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MJ Rosenberg

MJ Rosenberg

Posted: January 18, 2011 03:42 PM

If the Palestinians go ahead with their plans to declare a state later this year, the United States should recognize it.

There really is no good reason not to.

After all, ever since the days of Lyndon B. Johnson, presidents from both parties have expressed support for the return of the occupied territories in exchange for peace. No nation, other than Israel itself, recognizes any of that land -- including Arab East Jerusalem -- as part of Israel. And the United Nations, which issued Israel its birth certificate in 1947, appears ready to do the same for the State of Palestine this summer.

It was once widely assumed that creation of the Palestinian state would be negotiated between Israelis and Palestinians. No more. The final nail in the direct-negotiations coffin was driven by Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu when he coldly rejected President Obama's offer of an extra $3.5 billion in U.S. aid in exchange for a 90-day settlement freeze.

Netanyahu couldn't even bring himself to explicitly reject an offer he considered so contemptible. He just left it (and President Obama) dangling in the wind while he issued more building permits for settlers and expulsion orders for Palestinians.

It is now clear that although Israel would like to achieve peace with the Palestinians, it is not willing to pay much of a price for it. It will not even negotiate over Arab East Jerusalem. It intends to keep not only the West Bank settlements but also the lands and fields near those settlements -- plus the settlers-only highways that connect the settlements. It will not free blockaded Gaza from its grip, maintaining full control over its airspace, seaports, and land entry points.

Israel may consider giving up some land that is heavily populated by Palestinians and that no settler desires for his own. But it will not agree to a contiguous West Bank/Gaza Palestinian state, as is obvious from its demand that the mega-settlement of Ariel, smack-dab in the middle of the West Bank, become part of Israel.

No wonder the Palestinian Authority has given up on negotiations. It is unwilling to negotiate the terms of its own surrender -- not when there are other alternatives.

The best alternative is a U.S.-brokered settlement that would establish a State of Palestine, with contiguous borders, alongside Israel. East Jerusalem would be the Palestinian capital. In exchange, Israel would get the two things it has always insisted are the only demands it makes of the Arabs: secure, recognized borders and security guarantees from the United States. (The security of the Palestinian state would also be guaranteed.)

This is not some pie-in-the-sky idea. As early as 2002, the entire Arab world signed on to the Saudi plan (later renamed the Arab League Initiative), which offered Israel not only recognition and peace but full normalization in exchange for establishment of the State of Palestine. The Palestinians immediately accepted the offer. Israel ignored it, followed by the United States.

The few changes since then have been for the worse. The current Israeli government has no interest in any plan that requires withdrawal. As for the United States, it can be expected to be even more timid than usual in the two years prior to election day 2012. Additionally, U.S. policy toward Israel and Palestine is in the hands of White House aide Dennis Ross, who unambiguously supports Israeli positions on pretty much everything.

This all means that the Palestinians may have to take matters into their own hands by unilaterally declaring the establishment of a state in the West Bank, Gaza, and East Jerusalem with the blessing of the United Nations.

Some say that a unilateral Palestinian declaration of statehood would lead to war (much as Israel's unilateral declaration of statehood led to war in 1948). That could be true.

A furious Israel could abolish the Palestinian Authority, assume direct control over all the territories and attempt to govern millions of Palestinians without the assistance of the exceedingly compliant Palestinian Authority.

But that would surely lead to the Palestinians going back to the United Nations and demanding the right not to statehood but to full citizenship in Israel -- including the right to vote. That is the last thing Israel wants -- a Palestinian majority in the Jewish state.

More likely, Israel would have to negotiate with the new Palestinian state as one government negotiates with another. No longer would the Palestinians be beggars asking for a few crumbs at the table. No, suddenly the playing field would be leveled, at least somewhat.

In the context of those state-to-state negotiations, the two sides could decide on permanent borders and security arrangements that satisfy both sides. More than likely, some Israeli settlements would remain in exchange for an equal amount of territory inside Israel. The negotiators would also decide on the modalities of sharing Jerusalem as the capital of two states.

There are two significant obstacles to this proposal. The first is that, pressured by AIPAC and its congressional cutouts, the United States could announce in advance that it will block (with a veto, if necessary) any unilateral declaration. Those who support an end to the conflict should start working now on deterring the Obama administration from announcing that it will, despite all its promises, veto Palestinian statehood to please the lobby.

The second problem is the nature of the two Palestinian governments that control the West Bank and Gaza today. Neither is democratic. Both are authoritarian. There is no indication that either would improve should statehood come into being.

