
Actually it's a pretty good article. One day, when you grow up.......
01:18 PM on 05/11/2012
Not surprising you like it, given how much you adore David Irving writings.I hope to never "grow up" to that
12:52 PM on 05/11/2012
Yeah, because so much of the American media is doing honest journalism, and if honest journalism does occur, like the 60 minutes piece, threats are issued.
02:12 PM on 05/11/2012
"So American media is doing honest journalism."
I disagree especially after reading the above article.
Rosin the Bow
Palestine doesn't want peace. Meshaal said so
02:17 PM on 05/11/2012
So by "honest" journalism, you mean anti-Israel journalism?
12:11 PM on 05/11/2012
Kadima used to be part of Likud. They got back together again. So what? After all, Kadima was founded by Sharon, the butcher of Lebanon war!

Adjectives like "dove" "hawkish" applied to Israelis sound very laughable.
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hmp49
I....have a mole?
10:33 PM on 05/11/2012
"Sharon, the butcher of Lebanon war"

I call BS. How about laying the blame where it belongs, on the Lebanese Christians?

Nah, who care about Arabs killing other Arabs.
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12:35 AM on 05/12/2012
The Kahan Commission also concluded that Defense Minister Ariel Sharon bore personal responsibility "for ignoring the danger of bloodshed and revenge" and "not taking appropriate measures to prevent bloodshed". The commission recommended in early 1983 the removal of Sharon from his post as Defense minister and never hold public office again.

Sharon initially refused to resign as Defense Minister and Prime Minister Menachem Begin refused to fire him. After a grenade was tossed into a dispersing crowd of an Israeli Peace Now march, killing Emil Grunzweig and injuring 10 others, a compromise was reached: Sharon agreed to forfeit the post of Defense Minister but stayed in the cabinet as a Minister without Portfolio.

On 18 June 2001 relatives of the victims of the Sabra massacre began proceedings in Belgium to have Sharon indicted on war crimes charges. Elie Hobeika, the leader of the Phalange militia who carried out the massacres, was assassinated in January 2001, several months before he was scheduled to testify against Sharon for the trial.
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NorthernBorder
04:18 AM on 05/13/2012
I was always not a supportet of Sharon - he nearly killed me in 73 for one. But was always absolutely against his ideology. He wasnt found guity by the Israel commision for Sara and Shatila but was not allowed to be a Defence minister again ( this after demos of hundreds of thousands in favt the larget demo in our history probably way over 350000) No one said he or the IDF was respnsable. The story is too long to explain now. But he wasnt a butcher in Lebanon. During 73 war he got a battalion of paratroopers to hold up Egyptian tanks while getting a crossing-force to the canal.The paratroopers while fighting the Egyptian could see out tanks facing the other way behind them. Many died and those who didnt suffer from PTSD to this day. It was called the Chinese Farm.Their 1st and 2nd armies were closing together. Many say it was a brave move. Not those who are dead.Many of us who were in this war have never forgiven him.
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11:26 AM on 05/11/2012
In 1951, the Bantu Authorities Act established a basis for ethnic government in African reserves, known as ``homelands.'' These homelands were independent states to which each African was assigned by the government according to the record of origin. All political rights, including voting, held by an African were restricted to the designated homeland. The idea was that they would be citizens of the homeland, losing their citizenship in South Africa and any right of involvement with the South African Parliament which held complete hegemony over the homelands. From 1976 to 1981, four of these homelands were created, denationalizing nine million South Africans. The homeland administrations refused the nominal independence, maintaining pressure for political rights within the country as a whole. Nevertheless, Africans living in the homelands needed passports to enter South Africa: aliens in their own country.
Rosin the Bow
Palestine doesn't want peace. Meshaal said so
11:51 AM on 05/11/2012
Tedious but less ignorant.
12:28 PM on 05/11/2012
Oh so now Taxim is not interested in an independent Palestinian state. How irrational.
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notmisaacm
That which is attributed to malice is often explai
10:45 AM on 05/11/2012
Rosenberg seems almost sad that Israel is stronger than ever. Shows you where his sympathies lie.
12:29 PM on 05/11/2012
Alliance with right-wing Islamists is the doctrine many liberals adhere to.
02:54 PM on 05/11/2012
"Alliance with right-wing Islamists is the doctrine many liberals adhere to".

The above sentence, is spin at it's best. Excellent, well done.
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06:44 PM on 05/13/2012
more silly baloney
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dougsabbag
Bostonian / American
03:30 PM on 05/11/2012
Military strength which supports the adherance to oppressive abuse of people is nothing to applaud.
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hmp49
I....have a mole?
10:48 PM on 05/12/2012
"Military strength which supports the adherance (sic) to oppressive abuse of people is nothing to applaud."

You must really be annoyed with the US.

You know, that shining example you keep holding up?

Regularly killing Afghan civilians, after killing 600,000 Iraqi civilians, missiles attacking Pakistan on a weekly basis, sanction hits on our our citizens (Anwar Al-walaki). And of course we can go just a little further back to list all the democratically elected leaders the US has killed and replaced with repressive regimes (Allende, Lumumba, Ngo Dinh Diem...etc etc etc).