That is why following establishment of the state, the entire Palestinian people would have to vote for new leadership. It is safe to assume that under free and fair elections (closely monitored), neither Hamas nor Fatah would win outright. The only thing most Palestinians like about Fatah is that it's not Hamas; the only thing most like about Hamas is that it's not Fatah.

But first things first. The United States should either lay a plan on the table and demand its implementation, or the Palestinians should declare full independence, with negotiations with Israel to follow. And the United States should support them.

Forty-four years of occupation is enough, for both Palestinians and Israelis. And it's time for America to keep its promises.

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Debussey Clidela
02:08 PM on 01/26/2011
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“After learn­ing of J Street’s cur­rent pub­lic call for the Obama Admin­is­tra­tion to not veto a prospec­tive UN Secu­rity Coun­cil res­o­lu­tion that, under the rubric of con­cern about set­tle­ment activ­ity, would effec­tively and unjustly place the whole respon­si­bil­ity for the cur­rent impasse in the peace process on Israel, and–critically–would give fresh and pow­er­ful impe­tus to the effort to inter­na­tion­ally iso­late and dele­git­imize Israel, I’ve come to the con­clu­sion that J-Street is not an orga­ni­za­tion with which I wish to be asso­ci­ated.
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Jezreel
Think. Act. Live wisely.
12:32 AM on 01/22/2011
Great article, M.J. I concur with all of your assertions and share your sentiments that for the Palestinians, a Resolution declaring Palestinian Statehood by the U.N. is their only viable option for transitioning from the occupation.

As I have often said, as long as Fatah, the Israeli-U.S. appointed, marionette, West Bank, authoritarian government is forced to grovel at the feet of its puppeteers for crumbs, it will never, ever earn the respect of either the Arab states or its occupiers. And it will never negotiate on a level playing field for the liberation of its people.
Thelonius
Lived in Middle East for
12:21 AM on 01/22/2011
Please take the time to watch this brief video. While shocking, it is informative and insightful regarding the mentality of Jewish settlers in the occupied West Bank.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqJ-JR_vBo0
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Jezreel
Think. Act. Live wisely.
12:36 AM on 01/22/2011
Thanks for the link, Thelonius. F & F
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fairwayhill
1948 Palestine belongs to the Palestinians
01:18 PM on 01/21/2011
Still Palestine belongs to the Palestinia­ns.
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nypoet22
Psychology Ph.D., Civics Teacher, Songwriter
02:32 PM on 01/21/2011
a major geopolitical conflict will not be solved with campaign slogans.
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fairwayhill
1948 Palestine belongs to the Palestinians
05:16 PM on 01/21/2011
Really? cuz ... you know better how the Palestinian refugees will return to their homes in 1948 Palestine, ... dontcha?
10:14 AM on 01/21/2011
As we all know, The U.N. partition plan in '47 was rejected by Palestinian Arabs, accepted by Israel, The Arabs chose War, and lost, and Israel assured its existence ever since. The U.N. to try and decide land disputes for a Sovereign State would be opening up a Pandora's box. To avoid double standard then they would be asked to decide every land dispute in existence. This would create havoc especially when certain States have advantage with being in Security Council. The only way the U.S. would approve of such an agreement is only if Israel first would be satisfied with the agreement on the table. The borders are not the biggest issue's, so if Israel would agree to the proposed borders, then there would be no reason not to have a bilateral agreement, which already has been offered to the Palestinians. So it seems like circular reasoning and redundancy to ask the U.N. to decide the borders, and exclude every other issue, including East Jerusalem.
11:09 AM on 01/21/2011
q> The U.N. partition plan in '47 was
q> rejected by Palestinia­n Arabs

Which Palestinian Arabs rejected it?

I wonder if the UN decided to divide your house into two, and gave the upper part to some immigrants, and allowed you to keep the basement- I wonder if you would reject that plan?
11:12 AM on 01/21/2011
q> then there would be no reason not to have
q> a bilateral agreement, which already has
q> been offered to the Palestinia­ns.

Israel has ***NEVER*** offered to give back the land it stole- NEVER.

What is needed is  the unilateral declaration- approval from Israel is not required. Israel has had 43+ years; this will take one year.
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nypoet22
Psychology Ph.D., Civics Teacher, Songwriter
06:18 AM on 01/21/2011
declarations don't mean diddly unless the people on the ground abide by them. make no mistake, the continued settlement construction is wrong and needs to be reversed. but it won't be stopped by threats, sanctions, UN resolutions or unilateral declarations. anyone who thinks those things will work doesn't know israelis.

only a deep commitment to nonviolence will take the air out of this conservative escalation and turn things back toward a just resolution.
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Shingo
07:08 AM on 01/21/2011
Intersting post nypoet,

But I have to disagree with your latter argumnt. Israel don't understand nonviolenc­e. They feed of it, and in it's absence, they will create it. It's what they did in 2008 when the ceasefire with Hamas was working too well.
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nypoet22
Psychology Ph.D., Civics Teacher, Songwriter
08:09 AM on 01/21/2011
disciplined, nonviolent resistance/civil disobedience is the single most effective tool to convince ordinary israelis to vote in a new government that will behave more reasonably. anything else will just feed the narrative of the extremists and make things worse.
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TheLonelyGod
The oncoming storm
10:35 AM on 01/21/2011
"Israel don't understand nonviolenc­­e. They feed of it, and in it's absence, they will create it"

If someone said that about Arabs you would scream "racist!"
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Kramerica-Industries
And with Darren’s help, we’ll get that chicken
04:42 AM on 01/21/2011
What happens when a Jew trys to drive on a "Palestinians only road" in Jerusalem.
Notice how many photographers were there in advance.

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/00Ykg2FgvV1cP/610x.jpg

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Shingo
06:33 AM on 01/21/2011
I's probably do the same thing if my house was demolished and my family evicted from their home.
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Kramerica-Industries
And with Darren’s help, we’ll get that chicken
06:54 AM on 01/21/2011
You are talking about the Jews of the Gaza strip and West Bank?
How many of the people throwing rocks or cheering for them you think were evicted from their homes?
B'Tselem Statistics on demolition of houses built without permits in East Jerusalem
years 1992-2010
Total number of houses demolished 553
Number of people 2004-2010 1,438
Jews whos home were demolished and were evicted of Gaza 8,600.
http://www.btselem.org/english/planning_and_building/east_jerusalem_statistics.asp
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Shingo
07:21 AM on 01/21/2011
"How many of the people throwing rocks or cheering for them you think were evicted from their homes?"

Who knows? How many of them have a bother or a father who was killed, or a family who was evidected, or a mother who was humilated at a check point.

"B'Tselem Statistics on demolition of houses built without permits in East Jerusalem
years 1992-2010"

Actually the figure is 688.

And how many people were simply evicted?

"Jews whos home were demolished and were evicted of Gaza 8,600."

According to what source? Nothing is mentioned in your link.
02:15 PM on 01/21/2011
q> What happens when a Jew trys to
q> drive on a "Palestini­ans only road"


Mindful of the "Whites Only" roads in South Africa.

Gosh, the world is going to hell in hen basket!  Why oh why cannot all people recognize and appreciate bigotry for what it is?
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Kramerica-Industries
And with Darren’s help, we’ll get that chicken
04:29 AM on 01/21/2011
"In exchange, Israel would get the two things it has always insisted are the only demands it makes of the Arabs: secure, recognized borders and security guarantees from the United States. (The security of the Palestinian state would also be guaranteed.)"

How will Israel get secured borders while Hamas controls Gaza?
There are very few people even in the Israeli left wing still naive enough to think a final settlement with the Palestinians will end attacks from Palestine onto Israel.
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Shingo
06:31 AM on 01/21/2011
"How will Israel get secured borders while Hamas controls Gaza?'

There's no such thing a secured borders. Just ask the parents of the330 children Israel massacred in 2009.
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Kramerica-Industries
And with Darren’s help, we’ll get that chicken
06:46 AM on 01/21/2011
So you are saying the Palestinians have nothing to offer ?
11:42 PM on 01/21/2011
If Israel wants secure borders.
Why does it build Jewish only housing and outposts on in Palestine?
It is a land grab.
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Debussey Clidela
08:44 PM on 01/20/2011
More than 60% of the Palestinian Authority's Gross National Product comes from the United States, European Union, United Nations, World Bank and others countries, according to a study conducted by economic analyst Eyal Ofer in cooperation with President of Financial Immunities consulting firm Adam Roiter.

According to the study's findings, during 2009 and 2010 the PA's reliance on donations increased – with a 20% growth in donations, totaling some $3.96 per year.

In real values, the scope of donations more than doubled within a period of four years.