Apparently, you know as little about what the US does as you know about what Turkey does.
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dougsabbag
Bostonian / American
09:54 AM on 05/11/2012
Regardless of this new coalition, until Israel seriously works toward RESOLVING the conflict between their Zionist aspirations and their victims along the way, they will continue to exist within a war zone of hatred and violence. THAT should be a top priority to resolve and would be a tremendous plus for Israelis, Jews, Zionists, Palestinians, and the WORLD.

I have repeatedly posted how, (and nobody can dispute), the current usage of bullets over 70 + years, has NOT resolved this conflict.

It should be suggested (for EVERYONES') best interests, replacing bullets with Justice for ALL as the wiser choice to resolve this multi decade conflict between human beings.

And nobody should be able to argue against the value of ALL Israelis and their non-citizens being improved through the application of Justice for ALL.
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erehwon2
10:52 AM on 05/11/2012
Yeah, Doug, we've read your innumerable posts calling for "justice for ALL" and that "bullets...have not resolved the conflict." Yet in EVERY SINGLE POST, you place the entire blame for the situation and the entire onus for solving it on Israel.

Until you also can call for the Palestinians to stop THEIR usage of bullets (and rockets, and rocks, etc.) and for them also to work toward a peaceful solution, all your faux humane comments fool no one into thinking that your calls for justice and peace for "ALL" actually include Israelis as well.
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dougsabbag
Bostonian / American
12:57 PM on 05/11/2012
Asking the victims of hundreds of massacres, oppression for decades, theft of their land, living in refugee status to lay down their paltry weapons, (compared to the IDF armaments including nuclear arms), is ludicrous, until the Israelis stop abusing them, oppressing them, occupying them, blockading them, and even massacring them every so often.

The aggressor has to stop first, then the defenders can too.
11:00 AM on 05/11/2012
x2 doug
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erehwon2
09:42 AM on 05/11/2012
"Fareed Zakaria says that Israel is "now stronger than ever.""

It's amazing how even such a possibility, with the addition of a large moderate faction to Israel's ruling coalition, elicits such a strong negative reaction from people who claim to be pro-Israel and/or pro-peace. It reveals their true agenda to be quite the opposite.
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09:53 AM on 05/11/2012
You might want to actually read or watch what Zakari said as oppose to just clipping a sound bite out of context.
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erehwon2
11:00 AM on 05/11/2012
I have read it. Unlike Rosenberg, Zakaria sees this new coalition and new strength as positive and remains at least open, if not expectant, to the possibility that Netanyahu will use this to act in a responsible and forward-thinking manner, especially in regards to Iran and the Palestinians.
Rosin the Bow
Palestine doesn't want peace. Meshaal said so
11:02 AM on 05/11/2012
Tell that to MJ Rosenberg.
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10:00 AM on 05/11/2012
As the author pointed out, this alliance does nothing to end the ongoing persecution of Palestinians. And as Mr. Rosenberg also points out, Mofaz does not have the record of a moderate, he engaged in brutality of the most extreme sort against the Palestinians.
Rosin the Bow
Palestine doesn't want peace. Meshaal said so
10:49 AM on 05/11/2012
Yes because no Israelis believe the Palestinians want peace.
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Tel Aviv dude
09:04 AM on 05/11/2012
PLO Charter of 1964 Article 24: "This Organization does not exercise any regional sovereignty over the West Bank in the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan, on the Gaza Strip or the Himmah Area. Its activities will be on the national popular level in the liberational, organizational, political and financial fields."

How come the original PLO founders claim they have no historical claim to the land but some online posters think otherwise? Inb4 I am a Hasbara, paid by Mossad, Evil Juice trooper, ect, ect.
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09:16 AM on 05/11/2012
"PLO founders claim they have no historical claim to the land"
Assuming facts not in evidence.
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Tel Aviv dude
11:04 AM on 05/11/2012
I see what you did here. Lets quote the exact charter again.
" This organization DOES NOT exercise any regional SOVEREIGNTY over the West Bank... ... Gaza Strip...."
Can you please explain this to me please?
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dougsabbag
Bostonian / American
09:47 AM on 05/11/2012
Because the FAMILIES who are REFUGEES still point to THEIR "confiscated" homes and lands as a basic injustice perpetrated upon them by the Zionists.

That's why.
Rosin the Bow
Palestine doesn't want peace. Meshaal said so
09:54 AM on 05/11/2012
But it's not a basic injustice. It's the consequences of the war they started.

But I'm glad you admit ending the occupation will not end the conflict.
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h111aryc1inton
Just trying to tell the truth
10:09 AM on 05/11/2012
Sorry Doug - the majority of refugees voluntarily left their homes with the intent of returning after they assisted in the destruction of the newly found Israel and the murder of the Jews...

Sometimes you bet against the house and the house wins - time to move on.