The research, similarly to OECD reports, points to the PA's steadily increasing dependence on donation funds. In fact, the Palestinian people receive the largest amount of donations worldwide.

For every Palestinian citizen, the PA receives an average of $1,000 per annum, which amounts to an average of ILS 2,000 (about $560) per family, per month. The data reinforces the claim that there is no Palestinian economy, and that in reality is almost exclusively supported by the donation industry.
09:27 PM on 01/20/2011
q> More than 60% of the Palestinia­n Authority'­s Gross
q> National Product comes from the United States

Israel got three billion from US taxpayers.

Notice how Debussey  avoids mentioning how many dollars the PA actually collected from US.- of the promised $500 million.

Notice that most of this $500 will be dedicated to making improvements to the things that Israel (which will get over $3000 million) BLEW UP in Cast Lead.

Gosh:  isn't this fun for the US taxpayer?  They first off pay Israel billions of dollars and Israel rewards us by blowing up things we have paid for and- this is the fun part- Israel then asks for more money to replace all the weapons they used to blow up the things US taxpapers paid for (or US investors invested in, such as the power station).
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YafoDalet
a secular Jew
05:41 AM on 01/21/2011
I remember you tried to teach me math. Let me return you a favor. $3 billion out of $195 is 1.5%, not 60%.
09:39 PM on 01/20/2011
q> For every Palestinia­n citizen, the PA receives an average of $1,000 per annum,

The median family income in Israel is $38.000.

The question is:  why does the American taxpayer give Israel a nickel?
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lbsaltzman
Permaculture and Sustainability
12:07 AM on 01/21/2011
A good question for which there is no good answer. Our funding of Israel is insane.
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TheLonelyGod
The oncoming storm
10:36 AM on 01/21/2011
Read the book "the 36 billion dollar bargain."

You do read books right BF?
08:40 PM on 01/20/2011
Let's look at the facts on the ground. There are no direct or even indirect negotiations. Israel is expanding the settlements at an accelerated pace. So any move by the US to veto an attempt to stop the expansion actually means that the US--unwillingly perhaps--provides the green light for the continuation of the occupation and for the expansion of the illegal settlements. That is the only true interpretation of such a veto. In what we call "End Result Test", the occupation & colonialism continues.
President Obama, you have the power the stop it. Please do not veto the resolution.
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Json
Cynical dreamer, sarcastic idealist...
04:47 PM on 01/20/2011
I love the reasoning you need to employ to think this is a good idea...
If Israel doesn't recognize the establishment of the state and moves to take control of the territories...no problem. The Palestinians would go to the UN, who would then force Israel to give the Palestinians full citizenship.
So the author thinks that while is it quite likely that Israel would not accept UN recognition of the Palestinian state, but they would accept the UN's determination that Palestinians should be given full citizenship??
Regardless of your view on the conflict, that is laughable.

Yet another pundit who, safely from the sidelines, boldly advocates positions that even acknowledges will likely lead to war.

And to those that are concerned that Palestine will be a semi-dictatorship...no problem. Israel has no worries about security, because the Palestinians will surely elect good democratic leaders (assuming their current leaders allow them to hold an election again. )It is apparently "safe to assume" that, for reasons largely unexplained.
05:51 PM on 01/20/2011
q> So the author thinks that while is it quite likely
q> that Israel would not accept UN recognitio­n

Israel has had more than 40 years to recognize Palestine and for the last twenty years has know what terms were needed to have peace in the Middle East. 

Israel is more comfortable mooching billions of dollars from the US and using those billions of dollars to hold onto land they stole in the war they started.

Palestine is not going to ask Israel for concessions any more.
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Json
Cynical dreamer, sarcastic idealist...
06:13 PM on 01/20/2011
"Israel has had more than 40 years to recognize Palestine"

Recognize what? There was no state of Palestine. Israel should have told a bunch of Jordanians and Egyptians that they are now the state of Palestine? That would have gone over great.

"land they stole in the war they started."

Which war did they start? You mean the one where Egypt committed an act of war and closed the straits of tiran, while amassing troops on the border and signing a pact with jordan and syria?

"Palestine is not going to ask Israel for concession­s any more."

OK. So you can speak for them now? So when are they going to hold elections?
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Debussey Clidela
08:46 PM on 01/20/2011
More than 60% of the Palestinian Authority's Gross National Product comes from the United States, European Union, United Nations, World Bank and others countries, according to a study conducted by economic analyst Eyal Ofer in cooperation with President of Financial Immunities consulting firm Adam Roiter.

According to the study's findings, during 2009 and 2010 the PA's reliance on donations increased – with a 20% growth in donations, totaling some $3.96 per year.

In real values, the scope of donations more than doubled within a period of four years.

The research, similarly to OECD reports, points to the PA's steadily increasing dependence on donation funds. In fact, the Palestinian people receive the largest amount of donations worldwide.

For every Palestinian citizen, the PA receives an average of $1,000 per annum, which amounts to an average of ILS 2,000 (about $560) per family, per month. The data reinforces the claim that there is no Palestinian economy, and that in reality is almost exclusively supported by the donation industry.
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messy
artist, writer, adventurer
04:36 PM on 01/20/2011
the return was supposed to be in exchange for peace. Abbas and Hamas have refused. Same with Syria.
05:40 PM on 01/20/2011
Baloney.
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BcemXAHA
Yerushalaim shel zahav
06:35 PM on 01/20/2011
Truth.
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Shingo
07:37 PM on 01/20/2011
"Abbas and Hamas have refused. Same with Syria. "

False. As Rosenberg mentions in his article, 22 Arab States have signed a peace initiative offering to normalize relations and recognize Israel.

Israel has rejected it.
07:44 AM on 01/21/2011
And rightfully so, it was a one way, ultimatum nothing more. Palestinians/Arabs could of had their own State in 1937, 1947, 2000/2001, 2007 they refused all other peace offers. Never miss a opportunity to miss a opportunity.
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Greg Mirsky
Riga dimd, Riga dimd, Kas to Rigu dimdinaj?
04:35 PM on 01/20/2011
"... return of the occupied territories in exchange for peace ..."
Peace, peace with Israel - that's the cornerstone, the prerequisite for recognition of Arab state in Palestine by any responsible leader, sane politician. Since Arab leaders have not demonstrated ability to control their own population and even more, Arab leaders continue and encourage incitement and glorification of terrorism it would be wrong to recognize any unilateral declaration by Arab side.
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Shingo
04:53 PM on 01/20/2011
22 Arab Leades have singned a peace offer, which mornalizes relatins with Israel as well as recongizing it.

Israel has refused the offer since 2003. It's just goes to show who wants and doesn't want peace.
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tallen
panem et circenses
06:03 PM on 01/20/2011
That so called "offer" was an ultimatum.
They demand that Israel submit to all arab demands in return for a promise of "normamlized relations"...not even a guarantee of peace.
Secondly, those immediately on Israels borders refused to back the agreement. Both Hamas and Hezbollah refused to accept the plan, Syria expressed reservations, and Iran condemned it.
So, even if Israel acquiesced to ALL the demands, it would still not have peace.
Additionally---the arab plan called for Israel to uproot a half million people in return for a "promise". The arabs never spelled out any repercussions should they (the arabs) renege on that promise.
05:54 PM on 01/20/2011
q> Since Arab leaders have not demonstrat­ed ability

Since Israel has been doing its darnedest to disrupt the peace process for over 40 years,  it is long past time for Palestine to expect anything from these brutal occupiers.

The next step will be recognition by the EU.

It is not dissimilar to the occupation by the Soviets in the 90s.
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Greg Mirsky
Riga dimd, Riga dimd, Kas to Rigu dimdinaj?
06:35 PM on 01/20/2011
"It is not dissimilar to the occupation by the Soviets in the 90s"
Occupation of what exactly? Give you a hint, Soviet Union dissolved in 1991. That doesn't leave you much space, unless you're talking about 19th century (vbg).
04:21 PM on 01/20/2011
If the U.S won't stop the building of settlements in the West Bank (which is an unilateral move) then it shouldn't stop either the request to have the UN Security Council condemn those Israeli settlements (the request is also an unilateral move). Or if one is stopped, then shouldn't the other also be stopped ?
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messy
artist, writer, adventurer
04:37 PM on 01/20/2011
How they gonna do it, invade? Full scale nuclear war?
05:17 PM on 01/20/2011
Sanctions !
12:10 AM on 01/22/2011
Decent Israelis will change the existing bunch in power and do it.
09:12 PM on 01/20/2011
Now, no, hello there and here and everywhere. I am not for doing that. Hey, we are already involved in enough stews. I want my grandson to go to Israel, but for a visit, not to make unilateral, or any other *moves*. But, if you wish to move, I hear there is still some space in the scouts, maybe even the Marines, but, you will have to be quick. And my grandson's unit is fully booked for the next year or so. I would not be surprised if his unit goes back to Afghanistan. He has already been there, and knows that it makes a lot of noise shooting off that gun on top of a mountain without ear protection...ouch!! But, which other one should be moved, and where to? If I may ask? And how?
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StCuthbert
Anytime the mods are ready...
03:39 PM on 01/20/2011
Question: The settlements may be illegal. Some feel very strongly that they are. That's fine for now. But what's the harm? What's the problem, really, with homes and apartments being built on unowned land? You want to talk about settler violence, fine that's bad. You want to talk about forcing Palestinians out, fine that's bad. You want to talk about stealing private property, fine that's bad. But building homes, for peaceful people, on unowned land in the West Bank? What's the real problem there?
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Shingo
04:04 PM on 01/20/2011
StCuthbert,

There a countless propblems.

1. Building on someione else's land is anything but peaceful, which is why the 4th Geneva Convention ws created.
2. The terirtory is considered Palestinian where Palestinian homes are to be built. Palestinians are denied permits to build in these areas.
3. The homes are built on the best land with access to the West Bank's water sources, which the settlements annex and control.
4. To give acces to to he settlements, roads are created connecting them, which bisect the West Bank into non contiguous cantons.
5. To protect the settlements, the IDF stations troops at the periphery, who in turn, brutalize and oppress the Palestinian population
6. To protect the settlements, Israel continues it's apartheid wall to emcopass the settlements. The wall cuts 10 miles into Palestinian territory adn denies Palestinians access to their farms an orchards, thus forcing them to pass through check points.

Need I go on?
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StCuthbert
Anytime the mods are ready...
04:31 PM on 01/20/2011
"1. Building on someione else's land is anything but peaceful, which is why the 4th Geneva Convention ws created."

False. It's quite peaceful. It doesn't kill or injure anyone. And the West Bank is not "someone else's land".

"2. The terirtory is considered Palestinia­n where Palestinia­n homes are to be built. Palestinia­ns are denied permits to build in these areas."
Are Palestinians homeless because of the settlements? 

"3. The homes are built on the best land with access to the West Bank's water sources, which the settlement­s annex and control."
Are Palestinians dying of dehydration?

"4. To give acces to to he settlement­s, roads are created connecting them, which bisect the West Bank into non contiguous cantons.
5. To protect the settlement­s, the IDF stations troops at the periphery, who in turn, brutalize and oppress the Palestinia­n population
6. To protect the settlement­s, Israel continues it's apartheid wall to emcopass the settlement­s. The wall cuts 10 miles into Palestinia­n territory adn denies Palestinia­ns access to their farms an orchards, thus forcing them to pass through check points."

Then those are bad and should be removed. But they don't pertain to the settlements intrinsically.
04:50 PM on 01/20/2011
1. Professor of law Julian Stone, " Irony would thus be pushed to the absurdity of claiming that Article 49(6), designed to prevent repetition of Nazi-type genocidal policies of rendering Nazi metropolitan territories judenrein, has now come to mean that . . . the West Bank . . . must be made judenrein and must be so maintained, if necessary by the use of force by the government of Israel against its own inhabitants. Common sense as well as correct historical and functional context exclude so tyrannical a reading of Article 49(6)"
2. This area has no legal owner; the arabs rejected the UN partition plan and failed to set up and a state in the west bank, then jordan illegally occupied it, and then lost it after invading israel, being beaten, and retreating across the jordan river.
3. Completely untrue; while unequal water rights are an (exaggerated) concern, the "best land" meme is tired and untrue.
4. The roads were open to palestinians until the palestinians began shooting innocent civilians for traveling on them.
5. The problem is with the soldiers, not the settlements themselves.
6. The wall is hardly apartheid; there are many settlements outside of it. What is "apartheid" about protecting israeli citizens?; it was also only built after palestinian men started blowing themselves up in crowded areas of israel. In the few places where the fence denies palestinians access to their livelihood (e.g Bil'in), it is being moved.
06:40 PM on 01/20/2011
q> uestion: The settlement­s may be illegal.

Illegal.
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StCuthbert
Anytime the mods are ready...
06:46 PM on 01/20/2011
But are they morally wrong? There are lots of illegal things in the world, but we can't stop them all.
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BcemXAHA
Yerushalaim shel zahav
07:13 PM on 01/20/2011
This just must be the reason why the Palestinians have approached the UN with a request to declare the settlements illegal :).